Niner Game

[Hawktawk]

Just read on ESPN.com that Wilson's performance, though sub par compared to what he usually does, earned him the highest QB rating of anyone who has played against the niners this season. That was a pleasant surprise and puts it in perspective.

You are incorrect. Kyler Murray from the 9ers next opponent AZ hung up a 130!!!! rating on the 9er stout defense as they narrowly hung on to beat AZ by 3, 28-25. Might be an interesting rematch. GO AZ!!!

Russ did what the great ones always do Monday night. Played a C to D game by his standards but still made enough plays with his mind, arm and feet to gut out a tough win. The guy never folds no matter how bad it looks.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

You are absolutely correct, River. I just don't have any sympathy for the 49ers not making it happen with 2 possessions in OT. Not saying you do, either.

[RiverDog]

In hindsight it made no difference. SF had 2 chances to win the game. Plus he called heads anyway.

That's not the way to look at it. Who knows what would have happened had SF possessed the ball more times than we did?

If it weren't for the sudden death aspect of overtime, you could say that the coin toss is irrelevant, or at least not as relevant as it is now. Colleges, for example, guarantees each team equal possessions in OT, so you could say that their coin toss to begin OT isn't as relevant as it is in the NFL, although there is a strategic advantage in choosing defense first due to knowing what you have to do on your possession.

[RiverDog]

You are absolutely correct, River. I just don't have any sympathy for the 49ers not making it happen with 2 possessions in OT. Not saying you do, either.

Any time you have a reasonable chance to end the game with a makeable FG, you can't displace the blame by complaining about losing a coin toss, at least not in my book.

[idhawkman]

Any time you have a reasonable chance to end the game with a makeable FG, you can't displace the blame by complaining about losing a coin toss, at least not in my book.

Ever since they backed the extra point up, what is a "makeable" FG? The normal routine 30-40 yard FGs are not as automatic as they were before they moved it back. I used to think that if we got the ball anywhere inside the 30 that we would come away with at least 3 points. I don't think that way anymore.

[RiverDog]

Any time you have a reasonable chance to end the game with a makeable FG, you can't displace the blame by complaining about losing a coin toss, at least not in my book.

Ever since they backed the extra point up, what is a "makeable" FG? The normal routine 30-40 yard FGs are not as automatic as they were before they moved it back. I used to think that if we got the ball anywhere inside the 30 that we would come away with at least 3 points. I don't think that way anymore.

So far in 2019, NFL kickers have made 50% of FG attempts at 50+ yards, so my definition of "makeable" would be anything under 55 yards.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?mode=K

[idhawkman]

So far in 2019, NFL kickers have made 50% of FG attempts at 50+ yards, so my definition of "makeable" would be anything under 55 yards.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?mode=K

So that link doesn't show percentages for the various different lengths and I didn't sum up the different areas so I'll take your word for it. What I do know is that PATs are no longer a "given" and because of that, more doubt has crept into kickers minds and their 30-39 and 40-49 yard tries. Therefore, without knowing the percentage of the other lengths, I stand by my comment of "what is makeable now?"

In other words, what percentage "IS" makeable in your book? 51% or greater? 55%? 60%? etc.

[RiverDog]

So far in 2019, NFL kickers have made 50% of FG attempts at 50+ yards, so my definition of "makeable" would be anything under 55 yards.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/stats.html?mode=K

So that link doesn't show percentages for the various different lengths and I didn't sum up the different areas so I'll take your word for it. What I do know is that PATs are no longer a "given" and because of that, more doubt has crept into kickers minds and their 30-39 and 40-49 yard tries. Therefore, without knowing the percentage of the other lengths, I stand by my comment of "what is makeable now?"

In other words, what percentage "IS" makeable in your book? 51% or greater? 55%? 60%? etc.

You have to do a little arithmetic, but the information on made/missed FG's by 10 yard increments is in the link I provided.

It's obviously a subjective term and it would depend on the weather, turf, altitude, et al, but I would think that it would certainly include a 50/50 chance, so using the information I provided, anything under 55 yards in normal conditions would IMO be "makeable."

[idhawkman]

You have to do a little arithmetic, but the information on made/missed FG's by 10 yard increments is in the link I provided.

It's obviously a subjective term and it would depend on the weather, turf, altitude, et al, but I would think that it would certainly include a 50/50 chance, so using the information I provided, anything under 55 yards in normal conditions would IMO be "makeable."

Thank you for the clarification.

[Hawktawk]

Niners were dominant again tonight. Its OK we still control our destiny against them and they have a true murderers row coming up.

[RiverDog]

Niners were dominant again tonight. Its OK we still control our destiny against them and they have a true murderers row coming up.

Not sure what you meant by dominant "again", but they certainly weren't dominant in the 3 games prior to this one tonight.

But they did serve notice to the rest of the league that they're for real. That was a good old fashioned arse kicking last night.

[NorthHawk]

The niners played well and the packer played poorly. It makes for a perception of dominance that might
not be factual. They are a very good team, though and capable of going deep into the playoffs if not the SB.

[Hawk Sista]

I hear your point North. BUT, dayum! That Niner D looks scary.

[c_hawkbob]

I hear your point North. BUT, dayum! That Niner D looks scary.

Hi Sis! You've had me worried the last few weeks, hope everything's OK.

[Hawk Sista]

Hi there. All is well. Been traveling to more funerals than I’d like, but all is well. Thank you!

[RiverDog]

Hi there. All is well. Been traveling to more funerals than I’d like, but all is well. Thank you!

Great news! You had me worried, too, and I'm relieved that you're doing well. Welcome back!

[NorthHawk]

We missed you Sis.

I'm sorry you had to attend a bunch of funerals, but I'm glad to read your posts again.

[Hawk Sista]

I missed you guys too! Glad to be here and to be 9-2.