Penny has arrived

[tarlhawk]

The post is about Penny...but the 12 million+ FT tag was concerning keeping Diggs in place for an extended 3 to 4 yr contract.

[NorthHawk]

The post is about Penny...but the 12 million+ FT tag was concerning keeping Diggs in place for an extended 3 to 4 yr contract.

But the FT is $13M guaranteed. For a 1 year contract. So if it were offered and he signed it he would have that amount as a starting point then try to negotiate 2 or 3 more years
all with some types of guaranteed money.
BUT he will then be 32 or 33 years old which is usually past the point of peak productivity, meaning we would have to cut him and take the hit.
And it all goes back to the worst trade in Seahawks history...

[Stream Hawk]

Penny’s back at 1 year. Turned down more money elsewhere. LFG
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/150 ... 64321?s=21

[Hawktawk]

Penny’s back at 1 year. Turned down more money elsewhere. LFG
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/150 ... 64321?s=21

I looked at that big smile and I said this is an honest happy kid, happy to be able to play football again. YES!!!!!!I dont care whose behind center we are now officially not rebuilding We have potentially the most dynamic back in the league. I knew someone would make a run at him. Wonder what he turned down. Rare character in this league now days.

[RiverDog]

Penny’s back at 1 year. Turned down more money elsewhere. LFG
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/150 ... 64321?s=21

$5.75M is a good deal. Now, if he can just stay healthy!

[Hawktawk]

$5.75M is a good deal. Now, if he can just stay healthy!

Reports more than one other team made a run at him. Its refreshing to see a guy reward loyalty like that. Health and motivation are key factors going forward obviously but the guy proved the ability to be an elite player lugging the rock and perhaps left millions on the table to be a Seahawk.

[Aseahawkfan]

Penny’s back at 1 year. Turned down more money elsewhere. LFG
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/150 ... 64321?s=21

That's a very reasonable deal. I thought some team would throw stupid money at him. But I guess once the season is over and you analyze his statistics, they were great against some garbage teams and the Rams still held him down.

Another 1 year shot to see if he can make the NFL his job for a nice fat contract to set him up for life.

Good luck, Penny. Make it happen. This is your job, kid. Think of it like a job, prepare like a job, and let your talent pay them bills for life. Make it a win-win for yourself and the team.

[tarlhawk]

Excellent expected signing...the deal works both ways for team and player. I feel like the quietness in free agency is because we are limiting free agency to players accepting 1 to 2 year contracts knowing that 2023 our team cap will baloon to where we can convert some of the young 1 year contracts into pay rewarding their 2022 expected contributions.

It also gives us flexibility with 2022 cap space to pursue QB competition for Lock. With a focus on running and sound defense (still possible via strong draft picks and high draft position of those draft picks) our QB needs to be a "point-guard" with an arm capable of exploiting the success of our running game yet able to safely complete whatever the opponent's defense is giving or use our two "weapons" (DK and Lockett) taking the top off a defense focused on stopping Penny/Carson. Eskridge could be a surprise as a Receiving/Running threat yet to be fully developed as an "ACE" up our offensive sleeve. Our much maligned offensive line is better built for strong Rush/Quick read release type of QB play.

The draft itself offers great diversity...do we keep Pocic as backup/competition for Austin or do we go for Linderbaum at C with Austin/Pocic as G/C Backups? Targeting Linderbaum might allow us to trade down from #9 to mid-round if the gain is worth the risk of losing a "generational" pick like Linderbaum. Most draft boards would label Linderbaum a "reach" at number nine...especially if one of the three LT studs slips to #9...or is Edge the target without "moving up" in the draft with three Edge Beasts lurking/falling?

[Hawktawk]

Penny’s back at 1 year. Turned down more money elsewhere. LFG
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/150 ... 64321?s=21

But I guess once the season is over and you analyze his statistics, they were great against some garbage teams and the Rams still held him down.


If several other teams offered more for him Id say they were OK with the stats. He was the #1 remaining FA back on the board per PFF. He set a couple of NFL records. He helped Russ greatly recover his value in trade by running that offense to a level it hadn't seen in years with balance and explosion in both the run and pass game.

Every garbage team beats good teams all the time and nobody stopped him in that 6 week period but PC by giving more carries to Dee Jay vs the Rams than Penney. I think he had 10 carries, 3.9 average despite Russ refusing to sell the read or break the pocket at all most of the night since he was in check out mode that game. He checked back in for the last 2 games for the farewell tour.
Kind of like when Penney was healthy early in his career and PC chose Carson over a guy just as big but faster and more elusive who averaged 6.1YPC for his CAREER when getting over 10 carries. Penney himself said a while back that its really hard to function as a running back getting a carry here and there.

It seems to me vs AZ he didn't do much early and almost seemed to go off after Buda Baker gator rolled him and twisted his knee. I think he had 130 yards after that play and the way he grimaced when it happened I thought the injury bug had bit him again. Great backs are like that. The later in the game it gets the better. The dam breaks. I think Carroll mismanaged his career then he got hurt. But if he stays healthy he will prove his doubters very wrong. I'm excited for him to get his chance to be the man.

[Aseahawkfan]

But I guess once the season is over and you analyze his statistics, they were great against some garbage teams and the Rams still held him down.


If several other teams offered more for him Id say they were OK with the stats. He was the #1 remaining FA back on the board per PFF. He set a couple of NFL records. He helped Russ greatly recover his value in trade by running that offense to a level it hadn't seen in years with balance and explosion in both the run and pass game.

Every garbage team beats good teams all the time and nobody stopped him in that 6 week period but PC by giving more carries to Dee Jay vs the Rams than Penney. I think he had 10 carries, 3.9 average despite Russ refusing to sell the read or break the pocket at all most of the night since he was in check out mode that game. He checked back in for the last 2 games for the farewell tour.
Kind of like when Penney was healthy early in his career and PC chose Carson over a guy just as big but faster and more elusive who averaged 6.1YPC for his CAREER when getting over 10 carries. Penney himself said a while back that its really hard to function as a running back getting a carry here and there.

It seems to me vs AZ he didn't do much early and almost seemed to go off after Buda Baker gator rolled him and twisted his knee. I think he had 130 yards after that play and the way he grimaced when it happened I thought the injury bug had bit him again. Great backs are like that. The later in the game it gets the better. The dam breaks. I think Carroll mismanaged his career then he got hurt. But if he stays healthy he will prove his doubters very wrong. I'm excited for him to get his chance to be the man.

Great backs start strong and keep on going.

[NorthHawk]

One year prove it deal. No long term commitment.
We get to see if the last few games were just a flash in the pan or not.

[RiverDog]

One year prove it deal. No long term commitment. We get to see if the last few games were just a flash in the pan or not.

That pretty much sums up my feelings. It's a fair deal for both parties. We're only on the hook for one season and ended up resigning him to just a little more than it would have cost us to pick up his 5th year option and he has an opportunity to parlay this into a huge payday if he shows that the last 1/4 of last season wasn't a fluke. It also buys us some time to see what's going to happen with Carson.

[Oly]

Everything about that contract is a best-case scenario for the team. I'm excited to see what he can do next year.

[Hawktawk]

If several other teams offered more for him Id say they were OK with the stats. He was the #1 remaining FA back on the board per PFF. He set a couple of NFL records. He helped Russ greatly recover his value in trade by running that offense to a level it hadn't seen in years with balance and explosion in both the run and pass game.

Every garbage team beats good teams all the time and nobody stopped him in that 6 week period but PC by giving more carries to Dee Jay vs the Rams than Penney. I think he had 10 carries, 3.9 average despite Russ refusing to sell the read or break the pocket at all most of the night since he was in check out mode that game. He checked back in for the last 2 games for the farewell tour.
Kind of like when Penney was healthy early in his career and PC chose Carson over a guy just as big but faster and more elusive who averaged 6.1YPC for his CAREER when getting over 10 carries. Penney himself said a while back that its really hard to function as a running back getting a carry here and there.

It seems to me vs AZ he didn't do much early and almost seemed to go off after Buda Baker gator rolled him and twisted his knee. I think he had 130 yards after that play and the way he grimaced when it happened I thought the injury bug had bit him again. Great backs are like that. The later in the game it gets the better. The dam breaks. I think Carroll mismanaged his career then he got hurt. But if he stays healthy he will prove his doubters very wrong. I'm excited for him to get his chance to be the man.

Great backs start strong and keep on going.

Not always . Seattle held Derrick Henry to 30 yards in the first half in week 2. He went off for 150 in the second half . There’s times great backs never get going . Beast had 38 yards in 48, about 20 on one carry . Other than a1 yard TD run he was meaningless. Harvin outrushed him on 2 carries . Great hitters don’t always hit a home run . Doesn’t mean they aren’t great . Penney has that potential if he’s healthy . It makes the tender of Phil Haynes even more important as he was the engine and Penney the caboose on lots of those house calls according to Dave Wyman . I’m pumped

[Hawktawk]

Everything about that contract is a best-case scenario for the team. I'm excited to see what he can do next year.

The fact he stayed and took less is really hard to believe . An honest kid who said he would do exactly what he did . It’s a major score for the team . I’d love to know who else was bidding .

[RiverDog]

Everything about that contract is a best-case scenario for the team. I'm excited to see what he can do next year.

The fact he stayed and took less is really hard to believe . An honest kid who said he would do exactly what he did . It’s a major score for the team . I’d love to know who else was bidding .

Before we start blowing too many kisses at Penny, we don't know why he stayed, whether it was loyalty to his coaches, his teammates, or fans, whether he and/or his wife/gf/kids didn't want to leave friends and family, if they liked the area and didn't want to take up ice fishing in Minnesota or spend summers swatting mosquitos in the humidity in New Orleans, or if career wise he simply felt that a bird in the hand was worth two in the bush. For sure, it was a home town discount, but what it was that motivated him to give us one is something none of us know. He's not the first player to have opted to stay with his current team for less money than he could have gotten somewhere else.

And as far as his honesty goes, yes, it's nice to see it once in awhile. But keep in mind that a lot of people once lauded Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll for their honesty, too, and we all know how that turned out.

[tarlhawk]

The reason is only half as important as the actual re-signing. We missed out on T. Brown and perhaps even D. Brown but the upcoming draft holds promise when we've picked our share of free agency "targets"... Our 2022 QB will have a strong running game and a plethora of receiving targets to keep Defenses from stacking the box. Waldron has us headed in the right direction and Andy Dickerson has renewed purpose with the re-signing of Penny. The question remains on what version of Drew Lock do we get? Can our coaching exploit his strong traits and restore his QB confidence? Our defense seems to be in the process of renewal with heavy emphasis on the 3-4 alignment...making it stronger while using a couple strong draft picks on our o-line could provide a quick remedy from our recent losing season.

[RiverDog]

The reason is only half as important as the actual re-signing (of Penny).

I'm not even sure that I'd assign that much importance to the reason. Bottom line is that we got him back under a team friendly contract.

We missed out on T. Brown and perhaps even D. Brown but the upcoming draft holds promise when we've picked our share of free agency "targets"... Our 2022 QB will have a strong running game and a plethora of receiving targets to keep Defenses from stacking the box. Waldron has us headed in the right direction and Andy Dickerson has renewed purpose with the re-signing of Penny. The question remains on what version of Drew Lock do we get? Can our coaching exploit his strong traits and restore his QB confidence? Our defense seems to be in the process of renewal with heavy emphasis on the 3-4 alignment...making it stronger while using a couple strong draft picks on our o-line could provide a quick remedy from our recent losing season.

That's the really, really glass half full, 17-0 regular season Lombardi winning optimistic POV. We don't know how our offensive line is going to shape up, we don't know if Penny's performance in the last month of last season was a preview of things to come or if it was just a flash in the pan, and most importantly, we don't know who our quarterback is going to be or how he will interact with our offense.

I agree with you that there's good reason to believe that there's at least a fair chance that we can get things turned around, but we could just as easily do another face plant.

[NorthHawk]

If Waldron uses the same formula for OL, we should expect to see monsters at tackle and smaller, quicker players in the middle.
Last year the Tackles were Whitworth at 6-7 330lbs and Havenstein at 6-8 330lbs but the interior was in the 300 - 310lbs range.
With Whitworth retired, Jackson is said to be the replacement but he's only 285lbs but he's 6-7 so maybe it's a height goal instead
of a weight goal as it would be difficult to see someone put on 45lbs and still be able to move as well. He could put on 15 to 25lbs
though but it would still be light relative to past players at OT.
If size and weight is a requirement, we should expect to see Shell back but if it's only height then Forsythe and Curran would fit,
from a length perspective. Whether they can produce at a high enough level remains to be seen.
With the signing of Blythe at 6-3, 298 the Center fits the scheme but both Pocic and Fuller are 6-5 and 320lbs or thereabouts.
The Guards are in the 320 - 340lb range so they are larger than the Rams OL.
If the IOL has the required quickness it won't be a problem, but usually bigger players are not as quick.
This is if Waldron wants to follow the Rams script but maybe he has ideas of a hybrid type OL where we take advantage of bulk
and not just quickness.
I guess we will have to wait and see. I just hope they don't draft an OT too early when there are probably going to be some
outstanding DL available at #9.

[Hawktawk]

Phil haynes was tendered and graded highly down the stretch . Dave Wyman who I respect greatly said Haynes blocks and Penney’s runs were the combo down the stretch . Haynes is a road grader but can move a little too.

[Aseahawkfan]

Before we start blowing too many kisses at Penny, we don't know why he stayed, whether it was loyalty to his coaches, his teammates, or fans, whether he and/or his wife/gf/kids didn't want to leave friends and family, if they liked the area and didn't want to take up ice fishing in Minnesota or spend summers swatting mosquitos in the humidity in New Orleans, or if career wise he simply felt that a bird in the hand was worth two in the bush. For sure, it was a home town discount, but what it was that motivated him to give us one is something none of us know. He's not the first player to have opted to stay with his current team for less money than he could have gotten somewhere else.

And as far as his honesty goes, yes, it's nice to see it once in awhile. But keep in mind that a lot of people once lauded Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll for their honesty, too, and we all know how that turned out.

We don't even know what else he was offered. He didn't get offered stupid money, so that is good.

A one year 5.75 million dollar deal is a best case scenario for Seattle. I knew once recency bias had worn off, people would look at the entirety of his career and not just four or five great games to decide what to spend.

The number of great backs that weren't great before an injury, spent four years doing nearly nothing, had a serious injury, then came back in year four, had a great stretch of games near the end of the year, and then went on to a great career must be infinitesimal. I can't think of any off the top of my head. Maybe some old school football fans can think of it, but I can't.

I'm hoping for the best, but not expecting much as far as Penny goes. Be nice to see a guy suddenly blow up in year five, but I don't think I've seen it too much save for a handful of QBs who had better careers later or at least serviceable.

[RiverDog]

Before we start blowing too many kisses at Penny, we don't know why he stayed, whether it was loyalty to his coaches, his teammates, or fans, whether he and/or his wife/gf/kids didn't want to leave friends and family, if they liked the area and didn't want to take up ice fishing in Minnesota or spend summers swatting mosquitos in the humidity in New Orleans, or if career wise he simply felt that a bird in the hand was worth two in the bush. For sure, it was a home town discount, but what it was that motivated him to give us one is something none of us know. He's not the first player to have opted to stay with his current team for less money than he could have gotten somewhere else.

And as far as his honesty goes, yes, it's nice to see it once in awhile. But keep in mind that a lot of people once lauded Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll for their honesty, too, and we all know how that turned out.

We don't even know what else he was offered. He didn't get offered stupid money, so that is good.

A one year 5.75 million dollar deal is a best case scenario for Seattle. I knew once recency bias had worn off, people would look at the entirety of his career and not just four or five great games to decide what to spend.

The number of great backs that weren't great before an injury, spent four years doing nearly nothing, had a serious injury, then came back in year four, had a great stretch of games near the end of the year, and then went on to a great career must be infinitesimal. I can't think of any off the top of my head. Maybe some old school football fans can think of it, but I can't.

I'm hoping for the best, but not expecting much as far as Penny goes. Be nice to see a guy suddenly blow up in year five, but I don't think I've seen it too much save for a handful of QBs who had better careers later or at least serviceable.

It's a very fair contract for both sides. Had we picked up Penny's 5th year option, he'd be making $4.5M, so from his POV, he has to be happy as a clam to be getting an extra $1M+ with incentives to make $750K more. Plus if he does do well, with just a one year contract, he's in a position to get that stupid money you're talking about.

And from our POV, it takes care of a need as we didn't want to go into the season with our feature RB coming off a serious neck injury and no one to back him up in case he can't go or gets injured again. We have a lot of holes to fill on the roster and with this signing, we don't have to prioritize a RB.

I agree with you that it's unlikely that Penny 'suddenly blows up in Year 5', which is why he only got a 1 year offer. But who knows.

[Hawktawk]

For his career Penney averages 6.1 yards per carry when given 10 or more carries .he had a couple 100 yards games sharing carries with Carson . He was misused as a rookie leading to stunted development and a wildcard loss .

He was ready to take Carson’s job till injury . His flash in the pan the last 6 weeks of the season which was EXACTLY the type of explosion and power and speed he’s always had when healthy was historic , nfl record setting .

He’s coming back as the feature back . Anyone who thinks he’s backing up carson isn’t paying attention .

And nobody knows what he was offered except he and his agent and the teams offering . All offered more .It might have been a lot more . A second year perhaps ? A million dollars ? Hell 500 K? It’s a huge deal . I think it’s remarkable a kid who spent 4 seasons being talked crap about and booed due to a coach who was Stevie wonder and an injury out of his control wanted to come back at all .

I’m reading stuff written by pennys a bust people right now . You said he was just turning it up in a contract year to get more money and I said BS because that kid has character and he said he coming back . Well?

There was far more interest in Penney in FA than Carson last year as I recall . Carson’s good healthy which is almost never . He really can’t carry Penney’s jock strap if both are healthy . If Penney’s healthy he’s going for 1500 yards and 10 TDs minimum next year . If he isn’t healthy oh well we paid him Carson money and got the same result . I never saw Carson outrun an all pro safety 4 or 5 times in a game . I’m exctatic.

[RiverDog]

For his career Penney averages 6.1 yards per carry when given 10 or more carries .he had a couple 100 yards games sharing carries with Carson . He was misused as a rookie leading to stunted development a wildcard loss . He was ready to take Carson’s job till injury . His flash in the pan which was exactly the type of explosion and power and speed he’s always had when healthy was historic , nfl record setting . He’s coming back as the feature back . And nobody knows what he was offered except he and bus agent and the teams offering . There was far more interest in Penney in FA than Carson last year as I recall . Carson’s good healthy which is almost never . He really can’t carry Penney’s jock strap if both are healthy . If Penney’s healthy he’s going for 1500 yards and 10 TDs minimum next year . If he isn’t healthy oh well we paid him Carson money and got the same result . I never saw Carson outrun an all pro safety 4 or 5 times in a game . I’m exctatic.

Penny was ready to take Carson's job until injury? Carson can't carry Penny's jock strap when healthy? Says who? And Carson is never healthy, as if Penny has been? Where in the heck have you been these past 4 years?

The fact is that Penny looked awful in preseason last year, had 32 yards on 12 carries and was out played by Alex Collins. He's spent more time in the hot tub than he has on the playing field. If he was ready to take Carson's job as you claim he was, don't you think that we would have picked up his 5th year option? It would have been cheaper than what we signed him to this season. You're engaging in some serious revisionist history.

When healthy, Carson has always been the #1 back, both in the coaches eyes as well as the eye test. That's why they resigned him last season. He's the better all around back that can play on all 3 downs. That may have changed, especially in light of Carson's neck injury that has the potential of being a career ender, but the fact is that up until the last few games in 2021, Penny was widely considered a bust. The last few games of this season has given Penny a second chance and he may, indeed, have turned the corner, but please, quit talking him up as if he's the second coming of Jimmy Brown.

[Hawktawk]

]For his career Penney averages 6.1 yards per carry when given 10 or more carries .he had a couple 100 yards games sharing carries with Carson . He was misused as a rookie leading to stunted development a wildcard loss . He was ready to take Carson’s job till injury . His flash in the pan which was exactly the type of explosion and power and speed he’s always had when healthy was historic , nfl record setting . He’s coming back as the feature back . And nobody knows what he was offered except he and bus agent and the teams offering . There was far more interest in Penney in FA than Carson last year as I recall . Carson’s good healthy which is almost never . He really can’t carry Penney’s jock strap if both are healthy . If Penney’s healthy he’s going for 1500 yards and 10 TDs minimum next year . If he isn’t healthy oh well we paid him Carson money and got the same result . I never saw Carson outrun an all pro safety 4 or 5 times in a game . I’m exctatic

Penny was ready to take Carson's job until injury? Carson can't carry Penny's jock strap when healthy? Says who? And Carson is never healthy, as if Penny has been? Where in the heck have you been these past 4 years?

The fact is that Penny looked awful in preseason last year, had 32 yards on 12 carries and was out played by Alex Collins. He's spent more time in the hot tub than he has on the playing field. If he was ready to take Carson's job as you claim he was, don't you think that we would have picked up his 5th year option? It would have been cheaper than what we signed him to this season. You're engaging in some serious revisionist history.

When healthy, Carson has always been the #1 back, both in the coaches eyes as well as the eye test. That's why they resigned him last season. He's the better all around back that can play on all 3 downs. That may have changed, especially in light of Carson's neck injury that has the potential of being a career ender, but the fact is that up until the last few games in 2021, Penny was widely considered a bust. The last few games of this season has given Penny a second chance and he may, indeed, have turned the corner, but please, quit talking him up as if he's the second coming of Jimmy Brown.

Once again. Reversing hyperbole . Let me rephrase . Penney should have started as a rookie and had clearly shown himself more explosive at the second level . He was taking carries away from Carson in late 2019 when he was injured 20 yards downfield by a shot to the knee on an explosive play . Since then I know the story ok ?

You point out 32 yards on 12 carries in the preseason. I point out anytime Penney gets 10 or more he averaged 6.1 for his CAREER . Had he been getting 20 plus carries a game in 2018 the history of the Seahawks might have been better than a wildcard flameout with Carson plodding along for 20 yards on 14 carries while the benchwarmer had 29 on 4 and one was a 7 yard loss and still averaged 7.9. Carroll blew it . He got it wrong . It took Penney a long tine to get healthy but now he’s the same guy Pete underestimated the first year and a hakt of his career . I’m glad he’s back . I hope we’re around to settle the argument .

[RiverDog]

Once again. Reversing hyperbole . Let me rephrase . Penney should have started as a rookie and had clearly shown himself more explosive at the second level . He was taking carries away from Carson in late 2019 when he was injured 20 yards downfield by a shot to the knee on an explosive play . Since then I know the story ok ?

You point out 32 yards on 12 carries in the preseason. I point out anytime Penney gets 10 or more he averaged 6.1 for his CAREER . Had he been getting 20 plus carries a game in 2018 the history of the Seahawks might have been better than a wildcard flameout with Carson plodding along for 20 yards on 14 carries while the benchwarmer had 29 on 4 and one was a 7 yard loss and still averaged 7.9. Carroll blew it . He got it wrong . It took Penney a long tine to get healthy but now he’s the same guy Pete underestimated the first year and a hakt of his career . I’m glad he’s back . I hope we’re around to settle the argument .

Please, stop with the spin! You do it with every player that ignites your fantasies, whether it be Geno, Tim Tebow, or Baker Mayfield, not only with the X's and O's, but you dramatize/rationalize their personal attributes as well. Geno driving 96 mph on a Seattle freeway, drunk and belligerent with the cops? No problem! At least it wasn't as bad as Richard Sherman. Penny signs a $5+M contract? What a decent, honest, genuinely great guy he is! We all know that you like Penny, and that's fine. But you don't have to heap on the bull$hit. We've all seen him play over the past 4 seasons.

Bottom line is that Penny will be competing with Cris Carson for the starting job, assuming both are healthy. I'm glad to have him back on a team friendly prove it contract. We'll see how it goes.

[NorthHawk]

I think they have to select a good RB this year.
We can't go into the season with a questionable QB, a RB that might be injured too much to play, another RB that has a history of coming up flat
and a couple of RBs that are good situationally and expect the Offense to be anywhere near effective. Couple that with at the moment an OL that
might have 2 new starting and inexperienced Tackles and it's a big gamble to head into the season.

[RiverDog]

I think they have to select a good RB this year.
We can't go into the season with a questionable QB, a RB that might be injured too much to play, another RB that has a history of coming up flat
and a couple of RBs that are good situationally and expect the Offense to be anywhere near effective. Couple that with at the moment an OL that
might have 2 new starting and inexperienced Tackles and it's a big gamble to head into the season.

I want to see us rebuild both lines first, but so long as we don't do something stupid and trade away draft picks for player, we should have enough capital to acquire one if the right player falls to us, but I don't feel it's a high enough priority where we need to spend a high pick on one. There's a lot of very serviceable running backs out there.

[mykc14]

I want to see us rebuild both lines first, but so long as we don't do something stupid and trade away draft picks for player, we should have enough capital to acquire one if the right player falls to us, but I don't feel it's a high enough priority where we need to spend a high pick on one. There's a lot of very serviceable running backs out there.

I agree. I am hoping we pick defensive front 7 with two of our first three picks and OL with the other... I wouldn't hate Mat Corral if we went QB, but not not in round 1, especially not with pick #9 and honestly I would rather build upfront with those our first 3 picks.

[NorthHawk]

Provided they draft the right players.
Lynch made our OL look better than it was, and a good RB can make up for some inadequacies up front but generally speaking, the OL has to be upgraded
and the DL which at the moment seems to be solid in the middle needs another pass rusher now that Dunlap and Mayowa have been cut.
Perhaps if we go to a 3-4 we can get that pressure from a LB in the draft...

[Hawktawk]

Please, stop with the spin! You do it with every player that ignites your fantasies, whether it be Geno, Tim Tebow, or Baker Mayfield, not only with the X's and O's, but you dramatize/rationalize their personal attributes as well. Geno driving 96 mph on a Seattle freeway, drunk and belligerent with the cops? No problem! At least it wasn't as bad as Richard Sherman. Penny signs a $5+M contract? What a decent, honest, genuinely great guy he is! We all know that you like Penny, and that's fine. But you don't have to heap on the bull$hit. We've all seen him play over the past 4 seasons.

Bottom line is that Penny will be competing with Cris Carson for the starting job, assuming both are healthy. I'm glad to have him back on a team friendly prove it contract. We'll see how it goes.

Penney’s starting . Book it. And what was my fantasy ? Tebow we could argue . Did Geno produce more points and TDs in his final start then Wilson his next 3 ? Did he have a higher QBR ? Has Carroll spoken highly of him and suggested at a presser a few days ago he’s ok if he starts ? Show me where I said his DUI was fine ! I started the GD thread . But pulled over for speeding and getting popped for DUI is way different than drinking 2 fifths and crashing into a barrier , driving off on 3 wheels , attempting a break in and threatening your own family to the point your father in law was armed . You think ? You compared it to Ruggs driving 156 on a residential 2 way street after 17 shots . Freakin ridiculous river . You’re more intelligent then that argument sounds . where’s my penny fantasy ? Does Penney have a higher career rush average by nearby a yard than Carson ? Did he set 2 NFL records his last 3 starts ? More yards in his last 2 games than Beast ever ran for a single time . Did he take less to come back exactly as I predicted ? Where’s my bullsh@t? I quote statistics you ignore for your Debbie downer arguments . It’s a short sample in a way but not . 6.1 is a career average . He’s always been able to beat Carson by 10 yards in 100 yard dash .


As for Mayfield I said I like him . Why is that a fantasy ? He’s had one exact Russ Wilson stat year 26-8 second round of the playoffs while Russ was burning up dinner at the same time . It’s intriguing although I’ve said he’s not my first choice and I’m fine with Locke or Geno .

I’ve mentioned a few times I’ve done live sports radio , also play by play and color on radio . I’m an expressive colorful dude with a huge vocabulary and I’m not changing for you . You come across like a grumpy housewife that won’t leave anything I say alone . Check yourself