Breaking Down the Clowney Trade

[NorthHawk]

Antonio Brown is a WR. What is it what that position, anyway.

[RiverDog]

Antonio Brown is a WR. What is it what that position, anyway.

Ugh. My bad. I had him mixed up with Laevon Bell with the Jets.

[NorthHawk]

And the saga continues...

According to PFT, the Raiders took away his guarantees so he's now on a week to week payment basis.
He responded by saying he won't play until the guarantees are restored.
PFT also showed a way where he could be put on reserve/left squad list thereby stopping him from playing for some other team.

I think they end up doing something like that and at the end of the year cut him so the team can develop without this BS.
I doubt any team would trade for him given his last 2 years.

[NorthHawk]

And the saga ends with Brown being cut by the Raiders.
Some team might take a chance, but he's not going to make anywhere near the same money.

[RiverDog]

As Obi would say, the guy just tore up his winning lottery ticket. A $50M contract that's now void.

[NorthHawk]

Whatever team signs him (there's always some team willing to take a chance) will in all probability have him on a short leash.
Maybe week to week at a very small (relative) salary.

[RiverDog]

Whatever team signs him (there's always some team willing to take a chance) will in all probability have him on a short leash.
Maybe week to week at a very small (relative) salary.

Let's hope to hell that team isn't the Seahawks.

[NorthHawk]

Do you think they learned with Harvin?
I doubt he comes here, but we are short of experienced receivers and Pete loves the big play he can provide.

[NorthHawk]

No worries about Brown. He signed a 1 year deal with the Pats worth $15 Million and a 9 million signing bonus.
I suspect there are some outs for NE if he acts like a dork again.

[jshawaii22]

He just put 9m in his bank today. Rosenhaus (sp) is a frickin genius
AB can be a 'dork' or anything else and shows that no matter what negative behavior you show, if you're THAT good, someone will pay you.

Sure happened quick. If it wasn't for the 20m AB left behind in Oakland, I would suggest this had been planned out. Maybe AB met Gruden and discovered he didn't have the biggest EGO on the team and didn't like it.

[RiverDog]

Sure happened quick. If it wasn't for the 20m AB left behind in Oakland, I would suggest this had been planned out. Maybe AB met Gruden and discovered he didn't have the biggest EGO on the team and didn't like it.

Boy, you can say that again.

[c_hawkbob]

They took the same flyer on Randy Moss and he kept his trap shut and had a career year with them. Then they let him go anyway ... but for a one year rental with an easy out (there has to be one) it might work out for them again.

[RiverDog]

They took the same flyer on Randy Moss and he kept his trap shut and had a career year with them. Then they let him go anyway ... but for a one year rental with an easy out (there has to be one) it might work out for them again.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Not many teams liked Randy Moss or yearned to have him on their team. Bret Favre once said that he'd never throw him the ball (Favre was reacting to Moss's comment that he takes plays off). If any team or coach can make the Brown signing work, it's the Patriots and Belichek.

[jshawaii22]

I'm sure Belichick talked to AB directly (he's the GM / Coach after all ) and told him if he records one private meeting, conversation including the locker room... he's gone. No exceptions --

Those things can ruin careers -- Hulk Hogan, Donald Sterling come to mind. More then anything else AB did, the publication of private talks was the worst.

Another theory: He practiced with David Carr... couldn't believe how bad he was, then got the call from Tom to come play with him. That's all it took.

[Uppercut]

Ol Bob Kraft will not get a happy ending from this deal

[RiverDog]

I'm sure Belichick talked to AB directly (he's the GM / Coach after all ) and told him if he records one private meeting, conversation including the locker room... he's gone. No exceptions --

Although we can't say conclusively, it's fair to say that a conversation along those lines probably took place.

I doubt Antonio Brown records anymore conversations. It's highly illegal, and he's lucky that Gruden and/or the Raiders aren't pressing charges.

[govandals]

Glad Antonio Brown is not here. Don't need him teaching DK, Ursua and Jennings how to act like a pro. He is the anti-ADB. Let the Pats deal with him, maybe this is Moss 2.0, maybe not. Personally, I think he is batsh*t crazy and needs help.

[Hawktawk]

Glad Antonio Brown is not here. Don't need him teaching DK, Ursua and Jennings how to act like a pro. He is the anti-ADB. Let the Pats deal with him, maybe this is Moss 2.0, maybe not. Personally, I think he is batsh*t crazy and needs help.

Its easy to laugh at a guy like this peeing away 32 million guaranteed acting like an idiot but i think you may have swerved into something here Govandals and i really dont want to go there but what about CTE? 9 years in the league taking hits. The one by Burfict in the playoff game comes to mind that laid him out cold. I hope it's just he's being an ass and nothing more serious.

[NorthHawk]

According to this article, we had interest in Brown. It makes sense on one level because Wilson worked out with Brown in the off season.
I think the Harvin experience meant we didn't offer as much as the Patriots.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/ ... onio-brown

This article suggests there might have been some underhanded goings on prior to his release. The Pats were involved, naturally.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... -saturday/

[RiverDog]

According to this article, we had interest in Brown. It makes sense on one level because Wilson worked out with Brown in the off season.
I think the Harvin experience meant we didn't offer as much as the Patriots.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/ ... onio-brown

This article suggests there might have been some underhanded goings on prior to his release. The Pats were involved, naturally.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... -saturday/

The first sentence in your 2nd link caught my eye:

The Steelers were determined not to trade receiver Antonio Brown to the Patriots or to any other team in the AFC North.

Was there a realignment that I'm not aware of?

[NorthHawk]

And now the distractions begin in NE as Brown is being sued for sexual assault and rape.

It couldn’t happen to a better organization.

[obiken]

And now the distractions begin in NE as Brown is being sued for sexual assault and rape.

It couldn’t happen to a better organization.

Doesnt matter, they have plenty as it is. AB just makes it easier, thats all.

[RiverDog]

And now the distractions begin in NE as Brown is being sued for sexual assault and rape.

It couldn’t happen to a better organization.

Yup, and the league has said they'll be investigating.