Gruden

[curmudgeon]

Personal vendetta. If the NFL truly wanted to “protect their brand” they would have done a little homework prior to booking hip hop “stars” to perform at Super Bowls. They would have uncovered language and behavior that make Gruden look like a choir boy…..

[NorthHawk]

Makes you wonder who leaked the emails.

[RiverDog]

Apparently it was part of the NFL investigation of the WFT and all correspondence. This happened between Bruce Allen and Gruden
but it was archived as part of the WFT evidence. Had this been personal correspondence, it never would have been revealed.

I think that's a fair assumption. I'd be curious to know if the emails in question were all between Gruden and Bruce Allen or if there were other league employees that he had communicated with.

I also might have been a little hard on the league when I said that if they didn't know, they should have. Although I assume that, like all employers, the league must do a background and records check into any high profile applicant, but that since Gruden wasn't a league employee at the time, they probably didn't include emails within the league's domain. After this incident, it's likely that will change, that they'll leave no stone unturned prior to hiring high profile individuals.

[RiverDog]

Makes you wonder who leaked the emails.

Or if the league would have taken any action had they not been leaked.

[RiverDog]

Personal vendetta. If the NFL truly wanted to “protect their brand” they would have done a little homework prior to booking hip hop “stars” to perform at Super Bowls. They would have uncovered language and behavior that make Gruden look like a choir boy…..

That's a good point, although I don't know how far the league wants to go in trying to project the image that they're as pure as the wind driven snow. Do you want to investigate the hip hop star's booking manager? Their stage hands? Where do you draw the line? And how about companies that advertise with them or that have a long term relationship with them, like ESPN, Fox, et al? It seems like you're opening a can of worms if you start extending the personal conduct policy to vendors and other non employees.

[obiken]

Sorry to be preachy… but Real world alert (& no offense to you guys who are likely white, straight, and/or male). As a gay, female, higher-level leader of 100s of employees… I heard Gruden-like $h!++y ass comments my entire career. I have been pinned to a wall and kissed. I have been groped. There have been numerous gestures, eye rolls, chiding jokes in meetings, derogatory comments, and even insinuations I was romantically vying for affairs w/ younger female employees (even though I’ve been a faithful spouse for a quarter decade), weight jokes, “give me a bj and show em you ain’t a dyke” comments etc. from 1983 to my retirement date in early summer (which was such a freeing time because I finally didn’t have to pretend that $h1+ is ok anymore to save my job.) It got better in the 2010s for a bit until Trump made bigotry/misogyny great again.

I worked in the Parks industry, was largely respected by subordinates, peers, bosses, and the community….& yet the ish I had to endure even in “blue” California up to five months ago when I retired was constant. Shudder to think living out n middle Tennessee, or the NFL. All to say - in a macho, male-dominated industry made up of mostly white males - I know what we are reading about Chuckle’s comments & behavior pales in comparison to what he actually said/did/feels/believes. So all due respect, EFF him and good riddance.

I dont get that HS! Worked for the DOC in Oregon for 27 years, after years of Sexual Harassment, sorry IF I verbally came on to a gal at all I would get two chances, one to get me in trouble, and one to send me down the road. IF I put a female up against the wall, I would have just been DONE. So 1. I am sorry you had to put up with all that crap, and 2. HOW the hell did the system fail in California of all places???

[RiverDog]

Ben Volin of the Boston Globe has some interesting and thought provolking observations:

But Gruden is not the only one who should be forced to account for his actions. The Raiders, the Washington Football Team, and the NFL have a lot of explaining to do, too.

Most pointedly, why is Gruden the only person taking any shrapnel from the yearlong investigation into Washington’s workplace culture? The NFL’s punishment of owner Dan Snyder was laughable when it was announced on July 1, and looks even more absurd now that Gruden’s e-mails have been leaked.

Washington was fined $10 million and Snyder had to cede control of the team “for at least the next several months,” but that was it. The person who received control of the team was Snyder’s wife, Tanya. Snyder wasn’t formally suspended, and he showed up to the Aug. 12 preseason game and sat in the owners’ box.

And why did the NFL not allow (investigator Beth) Wilkinson (hired by the NFL) to provide a written report of her entire investigation? You know, like the 243-page report Ted Wells authored on the Patriots’ alleged ball-deflating scheme.

Wilkinson was told to give a verbal report to NFL leadership, but none of her findings were printed in ink. There was no public mention of any of the several dozen sexual harassment allegations made against Snyder and his football team, nor of the $1.6 million workplace misconduct settlement Snyder paid to a former female employee in 2009.

The NFL forced former Panthers owner Jerry Richardson out of its exclusive club late in 2017 when several allegations of sexual harassment came to light. Yet Snyder got a slap on the wrist and full protection from the NFL. It’s outrageous and disgraceful.

The Raiders also have some explaining to do. Owner Mark Davis stood by Gruden last week when one racist e-mail from Gruden denigrating NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith came to light. But Davis also had in his possession the homophobic and sexist e-mails that the New York Times published Monday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jo ... d=msedgntp

I'm not sure about you folks, but I sure smell a fish.

[obiken]

Accountability Riv, after 26 years in the Oregon DOC that word almost makes me want to perpetually puke.

[Hawktawk]

Personal vendetta. If the NFL truly wanted to “protect their brand” they would have done a little homework prior to booking hip hop “stars” to perform at Super Bowls. They would have uncovered language and behavior that make Gruden look like a choir boy…..

Come on man . Rap artists who push the envelope regularly are just not remotely similar to Gruden. These were a steady stream of these messages for 7 years . He was an analyst at the time but now he’s a guy making 10 million a year and clearly his views are abhorrent . It’s 2021. See ya . I wanna see if there’s any sort of lifetime ban issued to Bruce Allen and anyone else who yukked it up with him. No sympathy . I’ll admit having had similar exchanges decades ago as a small town white kid in right wing country . I’m ashamed frankly and beyond what Gruden said the stupidity and arrogance to put it on the record …..naw no sympathy and no red herrings about halftime shows either .

[RiverDog]

While Jon Gruden has been humiliated personally and his professional career ruined, the story isn't going away anytime soon. I'm seeing article after article calling into question why the league is handling the investigation into the workplace culture at WFT extremely close to the vest while they have been very public about other investigations:

Gruden’s emails became public as a result of an independent investigation the NFL commissioned into the workplace culture of the Washington Football Team—a probe that was prompted by reporting in The Washington Post that pointed the finger right at Snyder, among others. The investigation took 11 months, and its completion was greeted by the NFL with a broom swiftly sweeping it under the rug.

The league released the news just before the four-day Fourth of July weekend, refused to make specifics of Beth Wilkinson’s findings public and, presumably, crossed its fingers that questions directed at Snyder’s involvement would simply go away. Remember, this is a league that published a 243-page report on Tom Brady’s deflating footballs, a 144-page report on Richie Incognito’s harassing teammate Jonathan Martin, and a 96-page report on Ray Rice’s domestic violence case. All of those reports can still be found, in full, online.

Now, ask yourself this: Are Gruden’s comments really central to what the league paid Wilkinson for over 11 months to find out? Gruden wasn’t working, and has never worked, for the franchise before. Yes, the correspondence with his friend and then Washington executive Bruce Allen revealed some of the issues that festered inside the building and surely helped Wilkinson get to her conclusions. But Gruden’s abhorrent language was, and is, separate.

So if the NFL came across the Gruden emails and decided something had to be done, and wanted to make them public before someone else did, then that’s understandable. But if you accept that, the next logical question is why it was so important to be transparent about something someone on the fringes of the investigation said, all while you’ve barely uttered a word about the horrible things that were alleged to be happening inside one of your workplaces.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/jo ... d=msedgntp

[NorthHawk]

I'm absolutely shocked that the NFL would even consider using distraction techniques to avoid scrutiny of one of the billionaire owners.
/sarc

We all know what's going on, and probably have a good idea of what happened in Washington even if it's never confirmed by emails or other means.
It's simply a matter of if they have a big enough broom to sweep it all under the carpet.

[RiverDog]

I'm absolutely shocked that the NFL would even consider using distraction techniques to avoid scrutiny of one of the billionaire owners.
/sarc

We all know what's going on, and probably have a good idea of what happened in Washington even if it's never confirmed by emails or other means.
It's simply a matter of if they have a big enough broom to sweep it all under the carpet.

Yes, we all know what's going on. So do the other owners.

They forced Jerry Richardson to sell his team for transgressions that don't hold a candle to some of the allegations that have been made about Snyder and his WFT. IMO their investigation revealed a lot more than just some classless emails from Gruden to Allen. They obviously involve multiple teams, coaches, and owners. Why else would they be sitting on this report, not even committing it to writing, when all the other investigations were made public?

On a side note, Tony Dungy, a guy that I have enormous respect for, is taking a beating on social media over his defense of Jon Gruden during the extended halftime of SNF, extremely unfair IMO.

[NorthHawk]

The Raiders lost a number of FO personnel earlier this year. There was a question as to why and now I wonder if
they knew something was in the wind and jumped ship early.

[RiverDog]

The Raiders lost a number of FO personnel earlier this year. There was a question as to why and now I wonder if
they knew something was in the wind and jumped ship early.

I doubt it. There was nothing in the rumor mill or anything else about the explosive email that the league was sitting on.

My opinion has begun to shift somewhat. I still don't feel a damn bit sorry for Gruden. You just don't talk like that, even in confidence and amongst close friends. He's been in the spotlight for some 30 years so he knows all about life in the fish bowl.

But IMO the league has opened up a can of worms by authorizing the investigator to search person-to-person communications. They went way beyond the scope of their investigation and embarked on a fishing expedition, and ended up destroying the career of someone that wasn't even a part of their stated goal of investigating the workplace atmosphere at WFT. Collateral damage by using a weapon of mass destruction, communications that individuals assumed were private. Why not investigate other individuals that have ever sent emails to WFT employees? Let's see what Dan Snyder said in confidence to Jerry Jones. Why not see what other TV commentators, like Randy Moss, might have been talking to Jay Gruden about?

Even though they had a legal right to do so, they should have never allowed the investigation to include what was assumed to be private conversations.

[Hawktawk]

Carr said love the man hate the sin . He also suggested open it up to everyone. It’s being revealed a general counsel in the league office was great friends with Allen and has a ton of e mails . Of course a league that destroyed tapes of Billacheat recording signals , defend the officiating in super bowl XL and pick and choose what owners to protect and who to deep 6 it won’t happen . Still no sympathy whatever for Gruden.

[RiverDog]

Carr said love the man hate the sin . He also suggested open it up to everyone. It’s being revealed a general counsel in the league office was great friends with Allen and has a ton of e mails . Of course a league that destroyed tapes of Billacheat recording signals , defend the officiating in super bowl XL and pick and choose what owners to protect and who to deep 6 it won’t happen . Still no sympathy whatever for Gruden.

IMO Carr was being just a little sarcastic when he suggested to "open it up to everyone" as you put it. Two wrongs don't make a right. They should not be going into everyone's one-on-one conversations looking for a villain behind every corner unless they have some specific evidence as they do in the WFT investigation where they've had scores of complaints and allegations made by former employees, and even then, they should have limited the investigation to conversations completely within the WFT organization. Even though they have every right to do so as those messages are their property, ethically they should respect their employees privacy unless they have a damn good reason to violate it.

Agreed about Gruden. Zero sympathy from me.

[NorthHawk]

I feel sorry for the Cheerleaders who were the biggest victims of Snyder's regime - even if he had nothing to do with it.

[RiverDog]

I feel sorry for the Cheerleaders who were the biggest victims of Snyder's regime - even if he had nothing to do with it.

If even 10% of the accusations are true, Snyder should be forced to sell the franchise, and if certain accusations are true, such as confiscating passports, then it should be turned over to law enforcement and prosecuted as a crime.

[obiken]

IMO Carr was being just a little sarcastic when he suggested to "open it up to everyone" as you put it. Two wrongs don't make a right. They should not be going into everyone's one-on-one conversations looking for a villain behind every corner unless they have some specific evidence as they do in the WFT investigation where they've had scores of complaints and allegations made by former employees, and even then, they should have limited the investigation to conversations completely within the WFT organization. Even though they have every right to do so as those messages are their property, ethically they should respect their employees privacy unless they have a damn good reason to violate it.

Agreed about Gruden. Zero sympathy from me.

Agreed, except Carr was left to defend the whole thing when his boss whiffed. How about Jerry Jones, there's a real moral midget, we have another 100 years to go before we reach an egalitarian America, or a Star Trek like motif where its only your character, talent, and hard work that define you. Sad thing is we thought we were passed all this in the mid 90's.

[Aseahawkfan]

I don't even know how Gruden became as popular as he did. Not sure what he did to earn it. He's never been what I consider a great coach. His Super Bowl win was pure luck. Best possible circumstances and the offense didn't even win it, the defense did. What has Gruden done besides that win? Nothing as far as I know.

Gruden was sold as some QB guru? What QB has he developed? No one I can think of. He liked having veterans like Rich Gannon because he didn't have to develop them.

Gruden was just some extremely lucky guy with a colorful personality who rose to a prominence that far exceeded his accomplishments. Looks like his luck finally ran out.

[RiverDog]

IMO Carr was being just a little sarcastic when he suggested to "open it up to everyone" as you put it. Two wrongs don't make a right. They should not be going into everyone's one-on-one conversations looking for a villain behind every corner unless they have some specific evidence as they do in the WFT investigation where they've had scores of complaints and allegations made by former employees, and even then, they should have limited the investigation to conversations completely within the WFT organization. Even though they have every right to do so as those messages are their property, ethically they should respect their employees privacy unless they have a damn good reason to violate it.

Agreed about Gruden. Zero sympathy from me.

Agreed, except Carr was left to defend the whole thing when his boss whiffed. How about Jerry Jones, there's a real moral midget, we have another 100 years to go before we reach an egalitarian America, or a Star Trek like motif where its only your character, talent, and hard work that define you. Sad thing is we thought we were passed all this in the mid 90's.

Yea, I guess it's no wonder that blacks still don't feel as if they're fully integrated into our society when they see the highest paid NFL coach in history talking like he did. Gruden doesn't even have the excuse of being raised in a society where that kind of talk was commonly accepted as my dad might have had. That's one of the reasons why I have zero sympathy for the man.

[RiverDog]

I don't even know how Gruden became as popular as he did. Not sure what he did to earn it. He's never been what I consider a great coach. His Super Bowl win was pure luck. Best possible circumstances and the offense didn't even win it, the defense did. What has Gruden done besides that win? Nothing as far as I know.

Gruden was sold as some QB guru? What QB has he developed? No one I can think of. He liked having veterans like Rich Gannon because he didn't have to develop them.

Gruden was just some extremely lucky guy with a colorful personality who rose to a prominence that far exceeded his accomplishments. Looks like his luck finally ran out.

Yea, Gruden's resume was pretty thin. He never had much of a playing career, was a backup QB at Dayton for 3 seasons. He got his big break when Mike Holmgren hired him as a "special assistant" when The Walrus was QB coach with the Niners then went with Holmgren to the Packers as a WR coach. I never did get why the Raider's fan base was so ga-ga over him.

I sure as hell didn't like him on MNF. He reminded me too much of Joe Theisman, sort of know-it-all, appeared to me to be too smug, too conceited. It was just a personal impression, but my instincts were right on the mark.

[NorthHawk]

Winning a Super Bowl carries a lot of weight.
As well, he and the Raiders owner already knew each other so it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of him, if the boss likes
him he gets a chance that others who may be better qualified wouldn't. It's the way life works.

[RiverDog]

Winning a Super Bowl carries a lot of weight.
As well, he and the Raiders owner already knew each other so it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks of him, if the boss likes
him he gets a chance that others who may be better qualified wouldn't. It's the way life works.

IMO winning a Lombardi was not a major factor in his hiring. The Raiders are the only franchise that would have hired him, let alone overpay for him. In the years after his Lombardi, he fell flat on his face and was eventually fired. He had been out of the game for 10 years. The Raiders are the only franchise that would have hired him, let alone over pay for him.

Mark Davis was moving his team from a big market into one of the smallest. In addition, the Las Vegas market is much like Phoenix, a lot of people were born somewhere else and already had NFL teams that they were loyal to (there's a bar in LV, Scooter's Pub, that caters to Seahawk fans). Davis desperately needed to shore up his nation wide fan base so they would stick with him when they moved, and they wanted a return to their glory days, specifically Jon Gruden. Hell, Davis might not have fired him had it not been for the league telling him to do so or else.

[RiverDog]

It would appear that Gruden is suing the NFL and Roger Goodell:

Former Las Vegas Raiders coach Jon Gruden filed a lawsuit against the NFL and commissioner Roger Goodell on Thursday in Nevada, court records show.

In a statement to USA TODAY Sports on Friday, an attorney for Gruden said the complaint alleges that “the defendants selectively leaked Gruden’s private correspondence to The Wall Street Journal and New York Times in order to harm Gruden’s reputation and force him out of his job.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 591354002/

This should be interesting. The emails are league property, so they can do with them as they please. However, if Gruden's lawyers can show that they released them with the intent of causing harm to Gruden, it could expose them to a huge settlement. I think he has a good chance of winning.

[Hawktawk]

Good luck on this Gruden. Right or wrong its the contents of the Emails that reveal Grudens lack of character. If he hadn't said it it wouldn't be out there to find. leaking them exposed his character not destroyed his character.

I rather doubt he's gonna get far against the leagues money and lawyers unless they would really get exposed in discovery as far as other similar correspondences such as what was Bruce Allen's response to all this communication?

I tend to agree with Carr they should open it all up . in which case i could see a confidential settlement with a gag order on Gruden to shut him up

[RiverDog]

Good luck on this Gruden. Right or wrong its the contents of the Emails that reveal Grudens lack of character. If he hadn't said it it wouldn't be out there to find. leaking them exposed his character not destroyed his character.

I rather doubt he's gonna get far against the leagues money and lawyers unless they would really get exposed in discovery as far as other similar correspondences such as what was Bruce Allen's response to all this communication?

I tend to agree with Carr they should open it all up . in which case i could see a confidential settlement with a gag order on Gruden to shut him up

The fact that the league isn't 'opening it all up' will help Gruden's case. He can argue that he was a sacrificial lamb and the sole victim of the NFL's purge, that there are others that exhibit the same types of behavior that he lost his job for. Frankly, I hope he wins his case, not because I feel any sympathy for Gruden. He got what he deserved. The league needs to go all in if they truly want to root out the kind of insensitive attitude that Gruden displayed.

My sense is that the reason why the league doesn't want to go any further is because there's some high profile owners (Jerry Jones maybe?) that are guilty of the same thing Gruden was canned for.

[obiken]

My sense is that the reason why the league doesn't want to go any further is because there's some high profile owners (Jerry Jones maybe?) that are guilty of the same thing Gruden was canned for.

Its just another sweep job from Roger the broom boy. Huge Sex scandal, sweep. Kneeling sweep, Kapper playing again, sweep. Etc etc etc.

Gruden did not have to quit IMHO. This stuff ALL happened before he was a coach. He has a good case.

[RiverDog]

My sense is that the reason why the league doesn't want to go any further is because there's some high profile owners (Jerry Jones maybe?) that are guilty of the same thing Gruden was canned for.

I

ts just another sweep job from Roger the broom boy. Huge Sex scandal, sweep. Kneeling sweep, Kapper playing again, sweep. Etc etc etc.

Gruden did not have to quit IMHO. This stuff ALL happened before he was a coach. He has a good case.

Gruden didn't quit, he was fired. It's an important distinction.

IMO the league, or rather the Raiders, had a justifiable reason to fire him. Even though the communications were before he was hired, it's something that would have brought a lot of criticism on the league and might have caused them to lose sponsorships. It was a business decision. The problem is that Gruden wasn't treated fairly. His communications, of which he assumed were private, were disclosed to the public but they haven't revealed anyone else's.

[Hawktawk]

I have no sympathy for Gruden . He is a bigot and homophobe and also an idiot to put it in the record in a traceable communication . That said I’m for seeing all of it and this lawsuit will probably try to force it in discovery

[RiverDog]

I have no sympathy for Gruden . He is a bigot and homophobe and also an idiot to put it in the record in a traceable communication . That said I’m for seeing all of it and this lawsuit will probably try to force it in discovery

I'm no lawyer, but to this layman, it would seem that they would not be able to force the NFL to reveal any emails that doesn't pertain directly to Gruden's case. If the NFL wants to release them as part of their defense to prove that Gruden was the only one and wasn't singled out, then that's their business. There would be legitimate privacy concerns of hundreds of individuals that the league could argue would be exposed if there were a mass dump of emails.

[obiken]

Gruden didn't quit, he was fired. It's an important distinction.
IMO the league, or rather the Raiders, had a justifiable reason to fire him. Even though the communications were before he was hired, it's something that would have brought a lot of criticism on the league and might have caused them to lose sponsorships. It was a business decision. The problem is that Gruden wasn't treated fairly. His communications, of which he assumed were private, were disclosed to the public but they haven't revealed anyone else's.

Poor babies, saying RW was not black enough is not detrimental to the league? Sorry I agree he had to go but they did not have proper legal cause to fire him.

[RiverDog]

Gruden didn't quit, he was fired. It's an important distinction.
IMO the league, or rather the Raiders, had a justifiable reason to fire him. Even though the communications were before he was hired, it's something that would have brought a lot of criticism on the league and might have caused them to lose sponsorships. It was a business decision. The problem is that Gruden wasn't treated fairly. His communications, of which he assumed were private, were disclosed to the public but they haven't revealed anyone else's.

Poor babies, saying RW was not black enough is not detrimental to the league? Sorry I agree he had to go but they did not have proper legal cause to fire him.

Not sure how that relates to the subject. "RW is not black enough" was a rumor that came out of the Seahawks locker room, not something that transpired between coaches and other management types.

It will be interesting to see how this court case transpires. I can see both sides of the argument.

[NorthHawk]

I'm no lawyer, but to this layman, it would seem that they would not be able to force the NFL to reveal any emails that doesn't pertain directly to Gruden's case. If the NFL wants to release them as part of their defense to prove that Gruden was the only one and wasn't singled out, then that's their business. There would be legitimate privacy concerns of hundreds of individuals that the league could argue would be exposed if there were a mass dump of emails.

Neither am I but if they can prove that it was common for these types of comments or if others had similar poor judgement or similar views but he was singled out then he might have a case for the NFL going
after him specifically. I think that's what his lawsuit is about in part - unfavorable treatment by the NFL in releasing those emails.

[Hawktawk]

I’m no lawyer but I’ve needed one but it would seem if Gruden has a snowballs chance in hell of prevailing his lawyers have to sue to be able to have access to the trove of communications to see if Gruden is singled out or simply the only big enough idiot to be saying stuff like this committing career suicide in advance .

If Gruden lawyers can’t produce similar communications from other people he’s got no case. His comment are not defensible or employable in 2021 .

[RiverDog]

I’m no lawyer but I’ve needed one but it would seem if Gruden has a snowballs chance in hell of prevailing his lawyers have to sue to be able to have access to the trove of communications to see if Gruden is singled out or simply the only big enough idiot to be saying stuff like this committing career suicide in advance .

If Gruden lawyers can’t produce similar communications from other people he’s got no case. His comment are not defensible or employable in 2021 .

I'm not so sure. Gruden's lawyers can probably get access to the same emails, some 650,000 of them that WFT provided their hired investigator with, but I doubt that they'll be allowed to run barefoot through the communications of the other 31 teams. If something were to pop up, say a conversation between Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones, something the league through the investigator knew about but did not pursue, then Gruden would have a case.

[Hawktawk]

If the league has relevant communications they will have to produce them . If they don’t he’s got a case . If they are concerned enough about suppressing them they will have a confidential settlement and move on

[c_hawkbob]

Gruden didn't quit, he was fired. It's an important distinction.

Yes, important distinction, might as well get it right:

“I have resigned as Head Coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. I love the Raiders and do not want to be a distraction. Thank you to all the players, coaches, staff, and fans of Raider Nation. I'm sorry, I never meant to hurt anyone.”

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new ... .%E2%80%9D

[RiverDog]

Gruden didn't quit, he was fired. It's an important distinction.

Yes, important distinction, might as well get it right:

“I have resigned as Head Coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. I love the Raiders and do not want to be a distraction. Thank you to all the players, coaches, staff, and fans of Raider Nation. I'm sorry, I never meant to hurt anyone.”

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new ... .%E2%80%9D[/quote]

Ahh, my apologies to Obi. My bad.

However, I think it's pretty easy to prove that he was forced out.

[Vegaseahawk]

Gruden has filed a lawsuit against Roger Goodell & the NFL.https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/12/sport/jon-gruden-nfl-lawsuit-spt/index.html