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by **c_hawkbob** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:46 am

The Niners have shut down their practice facility after a WR tested positive:

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-49ers-s ... 20135.html

Hope our guys stay clear of it!

by **NorthHawk** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:10 pm

That went through my mind as well. The next few days/week will be the key to whether we dodged that bullet.

by **jshawaii22** » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:30 pm

Kendrick Bourne is his name and he played 60 offensive snaps in the game. I wouldn't be surprised to see us shut down facility today, to be safe, while the testing goes on. At a minimum, he had contact with the DB's, LB's and if he ever went through our bench, all the rest of the team and coaches, too.

The saving grace is that he tested negative on game day. It wasn't until he got back to SFO (on the team plane!!!) that he 'became' positive on Tuesday AM's test.

Today is actually day #1 of 3 where his contact with one of our players could infect them, and would have anywhere from 3-5 days to be positive. Scary.
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday are the critical days. I'm trying to research some of this, but there is a lot of conflicting information out there on just how fast the Covid can start transmitting.

by **mykc14** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:38 pm

This seems like a good time to revisit this as most cases of COVID show up within 10 days of exposure. It’s obviously good news that we haven’t had a positive test yet and is encouraging that we haven’t really seen any cases that can be traced back to games. I might be missed something but have any positive cases been traced back to a game? If not that is really good news as I know we have had situations where COVID positive players have played, like Bourne. It seems that the NFL safety protocols are working.

by **RiverDog** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:00 am

mykc14 wrote:This seems like a good time to revisit this as most cases of COVID show up within 10 days of exposure. It’s obviously good news that we haven’t had a positive test yet and is encouraging that we haven’t really seen any cases that can be traced back to games. I might be missed something but have any positive cases been traced back to a game? If not that is really good news as I know we have had situations where COVID positive players have played, like Bourne. It seems that the NFL safety protocols are working.

Thee NFL's protocols appear to have been working very well. They've come down hard on teams and coaches that have not been following them and as a result, we've had very few schedule interruptions. But the worst is yet to come. We're just getting into wintertime with a drier atmosphere and people heading indoors, gatherings around the holidays, and so forth. With new infections topping 100K daily, there's a lot of virus floating around out there. I'd be very surprised if we didn't see more cancelations and rescheduling of games between now and the end of the season.

by **NorthHawk** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:37 am

Yes, I think an 18 week season is a good possibility. They have been planning for that type of contingency but hoping it doesn't come to pass.
I get the feeling it just might.

by **RiverDog** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:26 pm

Well, damn! Not only do I have to spend Thanksgiving without my daughter and son-in-law, but now they've moved the only decent Turkey Day game to Sunday:

After multiple Baltimore Ravens tested positive for COVID-19 this week, the league moved Thursday night's game between the Ravens and undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers to Sunday. The game will be played at 1:15 p.m. ET and broadcast nationally on NBC.

The decision marks the first time since Week 5 that the league has postponed a game due to COVID-19 concerns.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 423379002/

by **jshawaii22** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:23 pm

You mean Dallas vs Washington and whoever Detroit plays aren't any good? Pitt game was our 'dinner game', too. I'm sure NBC and the NFL are pretty pissed at the Raven coach that broke protocol. Big $$$$ loss in ad revenue to the NFL to put that game on the Sunday 1pm rotation with a bunch of other games.

by **RiverDog** » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:59 am

jshawaii22 wrote:You mean Dallas vs Washington and whoever Detroit plays aren't any good? Pitt game was our 'dinner game', too. I'm sure NBC and the NFL are pretty pissed at the Raven coach that broke protocol. Big $$$$ loss in ad revenue to the NFL to put that game on the Sunday 1pm rotation with a bunch of other games.

Yea, no kidding. Houston is that random team playing the forever toothless Lions, 3-7 vs. 4-6. Then we get to see some mascot-less Washington Whatevers play the pride of the NFC East in Jerruah's World. Some Thanksgiving.

It looks like the Ravens are throwing their strength and conditioning coach under the bus:

The Baltimore Ravens disciplined a strength and conditioning coach on Wednesday for not reporting symptoms and not consistently wearing a mask or tracking device, according to NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/25/ravens-di ... -outbreak/

by **RiverDog** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:10 am

Looks like the game the Steelers-Ravens game that they bumped from Thanksgiving to Sunday is going to get bumped even further. More Ravens players, including last year's MVP Lamar Jackson, have tested positive:

Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson has tested positive for COVID-19, according to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport.

Jackson is one of four positive tests from the Ravens on Thursday, per ESPN's Adam Schefter. Their Week 12 contest vs. Pittsburgh is now in jeopardy.

Five Ravens players and four staffers previously tested positive for COVID-19 over the last week. Running backs Mark Ingram and J.K. Dobbins and defensive linemen Brandon Williams and Calais Campbell are among those who tested positive, and they will not play against the Steelers in Week 12.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/11/27/lamar ... oronavirus

by **c_hawkbob** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:38 pm

Moved to Tuesday now, which cancels the Thursday night game for next week.

by **RiverDog** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:50 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:Moved to Tuesday now, which cancels the Thursday night game for next week.

And there's even more musical chairs. That Thursday night game you referred to, Cowboys vs. Ravens, has been moved to Monday, so we'll have another MNF double header:

In addition to the Ravers-Steelers game being moved to Tuesday, changes are coming to the Week 13 schedule. The Ravens were scheduled to host the Dallas Cowboys on Thursday, Dec. 3 for "Thursday Night Football" -- but that game has been moved to Monday, Dec. 7 with a 5 p.m. ET start time, the team said in a tweet. However, it's The game will be broadcast on Fox. The Steelers will still host the Washington Football team in Week 13 as scheduled -- Sunday, Dec. 6 at 1 p.m. ET.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/stee ... day-night/

Some of the Steelers players were complaining about "losing" their bye week (they actually had it moved to Week 4) when the Titans had an outbreak and losing their short bye, the originally scheduled Thanksgiving night game that was moved to Sunday, when the Ravens had an outbreak. Now they have to play on Tuesday then have a short week before playing Washington on Sunday the 6th.

by **jshawaii22** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:51 pm

and now, the NFL is ordering all teams to close their facilities next Monday and Tuesday (except for Philly & 'Hawks) in anticipation of Thanksgiving infections and wants all players to have the '3 day' test after the games on Sunday before teams reopen on Wednesday. It does help that the players seem to be understanding. (Pittsburgh's whining not withstanding- LOL to them)

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/11/27/nfl-orders-all-facilities-to-close-next-monday-and-tuesday/

Looking on the bright side, we now have a Tuesday night game next week. Nothing else to do but watch it.

Talk about skating on thin ice as we get deeper into the season. Putting the players/coaches and other essentials into 'The 'bubble' will be considered very soon, especially for teams going to the playoffs.

by **RiverDog** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:18 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:and now, the NFL is ordering all teams to close their facilities next Monday and Tuesday (except for Philly & 'Hawks) in anticipation of Thanksgiving infections and wants all players to have the '3 day' test after the games on Sunday before teams reopen on Wednesday. It does help that the players seem to be understanding. (Pittsburgh's whining not withstanding- LOL to them)

Talk about skating on thin ice as we get deeper into the season. Putting the players/coaches and other essentials into 'The 'bubble' will be considered very soon, especially for teams going to the playoffs.

Bravo for the NFL! They've come too far, completing over half the season without any significant disruptions, to blow it now because a handful of irresponsible individuals break protocol. Put the entire league in a bubble until the Super Bowl.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/11/27/nfl-orders-all-facilities-to-close-next-monday-and-tuesday/

jshawaii22 wrote:Looking on the bright side, we now have a Tuesday night game next week. Nothing else to do but watch it.

Yeah, and considering how my wife and I have been self isolating, the NFL is about the only thing that appears normal. CFB is screwed up and CBK doesn't look to be any better. If I have to live under a rock, at least let me watch some sports from time to time.

by **jshawaii22** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:51 pm

OT -- RD, the Ducks laid an egg at the end of the game tonight and the Pac10 is officially DOA for the college championships. Rose Bowl for the Huskies if they win out?

by **obiken** » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:13 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:OT -- RD, the Ducks laid an egg at the end of the game tonight and the Pac10 is officially DOA for the college championships. Rose Bowl for the Huskies if they win out?

Its a mess because they lost games due to covid. What knocks out the P-12 is USC had a game cancelled. Oregon-Wa game will decide the pac 12 Wa wins north IF they win out.

by **RiverDog** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:08 am

jshawaii22 wrote:OT -- RD, the Ducks laid an egg at the end of the game tonight and the Pac10 is officially DOA for the college championships. Rose Bowl for the Huskies if they win out?

If UW wins out? You mean if they win less than half the games on a typical schedule with no conference championship game?

Although I did watch part of the OSU-UO game last night, I can't get excited over a 5 game CFB season where some of the most iconic rivalries, like the Apple Cup, don't occur. It's the nightmare scenario that I was afraid was going to happen to the NFL.

They really do need to put all the teams in a bubble for the next two months. The virus is out of control and is only going to get worse. It's no different than a sailor or soldier on deployment.

There's also a controversy brewing as a testing shortage and backlog of test results is occurring nation wide. People are starting to ask questions as to how we, as a society, can allow multi million dollar athletes performing a non essential job access to daily tests with rapid results while a hospital nurse treating COVID patients has to wait 5 days for her result.

by **Hawktawk** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:43 am

RiverDog wrote:They really do need to put all the teams in a bubble for the next two months. The virus is out of control and is only going to get worse. It's no different than a sailor or soldier on deployment.

There's also a controversy brewing as a testing shortage and backlog of test results is occurring nation wide. People are starting to ask questions as to how we, as a society, can allow multi million dollar athletes performing a non essential job access to daily tests with rapid results while a hospital nurse treating COVID patients has to wait 5 days for her result.

This disease is spreading uncontrolled. They need to be in a bubble for sure. Also when it comes to rapid testing how about all the politicians who have utterly failed in this response in the wealthiest nation on the plant, the most scientifically advanced. How about them too

by **RiverDog** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:26 am

Hawktawk wrote:Also when it comes to rapid testing how about all the politicians who have utterly failed in this response in the wealthiest nation on the plant, the most scientifically advanced. How about them too

Two reasons:

1. The news report I referred to questioned the preferential treatment given to professional athletes, not politicians. Besides, they probably consider most politicians to be "essential".

2. This is the Seahawks Forum. If you want to talk about "all the politicians who have utterly failed in this response in the wealthiest nation on the planet", then I suggest you take it up in the Off Topic forum. It does not belong in this one.

by **jshawaii22** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:26 pm

Here's an interesting tidbit from Santa Clara, home of the 49ers. Does 'home field' even matter right now?

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/11/28/49ers-stanford-san-jose-state-home-games-jeopardy-coronavirus

Oh, and Denver has all 3 QB's out tomorrow, so they have no QB on their roster to face the Saints. No further word on this game.

by **c_hawkbob** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:40 pm

https://sports.yahoo.com/broncos-quarte ... 37712.html

Damn!

by **RiverDog** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:40 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/broncos-quarterback-mess-only-themselves-005337712.html

Damn!

Can't let this observation slip past:

It’s their own fault for not having a backup, however. They could have, as we suggested months ago, kept a quarterback in quarantine. They didn’t. Now, they’ll have to go forward on Sunday without a quarterback.

If nothing else, it will be a valuable lesson for all other teams regarding the importance of ensuring that players take all COVID-19 protocols seriously. For the Broncos and G.M. John Elway, playing without a quarterback isn’t exactly unprecedented. After all, the Broncos once had Tim Tebow as their starter.

by **RiverDog** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:11 am

In anticipation to the expected post Thanksgiving surge in cases, the league is forcing all NFL teams to close their facilities on Monday and Tuesday:

In anticipation of the expected spike in COVID-19 cases after Thanksgiving weekend, the NFL has issued a mandate for next week: All facilities will close on Monday and Tuesday.

“In response to the continuous increase in positivity rates throughout the country, as well as our understanding that a number of players and staff celebrated the Thanksgiving holiday with out-of-town guests, all in-person team activities on Monday, November 30 and Tuesday, December 1 will be prohibited,” Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote to all teams in a Friday memo, a copy of which PFT has obtained.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... d-tuesday/

There's no more bye weeks to shuffle around, so the league is running out of scheduling options. The only thing left in their bag if tricks is going into a bubble, and I don't understand why they haven't taken the plunge yet.

by **TriCitySam** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:51 pm

I know Pete mentioned they have someone who is managing the Seahawk protocols - and that they are already practicing the new protocols that the NFL is putting in place this week. Not surprisingly, they appear to be on point.

Denver Broncos not so much: Elway, CEO Joe Ellis and then all 4 QB's. Interestingly, Fangio indicated they don't plan on doing anything different, "just need to follow protocols".

by **jshawaii22** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:36 pm

I have to admit at this point, that I will give the NFL Office and Goodell and staff a 'job well done' for at least thinking outside the box this year.
They just moved the Pitt vs Ravens game to Wednesday night to give the Raven players a day to prepare and potentially get about 10 players back.

Trying to keep the season together is a tough game right now, and so far the league has managed not to screw it up, and without forcing teams into a bubble before the playoffs start.

by **RiverDog** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:51 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:I have to admit at this point, that I will give the NFL Office and Goodell and staff a 'job well done' for at least thinking outside the box this year.
They just moved the Pitt vs Ravens game to Wednesday night to give the Raven players a day to prepare and potentially get about 10 players back.

Trying to keep the season together is a tough game right now, and so far the league has managed not to screw it up, and without forcing teams into a bubble before the playoffs start.

I'm still not completely clear as to why they couldn't have postponed the Saints-Broncos game, but I agree that the NFL has done a great job managing the season. To be frank, I didn't think it was possible, especially considering that they opted not to go with a bubble. Better knock on wood, though, as we still have a couple months and the worst part of the pandemic to make it through.

by **mykc14** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:19 pm

RiverDog wrote:I'm still not completely clear as to why they couldn't have postponed the Saints-Broncos game,

Yeah, thats a bit of a head scratcher. They also wouldn't let them waive an obscure rule which doesn't allow coaches to play. The rule was created so that teams couldn't hide players on their coaching roster, but it seems like they could have waived that rule for this game. It seems pretty clear that they wanted to send a message to the teams and the Broncos presented the perfect opportunity. I doubt the NFL would have treated this the same way had it been Patrick Mahomes who was considered a 'close contact' to a backup QB who got COVID. They would have found a way around it.

by **RiverDog** » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:41 pm

mykc14 wrote:Yeah, thats a bit of a head scratcher. They also wouldn't let them waive an obscure rule which doesn't allow coaches to play. The rule was created so that teams couldn't hide players on their coaching roster, but it seems like they could have waived that rule for this game. It seems pretty clear that they wanted to send a message to the teams and the Broncos presented the perfect opportunity. I doubt the NFL would have treated this the same way had it been Patrick Mahomes who was considered a 'close contact' to a backup QB who got COVID. They would have found a way around it.

They've re-scheduled the Ravens-Steelers game 3 times now, and of course, that involves last year's MVP and a team that is undefeated, but they won't delay a game for a day that involves a sub-.500 team? After what happened to the Broncos, I don't want to hear a peep out of those whiny arse Steelers players/fans.

I had read or heard somewhere that the Broncos weren't completely transparent with the league regarding the activities of their quarterback group, so that might have had something to do with it.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:31 am

The Steelers-Ravens game scheduled for tomorrow has a weird start time for a weekday game, 12:40pm PT. They must be trying to mitigate the effects of a short week. I can't see them intentionally turning down a big prime time audience.

No TNF this week.

We have another MNF double header next Monday 12/7, Washington vs. Steelers at 2pm PT and Bills-Niners at 5:15.

Tuesday the 8th we'll get another nationally televised game, Cowpukes vs. Ravens in Prime Time.

Of course, that could all change.

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:32 am

Covid is starting to have a larger effect as the season grinds on.
I fear it will wreak havoc before it's all said and done with an outside chance we don't finish the season.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:47 am

NorthHawk wrote:Covid is starting to have a larger effect as the season grinds on. I fear it will wreak havoc before it's all said and done with an outside chance we don't finish the season.

The Seahawks are the only team in the NFL not to have had a player test positive, and after reading this article, I can see why we're ahead of the curve. Here's a snippet:

This past weekend the NFL informed teams they had to shut down their facilities and conduct only virtual meetings on Monday and Tuesday. That’s a preemptive measure presuming another spike across the league in positive tests among players. The league has reason to believe many players hosted guests over Thanksgiving weekend.

The NFL’s latest coronavirus edict does not apply to the Seahawks. And not just because they played Monday night. “The idea is to do everything virtually, team functions,” Carroll said. “That would mean Monday (after a Sunday game) we would meet virtually—which we already do anyway. So it’s not going to change us, at all.

“It’s not going to affect us at all. We’ve already been doing what they are asking.”

Plus, the Seahawks have since July had procedures in place encouraging players to tell them when they were having visitors come see them, and who those visitors will be. The team pays to have those visitors come to Seahawks headquarters to get their own COVID-19 testing in tents separate and in another parking lot from the trailers in which the players get tested each morning.

“There were just a couple requests about that (for Thanksgiving), so we didn’t have much activity there,” Carroll said. “Our guys for the most part made the choice to stay apart from their friends and family and stuff at this time—which is great. That’s the easiest way to take care of any concerns.”

They were, um, strongly encouraged to do that, by the way.

“We know people can drop in at any time. So we still make that available to our players, to their family and friends and extended group,” Carroll said, “to make sure that we can take them all in and that they are safe.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/gr ... uxbndlbing

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:19 am

It makes sense to do that with Pete being in the high risk age group probably along with some other coaches.
It also is a good plan considering the money they are playing the players and already having to deal with injuries. What team needs
to add a virus to the injury roll where players aren't available to play? It's hard enough keeping them healthy as it is.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:28 am

NorthHawk wrote:It makes sense to do that with Pete being in the high risk age group probably along with some other coaches.

Yup. Plus it's not just players and coaches. There are scores of other individuals on the team's staff, and a number of those folks may be in a high risk age group or have an underlying condition that places them in a high risk group. And as it is with all of us, it's not just about protecting ourselves and those around us, it's about protecting our community.

I was afraid that at the start of the season when Pete got fined for not wearing his mask that he was dismissive of the threat and didn't respect the virus, but it seems that the exact opposite is true. The Seahawks have done, and continue to do, an exemplary job dealing with the crisis. Pete has obviously been able to convince people on his team and staff that everyone had to follow the protocols if they wanted not only to compete for a Super Bowl, but to protect their loved ones and each other.

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:11 pm

Let's hope we can get through to next year without any cases and the NFL with no more in the future.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:36 pm

NorthHawk wrote:Let's hope we can get through to next year without any cases and the NFL with no more in the future.

It's going to be tough not to have any major disruptions without going into a bubble. The virus is exploding in nearly the entire country and a cooler, drier environment make the conditions ripe for transmission, so the odds of a team experiencing an outbreak are going to increase. Even the types of precautions and discipline that the Hawks have shown might not be enough.

Maybe we can give one of the vaccines to all the coaches and players on active rosters of all the teams. Boy, wouldn't that cause an uproar.

by **RiverDog** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:34 am

I saw an interesting article from our old friend the Seattle PI regarding the precautions the Hawks are taking so they don't suffer the same fate the Broncos did when all 3 of their QB's were sidelined by COVID protocols:

Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll revealed Wednesday that he’s taking new precautions in light of the Broncos last week seeing their entire quarterback room wiped out due to COVID-19 protocol, saying that the team is now isolating third-stringer Danny Etling.

Etling, who’s on the practice squad, has started working out apart from Russell Wilson and backup Geno Smith and is attending all of the team’s meetings virtually, Carroll said. The changes have been made so that Etling won’t be considered a close contact if, “heaven forbid,” COVID-19 reaches the Seahawks’ quarterback room.

“I hate to say we had to wait to see something bad happen, but we have stepped forward in terms of taking care of Danny to make sure that he is apart from the other QBs,” Carroll told reporters. “So if we had, heaven forbid, some kind of a circumstance, he would not be considered connected to those guys. So in essence he is separated from the QBs for now. And he has done a fantastic job to this point where we trust that he can go to all the meetings, all of them virtually, stay with us, he'll work out and all that kind of stuff, apart from those guys and we'll keep him available. So that is our guy.”

https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/seahaw ... 771094.php

In the same article, Pete said that Carlos Dunlap's injured foot is "nothing serious".

by **Uppercut** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:47 am

The team that manages Covid the best in the next two months will win the SB

Unless the Hawks play the Steelers then it will have to go to Big Ben compliments of the officials

by **RiverDog** » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:56 am

Uppercut wrote:The team that manages Covid the best in the next two months will win the SB

Unless the Hawks play the Steelers then it will have to go to Big Ben compliments of the officials

I'm not convinced that the Steelers are for real. They've played a relatively weak schedule that includes the mighty NFC East and, despite their incessant whining, caught a huge break when Lamar Jackson was sidelined with COVID. IMO KC, Buffalo, and Tennessee are all better teams. The '72 Dolphins can rest easy.

by **jshawaii22** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:29 pm

Covid finally hit the Seahawks today. We are now the 'last' team in the NFL to have a player positive with Bryan Mone, who's on IR anyway.

Defensive tackle Bryan Mone was placed on the reserve/COVID-list. Mone is currently on injured reserve and is the first Seahawks player to go on the list during the regular season.

Here's the link with some other not so good news.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

by **TriCitySam** » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:12 pm

RiverDog wrote:I'm not convinced that the Steelers are for real. They've played a relatively weak schedule that includes the mighty NFC East and, despite their incessant whining, caught a huge break when Lamar Jackson was sidelined with COVID. IMO KC, Buffalo, and Tennessee are all better teams. The '72 Dolphins can rest easy.

I wouldn’t discount the Steelers. They have a pretty soft schedule, Bills are only tough game, maybe Browns. So if Ben stays healthy, they got a shot.

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