Can we win another SB with RW

[Aseahawkfan]

Man, talk about cherry picking! What's next, that Geno Smith is the most accurate QB in Seahawk's history because he has the highest completion percentage of any Seahawk QB?

You're right, Penny has 5.6 YPC which is very, very good, but he only has 280 attempts. Compare that to Shaun Alexander's 9429 carries.

Alexander is our only league MVP winner from what I recall. Penney couldn't carry Shaun Alexander's jockstrap with 4 years and 280 carries.

[Hawktawk]

Man, talk about cherry picking! What's next, that Geno Smith is the most accurate QB in Seahawk's history because he has the highest completion percentage of any Seahawk QB?

You're right, Penny has 5.6 YPC which is very, very good, but he only has 280 attempts. Compare that to Shaun Alexander's 9429 carries.

Alexander is our only league MVP winner from what I recall. Penney couldn't carry Shaun Alexander's jockstrap with 4 years and 280 carries.

SA was never hurt at all until later in his career . There’s a few reasons . For one he ran behind a line with a HOF left side and 3 other guys who were good enough he actually had a higher ypc to the right in 2005, 2 of the most dominant men ever to play their positions . For another he was in a pass to run offense with hass who moved the chains consistently with the WCO and so SA rarely faced a stacked box . For another he was the most protective of his body of any bell cow back and he was indeed that . But he would run out of bounds to avoid a hit and even get under the carpet like a wideout to avoid a big shot . I remember in a 17 point collapse to Baltimore where they were granted 4 second half timeouts SA went down in the hole on a 3rd and short that would have iced the game because mr Ray Lewis was steaming in . Lastly SA was lucky like any back who plays a long time without injury . Definitely lucky as was Hass having that line . The weirdest thing about SA was in the red zone he became a different player explaining the 29 TDs . Honestly if I had a previous Seahawks back to compare Penney’s style to it is SA. Big and fast , slippery but staying north and south with shifty moves rather than dramatic cuts . Patient , set up their blocks which was easier for SA. Penney appears faster , stronger and more physical though . And SA didn’t block either .

Last of all RD I’m not retarded ok? And I’m done with the Geno jabs . The guy played well , should have had another start at least . Other than that there’s no comparison . You haters have had a beef with the pick from day one . He’s healthy and set an NFL record in his 6 th start . We know the history . Penney was injured !!!!! We know ! It’s a ridiculous comparison with him and SA. Man got hurt . It’s a miraculous story he came back like this . That was then and this is now . We have a 4 year vet with low mileage and he’s got off the chart skills . Be blind haters . Mock my position . We will see .

[RiverDog]

Aw, lighten up, my friend!

You have a few biases. So do I, but I do a little better job of hiding them.

[Hawktawk]

Aw, lighten up, my friend!

You have a few biases. So do I, but I do a little better job of hiding them.

It’s hard to pick up what someone’s putting down philosophically in cyberspace . Frustrating when you try and make a point and someone starts arguing a point you weren’t even trying to make .

I watch analytically . I write colorfully, descriptively . It doesn’t mean I make my observations in fan boy mode with my head up my….. it’s recency bias which is the NFL in a nutshell. There’s not another back with the juice Penney showed the last 6 weeks in the NFL. It’s a 3rd of a season . I get it. His career is 1 season worth of carries at well over 5 ypc with an NFL record in his 6th start . You have to take the chance on that guy . I watched the games . Some twice . It changed everything on the offense .

[RiverDog]

Aw, lighten up, my friend!

You have a few biases. So do I, but I do a little better job of hiding them.

It’s hard to pick up what someone’s putting down philosophically in cyberspace . Frustrating when you try and make a point and someone starts arguing a point you weren’t even trying to make.

I watch analytically . I write colorfully, descriptively . It doesn’t mean I make my observations in fan boy mode with my head up my….. it’s recency bias which is the NFL in a nutshell. There’s not another back with the juice Penney showed the last 6 weeks in the NFL. It’s a 3rd of a season . I get it. His career is 1 season worth of carries at well over 5 ypc with an NFL record in his 6th start . You have to take the chance on that guy . I watched the games . Some twice . It changed everything on the offense .

I understand. Having to rely exclusively on text without the non verbal ques make it difficult to determine intent. It's just that a player or coach hits a sweet spot with you then you get onto a drum beat with them and just keep on hammering it, whether it's Geno, Penny, Mike Vrabel, or Joe Burrow, so I couldn't resist giving you some grief. You have my sincere apology.

[tarlhawk]

Rashaad Penny is key to success and making life easier for RW going forward in 2022. As our team's philosophy of "finishing" strong ...Penny mirrors that with his performance. Injuries...especially serious injuries experienced for maybe the first time lend themselves to a long physical recovery just to get back on the field...but the mental challenge and toughness upon "getting back" can take an equal toll. Whatever "clicked" for Penny as well as Russel's own injury ...restored the confidence needed to reclaim gifted talents. Pete loves both of these men for one thing he cherishes...low turnovers. RW when healthy seldom throws interceptions. Penny didn't carry a "full load" this year or in the 3 years prior to his "arrival"...but no fumbles at all this year and only one fumble in all 4 years of his limited play is seldom mentioned but you can believe our coach is aware of it.

[Aseahawkfan]

Rashaad Penny is key to success and making life easier for RW going forward in 2022. As our team's philosophy of "finishing" strong ...Penny mirrors that with his performance. Injuries...especially serious injuries experienced for maybe the first time lend themselves to a long physical recovery just to get back on the field...but the mental challenge and toughness upon "getting back" can take an equal toll. Whatever "clicked" for Penny as well as Russel's own injury ...restored the confidence needed to reclaim gifted talents. Pete loves both of these men for one thing he cherishes...low turnovers. RW when healthy seldom throws interceptions. Penny didn't carry a "full load" this year or in the 3 years prior to his "arrival"...but no fumbles at all this year and only one fumble in all 4 years of his limited play is seldom mentioned but you can believe our coach is aware of it.

Penny has to re-sign and last a season for him to have an impact on the team leading to a SB.

[tarlhawk]

Penny has to re-sign and last a season for him to have an impact on the team leading to a SB.

You state the obvious but I agree.

[Hawktawk]

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I understand. Having to rely exclusively on text without the non verbal ques make it difficult to determine intent. It's just that a player or coach hits a sweet spot with you then you get onto a drum beat with them and just keep on hammering it, whether it's Geno, Penny, Mike Vrabel, or Joe Burrow, so I couldn't resist giving you some grief. You have my sincere apology.

Nothing to apologize for brother. If we all agreed about everything why have a forum ? In cyberspace you dont see the other side. When Geno freakin Smith came in the Rams game I took a shot of rum with the kid and said so much for this game . Zero faith. Then he goes 98, 2 scoring drives. Yeah RD that's all it took. He had the ball with a chance to win till lock fell down. He proved to be extremely accurate with a very powerful arm, decent mobility and far better at protecting the ball than his earlier days. He completed balls to ten receivers vs Pittsburgh including an incredible Aaron Rodgers style back and forth and back again slide in the pocket to Penney Hart for his only reception of the game. Against Jax he completed his first 15 or something and the most amazing stat is he completed 10 passes to Lockette IN THE FIRST HALF. Many were tightly contested. His problem was sacks. 13 in 3 starts and it cost us the Pittsburgh game. Now hes screwed himself with this DUI when I thought he was grown up

Penney? I was screaming for him to get carries his rookie year but he couldn't get around Carson. I saw the potential his second year before the injury. But watching him this year getting an unimpressive carry here and there and the hamstring tightness etc. I felt he had lost the elite wheels. Then SF when when he flashed the speed in a couple of key situations and I said right here on this forum" watch out for this guy. "I always loved him RD and hes back to who he was but with experience. Where was I wrong?
Vrabel's a great freakin coach. Id trade him for Carroll right now. He got the 1 seed with Tannehill and no Dereck Henry.
Burrows is a really cool customer and great player. People say hes the next Brady but the swag is more like Brady 10 year vet or maybe even Joe Namath with the confidence. My word of caution is hes almost getting bigger than the team. Maybe hes the offensive version of Sherman in 2013 deflecting the attention and pressure away from his teammates. But the dude has swag. I called him vs KC....Im calling him next Sunday too.

[mykc14]

Sadly it looks like we will not find out if we can win another one with Russ. I hate to see him go and am glad for him that he gets to play in a QB friendly offense. I am sure he will have all of the input he wanted here at Denver as well. It was never smart for us to pay for a Frearri at QB with an offensive philosophy that only needs a Corrolla at the position.

[RiverDog]

Sadly it looks like we will not find out if we can win another one with Russ. I hate to see him go and am glad for him that he gets to play in a QB friendly offense. I am sure he will have all of the input he wanted here at Denver as well. It was never smart for us to pay for a Frearri at QB with an offensive philosophy that only needs a Corrolla at the position.

I'm neither sad nor overjoyed about the news. Russell hadn't been getting the job done lately, but he was still a very good quarterback that had the potential to get us back to the SB. I'm more matter of fact about the news. At least it will make this season's draft more interesting.

[obiken]

I'm neither sad nor overjoyed about the news. Russell hadn't been getting the job done lately, but he was still a very good quarterback that had the potential to get us back to the SB. I'm more matter of fact about the news. At least it will make this season's draft more interesting.

Wow, I have no words for that post!

[Aseahawkfan]

Wow, I have no words for that post!

We're back in the gutter of non-contention indefinitely now. Hoping we find some great QB like Russell Wilson's grow on trees every draft is someone smoking a crack pipe like Pete and John must be doing making this trade.