Championship weekend

[EmeraldBullet]

Some good games. I was kinda hoping 9ers would beat rams tho (even though I obviously hate both teams).

LOL RD "This isnt cleveland"

Go bengals!

[Aseahawkfan]

Now we know who we are against. Screw the Rams! I hope they lose.

[trents]

I don't have any emotional investment in either team going to t he SB this year. But I would say I hope the RAMS win because Stafford is one of the good guys in the league. And he was never a complainer when stuck with a terrible team for a decade, never demanding a trade to a potential champion like so many divas in the NFL. He deserves success.

[NorthHawk]

Has there been a better year for NFL playoffs?
No bad games or blowouts and lots of suspense.
As a whole I think it’s been the most enjoyable playoffs I can remember.
Let’s hope the SB is as good.

[Stream Hawk]

I did a flip this (nfc) playoff season. And now I am cool with Rams winning it all. Kupp is too close to home, also helped me kinda slay at fantasy football all year;) I just have to stick west coast. Rams will be toast starting next year and cool story Cinci has several more in em…
Also both coaches from same small tree. As were many other recent finalists with a prayer. Seems like a pattern to emulate.

[NorthHawk]

I’m going for the Bengals because the Rams owner is such a dick. How he treated the
St. Louis fan base brought me back to the Behring experience so I feel for them. And now
mortgaging the future to win today, and doing it at home, I hope it blows up in his face.

[TriCitySam]

Yeah, I gotta root for Kupp, and Staffords been a good QB wasted in Detroit.

[Hawktawk]

I will never support the Rams under any circumstances . GO BENGALS . If my fellow Hawks fans want to be looking up at the Rams the next 5 years or so by all means root for them to win and achieve 100% success on the season in their 2nd Super Bowl in 3 years .they already own Seattle. The best thing for Seattle is a Bengals blowout. Stafford will throw them the ball , you just gotta catch it unlike SF. I hope they get shut out .

[c_hawkbob]

I will never support the Rams under any circumstances . GO BENGALS . If my fellow Hawks fans want to be looking up at the Rams the next 5 years or so by all means root for them to win and achieve 100% success on the season in their 2nd Super Bowl in 3 years .they already own Seattle. The best thing for Seattle is a Bengals blowout. Stafford will throw them the ball , you just gotta catch it unlike SF. I hope they get shut out .

Yeah I'd like to see the Lambs get a soul crushing defeat myself, I just don't think the Bungles are up to it.

[RiverDog]

The Rams got screwed out of a TD in the first half when the refs missed a blatantly obvious roughing the passer penalty on an interception thrown by Stafford from the Niners 3 yard line. That's one occasion where I wish the booth would buzz the officials and tell them that they missed one as it's obvious that none of them were looking in that direction when the hit occurred, and it had a monumental impact on the outcome of the game.

Once again, Jimmy G. played poorly, connecting on just 16 of 30 passes and made a fatal mistake by doing his best Rex Grossman imitation and blindly heaving the ball up for grabs on a 3rd and 13. I have several Niners friends of mine that still swear by him that won't accept my frequent criticisms of him. That's likely the last time we'll see Garoppolo in a Niners uniform.

Cooper Kupp sure proved his worth, catching 11 passes for 142 yards and the Rams only two TD's. Clutch receiver, best in the game IMO.

Mahomes looked horrible, seems to suffer from the same disease that Russell does occasionally, loses his sense of when a play needs to be aborted and instead thinks he can save everything.

I'll be rooting for the Bengals, but I, too, don't feel that they have the horses to pull it off.

[Hawktawk]

The Rams benefitted from multiple calls and non calls such as delays of game etc . They pick up
A defenseless receiver flag on Deebow then give one to Beckham . They missed the hit on Stafford but a lot of the stuff they just didn’t flag it . At least the refs in the first game were even . Stafford is the better QB but made enough mistakes to lose if the 9srs could catch . Rams have more skill players . But let’s face it . If the 9ers had an above average QB they might have won handily playing Pete ball.
I think the Bengals have a great chance .they are far better then the 9ers . I see their defense as being the main reason Mahomes looked so bad in the second half . 82 yards and 3 Points . Obviously the boneheaded play at the half was on Mahomes but Cincy got Hill on the ground for no gain which is hard to do . If they did that to Mahomes imagine gaffe prone Stafford . Burrows is every bit the gunslinger , more elusive . As many weapons including jamaar Chase . The line is bad but it has not mattered . If the game is officiated fairly the Bengals can win.

[RiverDog]

The Rams benefitted from multiple calls and non calls such as delays of game etc . They pick up
A defenseless receiver flag on Deebow then give one to Beckham . They missed the hit on Stafford but a lot of the stuff they just didn’t flag it . At least the refs in the first game were even . Stafford is the better QB but made enough mistakes to lose if the 9srs could catch . Rams have more skill players . But let’s face it . If the 9ers had an above average QB they might have won handily playing Pete ball.
I think the Bengals have a great chance .they are far better then the 9ers . I see their defense as being the main reason Mahomes looked so bad in the second half . 82 yards and 3 Points . Obviously the boneheaded play at the half was on Mahomes but Cincy got Hill on the ground for no gain which is hard to do . If they did that to Mahomes imagine gaffe prone Stafford . Burrows is every bit the gunslinger , more elusive . As many weapons including jamaar Chase . The line is bad but it has not mattered . If the game is officiated fairly the Bengals can win.

The flag they picked up on the hit on Deebow was the absolute right thing to do. I wish they'd pick more of those up. Delays of game are frequently missed and is a weakness that should be easy to correct as they could have a booth ref keeping an eye on the play clock. Had they not missed the roughing the passer penalty on Stafford, I'd say it was a pretty well called game.

I'm not sure that I agree that the Niners would have "won handily" with a good QB, but I agree with you that quarterbacking was the difference in this game.

It wasn't just in the 2nd half that Mahomes looked bad. That last series of the first half he was just horrible. That dump off pass after his first look wasn't there was incredibly stupid. There's no way a pass behind the LOS is going to succeed with the defense as spread out and with such little territory to defend. He should have thrown it away and take the 3 points, which ended up being critical. Mahomes poor play was the deciding factor IMO.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

I live down in LSU country, and I watched Joe Burrow over his two seasons at LSU. As much as I can’t stand LSU and had probably my worst spectating experience because of their fans, I can’t deny Burrow is the genuine article. It was clear then as it is now that he’s got “it”; on the field and off the field. He’s very intelligent, knows how to lead by example, and puts in the work. And the Bengals are smart enough to realize what they have and will continue to build around him. The Rams have a ton of talent. Stafford is no slouch and with the uncoverable Kupp, they’ll be very hard to corral, but I won’t count out a Joe Burrow led Bengals team as well as a defense that just shut down the KC offense for the decisive second half. I think we’re in for a great super bowl.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

And he knows how to give teammates their due. The first thing he said to the reporter was props to the defense. He was fully aware that they turned the game.

[Hawktawk]

The flag they picked up on the hit on Deebow was the absolute right thing to do. I wish they'd pick more of those up. Delays of game are frequently missed and is a weakness that should be easy to correct as they could have a booth ref keeping an eye on the play clock. Had they not missed the roughing the passer penalty on Stafford, I'd say it was a pretty well called game.

I'm not sure that I agree that the Niners would have "won handily" with a good QB, but I agree with you that quarterbacking was the difference in this game.

It wasn't just in the 2nd half that Mahomes looked bad. That last series of the first half he was just horrible. That dump off pass after his first look wasn't there was incredibly stupid. There's no way a pass behind the LOS is going to succeed with the defense as spread out and with such little territory to defend. He should have thrown it away and take the 3 points, which ended up being critical. Mahomes poor play was the deciding factor IMO.

Defenseless receiver is defenseless receiver . It has nothing to do with contact to the helmet only laying out a player who can’t defend themselves . I recall Kam getting a couple on identical plays. The flag hit the ground and got picked up as Deebow , the biggest offensive star was laying on the ground . I’m not saying I like all the new rules but he was clearly defenseless .

I agree completely on Mahomes . In the end the 3 points at the half were the game . And they never recovered . Mahomes was also calling for a timeout after the play when they had none. I couldn’t believe it . But they got Dd up big time in the second half . Some of the best back end coverage I’ve seen in a while . Mahomes was befuddled . My son said he folded , cracked . I was surprised . I had Cincy but I didn’t think they could shut Mahomes down after the first half . I figured it was over . Coach Taylor obviously won the halftime .

[RiverDog]

And he knows how to give teammates their due. The first thing he said to the reporter was props to the defense. He was fully aware that they turned the game.

Just once, I'd like to see a quarterback, in an on the field moment like that, refuse to talk with a reporter until they also had his linemen or defense standing next to him.

[RiverDog]

Defenseless receiver is defenseless receiver . It has nothing to do with contact to the helmet only laying out a player who can’t defend themselves . I recall Kam getting a couple on identical plays. The flag hit the ground and got picked up as Deebow , the biggest offensive star was laying on the ground . I’m not saying I like all the new rules but he was clearly defenseless .

He hit him with his shoulder and it was to the chest, not the head and neck area. It was the textbook example of how the league is wanting to teach defenses to play within the rules. Being defenseless doesn't mean that the defense can't touch them, which is essentially what you're saying. It looked violent, much line Kam Chancellor's hit on Vernon Davis, and the ref instinctively threw the flag, but it was completely and unquestionably legal.

I agree completely on Mahomes . In the end the 3 points at the half were the game . And they never recovered . Mahomes was also calling for a timeout after the play when they had none. I couldn’t believe it . But they got Dd up big time in the second half . Some of the best back end coverage I’ve seen in a while . Mahomes was befuddled . My son said he folded , cracked . I was surprised . I had Cincy but I didn’t think they could shut Mahomes down after the first half . I figured it was over . Coach Taylor obviously won the halftime .

Yeah, I can somewhat understand a receiver or lineman losing track of the game situation and not realizing that they were without a timeout, but not the QB for crying out loud. No excuse whatsoever.

[NorthHawk]

He hit him with his shoulder and it was to the chest, not the head and neck area. It was the textbook example of how the league is wanting to teach defenses to play within the rules. Being defenseless doesn't mean that the defense can't touch them, which is essentially what you're saying. It looked violent, much line Kam Chancellor's hit on Vernon Davis, and the ref instinctively threw the flag, but it was completely and unquestionably legal.

If they make that hit illegal they might as well turn the league into Flag Football.

[RiverDog]

He hit him with his shoulder and it was to the chest, not the head and neck area. It was the textbook example of how the league is wanting to teach defenses to play within the rules. Being defenseless doesn't mean that the defense can't touch them, which is essentially what you're saying. It looked violent, much line Kam Chancellor's hit on Vernon Davis, and the ref instinctively threw the flag, but it was completely and unquestionably legal.

If they make that hit illegal they might as well turn the league into Flag Football.

Precisely. You're on an island, Hawktalk. You're letting your bias affect your otherwise good football sense.

I wonder whose decision it was to pick up the flag, if it was the ref that threw it or another that had a better angle. I'm leaning towards an automatic booth review of hits like those ala college football as they're so bang-bang and look so brutal in real time.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

Burrow ignored the reporter until everyone of his teammates that wanted to hug/fist bump got it in.

[Hawktawk]

He hit him with his shoulder and it was to the chest, not the head and neck area. It was the textbook example of how the league is wanting to teach defenses to play within the rules. Being defenseless doesn't mean that the defense can't touch them, which is essentially what you're saying. It looked violent.

Precisely. You're on an island, Hawktalk. You're letting your bias affect your otherwise good football sense.

I wonder whose decision it was to pick up the flag, if it was the ref that threw it or another that had a better angle. I'm leaning towards an automatic booth review of hits like those ala college football as they're so bang-bang and look so brutal in real time.

It was violent , extremely so . I’ve seen that flag lots of times and never saw it picked up , especially with one of the better players in the league still flopping around on the ground in front of them . As I’ve said I don’t necessarily agree with some of the rules myself but that’s a call that gets made more often than not .

It’s not why they lost . That was on Jimmy G. Just not good enough . Not protected well either. I don’t fault him as much for the late pick . It’s 3rd and 13 4 down territory deep in your own end . If you take the sack It’s going to be 4th and 20 at least . He somehow flipped it out and got it to the running back who popped it up . Would have been tough to catch and I doubt the guy expected it but it’s all he could do . Probably will get a chance for a job somewhere but he’s a b grade Qb.

[Hawktawk]

I live down in LSU country, and I watched Joe Burrow over his two seasons at LSU. As much as I can’t stand LSU and had probably my worst spectating experience because of their fans, I can’t deny Burrow is the genuine article. It was clear then as it is now that he’s got “it”; on the field and off the field. He’s very intelligent, knows how to lead by example, and puts in the work. And the Bengals are smart enough to realize what they have and will continue to build around him. The Rams have a ton of talent. Stafford is no slouch and with the uncoverable Kupp, they’ll be very hard to corral, but I won’t count out a Joe Burrow led Bengals team as well as a defense that just shut down the KC offense for the decisive second half. I think we’re in for a great super bowl.

Got “it” yes that’s what I see. A swashbuckling winner his entire life , total swag , already got a natty and earned it .he’s genuine . Fearless that I can see. He’s got a shot at being the best QB in the conference if not the league pretty soon .

[RiverDog]

Precisely. You're on an island, Hawktalk. You're letting your bias affect your otherwise good football sense.

I wonder whose decision it was to pick up the flag, if it was the ref that threw it or another that had a better angle. I'm leaning towards an automatic booth review of hits like those ala college football as they're so bang-bang and look so brutal in real time.

It was violent , extremely so . I’ve seen that flag lots of times and never saw it picked up , especially with one of the better players in the league still flopping around on the ground in front of them . As I’ve said I don’t necessarily agree with some of the rules myself but that’s a call that gets made more often than not.

The point is that it was a completely legal, textbook tackle, and the refs made the absolute correct decision to pick it up. If it gets flagged a lot and not picked up, then that's on the refs in those games. Two wrongs don't make a right.

It’s not why they lost . That was on Jimmy G. Just not good enough . Not protected well either. I don’t fault him as much for the late pick . It’s 3rd and 13 4 down territory deep in your own end . If you take the sack It’s going to be 4th and 20 at least . He somehow flipped it out and got it to the running back who popped it up . Would have been tough to catch and I doubt the guy expected it but it’s all he could do . Probably will get a chance for a job somewhere but he’s a b grade Qb.

I saw a comment made by a poster in another forum that noted that in the 4th quarter of yesterday's game, Garoppolo was 3-9 for 30 yards with an interception, and that in 6 playoff starts, he has a 28.0 passer rating in the 4th, ranking last among 69 QBs w/ 30+ 4th quarter passes in the playoffs since 1991.

What the Niners do about Garoppolo in the offseason will be interesting. He is still under contract for one more season, but his no trade clause expired on Jan. 1st, so he doesn't have a lot of leverage. His last year of his contract is scheduled to pay him $25M, so the Niners would have to eat a big chunk of that if they were to trade him, and even then, I doubt that they get very much. Trey Lance was clearly not ready for prime time, so the Niners could be in for a long year next season unless Lance shows some significant improvement in Year 2.

[Hawk Sista]

River Dog said… Hey, Sis. As always, nice to see you poking your head in here. BTW, not that it makes a great deal of difference, but the Niners have won the last 6 out of the last 6, which includes two games this season.

Yes, I know. You put an asterisk next to their most recent loss to the Niners, which is what both NH and I were responding to by pointing out that even if there were to be an asterisk, 5 of 6 is certainly still impressive. Now it’s the last 6 of 7 . & hello & happy new year to you and yours; all is well in California. 70’s this weekend.

[RiverDog]

I don't pay too much attention to the TV commentators during the game, especially Tony Romo as there's something about his voice that I don't like, so I missed this one completely. I was telling my wife why the Bengals were kicking the FG on 3rd down, so if there was a bad snap, they could just down the ball and attempt it again on 4th down. Did anyone catch what Romo said?

After marching the ball deep into Kansas City territory, the Bengals chose to kick the field goal on third down.

Romo, who was calling the game for CBS, went viral for a joke that he made before the field goal. Romo noted the benefit of attempting a field goal prior to fourth down. “I’ve seen guys in the playoffs drop a snap before in a big situation,” he said.

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/t ... mvPuucoSVA

Gawd, how could I have missed that or forgotten about the infamous Romo-ooskie? Until now, I've never been too fond of Tony Romo, but I love a person that can be self-deprecating so I'll have to re-consider my opinion.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

I absolutely caught that, and my wife had no idea why I was laughing at what seemed like a common comment. Romo’s mishandling and Big Play Babs getting after it saved that game.

[Hawktawk]

I actually liked Romo in the beginning more . The more I hear him the more he annoys me. Reminds viewers and co broadcaster how right he is about everything more all the time . Then there was the creepy joke about Brady trading a date with Giselle for his record breaking football that had wound up with a fan . Saying it was bad enough then he started imitating Brady’s voice saying “ sure you can have a date !”truly bizarre . He’s smart and observant , breaks down plays well but his career development in the booth has plateaued with this fan .

Funny about the fumbled snap though . Frankly the Bengals handed it off a few more times than I would have before the kick . People forget how great a play Babs made there. Borderline incredible .

[RiverDog]

I actually liked Romo in the beginning more . The more I hear him the more he annoys me. Reminds viewers and co broadcaster how right he is about everything more all the time . Then there was the creepy joke about Brady trading a date with Giselle for his record breaking football that had wound up with a fan . Saying it was bad enough then he started imitating Brady’s voice saying “ sure you can have a date !”truly bizarre . He’s smart and observant , breaks down plays well but his career development in the booth has plateaued with this fan .

Funny about the fumbled snap though . Frankly the Bengals handed it off a few more times than I would have before the kick . People forget how great a play Babs made there. Borderline incredible .

I just don't pay that much attention to the color commentary. Over the last several decades, I've heard tons of complaints about nearly every prominent broadcaster, from Howard Cosell to Chris Collingsworth, but I've gotten to the point to where I tune them out. I have a friend that can't stand Al Michaels because he "issues a prediction after it happens", like 'they're going to make the first down' when it had already occurred. Seems like a petty thing to me to be concerned about, but it irritates the hell out of him.

In any event, it was a pretty funny comment that I wish I would have picked up on in real time.

[Hawktawk]

I like Micheals . I know the pair annoys the hell out of people but one half of Aikman Buck breaks down plays as well as anyone and he will be honest and criticize anyone from a player to a coach to a ref . I can’t stand buck . They did call our Championship .

[RiverDog]

I like Micheals . I know the pair annoys the hell out of people but one half of Aikman Buck breaks down plays as well as anyone and he will be honest and criticize anyone from a player to a coach to a ref . I can’t stand buck . They did call our Championship .

See, and I find nothing wrong with Buck-Aikman. Just think of some of the truly awful color men, like Dennis Miller, and it will make you reconsider your opinion on Buck/Aikman.

NBC is televising the Super Bowl this year, and I'm wondering if it's going to be Al Michael's retirement party. Mike Tirico has filled in for him this season on SNF from time to time and it's been rumored that he's hanging it up.

[Hawktawk]

One of the great voices ever “ do you believe in miracles ! Yes! I’m not saying I
Hate Aikman Buck as a team . I get tired of Buck fawning all over Aikman . I thought they did a great job at our super bowl win . It’s Rumored Aikman may sign a blockbuster deal to move to a new network or perhaps work for multiple networks .

[Hawk Sista]

I cannot stand Tony Romo’s voice and constant yapping. While I agree he does a nice job of explaining the plays after the fact, I HATE his saying… this is going to be a screen (or whatever) as the O lines up. Just STFU for a minute, Tony. It’s ok to be quiet.

[RiverDog]

I cannot stand Tony Romo’s voice and constant yapping. While I agree he does a nice job of explaining the plays after the fact, I HATE his saying… this is going to be a screen (or whatever) as the O lines up. Just STFU for a minute, Tony. It’s ok to be quiet.

Agreed about Romo's voice, it's the one thing about him that I've never liked. But as I've mentioned, I tend to screen out a lot of that stuff that the color guys are saying, so his 'constant yapping' doesn't bother me as much as it does you.

And I agree with Hawktalk about Joe Buck constantly blowing smoke up Aikman's hind end by introducing him as "The Hall of Famer Troy Aikman". None of the other commentators have ever gotten such constant recognition for their gold jackets, and there's been plenty of them in the booths over the years.

[Hawktawk]

I cannot stand Tony Romo’s voice and constant yapping. While I agree he does a nice job of explaining the plays after the fact, I HATE his saying… this is going to be a screen (or whatever) as the O lines up. Just STFU for a minute, Tony. It’s ok to be quiet.

Yeah this here^^^^^ We aren't Stevie wonder, we can see the game. Besides I call the plays before Romo sometimes and my family tells me to STFU too

[RiverDog]

I cannot stand Tony Romo’s voice and constant yapping. While I agree he does a nice job of explaining the plays after the fact, I HATE his saying… this is going to be a screen (or whatever) as the O lines up. Just STFU for a minute, Tony. It’s ok to be quiet.

Yeah this here^^^^^ We aren't Stevie wonder, we can see the game. Besides I call the plays before Romo sometimes and my family tells me to STFU too

That's funny!

My wife and I will be watching a game and I'll scream something like "Where's the flag?!" and she'll essentially tell me to STFU, except that since she hates the 'F'; word and every time it pops out of my mouth she chastises me for it, she'll say it with her eyes. Problem is that it doesn't stop me, so she's learned to live with it. We all have to make our sacrifices, and that's one that she has to make as I couldn't change my behavior If I wanted to.

[Hawktawk]

I watch the games every week at our condo on #11 with my 50 year old wife and 26 year old youngest son. Occasionally other friends and family .

But it’s a loud affair , lots of arguing between my son who I call mini me on steroids I’ve actually done color commentary and play by play on small town radio and also sat in with David Heaverlo on his sports talk show as a football analyst many times . Sunday my son had volunteered to cook dinner and couldn’t see the TV so I was calling play by play of 9ers Rams for him from the living room for about ten minutes Fun . Win or lose its family time .

[RiverDog]

I watch the games every week at our condo on #11 with my 50 year old wife and 26 year old youngest son. Occasionally other friends and family .

But it’s a loud affair , lots of arguing between my son who I call mini me on steroids I’ve actually done color commentary and play by play on small town radio and also sat in with David Heaverlo on his sports talk show as a football analyst many times . Sunday my son had volunteered to cook dinner and couldn’t see the TV so I was calling play by play of 9ers Rams for him from the living room for about ten minutes Fun . Win or lose its family time .

Cool! I remember Dave Heaverlo, a pitcher for the A's that hails from Ephrata if memory serves.

[Hawktawk]

Yeah the Tuna they call him. I met David in the early 80s when he was working at KULE in Ephrata. I had been talking sports with the station owner at a chamber function and he said I had great knowledge and a radio voice and he wanted me to meet his sport’s talk guy . I’d not been following the MLB and didn’t know who he was . I sat in with Dave dozens of times over the next 4 decades . Funny man with lots of friends . Very impressive man cave . Dave gave me an open invitation to make radio broadcast my career at both his stops including KDRM in Moses . I was on air the Friday before 48 and predicted Hawks 44-22 over Denver. Of all the participants I won the contest as I was the only one in the listening area that had Seattle over 40. I sat in on the Monday show after the win which was the cherry on top. Unfortunately I asked to do the show after 49 before it happened and that radio station was the last place I wanted to be . Good times thought. It was a bipolar decision to turn down radio in hindsight . Everyone though I was pretty good . Tuna and I are friends to this day .

[RiverDog]

Yeah the Tuna they call him. I met David in the early 80s when he was working at KULE in Ephrata. I had been talking sports with the station owner at a chamber function and he said I had great knowledge and a radio voice and he wanted me to meet his sport’s talk guy . I’d not been following the MLB and didn’t know who he was . I sat in with Dave dozens of times over the next 4 decades . Funny man with lots of friends . Very impressive man cave . Dave gave me an open invitation to make radio broadcast my career at both his stops including KDRM in Moses . I was on air the Friday before 48 and predicted Hawks 44-22 over Denver. Of all the participants I won the contest as I was the only one in the listening area that had Seattle over 40. I sat in on the Monday show after the win which was the cherry on top. Unfortunately I asked to do the show after 49 before it happened and that radio station was the last place I wanted to be . Good times thought. It was a bipolar decision to turn down radio in hindsight . Everyone though I was pretty good . Tuna and I are friends to this day .

Nice! Didn't KDRM used to be KSEM? I remember when KSEM changed its call letters. I read in the letter to the editor response in the newspaper that the call letters for "KSEM" stood for Soap (Lake), Ephrata, and Moses (Lake).

I might have mentioned it to you before, but I lived in Moses Lake from 1978-1989. I was a supervisor at the Carnation Company french fry plant on Wheeler Road, now owned by Simplot. First job I had after graduating from college. Lots of memories, and you dusted off a few cob webs from some of them.