c_hawkbob's annual Three Deep Mock

[c_hawkbob]

Sorry for not getting this out till 2 weeks before the draft but I was really hoping to get some insight from lists (that never came) of prospects we might be having those E-visits with this year ... But, lack of information or not, here we go (and yes, I watched a lot of Utes games this year):

Scoring:
- 1 point for each player that we draft
- 1 point for the correct round drafted
- 1/2 point for each player from your mock that we sign as UDFA’s
- 1/2 point for a player you have listed first in a round.

Here's mine:

Round 1 (27)
1- Yetur Gross-Matos, Edge, Penn St
2- KLavon Chaisson, Edge, LSU
3- Austin Jackson, OT, USC

Round 2 (59)
1- Ashtyn Davis, S, Cal Very much a Pete Carroll type project, wildly athletic but raw
2- Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
3- AJ Terrell, CB, Clemson

Round 2 (64)
1- Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU
2- Josh Uche, Edge, Michigan
3- Laviska Shenault, WR, Colorado

Round 3 (101)
1- Hakeem Adeniji, OT, Kansas
2- Bradley Anae, DE/OLB, Utah
3- Zack Moss, RB, Utah

Round 4 (133)
1- Terrell Burgess, CB, Utah
2- DaVon Hamilton, DT, Ohio St
3- Harrison Hand, CB, Temple

Round 4 (144)
1- Anfernee Jennings, EDGE, Alabama
2- Calvin Throckmorton, OT, Oregon
3- Jeremy Chinn, S, Southern Illinois

Round 6 (214)
1- Binjimen Victor, WR, Ohio St
2- Javelin Guidry, CB, Utah
3- Logan Stenberg, G, Kentucky

[TriCitySam]

Well, I haven't done one of these before....so I'll be lucky to get a point:

TCS MOCK:

Round 1 (27)
1- Zach Braun, Edge/LB, Wisconsin
2- Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah
3- Ross Blacklock, Edge TCU

Round 2 (59)
1- Jonathan Taylor, RB, Michigan
2- Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan
3- Terrell Lewis, Edge, Alabama

Round 2 (64)
1- Jordon Elliot, DT, Ole Miss
2- John Uche, Edge, Michigan
3- Reggie Robinson, CB, Tulsa

Round 3 (101)
1- Nick Harris, C, UW
2- Isaiah Wilson, T, Georgia
3- Antonio Gibson, RB, Memphis

Round 4 (133)
1- Jabari Zuniga, Edge, Florida
2- Akeem Davis-Gaither, LB, Appalachian St
3- Collin Johnson, WR, Texas

Round 4 (144)
1- Ben Bartch, T, St. Johns
2- Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin
3- Leki Fotu, DI, Utah

Round 6 (214)
1- Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford
2- Anthony Gordon, QB, WSU
3- Netane Muti, G, Fresno St.

[obiken]

I know I am just a mindless Duck but I think Jake Hanson would make a really good Center as a 3rd or 4th rounder. He was the highest graded Center in the Country. Only committed one penalty out of 750 snaps.

[TriCitySam]

"He was the highest graded Center in the Country."

What report was that in? I know most of what I read had him down a ways.

[RiverDog]

I'll have you know that I spent 3 hours on this POS, so no making fun of it!

Round 1 (27)
1- A.J. Epenesa, Edge, Iowa
2- Josh Jones, OT, Houston
3- Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama

Round 2 (59)
1- Ross Blacklock, DT, TCU
2- Neville Galimore, DT, Oklahoma
3- Joshua Uche, Edge, Michigan

Round 2 (64)
1- Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia
2- Ashtyn Davis, S, Cal
3- Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado

Round 3 (101)
1- Zach Moss, RB, Utah
2- Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
3- Logan Stenberg, G, Kentucky

Round 4 (133)
1- Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA
2- Alton Robinson, Edge, Syracuse
3- Darrynton Evans, RB, App State

Round 4 (144)
1- Antoine Brooks, Jr, S, Maryland
2- Brandon Jones, S, Texas
3- Nick Coe, Edge, Auburn

Round 6 (214)
1- Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island
2- John Hightower, WR, Boise State
3- Javaris Davis, CB, Auburn

[c_hawkbob]

I'll have you know that I spent 3 hours on this POS, so no making fun of it!

Never!

[TriCitySam]

Well, I heard last night a GM say the the mock drafts this year are the farthest off they've ever been due to the lack of pro-days and opportunities for the high end "analyst" guys to visit with scouts....so I don't think there's any room for anybody to feel cocky. If I get a point, I'll be happy.

[RiverDog]

Well, I heard last night a GM say the the mock drafts this year are the farthest off they've ever been due to the lack of pro-days and opportunities for the high end "analyst" guys to visit with scouts....so I don't think there's any room for anybody to feel cocky. If I get a point, I'll be happy.

I don't care how many points I get, so long as I get one more point than Cbob!

[c_hawkbob]

LOL! Good luck

[Hawk Sista]

As is always the case, i know i have prospects in the wrong round. Just trying to get points by picking seahawky dudes.

Round 1 (27) (trade down into the second round for more picks - as is forever the case)
1- Raekwon Davis, DT, Alabama
2- Josh Uche, Edge, Michigan
3- Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan

Round 2 (59)
1- Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State
2- Jabari Zuniga, Edge, Florida
3- Julian Okwara, Edge, Notre Dame

Round 2 (64)
1- Robert Hunt, T, Louisiana-Lafayette
2- Bryan Edwards, WR, University of South Carolina
3- Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame

Round 3 (101)
1- Amik Robertson, S, Louisiana Tech
2- Darrell Taylor, Edge, Tennessee
3- Prince Tega Wanogho, T, Auburn

Round 4 (133)
1- Terrell Burgess, CB, Utah
2- Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin
3- Logan Wilson, LB, Wyoming

Round 4 (144)
1- Willie Gay Jr., LB, Mississippi State
2- Teair Tart, DT, FIU
3- Joe Reed, WR/KR, Virginia

Round 6 (214)
1- Michael Warren II, RB, Cincinnati
2- Jalen Hurts, QB, OK
3- Steven Montez, QB, Colorado

[NorthHawk]

Hey Sis, haven't heard from you for a while.
Hope everything is going OK considering what's going on these days.
It's tough to find the Hawktypes in any draft and the last couple of years Pete
or John have said they want to get more speed and become the bully again.
It doesn't seem to have happened yet, but maybe this year we can get a little of both.

My Draft - thus ensuring these players will not become Seahawks:

R1 (27)
Raekwon Davis, DL Alabama
Jabari Zuniga, DE Florida
Robert Hunt, OL Louisiana

R2 (59)
Prince Tega Wanagho, OT Auburn
Josh Uche, DE Michigan
Julian Okwara, DE Notre Dame

R2 (64)
Justin Madubuike, DL Texas A&M
Chase Claypool, WR Notre Dame
Willie Gay Jr., LB Mississippi St

R3 (101)
AJ Dillon, RB Boston College
Marlon Davidson, DL Auburn
Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise St

R4 (133)
Lloyd Cushenberry, C LSU
Malik Harrison, LB Ohio St
Van Jefferson, WR Florida

R4 (144)
Davon Hamilton, DT Ohio St
Darrell Taylor, DE Tennessee
Bryan Edwards, WR South Carolina

R6 (214)
Raequan Williams, DL Michigan St
Joe Reed WR, Virginia
Teair Tart DT Florida International

[govandals]

1.27
Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin
Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
Darrell Taylor, Edge, Tennessee

2.59
Hakeem Adeniji, OT/OG, Kansas
Robert Hunt, OT/OG Louisiana-Lafayette
Willie Gay Jr, LB, Miss St.

2.64
Julian Okwara, Edge, Notre Dame
Jabari Zuniga, Edge, Florida
Zack Moss, RB, Utah

3.101
DaVon Hamilton, DT, Ohio St
Leki Fotu, DT, Utah
Saahdiq Charles, OT/G, LSU

4.133
Cam Akers, RB, Florida St
Jonathan Greenard, DE, Florida
Alex Highsmith, Edge, Charlotte

4.144
Van Jefferson, WR, Florida
Matt Peart, OT, UConn
AJ Dillon, RB, Boston College

6.214
Madre Harper, CB, S. Illinois
Trevis Gipson, DE, Tulsa
Azur Kamara, DE, Kansas

My favorite player in this draft is Jonathan Taylor. I think he will be gone by 27, but I couldn't resist putting him on my list.

[RiverDog]

My favorite player in this draft is Jonathan Taylor. I think he will be gone by 27, but I couldn't resist putting him on my list.

I like Taylor, too, but I just can't see any team spending their #1 on a running back twice in three years.

[govandals]

I like Taylor, too, but I just can't see any team spending their #1 on a running back twice in three years.[/quote]


Why should choosing Penny 2 years ago prevent them from drafting a 1st round RB? Penny is coming off a major knee injury, likely to start the year on the pup, and hasn't proven to be an effective between the tackles runner. Carson has a lengthy history injury, coming off a hip injury and is a FA after this season. I'd say RB is a big need. Taylor is right in their wheelhouse for size with great testing numbers.

Evidently, Rob Staton over at SDB agrees. Go check out his final 2020 mock he posted about 2 hours after I posted mine above. He lays out why Taylor COULD be the first pick.

All this being said, I now predict they will not draft a rb at all and will sigh Isaiah Crowell after the draft!! Haha!!

[RiverDog]

I like Taylor, too, but I just can't see any team spending their #1 on a running back twice in three years.

Why should choosing Penny 2 years ago prevent them from drafting a 1st round RB?

The odds. How many teams have taken a RB with their #1 in two out of three drafts? I haven't researched it, but my guess is that there's not very many.

Running back is not considered a high value position, and not many go in the first round. Taylor is not a consensus top of his class RB. He could easily drop into the 2nd round where we currently have two selections.

Carson and Penny have both made substantial progress in their rehabs. Additionally, there's a strong likelihood that the season will be delayed, abbreviated, or even canceled, which would give them even more time to recover.

Since we haven't signed either Clowney or Griffen, there's going to be even more pressure to take an edge rusher with our top pick, perhaps even trade up if someone we really like is within our reach.

[govandals]

Taylor is my draft crush! Pete likes his RB's, Taylor will fit this offense well. I would do cartwheels if we got him with 2.59, or after a small trade up.

PCJS have hedged their bets with Irvin and Mayowa. It's possible, but they won't be forced to take an edge with their first pick, and there is no way they trade up for an edge in the first round. No one worth trading up for. Overall, this is a weak DE class, few have met PCJS athletic requirements.

After listening to PCJS yesterday, I think they go BPA with the first pick. Could be DE, DT, RB. Maybe even a receiver??

[NorthHawk]

The odds. How many teams have taken a RB with their #1 in two out of three drafts? I haven't researched it, but my guess is that there's not very many.

Pete and John do things differently than most teams. What are the odds that the Seahawks would trade down 8 consecutive drafts and probably 9 this year?
With the Seahawks setting their identity as a tough running team, I think it's much more probable that they select a RB very early - maybe their first pick
after factoring in their top 3 RBs ended up on IR and Carson will be on the last year of his contract. It wouldn't surprise me if they took 2 RBs this year.

[RiverDog]

The odds. How many teams have taken a RB with their #1 in two out of three drafts? I haven't researched it, but my guess is that there's not very many.

Pete and John do things differently than most teams. What are the odds that the Seahawks would trade down 8 consecutive drafts and probably 9 this year?

First off, we've also traded up a time or two, as we did last year when we moved up to get Metcalf. Secondly, our history of trading down makes using that #1 pick on a RB even less likely as we could very well move out of the first round.

With the Seahawks setting their identity as a tough running team, I think it's much more probable that they select a RB very early - maybe their first pick after factoring in their top 3 RBs ended up on IR and Carson will be on the last year of his contract. It wouldn't surprise me if they took 2 RBs this year.

Perhaps. You're guess is as good as mine. All I was doing was explaining my logic as to why I didn't put Jonathan Taylor down as a possible first round pick.

I have us waiting until the 3rd round and taking Zach Moss of Utah. He might be a better value pick considering that who ever we take, if we do pick a RB, could very easily be 3rd on the depth chart through no fault of their own.

[NorthHawk]

Moss is a lot like Carson, but he has an injury history, too. I'm not sure they would want another injury history at RB.
I heard a comment in a podcast where one of the commenters said they heard Carsons' injury is worse than has been stated.
They didn't say anything more, so I'll put it down to only being a rumor.
In any event, we'll probably see in about 30 hours or so.

[c_hawkbob]

In any event, we'll probably see in about 30 hours or so.

I see what you did there.

[RiverDog]

Moss is a lot like Carson, but he has an injury history, too. I'm not sure they would want another injury history at RB. I heard a comment in a podcast where one of the commenters said they heard Carsons' injury is worse than has been stated. They didn't say anything more, so I'll put it down to only being a rumor. In any event, we'll probably see in about 30 hours or so.

There's conflicting reports. Here's one that I read, dated April 16th:

During this offseason, teammates Chris Carson (hip) and Rashaad Penny (torn ACL) have both been rehabbing from injuries that ended their 2019 seasons prematurely. While both running backs have made substantial progress so far, there’s still no guarantee either will be 100 percent when Seattle opens training camp.

While Carson appears to be closer to returning than Penny, delaying next season would provide each player with additional recovery time and likely improve their chances of being successful in 2020. In addition, a shorter season would also put less of a toll on both of their bodies and lower the possibility of either of them suffering another serious injury.

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/news/ch ... l-schedule

But as you say, there's been some rumblings on social media about Carson's health. Pete has been quoted recently that both Carson and Penny's recovery "seems like everything is going really well as far as we can tell.''

You can't put a lot of faith in any statement from coaches or GM's when we're this close to the draft. It's a poker game.

[RiverDog]

I like Taylor, too, but I just can't see any team spending their #1 on a running back twice in three years.

Why should choosing Penny 2 years ago prevent them from drafting a 1st round RB?

The odds. How many teams have taken a RB with their #1 in two out of three drafts? I haven't researched it, but my guess is that there's not very many.

Running back is not considered a high value position, and not many go in the first round. Taylor is not a consensus top of his class RB. He could easily drop into the 2nd round where we currently have two selections.

Carson and Penny have both made substantial progress in their rehabs. Additionally, there's a strong likelihood that the season will be delayed, abbreviated, or even canceled, which would give them even more time to recover.

Since we haven't signed either Clowney or Griffen, there's going to be even more pressure to take an edge rusher with our top pick, perhaps even trade up if someone we really like is within our reach.

With the Seahawks setting their identity as a tough running team, I think it's much more probable that they select a RB very early - maybe their first pick.

I guess that settles that. It took until the last pick of Round 1 for the first RB to get taken, so Taylor is still on the board. If he's still there by our next pick at #59, we might see him holding up a blue and green jersey this evening.

But so, too, are a number of those DE's/Edge players that some of us had pegged as a #1 or #2 selection. I'm guessing that we trade out of one of our two #2's. Any takers?

[NorthHawk]

I think not being able to trade down threw a wrench into the works for JS.
They probably hoped to trade down twice into the top of the 2nd and still
get Brooks later, but since they couldn't they took the best player on their board.
Taylor should go pretty early tonight - and it won't be here but who knows if they
look at this draft and decide there is a player they really want and trade up in the
2nd with one of their 4th round picks?

[RiverDog]

I think not being able to trade down threw a wrench into the works for JS. They probably hoped to trade down twice into the top of the 2nd and still get Brooks later, but since they couldn't they took the best player on their board.

Taylor should go pretty early tonight - and it won't be here but who knows if they look at this draft and decide there is a player they really want and trade up in the 2nd with one of their 4th round picks?

Your logic sounds reasonable. I saw JS commenting the other day on how the changes in this year's draft was making it difficult to maintain the same degree if communication they've had with other teams on draft day. Perhaps that played a role.

Taylor might hang around awhile. There was only one RB taken in the first round so there's a lot of options for teams with a need at that position. IMO if either of the edge guys from Penn State and Iowa are available by the time our pick comes that we'll pull the trigger on one of them.

[c_hawkbob]

Scoring through day 2: Sis, North and Govandals are all tied at 1 point for Darrell Taylor. Congrats! and good luck today for the rest of us!

*I am finding a few misspelled names, as I c&p from the draft tracker to a word document to search for correct picks a misspell will cost you points, so if you think you didn't get points due check your spelling.

[c_hawkbob]

And we have a new leader! congrats TCS for scoring 1.5 points with Colby Parkinson!

[c_hawkbob]

Again a new Leader as Riv scores 2 points for Alton Robinson!

[c_hawkbob]

And we have a tie:

Riv scored 2 points for player and round with Alton Robinson and TCS score 1.5 for Colby Parkinson and added .5 for Anthony Gordon as a UDFA!

Sis, North and Goandals all scored a point as well in what has to be the lowest scoring year yet. Thanks for playing!

[Hawk Sista]

What!!! River & Tri City won??? But look at how many they missed.

[NorthHawk]

Thanks Bob. It's always an interesting exercise even if we whiff on most of the picks.
This was a real tough year for me as I struggle with who I want them to pick and who I think they might pick.
Then they take a player as their first pick out of the blue (to me anyway) at a position they addressed last year.
But they say they don't draft for any other team than their own, so we should expect some surprises along the way.

[Hawk Sista]

Thank you Bobby. It’s always fun!

[RiverDog]

Thanks for organizing this, Cbob. It added some interest to the draft for me that would have otherwise been lacking.

And guess who scored more points than who?

[TriCitySam]

What!!! River & Tri City won??? But look at how many they missed.

Well, if you can't be good be lucky....and it's not about how many we missed its about how FEW JS & PC miss

[c_hawkbob]

Well, if you can't be good be lucky....and it's not about how many we missed its about how FEW JS & PC miss

True that!

[TriCitySam]

Thanks for doing the mock C-Bob!

[c_hawkbob]

All y'all are more than welcome!

[govandals]

Thanks c_hawkbob for doing this. It's always a lot of fun!