Free Agency 2022

[Stream Hawk]

Why does it seem Pete & John are incapable of building from the line? Trent Brown would have been a hit.

[tarlhawk]

Why does it seem Pete & John are incapable of building from the line? Trent Brown would have been a hit.

It was reported that he agreed to come back to New England to give them an opportunity to beat any offers he might get from outside the New England organization. It seemed like a missed opportunity but deals aren't completed till the contract is actually signed...

[NorthHawk]

We've lost so much talent that we have to overpay to get quality FA's and we've slipped back to the position that players are using us
to get leverage on teams they really want to go to. We've seen this play out before so it's no surprise to me.
It's just a sad reality of where we are in the rebuild phase.

[RiverDog]

We've lost so much talent that we have to overpay to get quality FA's and we've slipped back to the position that players are using us to get leverage on teams they really want to go to. We've seen this play out before so it's no surprise to me. It's just a sad reality of where we are in the rebuild phase.

When you combine your observation with the fact that neither Watson or Mayfield expressed any interest in coming here, I'd say that's a pretty fair indictment of how players are viewing this organization. It used to be that this was one of the top destinations of choice for players. Not anymore.

[Hawktawk]

Oh for God sakes stop it . Maybe the line will look better when they don’t have a qb holding the ball 5 seconds or running out of a clean pocket . Maybe they will look better with a pro bowl caliber running back who came back to prove it wasn’t a fluke . Maybe the FO will have a clearer mind and sense of direction without dealing with a disgruntled QB eating up
35 million .

Let’s see what happens . I hadn’t heard Mayfield wanted “ nothing to do with us “ simply he preferred the colts who just signed Matt Ryan so let’s see about Mayfield . He’s running out of needy teams .As for Watson we couldn’t afford the price . He wasn’t going to Cleveland either till they gave him 240 million dollars fully guaranteed .


I was re reading the transcript of PCs remarks post trade and he made clear among other things that this was Russels idea which is why it happened . But in the statement he mentioned he wasn’t concerned about Locke if it came to that and he also had no problem if Geno wound up starting . I feel the same way . I’m optimistic . Pete ball won us a Lombardi and it’s what we will definitely be playing .

[RiverDog]

Oh for God sakes stop it . Maybe the line will look better when they don’t have a qb holding the ball 5 seconds or running out of a clean pocket. Maybe they will look better with a pro bowl caliber running back who came back to prove it wasn’t a fluke . Maybe the FO will have a clearer mind and sense of direction without dealing with a disgruntled QB eating up
35 million .

Let’s see what happens . I hadn’t heard Mayfield wanted “ nothing to do with us “ simply he preferred the colts who just signed Matt Ryan so let’s see about Mayfield . He’s running out of needy teams .As for Watson we couldn’t afford the price . He wasn’t going to Cleveland either till they gave him 240 million dollars fully guaranteed .


I was re reading the transcript of PCs remarks post trade and he made clear among other things that this was Russels idea which is why it happened . But in the statement he mentioned he wasn’t concerned about Locke if it came to that and he also had no problem if Geno wound up starting . I feel the same way . I’m optimistic . Pete ball won us a Lombardi and it’s what we will definitely be playing .

For God's sake, stop it yourself!

What was posted is completely accurate. We are no longer a desirable destination like we once were, and the fact that neither Watson or Mayfield wants to play here is a completely legitimate example:

According to The Houston Chronicle, the Seattle Seahawks made an offer, but Watson would not waive his no-trade clause to head to the Pacific Northwest.

https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/hous ... 1294353498

Unlike Watson, Mayfield does not have a no trade clause in his contract, so he may end up having to come here. But if he wanted in, he damn sure would have included us when he expressed a preference for the Colts.

And if you don't like a quarterback holding onto the ball as long as Russell did, you'd better get off the Mayfield bandwagon as he holds onto it longer than Russell does.

[NorthHawk]

Oh for God sakes stop it . Maybe the line will look better when they don’t have a qb holding the ball 5 seconds or running out of a clean pocket . Maybe they will look better with a pro bowl caliber running back who came back to prove it wasn’t a fluke . Maybe the FO will have a clearer mind and sense of direction without dealing with a disgruntled QB eating up
35 million .

Let’s see what happens . I hadn’t heard Mayfield wanted “ nothing to do with us “ simply he preferred the colts who just signed Matt Ryan so let’s see about Mayfield . He’s running out of needy teams .As for Watson we couldn’t afford the price . He wasn’t going to Cleveland either till they gave him 240 million dollars fully guaranteed .


I was re reading the transcript of PCs remarks post trade and he made clear among other things that this was Russels idea which is why it happened . But in the statement he mentioned he wasn’t concerned about Locke if it came to that and he also had no problem if Geno wound up starting . I feel the same way . I’m optimistic . Pete ball won us a Lombardi and it’s what we will definitely be playing .

So after all that’s been said and done you still believe what Pete says?

[RiverDog]

Oh for God sakes stop it . Maybe the line will look better when they don’t have a qb holding the ball 5 seconds or running out of a clean pocket . Maybe they will look better with a pro bowl caliber running back who came back to prove it wasn’t a fluke . Maybe the FO will have a clearer mind and sense of direction without dealing with a disgruntled QB eating up
35 million .

Let’s see what happens . I hadn’t heard Mayfield wanted “ nothing to do with us “ simply he preferred the colts who just signed Matt Ryan so let’s see about Mayfield . He’s running out of needy teams .As for Watson we couldn’t afford the price . He wasn’t going to Cleveland either till they gave him 240 million dollars fully guaranteed .


I was re reading the transcript of PCs remarks post trade and he made clear among other things that this was Russels idea which is why it happened . But in the statement he mentioned he wasn’t concerned about Locke if it came to that and he also had no problem if Geno wound up starting . I feel the same way . I’m optimistic . Pete ball won us a Lombardi and it’s what we will definitely be playing .

So after all that’s been said and done you still believe what Pete says?

Good point. Although I don't blame him for lying about the Wilson trade, Pete has done some major damage to his credibility. It's going to be pretty damn hard to take what he says at face value anymore. Not that I'm anymore likely to trust Russell than I am Pete, just that neither one of them can be trusted to be candid.

[c_hawkbob]

Indy just traded for Matt Ryan so it's not likely Baker will go there. FWIW.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlant ... YLJFS5FIQ/

[c_hawkbob]

Looks like Marcus Mariota is heading to Atlanta now too.

[obiken]

River, I think it’s an even bet y now that Mayfield comes to Seattle. My question as a Hawks fan, is how are him and drew Locke going to get along together in the same locker room???!!!!

[mykc14]

River, I think it’s an even bet y now that Mayfield comes to Seattle. My question as a Hawks fan, is how are him and drew Locke going to get along together in the same locker room???!!!!

I don't think so. The fact that they didn't even seem to be looking at other FA options says to me they are perfectly fine with having Lock as a bridge QB and I would expect us to draft a QB. I'm not saying we wouldn't make a move if something crazy became available but it seems to me we are getting younger/cheaper at the QB position. I wouldn't be surprised to see them trying to replicate what they created during their first SB run, which would mean they draft a QB either this year or next year. If I were a betting man I would bet that we use one of our early 2nd round picks on a QB our trade back into the end of the 1st and grab one. There is a chance we trade back and pick one in the teens, but I doubt we just use out #9 on a QB.

[Aseahawkfan]

River, I think it’s an even bet y now that Mayfield comes to Seattle. My question as a Hawks fan, is how are him and drew Locke going to get along together in the same locker room???!!!!

My thought is I'd rather get everything else in place first, then find the QB. It seems to me that it's better to spend your high draft capital on getting a strong defense and run game in place, then find a good enough QB to get you to the Super Bowl and win.

I've watched QBs like Rodgers, Mahomes, and even Russell put up great numbers, they keep losing to more complete teams with better defenses, better run games, and better overall teams.

The only great QB to realize and act on the fact that taking less money at QB to have a better team around you is necessary to win Super Bowls is Tom Brady. The rest of them keep their teams going to the playoffs, but lose to the overall better team most of the time. As important as the QB is, a weaker QB on a better team has a great chance of winning a Super Bowl.

Football is the ultimate team sport. You have to be good across the team to be great. Expensive QBs just don't allow this, expensive players period. Our great Seattle team had a bunch of well paid, but not break the bank players working in tandem to win. Seems we should put that together first, then find that QB whether in the draft or some journeyman like the Redskins used to do when they were winning Super Bowls.

[NorthHawk]

I read something like we only had about $13M in Cap space left so if we wanted Mayfield we would have to
cut some players, extend others or convert to cash some salaries and even then they would probably have
to sign him to a multi-year deal which probably isn’t something they want to do.

[Hawktawk]

Unless I’m mistaken Geno isn’t even signed although PC said he’d like him
Back . So do we have only Locke and that kid Eason on the roster ? It seems to me like there’s another shoe to drop . If they should sign Mayfiejd I’d assume he starts so do they ride with Locke as a backup and have 2 young high draft picks . Or do they deal Locke in that instance and bring Geno in dirt cheap to back up
, seems like some unfinished business . Maybe not . Maybe Pete was being honest when he said he’s cool riding with Locke and Geno .

As for the deal with Wilson and Carroll I think we all understand you have to be quiet in the middle of a trade like this . In a way they are the same guy . Glib positive psychobabble that says nothing and can be interpreted 10 different ways


Pete was perfectly honest that while they were “ not shopping him “ exact quote they were “listening to offers “ “ always looking to make the team better “ Russ on the other hand jumped on an ESPN reporter who asked about the rumors “ you guys make stuff up , blow it out of proportion “ within a week of his trade he was loudly proclaiming he wasn’t going to the commanders , doesn’t want to be on the east coast , likes the west coast . “ I want to win 3 or 4 more superbowls I hope it’s here “ as his agent was swearing at the man who gave him a chance , making sure they understood Russ was not signing an extension and wanted to leave now. Naw there’s degrees. Russ is a great athlete , great QB , lots of memories , better very early .

But he’s really lost me 100% with these last 2 years it’s been eroding awhile . Probably since his flippant comments after losing to Atlanta in 2016 divisional .
First Ciara year . voodoo princess. Gang bangers who already rode his bike on the Atlanta sidelines jeering Russ . Lousy game but didn’t own it. It’s just gotten worse and worse . The last 5 years he has been Mr regular season . I’m glad he’s gone . Good luck in Denver . It might get a lot worse before it gets better but it was time to pull the ripcord .

[NorthHawk]

Pete said we have no intention of trading Wilson while they were in negotiations to do so.
Not very honest if you ask me.
Just take everything they say with a grain of salt.

[Aseahawkfan]

Yeah. Pete and John play tight to the vest. You can't take anything they say seriously. You have to let them do what they do and hope it works.

[mykc14]

I read something like we only had about $13M in Cap space left so if we wanted Mayfield we would have to
cut some players, extend others or convert to cash some salaries and even then they would probably have
to sign him to a multi-year deal which probably isn’t something they want to do.

That's interesting. I've been reading that we have 31 million in cap space which is currently the most in the NFL.

[RiverDog]

Unless I’m mistaken Geno isn’t even signed although PC said he’d like him
Back . So do we have only Locke and that kid Eason on the roster ? It seems to me like there’s another shoe to drop . If they should sign Mayfiejd I’d assume he starts so do they ride with Locke as a backup and have 2 young high draft picks . Or do they deal Locke in that instance and bring Geno in dirt cheap to back up
, seems like some unfinished business . Maybe not . Maybe Pete was being honest when he said he’s cool riding with Locke and Geno .

As for the deal with Wilson and Carroll I think we all understand you have to be quiet in the middle of a trade like this . In a way they are the same guy . Glib positive psychobabble that says nothing and can be interpreted 10 different ways


Pete was perfectly honest that while they were “ not shopping him “ exact quote they were “listening to offers “ “ always looking to make the team better “ Russ on the other hand jumped on an ESPN reporter who asked about the rumors “ you guys make stuff up , blow it out of proportion “ within a week of his trade he was loudly proclaiming he wasn’t going to the commanders , doesn’t want to be on the east coast , likes the west coast . “ I want to win 3 or 4 more superbowls I hope it’s here “ as his agent was swearing at the man who gave him a chance , making sure they understood Russ was not signing an extension and wanted to leave now. Naw there’s degrees. Russ is a great athlete , great QB , lots of memories , better very early .

But he’s really lost me 100% with these last 2 years it’s been eroding awhile . Probably since his flippant comments after losing to Atlanta in 2016 divisional .
First Ciara year . voodoo princess. Gang bangers who already rode his bike on the Atlanta sidelines jeering Russ . Lousy game but didn’t own it. It’s just gotten worse and worse . The last 5 years he has been Mr regular season . I’m glad he’s gone . Good luck in Denver . It might get a lot worse before it gets better but it was time to pull the ripcord .

You really need to quit referencing that Pete said this or that Pete said that. He's not credible. Here's a direct quote from Pete that he made on March 2nd, less than a week before the Wilson trade was announced:

We have no intention of making any move there (trading Wilson)

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/03/08/russe ... %20history.

Did you read those two words? NO INTENTION. That was a bold faced lie as you don't make a complicated move that involved 5 draft picks and 3 players in that short amount of time with a franchise quarterback that has a no trade clause. It's apparent that at the very moment Pete made that statement that they were having serious discussions that had been going on for at least several weeks if not a month or longer.

[NorthHawk]

We signed Justin Coleman back from the Dolphins.
He had some good years with us as a DB but apparently he’s going to compete for the
CB spot that DJ Reed played.