Mayfield

[trents]

With the exorbitant price they paid for Watson, even if he is able to survive the sex abuse scandal, they have mortgaged their future. As Joe Biden said, recently, they have become a "one horse pony".

[Oly]

No question they will want to keep as many picks as they can. They also will want to get a high pick from trading Mayfield, but the reality is they have completely backed themselves into a corner on this one. They agreed to the stupidest contract in NFL history while giving up 3 1st, a 3rd, and a 4th round pick. Not only did they guarantee $80 million more than any other player in NFL history but they also put themselves in salary cap hell after this year just to make sure Deshaun loses as little money as possible due to suspensions this year. They have three players who will account for over 1/2 their total cap next season. They have completely burned every bridge with Mayfield- everybody knows they can't keep him around. They can't pay him $19 mil this year and everybody knows it. The other reality is that Mayfield on a one year rental isn't worth that much anyway. No leverage plus Mayfield's cap situation means that the reality is they are probably going to have to give up something to get rid of Mayfield. My guess is that they either have to part with their 3rd MINIMUM or create some sort of deal where they are paying part (probably around half) of Mayfield's contract. If they pay money they might get a late round pick for him.

Very well said. If the Hawks can get a pick out of this, I'd welcome Mayfield...as the add-on to the pick, which is the real motivation. The Hawks have the cap space to make it work, too.

[NorthHawk]

I’m not sure we do have the Cap space.

Spotrac has us with 16M and his contract is 18M.
As well we still have to address the OT situation and sign draft picks.

[Oly]

I’m not sure we do have the Cap space.

Spotrac has us with 16M and his contract is 18M.
As well we still have to address the OT situation and sign draft picks.

That's less than I thought. Still enough for a couple of cuts/restructures to make it happen, but maybe not as easy as I thought.

[NorthHawk]

I’m sure it could be done, but it complicates things and in a rebuilding year it might not
be the best strategy.

[Hawktawk]

Barring injuries, I just think Mayfield is done as a starting QB in the NFL. Never the less, the NFL is ALL about injuries.

That’s a bold prediction . I tend to believe he’s gonna start somewhere . Nobody’s eating 18 million to bring him in as a backup. Unless Cleveland wants to eat some of the contract to get rid of him . Could he be cut ? As you say guys get hurt all the time . And you look at a retread like Trubiski replacing Ben or how Fitzpatrick has started for half a dozen teams . He will be somewhere .. I’m ambivalent about him . Perfectly fine to start Locke and have Locke back up or vice versa . Pc at least says he agrees .

[Hawktawk]

I’m sure it could be done, but it complicates things and in a rebuilding year it might not
be the best strategy.

I don’t see a rebuild . I see a reset . I’m optimistic .

[NorthHawk]

I’m not sure there’s much difference as we have a lot of changes expected the next couple of years.

[Aseahawkfan]

I don’t see a rebuild . I see a reset . I’m optimistic .

I don't care what you see or think it is or what even Pete and John think or say it is, it is a rebuild. We have jettisoned nearly all our old, experienced talent and are rebuilding with younger players. So don't expect to be competitive for a while.

[Aseahawkfan]

I have no interest in Mayfield. He's a known quantity who cannot perform at an elite level. I'd rather let the unknown quantities compete and get some draft guys.

Pete's selling Drew Locke like he's an real option and I know Pete's full of crap hype when I hear it. Pete's full of t. Drew Locke is no one. He's not the answer. Just one of the placeholders we'll be watching like we did when Pete and John first got here. Mayfield would be the same. I don't want to pay a single draft pick for a QB from other team. If some free agent QB wants to sign and compete, fine. Otherwise, let the Always Compete philosophy do its job while we stack draft picks to bring in guys to compete and see who wins.

[NorthHawk]

I keep hearing what he said about Tarvaris Jackson in my head.
I think he was saying the same things.

[Aseahawkfan]

I keep hearing what he said about Tarvaris Jackson in my head.
I think he was saying the same things.

Yeah. I remember that crap. I can't remember if anyone actually believed T-jack was a real option.

[obiken]

Pete is done, he has ZERO credibility left! Him and John scouting Josh Allen, is like the fat guy going to the strip club when he has a gorgeous modelesque wife sitting at home who loves him.

[Hawktawk]

Pete is done, he has ZERO credibility left! Him and John scouting Josh Allen, is like the fat guy going to the strip club when he has a gorgeous modelesque wife sitting at home who loves him.

Whhaaaa? Scouting Allen ? same as Meyer visiting a nightclub . Josh Allen is currently more Dangerruss than Russ has been in a long time . That’s due diligence looking at a guy like that . If that butthurt the little 35 million man F him.


Ever since Russ Cooked up an interception to ruin a great personal performance and destroy a dynasty we have 2 wild card wins we won and 1 Blair witch gifted us . In 8 years . There’s been lots of highlight reels but not when it matters . We should have moved on a year ago after 11-29 with a pick 6 then waaa getting hit too much . I said it at the time and I had no idea how bad things really were . I don’t care how gifted someone is there was a cancer .

[c_hawkbob]

If that butthurt the little 35 million man F him.

It's impossible for me to take you seriously when you spout pure hateraid like that.

[obiken]

It's impossible for me to take you seriously when you spout pure hateraid like that.

Yeah the pick was NOT his fault Bob, the ball was right in his hands and MB just jumped the route, Billichik practiced it because Pete went to it too many times on the goal line . While our Defense was going from #1 to #30 Russ's numbers were actually going up. No doubt I could be too much a Russ lover, but he is a Russ hater. Saying we will get 10 wins, that is just a joke to me. Yeah I hope he is right, but come on. Last years stats are meaningless they let Russ come back way too early, and his throws were way off, but to say the Broncos are not better off with Russ over Locke, please spend some time on the stat line, or in a good bar!

[Aseahawkfan]

And you don't put your young players in a bad position to fail like Pete and Bevell did to our guys. You don't put guys in a position to fail like that.

Hawktawk also never likes to mention we wouldn't even be in a Super Bowl without Russell Wilson. He loves to overlook that.

[obiken]

And you don't put your young players in a bad position to fail like Pete and Bevell did to our guys. You don't put guys in a position to fail like that.

Hawktawk also never likes to mention we wouldn't even be in a Super Bowl without Russell Wilson. He loves to overlook that.

He’s not the only one on that score though, there’s a lot of people out there that think there anybody could’ve quarterback the Hawks in that year. It’s just total BS, too many third-down throws to Doug Baldwin, too many third-down runs, sorry he may have been a game manager back then but he made plays and we won games. Moreover, we got back to the Super Bowl because a Russ as well.

[RiverDog]

If that butthurt the little 35 million man F him.

It's impossible for me to take you seriously when you spout pure hateraid like that.

Honestly, Hawktalk, it's getting to that point with me, too. Your attitude towards Russell has changed to such a degree that it's affecting your objectivity. You go through these unabashed love affairs with some players, highlighting their relatively modest achievements and make excuses for their failings, while trivializing the accomplishments of a player like Russell that had the misfortune of landing on your personal $hit list.

For example, in one recent thread, you were critical of the strip sack Russell gave up in the 2014 NFCCG against the Niners and Aldon Smith, that it was part of your ridiculous claim that we got to the Super Bowl in spite of Russell, while several months ago, an almost identical strip sack that Geno gave up in overtime against the Steelers wasn't his fault, rather you credited the efforts of DPOY candidate TJ Watt's phenomenal play while constantly pumping Geno up for his performance against the 3-14 Jacksonville Jaguars.

[Hawktawk]

If that butthurt the little 35 million man F him.

It's impossible for me to take you seriously when you spout pure hateraid like that.

Honestly, Hawktalk, it's getting to that point with me, too. Your attitude towards Russell has changed to such a degree that it's affecting your objectivity. You go through these unabashed love affairs with some players, highlighting their relatively modest achievements and make excuses for their failings, while trivializing the accomplishments of a player like Russell that had the misfortune of landing on your personal $hit list.

For example, in one recent thread, you were critical of the strip sack Russell gave up in the 2014 NFCCG against the Niners and Aldon Smith, that it was part of your ridiculous claim that we got to the Super Bowl in spite of Russell, while several months ago, an almost identical strip sack that Geno gave up in overtime against the Steelers wasn't his fault, rather you credited the efforts of DPOY candidate TJ Watt's phenomenal play while constantly pumping Geno up for his performance against the 3-14 Jacksonville Jaguars.

It’s so screwed trying to make a point in cyberspace . I’m responding to those who think the ONLY reason we went to 2 superbowls and won one was Russ . He was definitely a big part of getting the 1 seed . He had a couple huge plays and a strip in a game Sherman almost certainly won . It’s possible Crabtree drops it . What that has to do about Geno and whether a strip sack made him suck . It cost us the game but he had a last minute drive to get to overtime which I haven’t seen much of.

In the 2014 title game Russ was dreadful and was saved by one of the greatest defenses of all time and 2 of the most incredible special teams plays of all time . And several critical errors by the Packers. At the end of regulation he was brilliant and even better in OT but to say he won it then tell me he wasn’t at fault in the very next game he lost ? It can be said he was worth 3 or 4 regular season wins when drafted seeing he inherited a 7-9 team without himself , wags , Bennet and Avril etc . After they fell apart and beast got hurt he was probably responsible for 5 or 6 of our wins per year . But for 10 seasons our offense has started slow . In 2017 his finest hour he got 9 wins out of the truly bad team accounting for all the TDs and leading the team in rushing . I think he led the league in TDs or something . Amazing . Right up till midseason of 2020 he was getting better and better then pfft. Terrible end 11-29 pick six then the comments and leaks of teams rather than contrition. I said trade him now this isn’t going to get better .
Well……………..we’d have gotten more a year ago . That JS didn’t do it proves who was wanting out and who was finally accommodating it.

It’s both true we were extremely lucky to have Russ and he was lucky to have the 12s instead of Jets fans . The LOB. Pete . Bevell . It’s both true he’s one of the greatest dual threat qbs to ever play and that his play had declined , the whole finger deal , loss of clutch gene . He had the ball in his hands to win 3 times this year . Titans I recall your reaction. Commanders he actually got a TD then a terrible pick on the 2 point . No first down vs Bears .
It’s true he was great here , beneficent to charity , classy high character and in the end he lied to the fans , the 12s . Studying Denver game film , agent swearing at JS , orange tinted clothing line being minted . The worst is the unnamed teammates who say he checked out . All the anonymous sources about him wanting out were right so this probably is too .
As for my remark about Josh Allen butt hurting Russ last I checked the Pack actually drafted a real bad QB in the first round and Rodgers still stayed loyal in the end . Might have been a bit hard on the wording but I don’t like it in any pro athlete . Russ lost a lot with me . You all want to fight for a guy that left and slung mud and lied go for it . Facts aren’t hate .

[RiverDog]

As for my remark about Josh Allen butt hurting Russ last I checked the Pack actually drafted a real bad QB in the first round and Rodgers still stayed loyal in the end . Might have been a bit hard on the wording but I don’t like it in any pro athlete . Russ lost a lot with me . You all want to fight for a guy that left and slung mud and lied go for it . Facts aren’t hate .

Facts aren't hate, but four letter words damn sure are. A little hard on the wording is an understatement. It was a disrespectful, inflammatory way to make your point.

This is just my take so don't interpret it as me lecturing you or anyone else. Russell didn't "lose a lot with me" because I didn't have the admiration and worship of him that others had in him in the first place. So when he told us that he wanted to play for Seattle for another 10 years or whatever it was he said, I didn't believe him for a second.

Lying and dishonesty are standard operating procedure in that environment, in the fish bowl. If Russell doesn't say that he's going to play that long and answers with a 'no comment' or tries to brush them off, someone is going to write an article saying he is unhappy and the rumor mill starts churning out gossip, so he really had no choice. Same thing with Pete. Everyone has been asking those two the same question for the past 9 months. It was impossible for either of them to answer it honestly.

That doesn't mean that I don't have my criticism of Russell. I think he's a charlatan, tells who ever is in his presence whatever it is they want to hear, is obsessed with his public image. Like you, I, too, have grown tired of him and wasn't all that disappointed to see him go. But I'll never say "F-him". That type of response I reserve for the true jerks and a-holes.

[trents]

So, getting back to the thread subject, what about Mayfield?

[RiverDog]

So, getting back to the thread subject, what about Mayfield?

So what about him? I haven't heard jack, except that the Seahawks, nor anyone else, have shown any interest.

[Hawktawk]

He may well be the odd man out .he will be somewhere but when he’s described as Wilson without the athleticism and creativity by one scout why would we want him starting here. I find him interesting , intriguing but far from my first choice . . Maybe PC and JS really do plan to go with who we have or they see the next Wilson or whoever in this draft . They did it once .

[Hawktawk]

As for my remark about Josh Allen butt hurting Russ last I checked the Pack actually drafted a real bad QB in the first round and Rodgers still stayed loyal in the end .

Facts aren't hate, but four letter words damn sure are. A little hard on the wording is an understatement. It was a disrespectful, inflammatory way to make your point.

This is just my take so don't interpret it as me lecturing you or anyone else. Russell didn't "lose a lot with me" because I didn't have the admiration and worship of him that others had in him in the first place. So when he told us that he wanted to play for Seattle for another 10 years or whatever it was he said, I didn't believe him for a second.

Lying and dishonesty are standard operating procedure in that environment, in the fish bowl. If Russell doesn't say that he's going to play that long and answers with a 'no comment' or tries to brush them off, someone is going to write an article saying he is unhappy and the rumor mill starts churning out gossip, so he really had no choice. Same thing with Pete. Everyone has been asking those two the same question for the past 9 months. It was impossible for either of them to answer it honestly.

That doesn't mean that I don't have my criticism of Russell. I think he's a charlatan, tells who ever is in his presence whatever it is they want to hear, is obsessed with his public image. Like you, I, too, have grown tired of him and wasn't all that disappointed to see him go. But I'll never say "F-him". That type of response I reserve for the true jerks and a-holes.

Well when I describe what you just described in who Russ has become now and I just read where Obi blames some scout trip for Russell’s “camp” being upset I guess F him is just a natural reaction to that cherry on top for him . I never thought he was a god or a perfect person , just less phony by far then he was . As for scouting Allen etc it was clearly due diligence . Too bad he didn’t fall to them .

[RiverDog]

The NFL owner's meeting will be held later this week, and there's speculation that there could be a deal reached during the meetings. The Seahawks are consistently mentioned as the top landing spot for Mayfield, but we haven't shown the slightest interest in him, although that could be just a smoke screen to drive down the price. But for sure, if we really wanted him, we would have made an offer by now.

The top 4 destinations that I've seen mentioned are Seahawks, Saints, Falcons, and Texans.

[RiverDog]

Well when I describe what you just described in who Russ has become now and I just read where Obi blames some scout trip for Russell’s “camp” being upset I guess F him is just a natural reaction to that cherry on top for him . I never thought he was a god or a perfect person , just less phony by far then he was . As for scouting Allen etc it was clearly due diligence . Too bad he didn’t fall to them .

Obi commented on a rumor. There was absolutely no indication, either inferred or otherwise, that there was any truth to it, that Russell took it as a personal insult. IMO your "F-him" comment was uncalled for.

Russell is a typical Pollyanna, or at least that's the image he likes to project. He sees the good in everyone to such a degree that it's a major personality flaw. It's the major reason why I grew weary of him as after listening to him talk over the course of years, he became nauseating to me. I'd hear him talk and just roll my eyes. If he displayed the type of behavior in the locker room that he shows in public, then I can see why some of the players didn't care for him.

I'm not glad to see him go, but I am looking forward to life after Russell. I just wish that Pete would have been shown the door, too.

[NorthHawk]

Wilson is a very good QB, most likely first ballot HoF.
However, Seattle's Offense under Carroll boxes the QB in to being a "Point Guard".
Any professional who is one of the best at his craft will want to do more and if it's not afforded to him will move on to another competing business where he can in fact
get the most of his talents. In this case it's going to a more progressive Offense where he has a more creative OC who can use those talents better.
I think he will be pretty successful and there is no reason to dislike the man for wanting to be better and do something more interesting.

[NorthHawk]

The NFL owner's meeting will be held later this week, and there's speculation that there could be a deal reached during the meetings. The Seahawks are consistently mentioned as the top landing spot for Mayfield, but we haven't shown the slightest interest in him, although that could be just a smoke screen to drive down the price. But for sure, if we really wanted him, we would have made an offer by now.

The top 4 destinations that I've seen mentioned are Seahawks, Saints, Falcons, and Texans.

The teams without a clear starting QB will always be mentioned in articles. It's like the authors say hey, these teams need a starting QB, so I'll associate them with wanting Mayfield.
Whether or not we are really interested? Who knows at this point and I think the Saints just re-signed Winston so if I read that correctly they would be out of the running.

[RiverDog]

The NFL owner's meeting will be held later this week, and there's speculation that there could be a deal reached during the meetings. The Seahawks are consistently mentioned as the top landing spot for Mayfield, but we haven't shown the slightest interest in him, although that could be just a smoke screen to drive down the price. But for sure, if we really wanted him, we would have made an offer by now.

The top 4 destinations that I've seen mentioned are Seahawks, Saints, Falcons, and Texans.

The teams without a clear starting QB will always be mentioned in articles. It's like the authors say hey, these teams need a starting QB, so I'll associate them with wanting Mayfield.

Whether or not we are really interested? Who knows at this point and I think the Saints just re-signed Winston so if I read that correctly they would be out of the running.

Yeah, I saw where Winston signed with the Saints.

The other thing that's complicating things for the Browns is that the Niners are also trying to move their starting QB. It's a buyer's market. If teams don't like the asking price or have reservations about the player, they simply wait until the price comes down. They know that Cleveland has to do something with him, so might as well wait until he's released.

[NorthHawk]

Jimmy G. had surgery on his throwing shoulder, so that complicates any trade for him at this time, so for now the field is down to Baker as
a starting QB for those teams who want to be at least somewhat settled at QB before the draft.

[RiverDog]

Jimmy G. had surgery on his throwing shoulder, so that complicates any trade for him at this time, so for now the field is down to Baker as a starting QB for those teams who want to be at least somewhat settled at QB before the draft.

Yeah, and Garoppolo has a huge contract, $25M, more than what the Browns are on the hook with Mayfield. Both those guys could end up getting cut.

[Hawktawk]

I read that the Browns are in constant contact with Mayfields agent trying to work out something . He could be cut . I’ve heard a few rumors linking Garropolo to Seattle but again for that money ? Your paying him almost as much as Russ who is a far more dynamic QB. However Garrapalo has been to a Super Bowl and possibly a dropped int from 2 in the last 3 years while Russ hasn’t been past a WC in 8. Returning to Mayfield who is the first qb in Cleveland to win anything but had a dreadful down year after a nice year. . So you say well we’re getting a guy Wilson’s stature , not as athletic or accurate . Far more turnovers for 19 million. I don’t know what Lockes # is but my guess is far less for a cleaner sheet of paper and he’s a mobile 6’4” moose with a” hose “ arm . I was watching the first regular season game he played and thought at the time he looked pretty dynamic .
Geno can be had for probably 2 million and proved last year he’s far better than he was early in his career . He moved the chains , conducted a 98 yard drive vs the world champs cold , had an excellent final game . he’s 6’3.5, fairly mobile with a big accurate arm . Younger than Russ with 20% as much mileage . I could make a reasonable case for rolling with some combination of those guys , battle it out .
In other news the Thome family has cut ties with the browns over bringing in Watson . I’ll tell you it’s terrible Karma .

[RiverDog]

I read that the Browns are in constant contact with Mayfields agent trying to work out something . He could be cut . I’ve heard a few rumors linking Garropolo to Seattle but again for that money ? Your paying him almost as much as Russ who is a far more dynamic QB. However Garrapalo has been to a Super Bowl and possibly a dropped int from 2 in the last 3 years while Russ hasn’t been past a WC in 8. Returning to Mayfield who is the first qb in Cleveland to win anything but had a dreadful down year after a nice year. . So you say well we’re getting a guy Wilson’s stature , not as athletic or accurate . Far more turnovers for 19 million. I don’t know what Lockes # is but my guess is far less for a cleaner sheet of paper and he’s a mobile 6’4” moose with a” hose “ arm . I was watching the first regular season game he played and thought at the time he looked pretty dynamic .
Geno can be had for probably 2 million and proved last year he’s far better than he was early in his career . He moved the chains , conducted a 98 yard drive vs the world champs cold , had an excellent final game . he’s 6’3.5, fairly mobile with a big accurate arm . Younger than Russ with 20% as much mileage . I could make a reasonable case for rolling with some combination of those guys , battle it out .
In other news the Thome family has cut ties with the browns over bringing in Watson . I’ll tell you it’s terrible Karma .

FYI Drew Lock's (note correct spelling) career TD:INT ratio is 25:20, worse than Mayfield's 92:56, and we all know how adverse Pete is to turnovers. He has to clean that up. Lock's completion percentage is 59.3%, and Pete has said that his QB's need to be in the 65% region.

Even though he could be had for $2M, the Hawks haven't rushed to re-sign Geno, which could mean that we have our eyes on a QB in the draft, so don't hold your breath.

[obiken]

River, trying to reach HT now is like trying to reach a Trump supporter. All we can do is wait and play out the charade, 10 wins, give me a break!

[RiverDog]

River, trying to reach HT now is like trying to reach a Trump supporter. All we can do is wait and play out the charade, 10 wins, give me a break!

I'm not trying to 'reach' anyone. My object isn't to convert anyone to my POV, I'm just expressing my opinion. And I don't think it preposterous to feel that we could win 10 games next season, at least not at this point. After all, we have on paper what looks to be a very soft schedule. But, yes, our friend HT has suddenly joined the glass half full side of the forum, and that's perfectly fine with me. We don't all have to be Debbie Downers.

[Hawktawk]

River, trying to reach HT now is like trying to reach a Trump supporter. All we can do is wait and play out the charade, 10 wins, give me a break!

I'm not trying to 'reach' anyone. My object isn't to convert anyone to my POV, I'm just expressing my opinion. And I don't think it preposterous to feel that we could win 10 games next season, at least not at this point. After all, we have on paper what looks to be a very soft schedule. But, yes, our friend HT has suddenly joined the glass half full side of the forum, and that's perfectly fine with me. We don't all have to be Debbie Downers.

Not sure what you’re quip about getting me hopes up meant ? If JS wants to move on from Geno it’s his perogative . I trust him more than Russ. All I know is at the same press conference regarding Wilson officially being traded Pete specifically mentioned Geno , said he had “ total command “ of the offense and so was ahead of the competition in that regard . So if he isn’t signed to me it means they are planning on taking a QB or signing mayfield or something . It would also illustrate once again the power shift as PC has already insinuated he didn’t want to trade Wilson and that he had wanted to try to keep Wagner .
My optimism is not all of a sudden . It started growing in the last 6 games as we finally had a dominant run game to set up
Play action and give the defense a rest . We won 4 of 6, should have been 5 and could have been all of them with a little better QB play I attributed to injury . The last 2 games he was mostly great , Penney set NFL records . I was ready to run it back out with Russ and was somewhat surprised when it went down . But the more I learn about the utter dysfunction there had to be with coaches in that locker room coupled with a substandard year from the disgruntled guy I can imagine the paint on the walls of the V Mac turned a lighter shade . It had to be a 5000 lb gorilla for a couple years .

Razz all you want but I noticed in Genos starts how hard guys fought , postgame razzing on Twitter . DK “. Never had a ball like that “ Diggs “ you’re slower than at West Virginia and you suck at video games . “ a real affection. Something tells me the reaction would have been the same with any team first backup . It’s the first guy in 10 years not named Wilson . They rallied .
I think PC and JS and a lot of our guys coming back have a point they want to prove . Let’s see if they can .

[RiverDog]

Not sure what you’re quip about getting me hopes up meant?

Just a little jab at your preoccupation with Geno.

If JS wants to move on from Geno it’s his perogative . I trust him more than Russ. All I know is at the same press conference regarding Wilson officially being traded Pete specifically mentioned Geno , said he had “ total command “ of the offense and so was ahead of the competition in that regard . So if he isn’t signed to me it means they are planning on taking a QB or signing mayfield or something . It would also illustrate once again the power shift as PC has already insinuated he didn’t want to trade Wilson and that he had wanted to try to keep Wagner .
My optimism is not all of a sudden . It started growing in the last 6 games as we finally had a dominant run game to set up
Play action and give the defense a rest . We won 4 of 6, should have been 5 and could have been all of them with a little better QB play I attributed to injury . The last 2 games he was mostly great , Penney set NFL records . I was ready to run it back out with Russ and was somewhat surprised when it went down . But the more I learn about the utter dysfunction there had to be with coaches in that locker room coupled with a substandard year from the disgruntled guy I can imagine the paint on the walls of the V Mac turned a lighter shade . It had to be a 5000 lb gorilla for a couple years .

Razz all you want but I noticed in Genos starts how hard guys fought , postgame razzing on Twitter . DK “. Never had a ball like that “ Diggs “ you’re slower than at West Virginia and you suck at video games . “ a real affection. Something tells me the reaction would have been the same with any team first backup . It’s the first guy in 10 years not named Wilson . They rallied .
I think PC and JS and a lot of our guys coming back have a point they want to prove . Let’s see if they can .

My guess is that if the Hawks had firm intentions of bringing back Geno to compete for the starting position that they would have signed him by now. He is, after all, a free agent and can sign with any team, so waiting runs the risk of someone else swooping him up. IMO the Hawks are waiting until after the draft when they get a better idea of what their roster is going to look like. There's also the matter of Geno's recent run-in with the law. As far as I know, he still hasn't been charged but I haven't seen anything saying that he won't be, so perhaps the Hawks, and other teams for that matter, are waiting to see how that's going to shake out.

[NorthHawk]

If Geno was starting material he wouldn’t be waiting to be signed. There are too many teams
looking for a starting caliber QB or improvement to let him sit, so it would seem HT is out of
step with the coaches and gms of the NFL.

[Aseahawkfan]

If Geno was starting material he wouldn’t be waiting to be signed. There are too many teams
looking for a starting caliber QB or improvement to let him sit, so it would seem HT is out of
step with the coaches and gms of the NFL.

I don't buy Geno. Hawktawk's stats are nothing more than a small sample size bias. Geno over a season never put up numbers like Russ. It's ridiculous to compare the two.