Tyler Lockett Extended

[mykc14]

Hawks Extend Lockett: 4 years 69 mil with 37 mil guaranteed.

[c_hawkbob]

Wow, very nice! Keeping Russ' security blanket!

[NorthHawk]

For 1 year anyway. Hopefully it reduces his Cap number this year.

[c_hawkbob]

For 1 year anyway. Hopefully it reduces his Cap number this year.

Well if the $37M guarantee is for 1 year it can't very well reduce this year's cap. I don't understand "for 1 year" ... what are you saying?

[mykc14]

For 1 year anyway. Hopefully it reduces his Cap number this year.

What do you mean? I haven't seen the actually breakdown yet but if it is really a 4 year extension then he should be under contract for the 21,22,23,24,25 seasons...

[Agent 86]

This from The Athletic. Once we see the breakdown, it will make more sense. But this was done to get this year's cap hit lowered from the original $14.9 million it was going to be, not to mention it was well deserved and takes care of a pending UFA at the end of the 2021 season. Dugar predicted a 3 year extension at $51 million, so this deal is just an extra year. Based on that, he figured it would save up to $8 million on the cap for 2021.

Michael-Shawn Dugar, Seahawks beat writer: The extension Lockett signed in August 2018 was set to expire after the 2021 season so Seattle decided to lock him long-term one year early. Lockett was due $11 million in base salary this year with a cap hit of $14.9 million, which is far too high for a team like Seattle that is up against the cap by virtue of all its offseason moves. Even without the full terms of this deal, it's safe to assume this new extension lowers his 2021 cap hit dramatically.

[jshawaii22]

8 million saved? Maybe a deal for KJ is in the works.

[c_hawkbob]

8 million saved? Maybe a deal for KJ is in the works.

The $8M saved is based on this guy's speculated 3 year extension, not the actual deal he wound up getting from the Seahawks.

[Agent 86]

Looks like they also extended Gabe Jackson to free up more money. An offer to KJ is probably out there and ball is in his court.

https://sportsnaut.com/seattle-seahawks-give-gabe-jackson-23-million-extension/

[Agent 86]

The $8M saved is based on this guy's speculated 3 year extension, not the actual deal he wound up getting from the Seahawks.

Correct CBob, sorry if what I put confused anyone. Not sure how the extra year Lockett got compared to Dugar's prediction alters the cap savings, details will come out soon hopefully.

Extending Lockett and Jackson frees up some cash, they could also still extend Wilson, Adams, Diggs and Wagner to free up even more as long as they are comfortable pushing money down the line in order to compete now for a title which I what I have to believe they want to do. Pushing money down the line also makes sense as the Salary Cap should start to increase in the coming year coming out of the pandemic.

[NorthHawk]

Well if the $37M guarantee is for 1 year it can't very well reduce this year's cap. I don't understand "for 1 year" ... what are you saying?

I meant keep Wilson happy for 1 year until he moves on.

[Aseahawkfan]

Nice.

[TriCitySam]

They had a lot of hurdles to jump this offseason, and JS is crossing another off his "to do" list, and has freed up some cap space. Look for a Jamal deal soon.

[Aseahawkfan]

They had a lot of hurdles to jump this offseason, and JS is crossing another off his "to do" list, and has freed up some cap space. Look for a Jamal deal soon.

But we're terrible at managing the cap. Not sure how JS will manage it with his terrible cap management.

[NorthHawk]

They had to do it just to try to keep the same level of talent as they had last year.
It's the same thing again this year with little Cap room to sign Free Agents JS is scrambling to get more room to sign who are now players other teams don't need, want, or
think they are asking too much. The difference this year is we've wasted draft picks and only have 3 left to fill the many holes remaining. JS will probably trade down
but that means after draining the shallow end of the FA pool because we don't have the Cap space, we will be dipping into the shallow end of the Draft pool because we
have few picks.

[Hawk Sista]

I’m thrilled to have Tyler for 5 more years; he’s my kind of Hawk! I like each of the moves Schneider & co have made. It’s not their fault that the cap essentially went backwards by about 26m +. The reduction of the cap to accommodate the loss of revenue related to Covid + the loss of the natural annual escalation. There are a lot of (as in most) teams in cap hell. The ones that aren’t actually suck or don’t have 35 m dollar QBs + other high dollar marquee players. Last season’s waiting around for Clowney was far more frustrating than where we find ourselves this off-season...sans the RW drama, of course.

I would rather have Gabe Jackson for 3 years than a 5th rounder, and Jamal cost what he cost us. I’ll bet 5 years from now, 2/3rds of the players people are Gaga for are busts. Remember our “sure bet” on Aaron Curry? He was the surest bet of that draft and he never could get it at the next level. RW, Bobby (wish they’d restructure him), Jamal, Tyler, and DK are amongst the best at their positions. We either pay them, or we don’t have them. I personally would be ok trading Jamal if we got decent value for him, but I understand why we made the move and I’m ok if we keep him.

We have not gotten worse. I’d argue we are a tick or two better on both sides of the ball (hated to lose Griffey, but we knew it would happen) and we aren’t in camp yet. There will surely be some talent available after the draft as teams excise themselves of talent and the dough associated w/ them. I’m not sure where all the hand wringing is coming from, unless we are still thinking they will deal RW. If not, R E L A X!

[c_hawkbob]

I agree on all counts Sis!

[obiken]

Too much money, I hate to rain on the Parade but we could have gotten one of the FA WR's for less than 17-18 million a year.

[Agent 86]

Too much money, I hate to rain on the Parade but we could have gotten one of the FA WR's for less than 17-18 million a year.

When you rain on every single parade, there is no way you can get away with saying you hate to do it Obi

[mykc14]

Too much money, I hate to rain on the Parade but we could have gotten one of the FA WR's for less than 17-18 million a year.

Which one? A starter? The top FA WR signed for 4 years and 72 million- and he was hurt most of last season (played 5 games). One that that is important to note about our contract with Lockett is that it is an extension. We won't know until we actually see the contract but there's a good chance it is more like a 5 year 70 mil contract which is closer to a 14-15 mil/year deal. There weren't many receivers in the league who can match Lockett's production over the past 3 seasons with over 200 catches, over 3,000 yards and 28 TD's. He has played as a top receiver in the league during that stretch. He's not a top 10 guy but he definitely falls in that 10-20 range.

[obiken]

Which one? A starter? The top FA WR signed for 4 years and 72 million- and he was hurt most of last season (played 5 games). One that that is important to note about our contract with Lockett is that it is an extension. We won't know until we actually see the contract but there's a good chance it is more like a 5 year 70 mil contract which is closer to a 14-15 mil/year deal. There weren't many receivers in the league who can match Lockett's production over the past 3 seasons with over 200 catches, over 3,000 yards and 28 TD's. He has played as a top receiver in the league during that stretch. He's not a top 10 guy but he definitely falls in that 10-20 range.

Maybe your right MK14, I just have a hard time paying over 10 mill a year for a player that is not an All Pro that is good, not great. As River pointed out to me one day, NFL salaries are going up higher than us old guys can imagine!

[Aseahawkfan]

Too much money, I hate to rain on the Parade but we could have gotten one of the FA WR's for less than 17-18 million a year.

Seems a bit high, but Locket is good. I imagine they want to keep the chain mover and the deep threat together. They're a good tandem.

[mykc14]

Maybe your right MK14, I just have a hard time paying over 10 mill a year for a player that is not an All Pro that is good, not great. As River pointed out to me one day, NFL salaries are going up higher than us old guys can imagine!

I know it is hard to swallow, but prices are going up and there's not much we can do about it. I also wouldn't say this is in anyway a team friendly deal or that Lockett took less to stay in Seattle. This is a very fair market type of contract, if not a little high, but the Hawks clearly like him and want him around for his prime! If this contract shocks you, wait until they have to resign DK!!!

[RiverDog]

If this (Lockett's) contract shocks you, wait until they have to resign DK!!!

That be true. This season's contracts were signed during a true anomaly, with the pandemic driving down the salary cap. But that's two years from now, and a lot could happen in two years.

[jshawaii22]

what happens in the next two years is the fans will be back and the new TV contracts start paying in lot more $$$ per year, adding in virtual rights and non-TV rights to new media players in the NFL game as well as taking a cut from legal gambling sites and you'll see the best players getting new, record contracts and maybe some that aren't so good. I see the cap going up over pre-Covid in two years. Adams and DK, if they choose to resign here will not be cheap -- that's a given.

[obiken]

Folks we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I just think WR's are a dime a dozen in the draft, I think paying over 17 million for one is ludicrous. Its not like When River and I were growing up, the colleges are turning out boatloads of them every year now. Get me an average one who can create separation when the blitz is on, and I am good, TL is good but not great to me.

[Aseahawkfan]

Folks we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I just think WR's are a dime a dozen in the draft, I think paying over 17 million for one is ludicrous. Its not like When River and I were growing up, the colleges are turning out boatloads of them every year now. Get me an average one who can create separation when the blitz is on, and I am good, TL is good but not great to me.

What about DK?

[RiverDog]

Folks we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I just think WR's are a dime a dozen in the draft, I think paying over 17 million for one is ludicrous. Its not like When River and I were growing up, the colleges are turning out boatloads of them every year now. Get me an average one who can create separation when the blitz is on, and I am good, TL is good but not great to me.

We might have over paid for Lockett. Like Obi said, his type are a dime a dozen. He's a possession receiver, not the deep, home run, game breaking, defense preoccupation type of receiver that Metcalf is. But he's a proven quantity, a receiver that Russell trusts, so I don't have a problem with the signing. I've seen worse decisions.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

Pricey for sure, but no one in the draft is going to come in and make the impact he can. He has made some very impressive catches and can make defense pay if they focus on Metcalf. Given the lack of depth on the secondary and the unknowns on the defensive line, I think this offense is going to have to score a lot of points. My fingers are crossed that Lockett will be a major player in helping the offense carry the load.

[obiken]

What about DK?

As the Zen Master would say: We'll see.

[Aseahawkfan]

I'm not sure Lockett was worth 17 million a year, but he isn't a dime a dozen. He's a 1000 yard and 9 to 10 TD a year receiver. He was 17 in yards and 8th in TDs in 2020. He was 9th in TDs and 22nd in yards in 2019. That isn't dime a dozen receiver. He's probably a top 15 receiver, definitely a top 20 receiver in the NFL. He's in his prime and can get better. We have one of the best receiver tandems in the league. And we're not even a high volume passing offense, so Tyler and DK are doing this with an offense that likes to run.

Tyler Lockett has taken over games. He's had games where he is nearly unstoppable. He catches almost everything.

Check out ESPN's stat tool for receivers. DK and Lockett stack up quite well to their peers. It's a great receiving tandem. Tyler isn't a dime a dozen by a good measure. That's an underestimation of Tyler's ability. I wish it was that easy to find receivers as good as Tyler.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/player/_/stat/receiving/season/2019/seasontype/2/table/receiving/sort/receivingYards/dir/desc