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Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby RiverDog » Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:41 pm

Super Bowl Saturday? Having the big game one day earlier is apparently what over 80,000 fans want. High school student Frank Ruggeri, 18, of Palm Bay, Fla. started an online petition to move Super Bowl Sunday to Super Bowl Saturday, and it has quickly gained tens of thousands of signatures.

While the Super Bowl is traditionally on a Sunday, moving it would mean less have to worry about heading to work the next day. The Monday after the game is a day in which some people traditionally miss work and Ruggeri argued moving it could prevent this.

"It's really, really important to me because 17.2 million people miss work," Ruggeri said during a TV appearance. "That's 44 billion dollars less of productivity."

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has said the television audience is larger on Sunday. But Ruggeri challenged Goodell's reasoning, saying, "Commissioner Goodell, there would be more viewership. The people will be watching. Bigger party. And I think the economic impact would be easier to have it on a Saturday."

Sports cater to what will make the league the most money, so unless their is clear evidence Saturday would bring in more cash, it is unlikely the game ever moves days.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/peti ... ignatures/

Since I'm retired, every day is a Saturday, so personally, I don't care if they move it or not. But I do think that there is an argument for moving it as the Monday following the Super Bowl is the most commonly used day for calling in sick. Some have even discussed making this Monday a national holiday, National Hangover Day or something.

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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby Hawktawk » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:40 pm

Absolutely . There’s no question in my mind it would be bigger on Saturday . Everyone would be benefit including employers who would not have a skeleton crew after everyone calls in . Count me in
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby RiverDog » Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:34 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Absolutely . There’s no question in my mind it would be bigger on Saturday . Everyone would be benefit including employers who would not have a skeleton crew after everyone calls in . Count me in


I'm with you, but it wouldn't have made a difference where I worked as we were a 24/7 operation. However, I never had to miss a Super Bowl due to work, or for any other reason as far as that goes.

I'm not sure how moving it to Saturday would affect worldwide viewing, but I agree with you that it would be a bigger event here in the western hemisphere.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:54 pm

If the NFL is serious about having a team or two in Europe then they should consider moving it to
Saturday. Since they are seven or so hours ahead, watching the game live isn’t a realistic option
for most which means the audience won’t grow as fast. As well, if they do put a franchise there and the
get to the SB,they won’t be able to maximize ad revenue as most won’t watch if it goes until two am.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:00 am

NorthHawk wrote:If the NFL is serious about having a team or two in Europe then they should consider moving it to Saturday. Since they are seven or so hours ahead, watching the game live isn’t a realistic option for most which means the audience won’t grow as fast. As well, if they do put a franchise there and the get to the SB,they won’t be able to maximize ad revenue as most won’t watch if it goes until two am.


Currently, with a Sunday 3:30pm PST start, it's 8:30am Monday morning in Tokyo. Moving it to Saturday makes the game a little more watchable for them.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby curmudgeon » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:19 am

The Monday after the Super Bowl should be a holiday….
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby Hawktawk » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:37 am

curmudgeon wrote:The Monday after the Super Bowl should be a holiday….

This right here^^^^^^^^^
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:57 am

Currently, with a Sunday 3:30pm PST start, it's 8:30am Monday morning in Tokyo. Moving it to Saturday makes the game a little more watchable for them.


I'm talking more about Europe which is apparently on the radar for expansion at some point.
Asia to my knowledge isn't being considered, but yah it adds to the potential audience.
Therefore it would mean a 10:30pm or thereabouts depending on where in Europe start on Saturday night instead of Sunday night.
It just makes a wider audience more available.
I'm all for it.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:15 am

curmudgeon wrote:The Monday after the Super Bowl should be a holiday….


National Hangover Day? Sorry, but we have too damn many holidays to begin with.

Move it back to Saturday and give everyone a full 24 hours to sober up.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:21 am

Currently, with a Sunday 3:30pm PST start, it's 8:30am Monday morning in Tokyo. Moving it to Saturday makes the game a little more watchable for them.


NorthHawk wrote:I'm talking more about Europe which is apparently on the radar for expansion at some point.
Asia to my knowledge isn't being considered, but yah it adds to the potential audience.
Therefore it would mean a 10:30pm or thereabouts depending on where in Europe start on Saturday night instead of Sunday night.
It just makes a wider audience more available.
I'm all for it.


Asia IS being considered, if not for expansion, for regular season games:

NFL announces international market partnerships: Rams in China, Buccaneers in Germany, Dolphins in Spain. A total of 18 NFL teams will now utilize international markets.

The NFL has officially gone international. In the wake of increased commitment to games abroad, with all 32 teams set to play at least one international game over the next eight seasons, the league announced Wednesday an expansive Home Marketing Areas (HMA) initiative that grants teams specific international territories in which they can host events and further their franchise.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl- ... -in-spain/

Moving the Super Bowl to Saturday makes sense in a lot of different ways. I'm surprised that the proposal hasn't surfaced earlier.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:28 am

But they aren't even at the point of playing games there, yet so it's off on the distant horizon.
England is already a site for games and there is talk about Germany soon, too. Asia is simply a novelty at this point with hopes of getting there some day like they are doing in Europe.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby mykc14 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:14 am

Yes Superbowl Saturday!!!
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:46 pm

NorthHawk wrote:But they aren't even at the point of playing games there, yet so it's off on the distant horizon.
England is already a site for games and there is talk about Germany soon, too. Asia is simply a novelty at this point with hopes of getting there some day like they are doing in Europe.


It might have happened by now if not for the pandemic. From an interview with NFL VP Brian McCarthy published in April of 2019:

Giuffra: What are the other countries that are actively pursuing hosting an NFL game?

McCarthy: There’s been interest from a wide number of countries on just about all contents around the world. We’ve had success with Australia and played a preseason game there. We’ve had a number of preseason games internationally from Japan, Germany and elsewhere. So we’ll continue to see where that may go. We’ve been generally asked about China from time to time, so that’s something we’re looking at as well. So we’re looking to expand football, certainly here in the U.S., but we think there’s ample opportunity to spread American football and the values we see it bring to so many people in the United States.


https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/nfl-vp ... dxeear5y0f

IMO one of the justifications for the 17th game is to allow for teams to play a regular season game at a neutral site without having to sacrifice a home game. This would allow teams to play a game not only overseas but also in North American markets that don't have NFL franchises, like Salt Lake City, Birmingham, Montreal, Edmonton, Boise, Honolulu, etc. in addition to the current international series. They could insist that each of the 32 teams play one game at a neutral site.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:33 pm

The problem is the travel distance to Asia.
When the new SST type of planes come along, then it will be much more feasible but a team like Miami playing in Tokyo would be a nightmare.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:48 pm

NorthHawk wrote:The problem is the travel distance to Asia.
When the new SST type of planes come along, then it will be much more feasible but a team like Miami playing in Tokyo would be a nightmare.


For east coast teams, yes. But for the west coast, a flight to Tokyo is just as far as it is to London. There's no reason why they can't schedule the west coast games to be played in Asia while the east coast gets Europe.

Besides, when they schedule overseas games, they make sure that the following week is a bye, so travel time isn't that big of a deal. Fly over on a Tuesday or Wednesday then spend the rest of the week in the host city, fly back the day after the game and go into your bye week.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby Hawk Sista » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:39 am

Maybe I’ll look back at this in 20 years and acknowledge how short sighted I was being back in 2022… & yet I feel like the idea of expanding to Europe and Asia is born of sheer greed. From the west coast (LAX) to London is about a 10 hours 20 minute flight. It’s almost 12 hours to Tokyo and 13 to Beijing. That’s just too much imho. Those long flights take a lot out of a person.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:44 am

The time adjustment is also a factor.
It's about 09:45am here and it's about 01:45am in Tokyo tomorrow.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby c_hawkbob » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:47 am

By 2026, which is certainly a reasonable earliest expected time frame for NFL Asia games, Boom airlines will be reducing air time to 3 hours NY to London and 6 hours LA to Hong Kong.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:57 am

c_hawkbob wrote:By 2026, which is certainly a reasonable earliest expected time frame for NFL Asia games, Boom airlines will be reducing air time to 3 hours NY to London and 6 hours LA to Hong Kong.



The new SST. I had heard there was a company developing one but didn't know how far along they are.
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Re: Super Bowl Saturday?

Postby RiverDog » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:58 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:By 2026, which is certainly a reasonable earliest expected time frame for NFL Asia games, Boom airlines will be reducing air time to 3 hours NY to London and 6 hours LA to Hong Kong.


I don't think they're that far along. According to this article published Dec. 30, 2021, they won't be passenger ready until 2029 at the earliest:

United Airlines estimates that their supersonic airliners will be in service by the year 2029. Considering the amount of time it takes to produce aircraft, this is a very short period of time. As per usual, some setbacks are to be expected. But either way, the fact that supersonic flight is returning to civil aviation is very exciting. Hopefully this time it will stick around.

https://dailyaero.com/2021/12/30/is-sup ... ming-back/

Unless there's some sort of impetus as exists during times of war or the space race, these types of ventures that utilize new technology are notoriously behind schedule and above budget, so I wouldn't be surprised if we're well into the 2030's before supersonic passenger travel is viable.
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