Draft Thread

[Aseahawkfan]

I've been thinking that the Defense that got us to the big game twice had become a step slow. Maybe this is the first move toward bringing back some of that speed. I like that Bwags is older and wiser along with KJ but they seem to be getting beat a little when it comes to longer coverage routes.

Most of what I've read is you want a young defense and an experienced offense. Our offense is run by a seasoned QB with weapons and we seem able to manufacture a run game. We could use some young, fierce energy on the defense that we been missing since Kam retired and Earl and Sherm left. Say what you want about the individual players, they brought attitude, competitiveness, and fierceness to this team that we lost when they left.

[govandals]

Good day 2 for the Hawks!

I really like the Taylor pick, he is the best combo of need/fit. Good burst, ability to bend, closing speed. Looks a little like Frank Clark. They didn't get screwed on the trade value, either. They moved up to get THEIR guy. I like it!

I like Damien Lewis as a player, just not the pick so much. With all the other positional needs, I'm a little surprised they took another guard. I thought for sure it was gonna be a DT, RB or WR. Even a project OT would've made sense to me (Prince Tega W.?)

However, Lewis is a classic powerful roadgrader Solari loves. Better in pass pro than credited for. Gave up 5 sacks and 13 pressures in 2 years. Fluker is on the hotseat now, we'll see if Lewis can take his job this year.

Excited for day 3!

[RiverDog]

As usual, the Hawks showed just how unpredictable they are when it comes to the draft, and like nearly every year, I came away scratching my head, wondering if we made a bunch of reaches on players we could have gotten much lower. I about fell out of my chair when I saw that we traded up in the 2nd. But then again, a few minutes later they did something that I fully expected them to do: They traded down with one of their two closely bunched 2nd round picks.

I was a little surprised that we took a guard with our newly acquired 3rd round pick as I was expecting us to take that center from UW.

It's probably not very accurate to try to read between the lines as to what their picks are telling us about the current condition of our team, but nevertheless, it does pose some interesting questions. Is the fact that we didn't take a RB early an indication that Carson and/or Penny's recoveries are going well? Can one of the reasons we sought to trade up to get an edge rusher an indication that we're not expecting Clowney or Griffen to be in Seahawk blue?

[NorthHawk]

As I read it, we gave up #101 and #59 to move to 48. Using the draft pick trade value chart, 48 is worth 420, so we gave up 59 (worth 310) and 101 (worth 96). So no robbery occured, it was a fair deal for us.

I thought we had given up our 3rd and early 4th to move up 11 spots. It's not as bad as I had thought.


We have 4 picks left so far today. We need a RB, but there isn't much quality left and there is a shortage of WR's too.
With Russ wanting a superstar, he's out of luck this year. There might be a DL that could work and maybe a CB or NCB.
I'm hoping they find some gems that we don't know about.

[NorthHawk]

As usual, the Hawks showed just how unpredictable they are when it comes to the draft, and like nearly every year, I came away scratching my head, wondering if we made a bunch of reaches on players we could have gotten much lower. I about fell out of my chair when I saw that we traded up in the 2nd. But then again, a few minutes later they did something that I fully expected them to do: They traded down with one of their two closely bunched 2nd round picks.

I was a little surprised that we took a guard with our newly acquired 3rd round pick as I was expecting us to take that center from UW.

It's probably not very accurate to try to read between the lines as to what their picks are telling us about the current condition of our team, but nevertheless, it does pose some interesting questions. Is the fact that we didn't take a RB early an indication that Carson and/or Penny's recoveries are going well? Can one of the reasons we sought to trade up to get an edge rusher an indication that we're not expecting Clowney or Griffen to be in Seahawk blue?

I'm not sure we can read anything into it. People want teams to take BPA and they have done so. JS said as much with the first pick and they moved up for their 2nd pick. Damien Lewis was a good selection in the 3rd as well
even though we have 18 OL on the roster. It seems protecting Russ is a priority, but the Run game does that as well and there aren't many if any RBs left. The FA signings on OL seem to me to have been done in case we couldn't
get someone in the draft or just for competition.

[RiverDog]

I'm not sure we can read anything into it. People want teams to take BPA and they have done so. JS said as much with the first pick and they moved up for their 2nd pick. Damien Lewis was a good selection in the 3rd as well even though we have 18 OL on the roster. It seems protecting Russ is a priority, but the Run game does that as well and there aren't many if any RBs left. The FA signings on OL seem to me to have been done in case we couldn't get someone in the draft or just for competition.

The offensive line is shaping up nicely. It will be interesting to see what happens with Justin Britt. The Hawks were penciling in newly acquired guard B.J. Finney at center, but he's supposedly a better fit at guard.

Although a reliable run blocker, Fluker had more than his fair share of problems in pass protection last season. Drafting a guard that has a reputation as a good pass blocker, having blocked for Joe Burrow and national champ LSU, is a shot across the bow.

We have two picks in the 4th round today. Do we choose one of the several tight ends that are still on the board?

[NorthHawk]

I think TE is a possibility along with DL. There are a number of WRs and RBs left, but they don't seem to fit the Seahawk profile.
There might be someone they MUST have that's left so maybe even trade up early to get him, but that
would be out of character for JS with only 7 total picks in the draft at this point. I don't see him ending
the draft with 6 selections, rather I think he trades down again to end up with 8 or 9.

The interior of the OL looks to be pretty solid and young now with Haynes and Lewis along with Jones. I worry about RT and longer
term LT as Shell probably isn't much of a change at RT and Brown is getting nearer the end of his career at LT.

[RiverDog]

I think TE is a possibility along with DL. There are a number of WRs and RBs left, but they don't seem to fit the Seahawk profile.
There might be someone they MUST have that's left so maybe even trade up early to get him, but that
would be out of character for JS with only 7 total picks in the draft at this point. I don't see him ending
the draft with 6 selections, rather I think he trades down again to end up with 8 or 9.

The interior of the OL looks to be pretty solid and young now with Haynes and Lewis along with Jones. I worry about RT and longer
term LT as Shell probably isn't much of a change at RT and Brown is getting nearer the end of his career at LT.

I agree that it's very unlikely that we'll be trading up this morning, and there's a good chance that we could trade down with one of our two 4th round selections. They're within 11 spots of each other, so if there's someone they like at #133, I could see them rolling the dice by trading down and hoping he's still on the board at #144.

[c_hawkbob]

Love the Alton Robinson pick! great value here.

[NorthHawk]

Just 1 pick left. It seems odd that JS didn’t trade down on day 3. Either they wanted the players that
were there or nobody wanted our selections.

[c_hawkbob]

Evidently DeeJay Dallas is the best run blocking RB in the draft ... just what the Doctor ordered!

[c_hawkbob]

So Arizona forfeited their pick at 153?! LOL!

[RiverDog]

We drafted a Will Dissly look-alike at 133 in the 4th. Tight end Colby Parkinson out of Stanford, known as a solid blocking tight end that according to PFF, didn't drop a pass in the 2019 season. At 6'7". he'll be the biggest target Russell has had since Jimmy Graham.

https://sports.mynorthwest.com/839514/s ... 4th-round/

If Dissly, Carson, and Penny come back healthy and with the new additions on our offensive line, our running game looks to be much improved.

So now we have Dissly, Olson, Hollister, Willson, and Parkinson on the roster. No way we carry 5 tight ends, so do we trade one of them, say Hollister, for a 2021 5th or 6th rounder?

[mykc14]

We drafted a Will Dissly look-alike at 133 in the 4th. Tight end Colby Parkinson out of Stanford, known as a solid blocking tight end that according to PFF, didn't drop a pass in the 2019 season. At 6'7". he'll be the biggest target Russell has had since Jimmy Graham.

https://sports.mynorthwest.com/839514/s ... 4th-round/

If Dissly, Carson, and Penny come back healthy and with the new additions on our offensive line, our running game looks to be much improved.

So now we have Dissly, Olson, Hollister, Willson, and Parkinson on the roster. No way we carry 5 tight ends, so do we trade one of them, say Hollister, for a 2021 5th or 6th rounder?

Who knows, but this is why it is frustrating to me that we put a 2nd round tender on him and are currently paying him like 3 mil...

[jshawaii22]

Or... Dissley's injury is much more problematic then we know. He got tore up really good. Olson is old and was signed as a "just-in-case" and I think it's Luke's job on the line, not Hollister.

[mykc14]

Or... Dissley's injury is much more problematic then we know. He got tore up really good. Olson is old and was signed as a "just-in-case" and I think it's Luke's job on the line, not Hollister.

7 mil for a just in case guy?? I do agree Dissley obviously has major injury concerns.

[mykc14]

We drafted a Will Dissly look-alike at 133 in the 4th. Tight end Colby Parkinson out of Stanford, known as a solid blocking tight end that according to PFF, didn't drop a pass in the 2019 season. At 6'7". he'll be the biggest target Russell has had since Jimmy Graham.

https://sports.mynorthwest.com/839514/s ... 4th-round/

If Dissly, Carson, and Penny come back healthy and with the new additions on our offensive line, our running game looks to be much improved.

So now we have Dissly, Olson, Hollister, Willson, and Parkinson on the roster. No way we carry 5 tight ends, so do we trade one of them, say Hollister, for a 2021 5th or 6th rounder?

That article is interesting because everything I read after he was drafted said he wasn’t a very good run blocker and was more of a ‘big slot.’ He definitely is leaner than a guy like Dissley at 6’7” 251. Dissley on the other hand is like 6’3” 265. It’s hard for me to imagine Parkinson’s frame as an inline blocker. To me he’s more Jimmy Graham than Will Dissley, except Jimmy outweighs Parkinson by 15 lbs...

[jshawaii22]

Or... Dissley's injury is much more problematic then we know. He got tore up really good. Olson is old and was signed as a "just-in-case" and I think it's Luke's job on the line, not Hollister.

7 mil for a just in case guy?? I do agree Dissley obviously has major injury concerns.

Yes, unless you're telling me the team KNEW Dissley wan't coming back and Olson was signed as the starter. If the team assumed Dissley was going to be OK, then Olsen was signed as a back-up or #2 TE, or a Just-in-case signing.

[Aseahawkfan]

So Arizona forfeited their pick at 153?! LOL!

What does that mean?

[mykc14]

Or... Dissley's injury is much more problematic then we know. He got tore up really good. Olson is old and was signed as a "just-in-case" and I think it's Luke's job on the line, not

Yes, unless you're telling me the team KNEW Dissley wan't coming back and Olson was signed as the starter. If the team assumed Dissley was going to be OK, then Olsen was signed as a back-up or #2 TE, or a Just-in-case signing.

I don’t think there is any chance Olson gets cut. He has 5.5 mil of his 6.9 mil contact guaranteed. Obviously there is the chance that Dissley’s injury is worse than they are reporting. My guess is that the plan is to play them both a lot using Olson as more of an H-back. When he was signed I envisioned a lot of 11 personnel with Lockett and Metcalf at WR Dissley at TE, Carson at RB, and Olson at H-Back/ slot.

[RiverDog]

So Arizona forfeited their pick at 153?! LOL!

What does that mean?

I wasn't watching, but assume that it means that the Cards didn't get their pick in on time and had to forfeit it.

[mykc14]

I wasn't watching, but assume that it means that the Cards didn't get their pick in on time and had to forfeit it.

I certainly could have missed something as I’m not watching but I know they lost a 5th round pick in this draft because they selected somebody in the 5th round of the supplemental draft.

[mykc14]

Im pretty sure in the draft if you miss your pick you just move to the next pick.

[c_hawkbob]

Im pretty sure in the draft if you miss your pick you just move to the next pick.

I don't think so, I know that used to be the case but the Cards didn't take another pick until # 202 in the next round. You miss your pick the draft moves on without you evidently.

[c_hawkbob]

Well that seems to be it for us, we pick WR Freddie Swain at the end of the 6th round and currently have no other picks, so barring a trade, now we wait for UDFA's.

[NorthHawk]

I don’t think there is any chance Olson gets cut. He has 5.5 mil of his 6.9 mil contact guaranteed. Obviously there is the chance that Dissley’s injury is worse than they are reporting. My guess is that the plan is to play them both a lot using Olson as more of an H-back. When he was signed I envisioned a lot of 11 personnel with Lockett and Metcalf at WR Dissley at TE, Carson at RB, and Olson at H-Back/ slot.

Olson is a short term , 1 or 2 year signing. The draft pick is not unless he gets cut.

[NorthHawk]

JS traded back into the 7th to select another TE, Stephen Sullivan from LSU.

[c_hawkbob]

Not sure how we got a 7th round pick but we just took another TE! Stephen Sullivan at pick #251.

[NorthHawk]

Next years pick, I guess.
Going to be an interesting competition at TE.

[RiverDog]

Not sure how we got a 7th round pick but we just took another TE! Stephen Sullivan at pick #251.

We traded with Miami, not sure of the terms.

[c_hawkbob]

Next years pick, I guess.
Going to be an interesting competition at TE.

Yeah that's gonna be a crowded TE room.

[RiverDog]

So to sum things up, here's our 2020 draft class:

1-27 Jordy Brooks, LB, 6'1"/245, Texas Tech
2-49 Darrell Taylor, DE, 6'4"/255, Tennessee
3-69 Damien Lewis, OG, 6"3"/332, LSU
4-133 Colby Parkinson, TE, 6'7"/251, Stanford
4-144 DeeJay Dallas, RB, 5'10"/220, Miami
5-148 Alton Robinson, DE, 6'4"/260, Syracuse
6-214 Freddie Swain, WR, 6'0"/197, Florida
7-251 Stephen Sullivan, TE, 6'5"/248, LSU

There were three draft day trades:

We swapped places with the Jets in the 2nd, moving up 11 spots to select Taylor and gave them our 3rd round, #101 overall. We traded down in the 2nd round, giving the Panthers our 64th overall for their 3rd round #69 overall and their 5th round, #148 overall. We acquired the 7th round #251 overall pick in a trade with Miami, terms currently unavailable.

[Uppercut]

Hawks about to unveil an brand new innovative offense playing 8 TE's all at the same time. LOL

I thought the online draft was better than a physical locations cause we got to see in everone's house...

[NorthHawk]

I wonder if the selecting 2 TE's means anything other than competition? Maybe they want to go to more 2 TE sets and short passes to take some pressure off of the run game.
Is Dissly having problems recovering? Olsen should be a good mentor for these guys for the time he is here.

[jshawaii22]

We have like 15 offensive lineman and the aforementioned multiple TEs on the 90 man roster. Lucky we have Russell as we only have 1 QB on the roster at the end of the regular draft.

I could see us picking up Andy Dalton, who will be looking for a home in the same way Matty Hass did when he moved on from us to Indy a few years ago.
He was always underpaid at Cincy, so shouldn't come expensive once he's a FA. With the influx of young, talented QB's, not a lot of room for the mid level older ones.

[c_hawkbob]

Eli Mencer, LB, Albany
Anthony Gordon, QB, WSU
Chris Miller, S, Baylor
Gavin Heslop, CB, Stony Brook
Marcus Webb, DT, Troy
Anthony Jones, RB, FIU
Kemah Siverand, CB, Oklahoma State
Seth Dawkins, WR, Louisville
Debione Renfro, CB, Texas A&M
Tyler Mabry, TE, Maryland
Josh Avery, DT, Southeast Missouri State
Aaron Fuller, WR, UW

[RiverDog]

I wonder if the selecting 2 TE's means anything other than competition? Maybe they want to go to more 2 TE sets and short passes to take some pressure off of the run game. Is Dissly having problems recovering? Olsen should be a good mentor for these guys for the time he is here.

I had the same thought. But we have to keep in mind that the tight end is a more valued position in Schott's offense than in most other offenses in the league. Our last pick was at the tail end of the 7th round, a glorified UDFA, so I wouldn't try to read too much into it.

[c_hawkbob]

Our last pick was at the tail end of the 7th round, a glorified UDFA, so I wouldn't try to read too much into it.

That we traded a 6th to get back into the draft and get before he could hit free agency, so, a little more than a glorifies FA.

[RiverDog]

We have like 15 offensive lineman and the aforementioned multiple TEs on the 90 man roster. Lucky we have Russell as we only have 1 QB on the roster at the end of the regular draft.

I could see us picking up Andy Dalton, who will be looking for a home in the same way Matty Hass did when he moved on from us to Indy a few years ago. He was always underpaid at Cincy, so shouldn't come expensive once he's a FA. With the influx of young, talented QB's, not a lot of room for the mid level older ones.

There's going to be a lot of veteran QB's looking for another gig. Not that they'll end up with us, but Cam Newton and Jamis Winston are still unsigned, and when they find a landing spot, they're going to displace a serviceable QB.

[RiverDog]

Our last pick was at the tail end of the 7th round, a glorified UDFA, so I wouldn't try to read too much into it.

That we traded a 6th to get back into the draft and get before he could hit free agency, so, a little more than a glorifies FA.

I hadn't heard the terms of the trade. Thanks for the wake-up call.