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Re: Seahawks News

Postby RiverDog » Thu May 09, 2019 4:13 pm

It's truly the end of an era now that Baldwin and Chancellor are both officially done. Who's left from our SB teams besides Russell and Wagner?
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby jshawaii22 » Thu May 09, 2019 7:16 pm

#50 KJ Wright, Pete and JS, too.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby RiverDog » Thu May 09, 2019 7:20 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:#50 KJ Wright, Pete and JS, too.


I forgot about KJ. Good call.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Thu May 09, 2019 8:22 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:#50 KJ Wright, Pete and JS, too.

RiverDog wrote:I forgot about KJ. Good call.

Time for new leaders, new identity(s) to step up and take over. I wouldn't mind seeing the offense take the lead for a few years as our new identity coupled with a solid but maybe not dominant defense.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby MackStrongIsMyHero » Thu May 09, 2019 9:33 pm

Just watched a highlight reel of Baldwin. So many amazing plays, so many feels. Well done, Doug, well done.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby obiken » Thu May 09, 2019 10:55 pm

MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:Just watched a highlight reel of Baldwin. So many amazing plays, so many feels. Well done, Doug, well done.


Thanks, Doug, for everything!
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby Agent 86 » Sat May 11, 2019 7:37 pm

Seahawks expected to receive 4 compensatory picks for the 2020 draft. A 3,4,6, and 7.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001030378/article/2020-nfl-draft-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Sat May 11, 2019 7:47 pm

According to the writers calculations there will be 10 3rd round comp picks.
It’s no wonder they are valued.

It also means we will have 11 picks next year having traded a 6th to move back into the
7th round for Ursua(sp).
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby RiverDog » Sun May 12, 2019 5:22 am

NorthHawk wrote:According to the writers calculations there will be 10 3rd round comp picks.
It’s no wonder they are valued.

It also means we will have 11 picks next year having traded a 6th to move back into the
7th round for Ursua(sp).


Don't forget that we also have what is probably a low 2nd round pick in 2020 via the Clark trade (we get the lower of the Chiefs/Niners pick in the 2nd round).

But it's a long time until the 2020 draft, and JS has a knack for trading draft picks for players.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Mon May 13, 2019 6:12 am

There's a lot that can happen with that many picks next year.

1. JS may trade some of them this year to get a player we may need.

2. We may trade UP if JS/PC see a player they really want.

3. We may actually use our picks as they are without trading back. I just don't think we will need 15 picks next year. That's a lot of players and if we need that many it means the players we have now are not getting the job done or we were devastated by injuries.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Mon May 13, 2019 8:04 am

Moving back has its advantages in that the cost is much less, so it's a means to keep the Cap in check.
Many times Front Offices do move back because of this and they see the talent level not changing much
with the new pick. As well, accumulating lower picks even late in R6 and 7 means they don't have to
compete in the UFA market as much where they might get some players they think have a chance
to compete for a spot or maybe be ST standouts.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Mon May 13, 2019 8:06 am

On the News front, there is a report we are signing Geno Smith to compete at Backup QB.
I thought that he could be a good fit when he was drafted, but didn't pan out in NYJets and other stops.
Maybe watching how Russell works and our Offense being less pass oriented, he can be a quality backup.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Mon May 13, 2019 8:46 am

NorthHawk wrote:Moving back has its advantages in that the cost is much less, so it's a means to keep the Cap in check.
Many times Front Offices do move back because of this and they see the talent level not changing much
with the new pick. As well, accumulating lower picks even late in R6 and 7 means they don't have to
compete in the UFA market as much where they might get some players they think have a chance
to compete for a spot or maybe be ST standouts.

I get what you are saying here and don't disagree with it. The question I have is if we move back and we already have 15 picks for next year, how many players are we going to screw by drafting them when they don't have a chance to make the team? I don't think PC and JS will do that to players. I know we want competition but drafting players for depth is one thing - loading up with players who don't have a chance at the depth position is another.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Mon May 13, 2019 9:35 am

There are always those that don't pan out and there are those that are later picks that are surprises.
I don't see much difference between late picks and Undrafted Free Agents as both groups have a
lesser chance to make the team. So to fill out the TC roster, you can select in the draft the players
you want or sign UFA's to fill out the TC roster. The number stays the same, but you get more of
the players you think can make it by drafting them because you aren't competing with other teams
to sign them. At least that's the theory.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby c_hawkbob » Tue May 14, 2019 1:20 pm

We added Al Woods, 340 lb run stuffer today. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/seattle-se ... 06400.html

Had a cup of coffee with us in 11, then bounced around the league before settling in with the Colts making 24 starts over the last two years.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Tue May 14, 2019 1:32 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:We added Al Woods, 340 lb run stuffer today. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/seattle-se ... 06400.html

Had a cup of coffee with us in 11, then bounced around the league before settling in with the Colts making 24 starts over the last two years.

Not a bad signing if he works out. 24 starts is averaging 75% and if we get 12 games out of him to stop the run and give Poona a break, that's great.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Tue May 14, 2019 2:10 pm

He did pretty well playing for the Colts last year, so he might have something to add for us.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Thu May 30, 2019 7:25 am

I love Bobby Wagner and have loved watching Kam play (even though I was disappointed with his hold out).

I have been a fan of KJ Wright for a while but I just got a little more of a fan after reading this.

He's now the longest tenured Seahawk on the team and he's still producing.

https://www.seahawks.com/news/k-j-wright-calls-ninth-season-with-seahawks-a-blessing-and-an-honor
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Thu May 30, 2019 10:37 am

I've always been a fan of KJ and how he conducts himself both on the field and off.
It was never about him in front of the team and now we hear he's quietly showing
the young guys how to be a pro. I hope they take advantage of the opportunity.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Thu May 30, 2019 2:33 pm

Seahawks are suing our 2nd round pick from a couple years ago for the signing bonus he got. It looks like the Cowboys are trying to get him to pass a physical and play for them this year.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Fri May 31, 2019 7:13 am

The relationship seems really strained according to this article:

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/ ... ning-bonus

Apparently they are going after his signing bonus plus interest if the above is to be believed.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri May 31, 2019 7:30 am

If he's gonna get a new contract with the Cowgirls he needs to square up with us.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Fri May 31, 2019 7:45 am

c_hawkbob wrote:If he's gonna get a new contract with the Cowgirls he needs to square up with us.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't have the money until he gets the money from the Boys. He most likely spent the $$$ on the ATV that he crashed on and he probably spent a lot of the rest of it on hospital bills and other partying. So in that regard, I hope he signs with the boys so that we can get the money back. Its like only $800k
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Fri May 31, 2019 10:00 am

Does recovering signing bonuses have Cap implications?
Would it give us an extra $800,000 in Cap space?
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Fri May 31, 2019 10:53 am

NorthHawk wrote:Does recovering signing bonuses have Cap implications?
Would it give us an extra $800,000 in Cap space?

I don't know the answer to that but if it did have cap implications wouldn't it be minimal since it would have been spread over the entire contract? We need a cap guru in here.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby RiverDog » Fri May 31, 2019 1:00 pm

NorthHawk wrote:Does recovering signing bonuses have Cap implications?
Would it give us an extra $800,000 in Cap space?

idhawkman wrote:I don't know the answer to that but if it did have cap implications wouldn't it be minimal since it would have been spread over the entire contract? We need a cap guru in here.


From Field Gulls:

The amount which the arbitrator ordered McDowell to repay, $1,599,238, is half of his signing bonus. Specifically, it’s the portions of the signing bonus which were pro rated on the 2018 and 2019 portions of the salary cap. Based on the recovery of the $800,000 during the 2018 season, the Seahawks should have received that portion in credit on the 2019 salary cap.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2019/5/30/18 ... t-judgment
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:09 am

RiverDog wrote:
From Field Gulls:

The amount which the arbitrator ordered McDowell to repay, $1,599,238, is half of his signing bonus. Specifically, it’s the portions of the signing bonus which were pro rated on the 2018 and 2019 portions of the salary cap. Based on the recovery of the $800,000 during the 2018 season, the Seahawks should have received that portion in credit on the 2019 salary cap.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2019/5/30/18 ... t-judgment

Great find. Thank you.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby RiverDog » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:17 am

It seems now that McDowell's claiming that it wasn't his head injury that caused the Seahawks not to clear him for play:

The Seahawks had there own reasoning for not letting me play but my head was not (the) issue," McDowell wrote. "At the end of the day (I) was cleared by a well respected neurologist and that's that. Feel how you wanna feel."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/mc ... spartanntp

Unfortunately, that doesn't exactly jive with what his own agent said about the Hawks attempts to get him on the field:

"The Seahawks, they tried their best to work with him, and unfortunately they didn't feel that he could play," Rosenhaus said. "Unfortunately, Malik got injured and (it) was a brain injury, a head injury. And the Seahawks, they did a wonderful job of exhaustively checking to see if they could get him cleared to play. Ultimately, their doctors were not comfortable clearing him."

https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/seahaw ... 715881.php
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:57 am

RiverDog wrote:It seems now that McDowell's claiming that it wasn't his head injury that caused the Seahawks not to clear him for play:

The Seahawks had there own reasoning for not letting me play but my head was not (the) issue," McDowell wrote. "At the end of the day (I) was cleared by a well respected neurologist and that's that. Feel how you wanna feel."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/mc ... spartanntp

Unfortunately, that doesn't exactly jive with what his own agent said about the Hawks attempts to get him on the field:

"The Seahawks, they tried their best to work with him, and unfortunately they didn't feel that he could play," Rosenhaus said. "Unfortunately, Malik got injured and (it) was a brain injury, a head injury. And the Seahawks, they did a wonderful job of exhaustively checking to see if they could get him cleared to play. Ultimately, their doctors were not comfortable clearing him."

https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/seahaw ... 715881.php


I don't think Malik understands that outside doctors don't over rule team or league doctors. I'm sure if that were the case, every player out there making $1M or more could find a doctor to say they were cleared to play. What's going to be even more interesting is whether or not the Dallas doctors will clear him. I would imagine that "IF" Dallas' doctors do not clear him, his career is over in the NFL.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby RiverDog » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:06 pm

I'm not sure if there is a precedent where a player was never able to play for the team that drafted him due to a medical/legal issue then subsequently resolved the issue and signed with another team. I would think that the team that signs him would have to compensate us with a draft choice.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby Uppercut » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:06 pm

If Malik is still any good ol Jerry will certainly have a Cowboy doctor find him fit for duty
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby jshawaii22 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:53 pm

RiverDog wrote:I'm not sure if there is a precedent where a player was never able to play for the team that drafted him due to a medical/legal issue then subsequently resolved the issue and signed with another team. I would think that the team that signs him would have to compensate us with a draft choice.


if we released him with a 'medical' designation, then he's a free agent and signs with another team. Maybe it helps with our compensatory picks, but I can't see Dallas owing us anything direct.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby RiverDog » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:18 am

RiverDog wrote:I'm not sure if there is a precedent where a player was never able to play for the team that drafted him due to a medical/legal issue then subsequently resolved the issue and signed with another team. I would think that the team that signs him would have to compensate us with a draft choice.


jshawaii22 wrote:if we released him with a 'medical' designation, then he's a free agent and signs with another team. Maybe it helps with our compensatory picks, but I can't see Dallas owing us anything direct.


I don't doubt that's true. I was sort of talking to myself. For one, I was curious if something like this has ever happened before, where a team drafts a player, is forced to release them for a non football reason, then another team subsequently signs them, and the second part was that it seems just a tad bit unfair if the Seahawks made good faith decision based on the advice of the medical community then have that same community re-instate his eligibility so a competitor can sign him.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:38 am

This article doesn't address whether it's ever happened before, but it's a little interesting.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/ ... ng-me-play
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby RiverDog » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:06 am

NorthHawk wrote:This article doesn't address whether it's ever happened before, but it's a little interesting.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/ ... ng-me-play


The article points out the absurdity of McDowell's recent claims that the Seahawks didn't want him to play. It was also interesting to note that Dallas's team doctors have been unable to clear him, although I don't know exactly what that means. Are they still trying to get him cleared or did they simply failed him?
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:53 am

Who knows what the Cowboys are doing, but McDowell's Agent is probably behind
the push to allow him to play. I don't think Rosenhous (sp) is averse to 'Doctor
Shopping' if it will get his client back on the field. But that's just my opinion.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:15 am

NorthHawk wrote:Who knows what the Cowboys are doing, but McDowell's Agent is probably behind
the push to allow him to play. I don't think Rosenhous (sp) is averse to 'Doctor
Shopping' if it will get his client back on the field. But that's just my opinion.


And most importantly, get a check for getting him on a team. :D
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:44 am

It seems Rashaad Penny is working with Marshall Faulk.
Any edge he can get will be a bonus for us.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... all-faulk/
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby jshawaii22 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:56 pm

So, he's another high draft pick that had the delusion the NFL was 'easy' and he'd just be himself and it would be OK.

Glad he picked a true winner to learn & train with.
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Re: Seahawks News

Postby idhawkman » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:15 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:So, he's another high draft pick that had the delusion the NFL was 'easy' and he'd just be himself and it would be OK.

Glad he picked a true winner to learn & train with.

I was taken back at first that Faulk would help him until I remembered that Faulk also went to SD state. That is the connection that made this possible. "IF" Penny can pick up info from Faulk we'll benefit greatly.
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