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Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby trents » Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:38 pm

I see today where the WFT canned Haskins. I hope Pete and John aren't considering picking him up as a bargain basement acquisition. They have a tendency to take on projects and they usually don't work out.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby RiverDog » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:20 pm

trents wrote:I see today where the WFT canned Haskins. I hope Pete and John aren't considering picking him up as a bargain basement acquisition. They have a tendency to take on projects and they usually don't work out.


I don't think you have to worry about us picking up Haskins, at least not this season.

What 'projects' haven't worked out? Gordon?
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby trents » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:47 pm

There were others. Can't think of his name but I think he played college ball at Miami. He was a speedster. Helped us in one big game but turned out to be locker room poison.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby RiverDog » Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:22 am

trents wrote:There were others. Can't think of his name but I think he played college ball at Miami. He was a speedster. Helped us in one big game but turned out to be locker room poison.


The Patriots have had a reputation of bringing in 'projects', too, and it hasn't seemed to have hurt them very much.

Although he's made mistakes, the most notable being the Percy Harvin trade, I've pretty much come to trust Pete's judgement when it comes to his locker room. He seems to have a pretty good insight into the dynamics of various personalities and how they affect the team, which is one of the reasons why Richard Sherman is no longer a Hawk.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:03 am

trents wrote:I see today where the WFT canned Haskins. I hope Pete and John aren't considering picking him up as a bargain basement acquisition. They have a tendency to take on projects and they usually don't work out.


The only reason I can think of for picking him up is if they think they can trade him for a draft pick later on. However, sitting behind Russ means he won't get any playing time to show he has desirable skills.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby trents » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:27 am

Yeah, Percy Harvin. That was the guy I was thinking of. There have been others who gave us some good years but whose head got too big over time like Sherman and Bennet.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby RiverDog » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:40 am

trents wrote:Yeah, Percy Harvin. That was the guy I was thinking of. There have been others who gave us some good years but whose head got too big over time like Sherman and Bennet.


When Sherman and Bennett got too big for their britches, they were sent packing rather quickly, although Sherman's departure had as much to do with a serious injury as it did getting rid of a locker room problem. It's possible that Pete's experience with the Harvin situation made him less tolerant.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby Hawktawk » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:52 am

trents wrote:Yeah, Percy Harvin. That was the guy I was thinking of. There have been others who gave us some good years but whose head got too big over time like Sherman and Bennet.


Percy Harvin earned his money in SB 48. He was the leading rusher in the game with his devastating jet sweeps, He had an insane one handed catch to keep the chains moving and his house call to start the second half was an epic return starting with high pointing the ball 10 feet off the ground and making 3 guys miss within half a second.

Did it "work out" as a trade for Seattle. No. But was it a perfect fit when it absolutely needed to be? yes.

Everyone looks at the game the LOB had which is true but the offense didn't punt till late in the 3rd quarter and Harvin had 3 huge plays in that stretch. The kickoff was the backbreaker and had we had an average return man back there I think they might just blow that pooch kick up and get the ball.

I just think Harvin was the perfect fit for one game that you want to win more than any other.You win your first SB like that there's no regrets personnel wise.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby Hawktawk » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:46 am

trents wrote:I see today where the WFT canned Haskins. I hope Pete and John aren't considering picking him up as a bargain basement acquisition. They have a tendency to take on projects and they usually don't work out.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/re ... r-BB1ck109

Sounds like a lazy airhead. He wont get better most likely. All those people who said the Giants should have taken him look silly now. Not saying Jones is the answer, probably not but this guy has Jamarcus Russell written all over him. Its shocking the number of high draft picks of the last few years at QB are just busts already.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby Hawktawk » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:57 am

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/d ... oss/565470

Lost by 2 TDs and yukking it up after the game...This guy is hopeless.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby Uppercut » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:36 pm

I guess the takeaway from this fiasco is;

Always make sure if you are going to a strip club to wear your mask
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby RiverDog » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:37 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Percy Harvin earned his money in SB 48. He was the leading rusher in the game with his devastating jet sweeps, He had an insane one handed catch to keep the chains moving and his house call to start the second half was an epic return starting with high pointing the ball 10 feet off the ground and making 3 guys miss within half a second.


Harvin ran two jet sweeps. Both went for good yardage but you're making it sound like we were running them all night long.

The score at halftime was 19-0. Not too many teams come back from that deficit. Harvin's KO return to open the 2nd half took a game that was already a 90% probability of winning to a 95%. No single player's presence or absence, whether it be Russell Wilson or Kam Chancellor, would have changed the outcome in that game. It was that dominating. We won 43-8, one of the most lopsided scores in SB history.
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Re: Pete and John, please pass on Haskins

Postby Hawktawk » Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:07 am

RiverDog wrote:Harvin ran two jet sweeps. Both went for good yardage but you're making it sound like we were running them all night long.

The score at halftime was 19-0. Not too many teams come back from that deficit. Harvin's KO return to open the 2nd half took a game that was already a 90% probability of winning to a 95%. No single player's presence or absence, whether it be Russell Wilson or Kam Chancellor, would have changed the outcome in that game. It was that dominating. We won 43-8, one of the most lopsided scores in SB history.


I believe Harvin had 41 yards on 2 carries, a 1 handed grab in the flat and the KO return.That a huge difference between a punt and a score.

I think it was 22-0 at the half but statistics dont account for the fact that Payton Manning and the most prolific scoring offense in NFL history was on the other side.I was nervous as a drug mule going through customs.

And as I say, the pooch kick was very well executed bouncing down in front of Harvin and popping high in the air with coverage streaming down on him. No chance to fair catch. guy leaps for the ball and bang hes gone.

If an average guy stands there flat footed I dont think the ball ever gets to him or at a minimum it and 2 or 3 denver guys get there the same instant and blow him up .At a minimum we start the second half pinned back deep. Then what? nobody knows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9-hK32PIz8

Overall I think EVERYBODY misses the keys of SB 48. Of course we had one of the all time NFL defenses. But Russ had one of the cleanest games ever that didnt net a QB the SB MVP. Great catches were made. The team doesn't punt till late in the third. The best way to beat a hot offense is have them sit and get cold watching sustained drive after sustained drive. It's the best way to keep a defense fresh too. It was an incredible TEAM effort.

That was with Lynch shut down to the tune of 38 yards with over half on one run.

But of all the turning points in the game just watch Manning's face on the sidelines and his brother in the luxury box when Harvin made that electrifying run. Watch the seahawks sidelines. That's when everyone knew it was probably over. It's ridiculous to say Harvin didn't have a huge impact on the game.
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