Colin Cowherd on Pete Carroll

[RiverDog]

I don't always agree with the Cowpie, but he has some really good observations on Pete:

“I’ve been on this thing for 2-3 years now with the Seahawks. Even as they were winning 11-12 games, I was saying this feels like it’s a house of cards. They’ve got a very weird power dynamic within the organization. Pete has all the power now, and he’s certainly earned his fair share, but when the owner Paul Allen died, it was a power grab. Pete won, Pete’s a rock star, Pete’s going to go to Canton, he was a rockstar in college, but what’s happening to Seattle is what I’ve predicted. It’s starting to feel at the end in Seattle like it felt at the end of USC, where Pete dominated a bad conference, and then a couple of offensive coaches came in – Chip Kelly to Oregon and Jim Harbaugh to Stanford – and Pete did not update his schemes, they looked outdated, and he started getting clobbered by both coaches and Pete left.

When he had great talent at USC he won, and then when he had great talent for his first 3-4 years in the NFL he won, but Pete isn’t an elite scheme guy. He’s not going to take marginal talent like Bill Belichick has done historically and win games. Just like in the Pac-12, once really innovative offensive minds came into the NFC West, Pete was exposed. Here comes Kliff Kingsbury with the air raid, here comes Sean McVay, and here comes Kyle Shanahan, and where is Pete? Buried in fourth place with Russell Wilson with outdated offensive schemes, too much power, weird trades, lousy draft picks, and they have earned every bit of this fourth place.

Even when they were winning 12 games I said this was going to happen. You can’t keep whiffing on all these first-round picks. You can’t give away two firsts, a third, and a safety, for a safety. You can’t be this bad at corner, and this bad on the offensive line. Pete is 24/7 optimism, chewing gum non-stop, the rah-rah stuff, the player empowerment stuff, it wears thin and it creates an incredibly loose culture, and right now Seattle is a mostly weak roster, terrible in the secondary, can’t cover elite receivers, and got dominated by Colt McCoy at home… It’s too loose, they’ve got to be stronger at GM, Pete has to get out of the drafting, they’ve got to blow this thing up, move Bobby Wagner, potentially move Jamal Adams, and get draft picks, because Russell Wilson – don’t kid yourself, in the off-season coming off a 12-win season his side leaked 4 teams Russell wanted to play for. Russell is wildly aspiration and he’s not sitting around for fourth place. This thing is about to implode. I’m not into firing coaches but what you gotta do is go to Pete and say ‘Pete, you’re 70, this is ridiculous, you can’t be the defacto GM AND coach.' You gotta step back and be a walk-around coach, hire a great OC, get out of the drafting, and concentrate on updating your schemes defensively. You either have to blow this thing up or find a new coach.”

https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/conte ... -crumbled/

[trents]

I'm not a Cowherd fan but he nailed it this time.

I have no doubt Russ is kicking himself in private that he didn't force a move in the off season. He just looks like his head is not in the game anymore.

[TriCitySam]

Cowherd? Really? He's in the same bag as Florio: make up stories to make it interesting.

[obiken]

Cowherd? Really? He's in the same bag as Florio: make up stories to make it interesting.

I AM a Cowherd fan and he does NOT make stories up! He has been on this for more like 4 years and has been harping on the Decline of our defense for 5 years, and yeah, he is SPOT ON!

[RiverDog]

Cowherd? Really? He's in the same bag as Florio: make up stories to make it interesting.

Making up stories? You can disagree with him if you like, but he is not misrepresenting anything in that column. Pete's teams at USC did decline at the end of his tenure, it did coincide with the arrival of Harbaugh and Kelly, and it's completely fair to associate that decline with our current situation in the NFC West. Both of those situations are factual.

The opinions on the "loose culture" in the Seahawks locker room is supported by numerous former players, the most recent of which is Greg Olsen. He's not making that up, either. Same with the rumors about Russell wanting to leave during the offseason. That may or may not have been true, but the rumor didn't start with Cowherd.

You may not agree with his conclusion or interpretation, but he's not making up anything other than his own opinion on those events. He's simply trying to connect the dots and make some sense out of it.

[Hawktawk]

Cowherd has this one pretty much nailed. Its well past due time to blow it up. Give PC his due, Russ his accolades but its over and it was over before it was over. The apex of the regime was over half a decade ago.

Seattle really is a pretty historically easy town to play in for the Seahawks. The fans were pretty loyal through decades of 7-9-9-7-6-10-2-14 and the occasional 10 plus win season. Holmgren came in and didn't win a playoff game his first 6 years!!!!Went to and lost a super bowl with a huge assist from officials. Went out the door not giving a damn at being 4-12, showing up late at the office, not rolling up his sleeves and coaching. And he was the holy grail till PC although i have some love for Knox as the 1 B as well.

But lets face it in retrospect. The heyday for PC and JS was back when Russ was on his rookie deal and we had the filthiest tailback in history along with the filthiest scoring defense in the modern era. Since SB 49 not a single trip even back to the conference championship and not real close in any of the losses in the WC or divisional over the last 6 years. NOT ONE GREAT GAME BY WILSON IN ANY OF THOSE LOSSES. The scheme on D hasn't changed. The QB seemed to put up more star wars numbers all the time for years, just not in crunch time in the playoffs. This team has been irrelevant by mid January for a long time now were irrelevant in November because he's just playing like he's in the playoffs in the regular season now. and the defense isn't the LOB, not even close. But the scheme stays the same.

Doug Peterson brought a Championship to Philly what? 4 years ago? He did it with a career backup and coached him up well enough to win SB MVP over the GOAT. He was fired last year after missing the playoffs and having issues with the star QB who they also shipped off. What's he up to? Its worth noting the Eagles are back in the mix with an electrifying young Jalen Hurts suddenly playing as well as anyone. Also Wendz has enjoyed the change of scenery.

Russ may rue sticking around but as a fan I currently rue that they didn't try to pull the trigger on a Wilson trade in the offseason. His stock has to be plummeting . His last 3 starts he's directed the team to 20 points total with a completion rate of 50% with 3 picks . He and everyone else better hope the finger still isn't healed because if it is we now have a 5-10 guy with Cam Newton accuracy. And even before that its like the clutch gene has left his body.

For us, for Russ we hope he winds up 100% but IMO he's not, should be sitting while we decide if Geno is someone we hang onto while we figure out what's next or go another direction. Anyone who wants to make the case that Russ gave us the best chance last 2 games have at it..

[obiken]

Chuck Knox used to call whining about the refs, losers laments. We lost the the SB in October when Kenny Hamlin got into a fight in Pioneer Square and got his skull cracked. No way Parker gets long runs up the middle with KH there.

[NorthHawk]

Cowherd has this one pretty much nailed. Its well past due time to blow it up. Give PC his due, Russ his accolades but its over and it was over before it was over. The apex of the regime was over half a decade ago.

Seattle really is a pretty historically easy town to play in for the Seahawks. The fans were pretty loyal through decades of 7-9-9-7-6-10-2-14 and the occasional 10 plus win season. Holmgren came in and didn't win a playoff game his first 6 years!!!!Went to and lost a super bowl with a huge assist from officials. Went out the door not giving a damn at being 4-12, showing up late at the office, not rolling up his sleeves and coaching. And he was the holy grail till PC although i have some love for Knox as the 1 B as well.

But lets face it in retrospect. The heyday for PC and JS was back when Russ was on his rookie deal and we had the filthiest tailback in history along with the filthiest scoring defense in the modern era. Since SB 49 not a single trip even back to the conference championship and not real close in any of the losses in the WC or divisional over the last 6 years. NOT ONE GREAT GAME BY WILSON IN ANY OF THOSE LOSSES. The scheme on D hasn't changed. The QB seemed to put up more star wars numbers all the time for years, just not in crunch time in the playoffs. This team has been irrelevant by mid January for a long time now were irrelevant in November because he's just playing like he's in the playoffs in the regular season now. and the defense isn't the LOB, not even close. But the scheme stays the same.

Doug Peterson brought a Championship to Philly what? 4 years ago? He did it with a career backup and coached him up well enough to win SB MVP over the GOAT. He was fired last year after missing the playoffs and having issues with the star QB who they also shipped off. What's he up to? Its worth noting the Eagles are back in the mix with an electrifying young Jalen Hurts suddenly playing as well as anyone. Also Wendz has enjoyed the change of scenery.

Russ may rue sticking around but as a fan I currently rue that they didn't try to pull the trigger on a Wilson trade in the offseason. His stock has to be plummeting . His last 3 starts he's directed the team to 20 points total with a completion rate of 50% with 3 picks . He and everyone else better hope the finger still isn't healed because if it is we now have a 5-10 guy with Cam Newton accuracy. And even before that its like the clutch gene has left his body.

For us, for Russ we hope he winds up 100% but IMO he's not, should be sitting while we decide if Geno is someone we hang onto while we figure out what's next or go another direction. Anyone who wants to make the case that Russ gave us the best chance last 2 games have at it..

I thought about Russ's stock plummeting, too but all he needs is a couple of good games and a few bad games won't matter.
However, the bigger problem is keeping him here. What could be done? I think it would have to be a drastic change like Pete and maybe John both moving on and Russ having
a hand in selecting the GM and/or coach. Russ always said he wants to own a team one day, so this might be a chance to see things from the other side he wouldn't be able to
pass up. It would be a gamble doing that, but look at the teams that have trouble finding a Franchise type QB even when they have a good team already in place. Cleveland has
all of the pieces except for maybe Mayfield, but if that team was here with Russel I would suspect we would be challenging for the league's best record. Miami is a good team still
looking for their QB and won't become a serious contender until they get one as well.

[RiverDog]

Cowherd has this one pretty much nailed. Its well past due time to blow it up. Give PC his due, Russ his accolades but its over and it was over before it was over. The apex of the regime was over half a decade ago.

Seattle really is a pretty historically easy town to play in for the Seahawks. The fans were pretty loyal through decades of 7-9-9-7-6-10-2-14 and the occasional 10 plus win season. Holmgren came in and didn't win a playoff game his first 6 years!!!!Went to and lost a super bowl with a huge assist from officials. Went out the door not giving a damn at being 4-12, showing up late at the office, not rolling up his sleeves and coaching. And he was the holy grail till PC although i have some love for Knox as the 1 B as well.

But lets face it in retrospect. The heyday for PC and JS was back when Russ was on his rookie deal and we had the filthiest tailback in history along with the filthiest scoring defense in the modern era. Since SB 49 not a single trip even back to the conference championship and not real close in any of the losses in the WC or divisional over the last 6 years. NOT ONE GREAT GAME BY WILSON IN ANY OF THOSE LOSSES. The scheme on D hasn't changed. The QB seemed to put up more star wars numbers all the time for years, just not in crunch time in the playoffs. This team has been irrelevant by mid January for a long time now were irrelevant in November because he's just playing like he's in the playoffs in the regular season now. and the defense isn't the LOB, not even close. But the scheme stays the same.

Doug Peterson brought a Championship to Philly what? 4 years ago? He did it with a career backup and coached him up well enough to win SB MVP over the GOAT. He was fired last year after missing the playoffs and having issues with the star QB who they also shipped off. What's he up to? Its worth noting the Eagles are back in the mix with an electrifying young Jalen Hurts suddenly playing as well as anyone. Also Wendz has enjoyed the change of scenery.

Russ may rue sticking around but as a fan I currently rue that they didn't try to pull the trigger on a Wilson trade in the offseason. His stock has to be plummeting . His last 3 starts he's directed the team to 20 points total with a completion rate of 50% with 3 picks . He and everyone else better hope the finger still isn't healed because if it is we now have a 5-10 guy with Cam Newton accuracy. And even before that its like the clutch gene has left his body.

For us, for Russ we hope he winds up 100% but IMO he's not, should be sitting while we decide if Geno is someone we hang onto while we figure out what's next or go another direction. Anyone who wants to make the case that Russ gave us the best chance last 2 games have at it..

Except for your continued obsession with Geno, I agree with all of that. I'm not sure what it is that causes you to think that "we" need to decide if Geno is someone we want to hang onto. One good effort against one of the worst teams in football? He's a journeyman backup and that's all.

This team needs to be blown up. Pete needs to move on, preferably through retirement. I wouldn't mind seeing him remain as some sort of consultant if that's what he chooses to do as he's still a brilliant football mind, but it's becoming more and more obvious that his system no longer works. If Russell wants to stay and be part of this rebuild, then great. Get rid of Metcalf. You don't build a team around a $25M wide receiver.

[RiverDog]

I thought about Russ's stock plummeting, too but all he needs is a couple of good games and a few bad games won't matter.
However, the bigger problem is keeping him here. What could be done? I think it would have to be a drastic change like Pete and maybe John both moving on and Russ having a hand in selecting the GM and/or coach. Russ always said he wants to own a team one day, so this might be a chance to see things from the other side he wouldn't be able to pass up. It would be a gamble doing that, but look at the teams that have trouble finding a Franchise type QB even when they have a good team already in place. Cleveland has all of the pieces except for maybe Mayfield, but if that team was here with Russel I would suspect we would be challenging for the league's best record. Miami is a good team still looking for their QB and won't become a serious contender until they get one as well.

I'm not sure if Ciera is going to like moving to Cleveland.

But you can throw Las Vegas into that mix. They aren't going anywhere with Derek Carr, especially in that division. Plus Las Vegas is in the market for a new coach, and as you said, Russell has an interest in management/ownership, and the Raiders were on the 4 team list his agent put out 9 months ago. The Saints are another team that were on that 4 team list and are in the hunt for a franchise QB.

[Hawktawk]

Except for your continued obsession with Geno, I agree with all of that. I'm not sure what it is that causes you to think that "we" need to decide if Geno is someone we want to hang onto. One good effort against one of the worst teams in football? He's a journeyman backup and that's all.

This team needs to be blown up. Pete needs to move on, preferably through retirement. I wouldn't mind seeing him remain as some sort of consultant if that's what he chooses to do as he's still a brilliant football mind, but it's becoming more and more obvious that his system no longer works. If Russell wants to stay and be part of this rebuild, then great. Get rid of Metcalf. You don't build a team around a $25M wide receiver.

These are Genos numbers in 3 starts and a quarter . We were only in the Rams game because of a 98 yard drive , 2 4th quarter scores , 140 passing yards . In his brief action he threw 5 touchdown passes , 4 of them to DK which is half his total and a rushing TD. Vs Steelers he had a rating of 99 and a 72% completion rate despite being sacked 5 times . Lost in overtime on a strip by watt who wasn’t blocked all night . Led 3 straight scoring drives . Has Russ done that all year ? Saints was his worst game obviously but if the kicker does his job it’s a win . Vs Pittsburgh our suddenly timid confused coach passed up mid 50 field goals twice and punted both times including Seattle’s first drive when I thought it was worth a gamble to reward the offense for getting in scoring position .
Then Jax and I know you like to point out how terrible they were but 14 completions in a row , 80% completion rate , ball right on the hands and between the numbers all day against an NFL team , abusing a corner who practiced against DK and this offense by going to DK over and over and over . Dismiss it all you like . He had a pick vs the Rams when Lock fell down and the strip fumble and that’s it despite being sacked 13 times and hit many more times . Like DK said of the one TD pass I NEVER HAD A BALL LIKE THAT. I also saw comments on Twitter between Smith and Diggs after that game ribbing one another . Diggs said “you’re not as mobile as you were at West Virginia “Smith responded Diggs is terrible at video games . There is an affection there . That was a happy locker room .
Had you said Geno is a journeyman when he stepped on the field vs the Rams I would not have given him that much respect . But 3 starts , 700 yards , 5 tds and a rush TD , QBR of 102, only 1 pick on a route the receiver fell . Imo those are starter numbers . Not superstar but starter. And like I5 said we want to know cause we’re not sure . Particularly vs the Pack it’s clear Russ should have sat and Russ forced his way on the field cause Carroll has always acquiesced to his wishes . I think Russ didn’t want to see another game of Geno either , no starter wants to . But IMO
The FO should have had Russ dress , be available and start Geno . If he looked like Russ on the way to a shutout then go to Russ . But if Geno went in and beat the Pack guess who would have the hammer ironing out what happens after the season

I’m infatuated with winning , not Geno or any other player . But as Huard said this AM PC will never dump Russ or bag on JS. This will be up to Jody Allen to decide .

[NorthHawk]

I just mentioned Cleveland as a team in need of a Franchise type QB to get over the hump, Miami too but not in trading him there.
Depending on who ends up being the HC in LV, it would be a good team to go to. If it's a defensive coach then I doubt Russ will want
to go there, but if their new coach is someone like Bienemy (sp) who's a proven Offensive coach Russ would probably be happy.

[RiverDog]

I just mentioned Cleveland as a team in need of a Franchise type QB to get over the hump, Miami too but not in trading him there.
Depending on who ends up being the HC in LV, it would be a good team to go to. If it's a defensive coach then I doubt Russ will want
to go there, but if their new coach is someone like Bienemy (sp) who's a proven Offensive coach Russ would probably be happy.

Understood. I'm on the same page you are regarding Russell.

[Hawktawk]

I just mentioned Cleveland as a team in need of a Franchise type QB to get over the hump, Miami too but not in trading him there.
Depending on who ends up being the HC in LV, it would be a good team to go to. If it's a defensive coach then I doubt Russ will want
to go there, but if their new coach is someone like Bienemy (sp) who's a proven Offensive coach Russ would probably be happy.

If I’m a GM I want to get a pretty good look at Wilson before giving up a bunch . And I know Cleveland “ needs a QB “
but I saw Russ vs the Rams last postseason go 11-29 with a pick . Meanwhile across the country Mayfield was playing a flawless game knocking off the Steelers in 3 rivers , putting his foot in the ground and ripping it . Getting it out quick and being decisive and not taking a sack . And he did that with a left tackle he had met in the locker room before the game . Currently he’s playing with a torn labrum and an ankle injury . I think they have a better record .

It would have been heresy a year ago but I’m not sure Russ is an upgrade over
Mayfield or Carr the way he’s played the last 12 games or so . He’s not a franchise qb right now . He obviously was for 9 years but he has some of the worst stats in the league lately . I keep hoping he proves me wrong but he has not , quite the opposite .

[RiverDog]

If I’m a GM I want to get a pretty good look at Wilson before giving up a bunch . And I know Cleveland “ needs a QB “
but I saw Russ vs the Rams last postseason go 11-29 with a pick . Meanwhile across the country Mayfield was playing a flawless game knocking off the Steelers in 3 rivers , putting his foot in the ground and ripping it . Getting it out quick and being decisive and not taking a sack . And he did that with a left tackle he had met in the locker room before the game . Currently he’s playing with a torn labrum and an ankle injury . I think they have a better record .

It would have been heresy a year ago but I’m not sure Russ is an upgrade over Mayfield or Carr the way he’s played the last 12 games or so . He’s not a franchise qb right now . He obviously was for 9 years but he has some of the worst stats in the league lately . I keep hoping he proves me wrong but he has not , quite the opposite .

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I doubt that it's shared by a majority of GM's. They know what Russell can and can't do.

While I agree that Russell's recent performance has affected his trade value, you have to look at the situation with the other teams around the league. With all these upsets and the lack of dominant teams in both conferences, there's more teams than ever that are hovering around the .500 mark and are justified in thinking that they're just a player or two away from competing for a Super Bowl and could use a solid, legitimate HOF candidate as their quarterback. Even considering the way he's played in the past couple of games, there's still a decent market for Russell that could fetch multiple high draft picks or starting players with the right team.

[Hawktawk]

Someone would bite , probably several teams but as you have said he needs to play some good ball the rest of the way . And again I say stuff and it just doesn’t register but I read accounts by sportswriters last year in the second half of the season who referenced unnamed GMs who were mystified as to what was happening to
Russ LAST YEAR. Now let’s look at the body of work . Colts was a nice game . Absolutely brutal second half and overtime vs the Titans after which even Carrol threw a little shade “ would have been nice if he could help us there , at least change field position “ that after the dreadful series in Ot minus 12 yards 3 and out . Russ threw it back in his face too, defended a deep sideline shot to Lockett on first down that was uncatchable. Then the Vikes , shut out in the second half , a beat down after which Russ went to the podium and said “ we’re going to score a lot of points “ Sometimes it seems you have to score every possession “ a clear shot at the defense . He had a point but that’s not vintage Russ . Good second half vs the 9ers . Brutal in 3 quarters vs Rams prior to the injury . I think we had something like 15 yards offense in the half when Geno came in . Now ……… u been seeing this ??

to be fair DK could have squeezed one deep and we should have gotten a PI call in the endzone to DK. But our franchise guy missed seeing wide open guys both trips in the red zone . Sailed Everett by 2 yards on second down and threw it into the stands with Swain alone in the end zone on 3rd . Then threw it into the ground to Swain on the 3 when Everett was wide open in the end zone .
20 points last 3 starts . 6.33 average per game . It’s not all scheme or the line .
Buyer beware

[RiverDog]

Yeah, we'll see. Like you, I'm not married to either Pete or Russell. Barring a miraculous turnaround, I want one gone and the other one to stay only if he's fully committed.

Next Monday should be a good opportunity for us. Unlike last season, WFT does not have a top 10 defense and is giving up nearly 27 points per game. They've been giving up more passing yards than all but 4 teams.

[NorthHawk]

I think it’s harder to get a possible Pro Bowl QB than upgrade at coach.

[obiken]

Yeah, we'll see. Like you, I'm not married to either Pete or Russell. Barring a miraculous turnaround, I want one gone and the other one to stay only if he's fully committed.

Next Monday should be a good opportunity for us. Unlike last season, WFT does not have a top 10 defense and is giving up nearly 27 points per game. They've been giving up more passing yards than all but 4 teams.

I am married to Russ, but I think he is gone to Miami, NY, or Vegas, next year. Reason River and HT, the person HE is really married to: Ciara.

[Hawktawk]

A few more tidbits . Huard said this AM that McCoy was 18 of 20 targeting Wagner and Brooks in the short middle . Wags always gets a pass and he’s another Russ , HOF caliber beloved hero . But he’s slipping too . Also caught just a little of Locketts comments where he said “ teams aren’t playing us like we see on film “

[RiverDog]

A few more tidbits . Huard said this AM that McCoy was 18 of 20 targeting Wagner and Brooks in the short middle . Wags always gets a pass and he’s another Russ , HOF caliber beloved hero . But he’s slipping too . Also caught just a little of Locketts comments where he said “ teams aren’t playing us like we see on film “

Agreed about Wags. He doesn't get as deep of drops, whether that's age or playing closer to the LOS, I couldn't say. A lot of those over the middle passes are just above his reach. Still a tackling machine, though.

[trents]

While I agree that Russell's recent performance has affected his trade value, you have to look at the situation with the other teams around the league. With all these upsets and the lack of dominant teams in both conferences, there's more teams than ever that are hovering around the .500 mark and are justified in thinking that they're just a player or two away from competing for a Super Bowl and could use a solid, legitimate HOF candidate as their quarterback. Even considering the way he's played in the past couple of games, there's still a decent market for Russell that could fetch multiple high draft picks or starting players with the right team.

The league calls that parity. A lot of .500 teams with division leaders changing every week right up to the playoffs. Keeps fan interest high and dynasties away. Makes it more likely that one or two on field personnel changes will produce a new champion from year to year. That's the design of the current draft system and that's the effect the league wants.

[RiverDog]

The league calls that parity. A lot of .500 teams with division leaders changing every week right up to the playoffs. Keeps fan interest high and dynasties away. Makes it more likely that one or two on field personnel changes will produce a new champion from year to year. That's the design of the current draft system and that's the effect the league wants.

Yup. "On any given Sunday" was the motto of Bert Bell, the NFL commissioner that first understood that the success of the league was dependent on parity. It's the main reason why I'm so enthusiastic about NFL football and have lost so much interest in college football.

[Hawktawk]

On any given Sunday has never been more true than this year . Teams dead and buried early like Indy , Philly, NE, 9ers are very much alive . Our coming opponent lost their best edge rusher but the qb Heineken is a hard nosed lunch pail guy much like McCoy. I think he’s a bit more athletic . They are only a win or so from relevance . What’s happened to Buffalo is shocking . Dallas . Definitely not predictable other than Detroit or Seattle .

[RiverDog]

On any given Sunday has never been more true than this year . Teams dead and buried early like Indy , Philly, NE, 9ers are very much alive . Our coming opponent lost their best edge rusher but the qb Heineken is a hard nosed lunch pail guy much like McCoy. I think he’s a bit more athletic . They are only a win or so from relevance . What’s happened to Buffalo is shocking . Dallas . Definitely not predictable other than Detroit or Seattle .

Yep. I can't remember a season like this one. There's always been the occasional upset with a last or nearly last place team beating a first place team, like the Dolphins beating the Patriots a few years back, but not like there's been this season. That's one of the reasons why I like the NFL over college football, although this season has been a bit topsy turvey for them, too, but not nearly to the same degree that the NFL has been turned on its head.

That's one of the reasons why this season is so frustrating. This conference is there for the taking but we couldn't find our ass if we were in a room full of mirrors.

[trents]

Pete is a master at using many words to say nothing of any substance. I always come away from his pressers wondering, "Is there anything of meaningful to take away from that?" He's a master at swinging the hammer many times and never managing to hit the nail on the head. So, it's no mystery to me the team seems to lack identity and direction right now.

[RiverDog]

Pete is a master at using many words to say nothing of any substance. I always come away from his pressers wondering, "Is there anything of meaningful to take away from that?" He's a master at swinging the hammer many times and never managing to hit the nail on the head. So, it's no mystery to me the team seems to lack identity and direction right now.

It's called Petespeak. He tends to speak in cliches, makes liberal use of analogies, talks a lot but never say anything. It's been his style since he's been head coach here and I suspect during his entire career of public speaking. It's a trait shared or acquired by his quarterback.

[Hawktawk]

Their personalities and way of speaking is very similar. I've kind of had it with both of them and their whistling in the graveyard. Pete speak works when you have the LOB and Beast and Russ on a rookie deal. Those days are gone. Tired of seeing Russ little self promotional memes on social media too . Saw one yesterday of him in his gear and eye black with the caption "resilient" RESILIENT? your 2-7 last 9 starts

PCs babbling is driving me nuts. If your the coach 10 games into a season and your saying "i dont know" about every question your asked its time to go. Russ too. Thanks for the memories. 20 points and 3 picks last 3 starts'. I dont see a franchise guy right now. Hopefully a trade partner does. As always love to be wrong starting Monday.

[NorthHawk]

I think Russ's tweets are a motivational tactic for himself as much as anyone else.
When things are bad you have to find something to motivate you or help you over the next hill. If it works for him, great, keep doing it.

[trents]

I think Russ's tweets are a motivational tactic for himself as much as anyone else.
When things are bad you have to find something to motivate you or help you over the next hill. If it works for him, great, keep doing it.

Apparently it's not working for him. At least, not anymore.