Just Don't Use the Keyboard or give Interviews...

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

I agree the timing is terrible, but then why ask that question? I'm reminded of when the homosexual panel judge asked the pageant contestant what she thought about gay marriage. The only answer that doesn't set anything off is agreement with the one who asked the question; even avoiding an answer will put one in a negative light, perhaps less so. It is a sad state of affairs that one can't voice their own opinion without getting railroaded into changing it.

[RiverDog]

I agree the timing is terrible, but then why ask that question? I'm reminded of when the homosexual panel judge asked the pageant contestant what she thought about gay marriage. The only answer that doesn't set anything off is agreement with the one who asked the question; even avoiding an answer will put one in a negative light, perhaps less so. It is a sad state of affairs that one can't voice their own opinion without getting railroaded into changing it.

Yea, I have no doubt that Brees was set up by a reporter looking for a story. But it's not like he's is a Bambi in the Woods. The man has been in the limelight for over a decade and should know how to handle tricky questions posed by nosy reporters. There's lots of diplomatic ways to duck a question. Politicians do it all the time.

[c_hawkbob]

He's a football player though, not an politician.

As a whole it's no big deal, he put his foot in his mouth, got called out for it and removed said foot.

More disappointing to me is how his teammates jumped him on social media instead of giving him a call or text and saying what they had to say. That kinda stuff goes on in locker rooms and within families all the time, but you call the guy an a-hole to his face and get the problem worked out between yourselves before taking it public.

[c_hawkbob]

Oops.

[mykc14]

More disappointing to me is how his teammates jumped him on social media instead of giving him a call or text and saying what they had to say. That kinda stuff goes on in locker rooms and within families all the time, but you call the guy an a-hole to his face and get the problem worked out between yourselves before taking it public.

That’s my point as well. Obviously I don’t know him personally but I’ve never heard anything but good about him outside of football and it seems like he would have earned the benefit of the doubt to at least have a conversation before being raked over the coals, which isn’t good. Obviously tho players have the right to say what they want but I imagine if any one of his teammates said something he didn’t agree with he would at least talk to them before speaking publicly about. I actually think he wouldn’t speak publicly about it at all..

[NorthHawk]

Brees' comments were incredibly tone deaf at that time. I would have thought he would be more
aware of the emotions of the time when he made that statement.

[mykc14]

Brees' comments were incredibly tone deaf at that time. I would have thought he would be more
aware of the emotions of the time when he made that statement.

I’m not disagreeing, but that’s easy to say when you’re not famous and asked a question like that. In the past few years a comment like that would have been ok. It’s hard to blame him for speaking his feelings. The issue is he should always be able to speak how he feels, the problem is he was under the impression that he could speak his truth without backlash... that is not the case right now. Everybody wants to hear your truth as long as it aligns with how they feel, if it doesn’t you better shut up or lie!!

[jshawaii22]

What a country we've become when someone is stating his personal opinion to love his country and flag can 'put his foot in his mouth' for saying it in public.

[RiverDog]

Brees' comments were incredibly tone deaf at that time. I would have thought he would be more aware of the emotions of the time when he made that statement.

That's my take, too. What he said wasn't outlandish or incredible, it was simply the timing that made it seem so incredibly insensitive. Hopefully his friends and teammates give him a pass, especially considering how he's admitted to his quite human faults.

I agree with Cbob regarding the reaction of his friends and teammates. They should have just reached out to him before going public, give him a chance to reflect. But we're living in some very strange times, with the coronavirus lockdown and the protests over the Floyd murder. The entire nation is on edge.

[trents]

I don't know that I agree Brees' timing was inappropriate. It was appropriate in so far as the context of what is going on now in our nation. I mean, let's say he waited 6 months to say what he said initially. By then most people have moved on. Would it be appropriate to bring it up when it's no longer on people's minds?

[RiverDog]

I don't know that I agree Brees' timing was inappropriate. It was appropriate in so far as the context of what is going on now in our nation. I mean, let's say he waited 6 months to say what he said initially. By then most people have moved on. Would it be appropriate to bring it up when it's no longer on people's minds?

I like what George W. Bush said in one of his rare public statements since leaving office: "It's time for us to listen", and I interpret the "us" as being white people. The emotions are too raw at the moment. I don't think that most people will have moved on in 6 months, not this time. The NFL is likely going to allow players to be able to kneel during the national anthem as Roger Goodell has already said publicly that it was a mistake for the league to oppose the practice. There are debates going on in the highest levels of government about re-organizing police departments. We have a Presidential election coming up in November, and you can bet that the topic will be right up there with the coronavirus as one that will be discussed openly at various rallies, debates, and other forums.

There's going to be plenty of opportunity for all of us to voice our opinions, but it's simply not appropriate for a white person to speak out publicly against it at this moment. It would be like discussing a deceased person's faults on the day of their funeral. I think that Drew Brees realizes that now.

[jshawaii22]

Damn it Pete... didn't you learn anything in the last couple of weeks? Enjoy being dragged through the mud? Your comments about Kap to the Seahawks in '17 and the 'phone call from a coach for advice on Kap ' are being blown up by every talking head... white, black or other. Just Shut Up!!!!

Maybe he can claim it's his 'old age' and his memory of the events in 2017 are a little hazy.

[c_hawkbob]

Nothing he said bothers me.

[RiverDog]

Damn it Pete... didn't you learn anything in the last couple of weeks? Enjoy being dragged through the mud? Your comments about Kap to the Seahawks in '17 and the 'phone call from a coach for advice on Kap ' are being blown up by every talking head... white, black or other. Just Shut Up!!!!

Maybe he can claim it's his 'old age' and his memory of the events in 2017 are a little hazy.

Nothing about what he said bothers me, either, but I don't know what he expects to gain by weighing in like he did. You know the saying: Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool rather than open it and remove all doubt.

[jshawaii22]

Nothing he said bothers me.

The part about getting a call from another coach to inquire about Kap. That is hard to fathom as Pete didn't know Kap except for a couple of hours 3 years ago. Why wouldn't they call one of his coaches in SF who, you know, actually coached him like Tomsula?

Didn't Kap want 10m a year? That would of been the end right there.

[c_hawkbob]

The part about getting a call from another coach to inquire about Kap. That is hard to fathom as Pete didn't know Kap except for a couple of hours 3 years ago. Why wouldn't they call one of his coaches in SF who, you know, actually coached him like Tomsula?

Actually he spent a day with us IIRC, and left on decent terms, and I suppose with the luck Pete's had with Russ whoever is asking is asking for similarities and differences as Russ is so much more of a known quantity.

Didn't Kap want 10m a year? That would of been the end right there.

I don't know the number but I do recall it being starter money and Pete said he (I think honestly) thought he'd get a starting gig somewhere so we didn't pursue it.