Josh Gordon is a Seahawk

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

Gordon released by Patriots and picked up by Seahawks:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/279 ... d-seahawks

Could be a good move, but it is hard to count on Gordon.

[obiken]

He is wounded, and won’t be normal till next year.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

Wondering how bad that knee injury is. Reports say it is minor and the release from IR was because he is supposedly "healthy".

Edit: Also talk of lack of work ethic.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... a-concern/

Perhaps Pere Carroll thinks he can revive Gordon for one year ala Big Mike Williams. Still a low risk move to add a potentially legit weapon.

[RiverDog]

I gotta believe that if he were worth anything, he'd still be on the Patriots roster. But it's not costing us anything, so there's no downside to this move.

[Feez]

I like this move. he supposedly was healthy before the Pats put him on the IR. I think them trading for Sanu made him expendable and more of a project than the Pats were willing to take on. one thing I know for sure is Defenses won't be able to overlook him like they can with Brown or Moore out there so this could open Lockett and Metcalf up if nothing else. he would also be a decent deep threat from time to time. a slight gamble but better than at least 2 who we had on the roster before today

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

There's something about the way they released him. He had a minor injury and was placed on IR under a lesser designation. Once he passed a physical, he had to be released from the way it sounds. I wouldn't put it past the Patriots to have used something like this to release a player for underperforming while gaining greater benefit.

Edit: Doesn't seem like an actual "had to" release him. The Patriots had two other players on IR that they wanted to return to the roster. All players on IR get a roster exemption, so, coupled with the talk of work ethic, Belichek didn't think he was worth it to sacrifice one of the other two to return or someone else on the roster. They also had picked up Sanu. Still, low risk move that could pay off.

[jshawaii22]

I wish we had traded for AJ Green, but with only 1/2 a season, I guess Gordon is not a big risk. I just see Percy all over this... and in a state with open Pot laws, you're asking for trouble.

Who do we release next Monday? Brown?

[c_hawkbob]

Wilson wanted him, if for no other reason; I'm glad to welcome him aboard. If Russ thinks he can square him away I'm willing to let him try.

[trents]

I wish we had traded for AJ Green, but with only 1/2 a season, I guess Gordon is not a big risk. I just see Percy all over this... and in a state with open Pot laws, you're asking for trouble.

Who do we release next Monday? Brown?

This^

[RiverDog]

I wish we had traded for AJ Green, but with only 1/2 a season, I guess Gordon is not a big risk. I just see Percy all over this... and in a state with open Pot laws, you're asking for trouble.

The two situations aren't even remotely similar. We had a helluva lot more invested in Harvin than we will have with Gordon, so I don't think Pete will hesitate to cut bait with Gordon like he did with Harvin. If Gordon screws this up, it's likely his last shot to stay in the league. The ball's in his court, not Pete's.

[jshawaii22]

What do you mean RD that they're not 'remotely similar'? They both have a history of being locker room cancers. Both have gone through suspensions before coming here. Both should of been far more successful. The biggest difference is Harvin had a better 'career' before coming to Seattle, while Gordon has left many teams wondering what if.

[Aseahawkfan]

I think RD means in terms of risk/reward. We traded a 1st round pick for Harvin. We picked up Gordon on waivers. We have no serious attachment to Gordon. He's a cheap shot in the dark to pick up a good but troubled talent.

[Hawktawk]

Well pot is also legal in mass. So take that off the table. I just see it as weird. Much like Bennett if you don’t fit in with the Pats you won’t make it anywhere else. I guess I agree with the low risk but something like 17 other teams let the guy go past and the hawks were the only team to pounce ? Odd. I have zero confidence in this move till proven otherwise .

[obiken]

Once a cocoa puff, always a cocoa puff!

[RiverDog]

I think RD means in terms of risk/reward. We traded a 1st round pick for Harvin. We picked up Gordon on waivers. We have no serious attachment to Gordon. He's a cheap shot in the dark to pick up a good but troubled talent.

That's exactly what I mean. Harvin was a huge gamble simply because of what we were investing in him, ie a first round draft pick and a huge contract. Additionally, Harvin came to us with this big chip on his shoulder whereas Gordon, by virtue of being released, has to have his tail between his legs knowing that this is in all likelihood his last stop on his way out the door.

And because Pete has had the experience with Harvin as well as guys like Bennett, Sherman, et al, he's more likely to cut bait with Gordon than holding onto some belief that he can succeed where others have failed.

[NorthHawk]

I think it's a worthwhile gamble at this point.
There's no Comp Pick ramification and he's been considered a good team mate by other players
other than his substance abuse issues.
He's not like Antonio Brown who it's been said we were checking out before signing Gordon
Brown is a locker room cancer, more like Harvin.

It may be Gordon's last chance at the NFL, an I hope he makes the best of it for his own sake if
not ours. If he does stay on the straight and narrow, we could have a 3 headed monster at WR
with Lockett, Metcalf, and Gordon.

We'll see how it works out.

[obiken]

We'll see how it works out.

Nope, Once a cocoa puff, always a cocoa puff!

[jshawaii22]

He's ready to go according to Pete. So, let Josh be a decoy for a week and take Richard Sherman out of the game. Put DK on the other side and Tyler in the slot and let Russell rip it for 4 qtrs. We'll need to score 30+ again... at least.

[NorthHawk]

I'm torn as to whether we should start with a deep pass to loosen up the 9ers Defense, or go to short passes and
try to set them up for the deep ball. Given their DL's ability to rush the passer, we may be forced into the short
pass game or screens. At least early.

[jshawaii22]

Our OLine seems to be playing pretty good right now. Hunt has moved right in to center and Russell not being sacked at an alarming rate, even staying in the pocket much more this year.
I have no idea what going to happen this Monday, but given Russell's record on Prime Time games, i don't see us being non-competitive.

[trents]

Niner's offense is average but their defense is is stellar. Jimmy G. is a good game manager but that's all you need with their defense this year.

If somehow the Hawks can put together sustained drives to keep our nominal defense off the field we have a chance.

[jshawaii22]

"sustained drives" that's interesting. Pete's original offense was exactly that. "Game Manager" Russell and Beastmode. Now, our drives are either total success on 5 - 10 plays or it seems to be a 3 and out. We only had 8, 3rd downs against Tampa. Russell dominating when we're having good offense. If we're going to beat SFO, we have to get their defense on their heels, like AZ did.

[idhawkman]

Our OLine seems to be playing pretty good right now. Hunt has moved right in to center and Russell not being sacked at an alarming rate, even staying in the pocket much more this year.
I have no idea what going to happen this Monday, but given Russell's record on Prime Time games, i don't see us being non-competitive.

I rewatched the game yesterday and spent a number of plays watching Hunt specifically. I think he did a tremendous job out there not only on the big heavies in front of him but also the combo blocks and getting to the second level. This will definitely make me watch Britt a little closer when he returns.

[jshawaii22]

Britts advantage is the 'at scrimmage line calls' that he did. He was real good once he took over and our line coach credited him as the 'stabilizer' on the line. Hunt seems to have mastered the art of leverage blocking, which is pretty good for a undersized center.

[idhawkman]

Britts advantage is the 'at scrimmage line calls' that he did. He was real good once he took over and our line coach credited him as the 'stabilizer' on the line. Hunt seems to have mastered the art of leverage blocking, which is pretty good for a undersized center.

Do you really think so? If that is the case, why is Russell having more time to throw and less sacks with Hunt. I haven't looked up the numbers but it just feels like RW is faring pretty well with Hunt in there and much better than when Britt was in there. That's just my gut feel though.