Trade Metcalf

[Vegaseahawk]

We may not be able to get the best HC candidate out there if we insist on retaining the GM.

Disagree. There are many young, talented people out there that would thrive under a new system with Schneider as the GM. Some of the older, more experienced coaches would insist on power, sure, but look at guys like Sean McVay, & Mike Vrabel. I'm guessing they don't have total control ala Pete Carroll.

[Hawktawk]

JS is signed past PC, till 27 I believe . He’s a so so GM. He’s made a killing off a few early drafts especially 10 through 12 and a couple critical FAs in beast , Bennett and Avril to get over the hump. Harvin will always be an enigma , a waste except on the biggest stage . Graham ? Russ getting hit and you trade a center for a TE, WR that doesn’t block. Then all these other guys who were reaches wasting high draft picks . He’s as much of the problem as anything . No matter . If Pete quits or gets fired my guess is if they don’t eat JS contract he will be involved in picking Pete’s successor so
Hopefully he’s better picking coaches than running backs or D linemen . .

[NorthHawk]

JS is signed past PC, till 27 I believe . He’s a so so GM. He’s made a killing off a few early drafts especially 10 through 12 and a couple critical FAs in beast , Bennett and Avril to get over the hump. Harvin will always be an enigma , a waste except on the biggest stage . Graham ? Russ getting hit and you trade a center for a TE, WR that doesn’t block. Then all these other guys who were reaches wasting high draft picks . He’s as much of the problem as anything . No matter . If Pete quits or gets fired my guess is if they don’t eat JS contract he will be involved in picking Pete’s successor so
Hopefully he’s better picking coaches than running backs or D linemen . .

It's hard to say whether JS is a good GM. Pete has final say over player selection/draft choices/personnel so JS might just be doing Pete's bidding at this point.
But it's hard to select players when we don't have a firm identity on either side of the ball.
What is our identity now? It used to be a tough grind you into the dirt team but now it seems to pretend to want to do that without the personnel. Or is it that
we want to be a finesse team but don't have the talent? Whatever it is, we've lost our way.

[obiken]

I'll leave replacing JS up to the next head coach, but a new broom sweeps clean. We may not be able to get the best HC candidate out there if we insist on retaining the GM.

Okay, I see your point but I thought it was up to the GM to hire and fire the coach, not the other way around.

[NorthHawk]

That's the way it normally goes - the new GM would select the HC, but Pete would have to resign from both coaching and being the VP position which
means he's JS's boss. Whether he would keep JS as GM or whether he would completely remove himself from the team we would have to see. For our best
interests if he decides to retire, Pete should resign from all of his responsibilities with the Seahawks.

[RiverDog]

I'll leave replacing JS up to the next head coach, but a new broom sweeps clean. We may not be able to get the best HC candidate out there if we insist on retaining the GM.

Okay, I see your point but I thought it was up to the GM to hire and fire the coach, not the other way around.

Pete Carroll in complete control of Seahawks’ transformation

"Really it (his complete control over the Seahawks) came of the years at SC, where we had an athletic director and the football head. I had the opportunity there to make every decision from recruiting, academics, to everything. Responsible for all of that. I felt like that would really an opportunity for me to be at my best.

General manager John Schneider was hired in 2010, eight days after Carroll, whose official title is executive vice president in charge of football operations.

The understanding that Carroll is the decision-maker may be the reason the players pay so much attention, as they did at a team meeting after a Kansas City loss that changed their season. Not wanting to be the next Percy Harvin, the wide receiver who was released in midseason, can be a great motivator.

https://www.foxsports.com/arizona/story ... 0for%20him.

Holmgren had the same authority as Pete does when he first took the Hawks job, but he got stripped of his GM responsibilities in 2005, which ironically, was the season we went to the Super Bowl.

[Hawktawk]

If Pete is really the guy who picked LJ Collier , Penney , Christine Micheal etc etc etc , traded all these picks for guys that haven’t panned out it’s time he gets the Holmgren treatment . He’d never do it IMO and Holmgren considered resigning . I’ve never seen JS as a figurehead and my guess is there’s not a lot of distance between either man when they evaluate talent . I’ve never seen Carroll with less answers after a game from Russ finger to why we can’t stop teams and especially not score . He’s not the type of coach who throws tantrums or calls people out much but right now it’s needed . Greg Olsen who was a Hawk and now a commentator said it was a pretty loosey goosie locker room and environment , not a lot of accountability . He didn’t mention names but clearly your 30 million guy has put up one TD in 2 games . Probably ought to have more observations than palms up and “ I don’t know”. My guess is minus a miraculous turnaround the man is gonna be gone .

[RiverDog]

If Pete is really the guy who picked LJ Collier , Penney , Christine Micheal etc etc etc , traded all these picks for guys that haven’t panned out it’s time he gets the Holmgren treatment . He’d never do it IMO and Holmgren considered resigning . I’ve never seen JS as a figurehead and my guess is there’s not a lot of distance between either man when they evaluate talent . I’ve never seen Carroll with less answers after a game from Russ finger to why we can’t stop teams and especially not score . He’s not the type of coach who throws tantrums or calls people out much but right now it’s needed . Greg Olsen who was a Hawk and now a commentator said it was a pretty loosey goosie locker room and environment , not a lot of accountability . He didn’t mention names but clearly your 30 million guy has put up one TD in 2 games . Probably ought to have more observations than palms up and “ I don’t know”. My guess is minus a miraculous turnaround the man is gonna be gone .

Pete didn't necessarily hand pick those draft choices. As you know, all NFL teams have an extensive network of scouts that they rely on to make recommendations to them. But the Adams trade obviously was his baby. There's no way any GM, even Jerry Jones, is going to make that kind of a deal without the consent of the head coach. That's why I made the statement when we pulled the trigger on that trade, that it had damn well better work out as if it didn't, I was holding Pete accountable.

I've had it with Pete. He was a great coach, the best in franchise history and arguably a borderline HOF candidate...If Flores got inducted, surely Pete would qualify...and I'll be eternally grateful for what he's done for our franchise. It's been a great run, but it's time for a change.

[RiverDog]

Rumors of an impending trade of DK Metcalf are circulating:

The Seattle Seahawks have already made several significant changes to their roster this offseason, and they might not be done. According to a report from ESPN, the Seahawks may be willing to trade wide receiver DK Metcalf -- at least, according to other teams.

"This is a name that's buzzing in league circles. No guarantee that anything happens here," ESPN's Jeremy Fowler said Sunday, reacting to a Bleacher Report transcription. "I'm told that Metcalf has gotten indications, informally from the team, that he's not going to be traded. Seattle has said publicly they have no intention to trade him.

"But the execs I talk to keep bringing him up that maybe they would either be willing to move on at the right price or that Metcalf would welcome a change. So, something is going on here; it's just hard to figure out what. But he's got one year left on his rookie deal. He would need a new contract as part of a trade. That's the tricky part."

Wide receiver-needy teams with quarterbacks already in place such as the Chiefs and Packers would figure to be very interested in his services, even if they have to lavish him with an extension. So long as the payday is not in the area of those received by the recently-traded Tyreek Hill and Davante Adams, it's easy to see those teams being willing to bring Metcalf into the fold. Given the chance to play with Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers (as opposed to Drew Lock), Metcalf would presumably be interested as well. Of course, his actual availability depends on the Seahawks being willing to accept a deal, and that would likely mean John Schneider and Pete Carroll committing to a full-on rebuild, rather than attempting to compete with their current roster.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/seah ... SZ9z_WNjcU

Carroll and JS have said repeatedly that they're not interested in trading Metcalf. If anyone in here still believes what Pete and John say, I have some beachfront real estate in Utah that I'd love to sell you.

[govandals]

"want to", "intend"... blah, blah, blah... its all the same coachspeak from Pete. I mean, what exactly do we expect him to say? Over the years we've learned Pete tries to be as "politically correct" as possible, not ruffle feathers, not create media storms.

Does Pete intend to trade DK? No. Does Pete want to trade DK? No. Pete was looking for a DK type for years. If Pete is overwhelmed by an offer would he trade DK? Of course. Remember, Pete is "in on everything" Pete leaves "no stone unturned" Every player on every roster is available if the price is right.

Pete will be bashed by the media and fans no matter what happens. Give a WR $100 million when you don't have the proper QB to get him the ball? Well that's dumb. Trade away a known quantity and a young budding superstar for some lottery tickets? Well that's' dumb, too. Pick your poison.

One thing to consider:
Next year we currently 2 1st round picks. We can move up in the draft and get a QB, right?
Miami with Tua, Houston with Davis Mills, Detroit with Goff and Philly with Hurts all have 2 1st rounders as well. They all could be in the QB market next year. Maybe trading DK for a package that includes a 2023 first rounder isn't a bad idea.

[NorthHawk]

I think the Eagles now have 3 first round picks next year - maybe I'm wrong, though but the comments from the owner about regret not drafting Wilson might mean
they will go early and hard on a QB if they really think he's of franchise caliber. We might not be able to compete with the draft ammo Philly has next year if it is
a competition. I would think we will draft a QB this year in the mid rounds probably. Someone who has played in a big program and has been competent or shown
signs of being capable of leading at the NFL level.

[govandals]

Philly had 3 first rounders this year. After the Saints trade yesterday, Philly has 2 in 2022 and 2 in 2023.

[tarlhawk]

We are the fans of an iconic NFL team no matter how you spin it...we are adored and hated outside of our team...but such is the life of a heavily competitive sport. We are not the type of team to "tank"...bringing in a new head coach might have provided an atmosphere to "allow tanking" but that didn't happen so we are "stuck" with a coach excited about winning.

His enthusiasm and "college" atmosphere ...combine to get the most out of players arriving in camp. Many players had their best football experiences playing in college vice the exposure to the "business" like scrutiny the NFL provides ( hence the "efforts" to take away taunting or even exuberant celebrations of victory *TD/turnover plays/emotional swing plays*). What is his secret? Leadership is all about providing an atmosphere of success...instilling confidence in players while demanding individual accountability to the team as a whole...emotional traits akin to being in a tight knit "family". When we lose a game its usually because our opponent outplayed us not because of lack of effort from our team.

Our team has benefitted from the stability of our upper management and Front Office. The NFL understands the emotional support fans get when their "underdog" team overcomes a team of higher talent and expectations...so parity has been "enforced" to try to prevent the extremes of having a team who every fan wants to see on their schedule of opponents and the opposite...seeing a team dreaded as a dynasty coming to your town. Its all about creating heroes and villains especially in a sport "tuned" to TV ratings.

DK Metcalf is important to our team and is very important to keep going forward as a difference maker at any moment in any game...the definition of an NFL play-maker. Your QB normally champions the attention of keeping your team in the game...but can't do it alone without supporting play-makers. Having Lockett and DK as primary weapons balanced by the running of Penny puts tremendous pressure on an opponents defense to minimize EXPLOSIVE plays. Lets acknowledge our team is worth sustaining excitement about...GO HAWKS!

[RiverDog]

A great wide receiver is a difference maker only for a team that already has a good foundation in place. The Lions never won squat even though they had a player who was arguably the best WR in his era, ie Megatron. Tyreek Hill was a difference maker for the Chiefs only because he had a great QB to get him the ball and plenty of supporting characters, like Travis Kelce. Had Hill played for Jacksonville, you wouldn't have ever heard about him.

As far as Pete's approach goes, I didn't mean to suggest that he's a dishonest person in general. He's no different than any other NFL head coach, especially this time of year between the end of the season and the draft. If he pretends that he's not interested in trading Metcalf, then that's going to cause other GM's to sweeten the pot in an attempt to find his selling price. My only point is that we should not be making the assumption that we're not interested in a trade simply because Pete said so. An NFL head coach lying is as common as a soccer player flopping.

I've heard that both the Chiefs and Packers, two contending teams with franchise QB's that lost a great WR might be in the market for Metcalf, and that DK might be more willing to play for a team with a Rodgers or Mahomes as their QB rather than one with Drew Lock.

[NorthHawk]

The Jets as well. They have 2 first round picks this year and they need a legitimate target for Zach Wilson.
If they did do a trade with the Jets, I would want as part of the compensation swap our 9th pick for their 4th plus more picks of course.
That would put us in a great position to take the player they think can make an immediate impact or even trade back to get even more
picks this and/or next year.

[RiverDog]

The Jets as well. They have 2 first round picks this year and they need a legitimate target for Zach Wilson.
If they did do a trade with the Jets, I would want as part of the compensation swap our 9th pick for their 4th plus more picks of course.
That would put us in a great position to take the player they think can make an immediate impact or even trade back to get even more
picks this and/or next year.

Trading up in the draft isn't JS's style, so don't hold your breath on your former suggestion. Besides, until the draft actually starts happening, moving up 5 slots might not make any difference. The player they have their eyeballs on might be there at #9.

The Jets would be an attractive partner as they're an abysmal franchise in what could be a very tough division as the Dolphins won 8 of their last 9 and barely missed the playoffs, and of course, the Bills and Pats are going to be tough. The Jets first round pick in 2023 could easily end up being a top 5 pick whereas the Chiefs or Packers first rounder is likely going to be in the high 20's.

[NorthHawk]

If they traded for Metcalf the Jets would have to give up a 1st round pick.
Part of my suggestion was to swap 4 for 9. That would still give them a top 10 pick but we would have to get more picks in return - maybe their 2nd round pick
or next years 2nd round plus other selections and we would get back #10 which we gave up for Adams.

So something like Metcalf for swapping #4 and #9, #10 plus another pick.
That's if Metcalf is traded.
They get a first round talent to help Zach Wilson and add some excitement to the fan base. We get a 1st round pick at #10, plus move up from 9 to 4 and an extra pick
in either this or next years draft.

[RiverDog]

If they traded for Metcalf the Jets would have to give up a 1st round pick.
Part of my suggestion was to swap 4 for 9. That would still give them a top 10 pick but we would have to get more picks in return - maybe their 2nd round pick
or next years 2nd round plus other selections and we would get back #10 which we gave up for Adams.

So something like Metcalf for swapping #4 and #9, #10 plus another pick.
That's if Metcalf is traded.
They get a first round talent to help Zach Wilson and add some excitement to the fan base. We get a 1st round pick at #10, plus move up from 9 to 4 and an extra pick
in either this or next years draft.

I understand your proposal, and yes, the Jets are a very attractive partner and might be in the market for a receiver like Metcalf. But the big question is what would Metcalf himself think of it. Would he be willing to sign a contract extension with the Jets and catch passes from Zach Wilson, or would he rather go play for the Chiefs or Packers and be on the receiving end of Mahomes or Rodgers? If you're the Jets, you're not going to give up that kind of capital unless you had a pretty darn firm commitment from Metcalf about the terms of a new contract.

[Hawktawk]

I haven’t heard DK clamoring about wanting out . At some point you have to build around someone . He’s a generational talent who played all year with a foot injury and was still uncoverable . He also took the initiative to seek counseling for his anger management issues . It’s funny how all the people who say Pete and john can’t draft want them to trade one of their home runs for draft picks

[RiverDog]

I haven’t heard DK clamoring about wanting out . At some point you have to build around someone . He’s a generational talent who played all year with a foot injury and was still uncoverable . He also took the initiative to seek counseling for his anger management issues . It’s funny how all the people who say Pete and john can’t draft want them to trade one of their home runs for draft picks

Not a lot of players clamor about wanting out, that is until some team dangles $25M in front of them. If we're not ready to pay him that much per season, which I think is highly unlikely, then the best time to trade him is now. You don't want to let an asset like that walk when you can get a kings ransom for him by trading him.

You don't build teams around a wide receiver.

[Aseahawkfan]

Not a lot of players clamor about wanting out, that is until some team dangles $25M in front of them. If we're not ready to pay him that much per season, which I think is highly unlikely, then the best time to trade him is now. You don't want to let an asset like that walk when you can get a kings ransom for him by trading him.

You don't build teams around a wide receiver.

I'm not even sure how you would build a team around a WR. For all the grandstanding receivers do, they're a very small part of the offense. Even the best account for maybe 40% of the passing yards. That's all dependent on the quality of your QB. If you have an average to below average QB, you probably won't even have that many passing yards for them to gain. Receivers have to be one of the easiest elements to take away from an offense.

[RiverDog]

I'm not even sure how you would build a team around a WR. For all the grandstanding receivers do, they're a very small part of the offense. Even the best account for maybe 40% of the passing yards. That's all dependent on the quality of your QB. If you have an average to below average QB, you probably won't even have that many passing yards for them to gain. Receivers have to be one of the easiest elements to take away from an offense.

My point exactly! Especially with a WR like Metcalf, who is a deep threat more than he is a possession receiver as Lockett is. Better have a good offensive line in place to give your QB time to get the ball to your deep threat.

You get a stud WR to top off a good team, get them over the hump. I suspect that this is why the Dolphins traded for Tyreek Hill, that after having won 8 of their last 9, including a 9 point win vs. the Patriots in their last game of the season, that they feel they're close to competing for a SB and that Hill might be the player that can get them over the hump. It's the same reason why we traded for Percy Harvin.

[tarlhawk]

DK would not be wasted remaining on our team...even our back-up QB Geno benefitted from having DK in the lineup. Finding a replacement for RW will be hard enough...Drew Lock has been almost ridiculed as a potential QB yet his scouting reports leading up to the 2019 draft are similar to the better 2022 QB prospects. Our offensive line is often maligned but looked pretty good allowing Penny to "bust out" while giving RW time to get a rhythm going.

These next two drafts offer our GM an opportunity to infuse our team once more with affordable youth instead of pricey free agents. Good coaching in the trenches on both sides (OFF/DEF) can magnify whatever draft gains we get on our d-line/o-line.

Noah Fant will thrive better with DK and Tyler as the wideouts...its been reported that Noah Fants better games were with Lock tossing the pigskin. DK isnt just a "go-route" receiver...get him the ball on mid-routes with separation and his jet takeoff ability can have the same effect as a deeper pass. Confidence can do wonders for a QB with a "live arm"...and getting the ball into DK and Locketts capable hands can boost any QB's confidence.

We got enough "draft ammo" so I'm hoping DK is with us for the long haul...he has already quipped in on Locks behalf in social media.

[NorthHawk]

I don’t want to lose him, but what’s best for the team?
With a lesser QB we will have to run more and although Lock has a strong arm, his accuracy has been
questioned and maybe his decisions. Pete emphasizes protecting the ball so any question about decisions
or accuracy means even more running the ball.

That means fewer targets for DK and the money spent paying him QB money would be wasted. So I
can see trading him for draft picks to improve the run game or build a solid Defense.

Pete believes that Defense is key to winning so I expect the Defense to be prominent this and
next year’s draft. As said above, teams aren’t built around a WR so maybe getting a 1st round
pick and more would be the best long term strategy.

In NY he would become a fan favorite and his off field endorsements would be huge. Wilson has a big arm so
he could really blossom in a more progressive Offense.

It would probably be the best thing for him professionally and monetarily.

[Hawktawk]

Being reported Seattle has turned down the #10 overall pick etc from the Jets for DK. Quoted as saying “ we are not trading him “ . I hope it’s true . You can build an offense around a generational player like that . One more time . There’s people who will give #1 and players etc and then pay him 25 or 30 million . We already got him for a second rounder so we give up nothing to acquire someone everyone else wants to have and pay . He made a loser like Geno look like a starter . The pace they were on was a 20 TD 1500 yard plus season to DK alone . He’s a game changer that helps any qb.

[RiverDog]

We're still over 3 weeks away from the draft, so I wouldn't read anything into our stated intent to trade or not to trade Metcalf. As we've discussed, everybody lies. The fact is that there's not a lot of players like Metcalf out there for teams to sign or trade for between now and the draft so we aren't going to miss out on a great deal because we waited a couple weeks to pull the trigger.

[NorthHawk]

I don’t recall any team building around a WR let alone a run first team.

This is just the start of negotiations for him, but for sure the 10th isn’t enough.
Expect a trade, but if we don’t it will be another real bad personnel move by
this regime.

[RiverDog]

I don’t recall any team building around a WR let alone a run first team.

The Detroit Lions built around Calvin Johnson. Don't you want to be like them?

[Aseahawkfan]

The Detroit Lions built around Calvin Johnson. Don't you want to be like them?

Not how I would see it. But they did eventually have a number one pick they spent on QB which greatly improved Calvin Johnson's production. He wasn't producing near as well before drafting Stafford.

I wouldn't mind keeping DK. You're not going to build a team around him like you would a QB. There is literally no position other than QB you build a team around. If you have a good QB, he'll make your offense work better across the board. No other position can really do this.

My problem is the timing. DK is in what is going to be the last year of his contract. He's going to cost 25 million a year at least. Do you want to wrap up over 40 million a year in two WRs when the reality is a QB makes the WR better and you don't have a QB to hang your hat on.

If I had my choice, would I spend 25 million DK or use that money to improve the defense? I'd go defense every time. A better defense will do more to help you win than a WR in my opinion.

[c_hawkbob]

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Another mega deal: Bills reached agreement with WR Stefon Diggs on a 4-year, $104 million extension that includes $70 million guaranteed, sources tell ESPN. Deal ties Diggs to Buffalo for six more years, at $124.1M, with the intent from both sides to have him retire in Buffalo.

I wish we had the kind of respect for our stars that Buffalo does for theirs.

[Hawktawk]

I don’t recall any team building around a WR let alone a run first team.

The Detroit Lions built around Calvin Johnson. Don't you want to be like them?

Yeah and no line and no defense and 50 head coaches and Matt Stafford . And Calvin Johnson is great but he wasn’t who DK can be and is . Biggest and baddest receiver ever . Did you say DK is only a deep threat ? He runs every route . I remember a shallow cross where he simply beat everyone to the spot all the way across and turned it up and housed it. Nobody has had that combination of size strength and speed . Hawking down Budda Baker after an idiotic pick . He appeared to be bought in, not checked out . His anger on the field was at not being targeted and he loved Geno , said so publicly .
I think a 1500 yard 20 TD receiver that can house it every play can help my team . Yeah call me stupid put him in front and Penney behind and any QB can have a great year .

[RiverDog]

I don’t recall any team building around a WR let alone a run first team.

The Detroit Lions built around Calvin Johnson. Don't you want to be like them?

Yeah and no line and no defense and 50 head coaches and Matt Stafford . And Calvin Johnson is great but he wasn’t who DK can be and is . Biggest and baddest receiver ever . Did you say DK is only a deep threat ? He runs every route . I remember a shallow cross where he simply beat everyone to the spot all the way across and turned it up and housed it. Nobody has had that combination of size strength and speed . Hawking down Budda Baker after an idiotic pick . He appeared to be bought in, not checked out . His anger on the field was at not being targeted and he loved Geno , said so publicly .
I think a 1500 yard 20 TD receiver that can house it every play can help my team . Yeah call me stupid put him in front and Penney behind and any QB can have a great year .

Move over Geno and take a break, Penny. Hawktalk has a new Flavor-of-the Day, and it's DK Metcalf.

Calvin Johnson was great but he's not the receiver Metcalf is or can be? Plueeze! Megatron was arguably the best receiver of this current century, and Metcalf will be lucky to produce at 75% of the rate that Johnson did.

I didn't say that Metcalf is 'only' a deep threat. It's his long suit. He's not in the same class of route runner as Lockett is, at least not yet, nor is his production anywhere close to being top 10. Despite the fact that Metcalf played every game last season, he ranked just 28th in receiving yards and receptions (Lockett ranked 9th). He's not a possession receiver. His receptions/targets is 58% while Lockett's is 68%. The gold standard, Cooper Kupp, had a 76% receptions to targets percentage. Like you once said, stats don't lie. Metcalf is not yet a complete receiver, so please, quit fitting him for his gold jacket. Although Metcalf has one heck of a lot of potential, he still has A LOT of work to before he can be legitimately compared to Megatron.

[NorthHawk]

Pete's Offense doesn't permit all Offensive players to get the most out of them. In other words it restricts in some ways the talents that make them special.
Add in a lesser QB, and his production may very well go down. Then we have the OL follies which if not fixed will mean a less mobile QB not having
the time to throw deep balls - which are DK's advantage.

[obiken]

I told you he’s part of the cult of Pete he’s a cop! If Metcalf was so great and he could be had a decent price, why hasn’t anyone bid on him yet. Moreover, if Metcalf goes the whole theory that we’re not in a total rebuild goes right out the window, which is anyway but they’re just certain people that refused to see it.

[RiverDog]

I told you he’s part of the cult of Pete he’s a cop! If Metcalf was so great and he could be had a decent price, why hasn’t anyone bid on him yet. Moreover, if Metcalf goes the whole theory that we’re not in a total rebuild goes right out the window, which is anyway but they’re just certain people that refused to see it.

There's no telling who or how much anyone is bidding for Metcalf. But it's undeniable that teams have expressed interest in him.

I think you're right about the rebuilding thing. Pete keeps insisting that he's not rebuilding, but if he trades Wilson and Metcalf and releases Bobby, it's going to be pretty difficult for him to maintain that narrative.

Here's an article that talks about three possible destinations for Metcalf:

The rumor mill is churning out a lot of noise around DK Metcalf's availability. The Seahawks are not going through a complete rebuild (at least that's what they're saying outwardly) so Metcalf isn't on the trade block per se. But Metcalf is in the final year of his contract and will be looking for big money next offseason, which Seattle may not be interested in handing over if the immediate future is not bright.

The Seahawks have been saying they intend to keep Metcalf. They said that a lot about Wilson until he got traded anyway. If Seattle really wants to try and nail a quick turnaround after trading their franchise quarterback, it makes complete sense to sell high on Metcalf now and replace his production with a few of the many talented wideouts in this year's draft.

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/three- ... %20More%20

[tarlhawk]

Its been reported our team turned down the NYJ offer of the number 10 first round pick. The Jets didn't even offer T. Hill a 1rst rd pick but two high 2nd rd picks. If DK was available for the right price then a top ten 1rst rd pick would normally be a solid "triggering" offer. Keeping DK should also quiet the Mayfield speculation since we can't afford both salaries without undoing the advantage gained in the RW trade and Wagner release.

DK is KEY in keeping Penny as an explosive threat. Even when not targeted DK commands respect and keeps most teams from "stacking" the box by drawing double coverage which then makes Lockett/Noah Fant or Rashaad Penny able to hit paydirt. DK can turn a short pass into a homerun with his blend of size and speed...in my opinion just his presence on the field elevates the opportunities of Tyler/Noah/Eskridge/Penny to get single coverage mismatches.

[NorthHawk]

A WR isn't KEY to a RB's running totals. If it were the case, the Defense would stack the side of that WR and block the run.
Can it help? Sure, but any successful pass game can help, even one that's a dink and dunk strategy. What WR's like DK do
is open up underneath routes for slot receivers and TE's mostly but it's the speed that's important most of all.

[RiverDog]

Its been reported our team turned down the NYJ offer of the number 10 first round pick. The Jets didn't even offer T. Hill a 1rst rd pick but two high 2nd rd picks. If DK was available for the right price then a top ten 1rst rd pick would normally be a solid "triggering" offer. Keeping DK should also quiet the Mayfield speculation since we can't afford both salaries without undoing the advantage gained in the RW trade and Wagner release.

We're still 3 weeks out from the draft, and there's no other wide receiver of Metcalf's stature available, so I wouldn't read anything into our reluctance to jump at the first offer we get. If the Jets were serious, that trade will still be there a couple of weeks from now.

DK is KEY in keeping Penny as an explosive threat. Even when not targeted DK commands respect and keeps most teams from "stacking" the box by drawing double coverage which then makes Lockett/Noah Fant or Rashaad Penny able to hit paydirt. DK can turn a short pass into a homerun with his blend of size and speed...in my opinion just his presence on the field elevates the opportunities of Tyler/Noah/Eskridge/Penny to get single coverage mismatches.

What's key in keeping Penny an explosive threat is keeping him healthy. We also have to give who ever our slinger is time for Metcalf to get into his route and get the ball to him, something we haven't been very successful in doing.

[tarlhawk]

A WR isn't KEY to a RB's running totals. If it were the case, the Defense would stack the side of that WR and block the run.
Can it help? Sure, but any successful pass game can help, even one that's a dink and dunk strategy. What WR's like DK do
is open up underneath routes for slot receivers and TE's mostly but it's the speed that's important most of all.

I'm referring to DK's ability to draw double coverage away from the side of a called running play...the O-Line is KEY to getting Penny into the open where hopefully DK has already pulled away two would-be secondary tacklers. DK permits Waldron to exploit his offense playcalling by expanding the types of plays DK can be involved in...DK's physical mismatch/speed blend can turn a QB's "dink passes" into homeruns...just saying.

[NorthHawk]

If Pete's hands are on this Offense (and since he was hands on with a great QB, there's no reason to think he would be hands off with an inexperienced or lesser QB)
Waldron won't be able to use the playbook he came with or wants to use. It doesn't mesh with Pete's philosophy or style he wants to play. We just simply aren't going
to use DK like he can be used and all he will get to do is run deep routes all game. It's been a waste of his talents so far and there's no reason to think it will change.

Drawing double coverage doesn't really help the run game much as the LBs and DL take care of that. We don't dink and dunk with our WR's so it's very unlikely we
will start.