Seahawks QB Wilson: 'Hey Seattle, we got a deal'

[Anthony]

The only winner in this is Cianna and RW. The Fans lose. I thought the guy was as much, or more about winning than Brady, Wrong. I think Pete and John got bent over. He creates a phony deadline and they folded like a cheap suit. They have never put anyone of real quality around RW on the Offense since Lynch left.
No question, all due respect to River, he bailed out PC's career, we were headed to a 3rd 7-9 season, he almost wins in Atlanta, takes us to 2 SB's in a row, and then the LOB gets all the credit. He was one more season of Matt Flynn, of being down the road. This year He made 0 moves in FA, and we only have 4 draft picks.
I think it was all BS. No team was going to pay Wilson this kind of money, and Seattle a boatload of Draft picks, just to get Russell Wilson. The Price was too high. IF I am wrong, Name me one team. Dallas is next, if they don't win it all this year, they are done, and JJ always over pays for the talent. I would have floated and then tagged him next year. Either way we have seen the best of RW. If you think I am wrong see the warm, fuzzy video that he put out. I think the new NFL is upon us, you either get good at finding new young QB's, or you live with the fact that you win games but no SB's with a qb on a max contract. I am not angry or depressed, I just see the 9ers getting better, Dallas got better, and we lost pieces. He took us to 10-6 and the Playoffs without the LOB, he deserves his money, but Like I said, we are now the GB Packers of the NW.

So I am guessing you will not ne watching any games or if you do it will be just to say I told you so if we loose a game, adn other wise nothing,. Dont have time for it. Goodbye. Oh and FYI we will have over 65 mil in cap space next year 2nd mos tin the league pretty sure we will be fine

[Aseahawkfan]

The only winner in this is Cianna and RW. The Fans lose. I thought the guy was as much, or more about winning than Brady, Wrong. I think Pete and John got bent over. He creates a phony deadline and they folded like a cheap suit. They have never put anyone of real quality around RW on the Offense since Lynch left.
No question, all due respect to River, he bailed out PC's career, we were headed to a 3rd 7-9 season, he almost wins in Atlanta, takes us to 2 SB's in a row, and then the LOB gets all the credit. He was one more season of Matt Flynn, of being down the road. This year He made 0 moves in FA, and we only have 4 draft picks.
I think it was all BS. No team was going to pay Wilson this kind of money, and Seattle a boatload of Draft picks, just to get Russell Wilson. The Price was too high. IF I am wrong, Name me one team. Dallas is next, if they don't win it all this year, they are done, and JJ always over pays for the talent. I would have floated and then tagged him next year. Either way we have seen the best of RW. If you think I am wrong see the warm, fuzzy video that he put out. I think the new NFL is upon us, you either get good at finding new young QB's, or you live with the fact that you win games but no SB's with a qb on a max contract. I am not angry or depressed, I just see the 9ers getting better, Dallas got better, and we lost pieces. He took us to 10-6 and the Playoffs without the LOB, he deserves his money, but Like I said, we are now the GB Packers of the NW.

Russell Wilson's contract will look like a bargain in a few years. Prices are going to rise. Nature of the NFL.

Only Brady is Brady. He's the best ever for a reason. I'm sure Russell will take a pay cut. With a salary as high Russell's, it gives him some latitude to influence team decisions. I'm sure for the right guy Russell takes a pay cut. Why do so if he's just taking a cut for nothing worthwhile?

Russell's money is right for the time. What did you expect him to get when the 49ers pay Jimmy G, an unproven QB, 27.5 million and Cousins is getting 28 million a year. Sorry you don't like it, but that's QB salary now. They're just going to keep on rising. Every team will have to pay to have a high level QB or even a moderately good QB.

[HawkDawg]

The price tag scared the hell out of me at first, but then I started thinking. Wilson reached GOAT status paycheck wise, he seems like the kind of person that would want his stats/records to show it as well. The guy has a drive that you rarely see in any player, in any sport. You know he wants that second ring that barely slipped off of his finger, if not more.

Now is the time. It wasn't that long ago when Wilson was our star running back and stayed relatively injury free. Now with an O-Line that's starting to work, a running game that's being established, some trusted receivers, our offense is looking solid.

Add the best defensive captain you could think of, a punter that's off the hook, hopefully a kicker that can just be a damn kicker (if so, our special teams would kill it), a coaching staff that's starting to gel and the most creative F.O. we've ever seen. A young, hungry team with the right veterans in the right place at the right time. This is a good looking formula.

Carroll won't be around forever, nor will Wilson. But they're a perfect fit and I don't think Pete wants to deal with another QB at the end of his career. The deal is done and the Carroll/Wilson saga continues, let's hope they make it something to be remembered. We're living in the glory years...it's a damn good time to be a fan.

[Aseahawkfan]

The price tag scared the hell out of me at first, but then I started thinking. Wilson reached GOAT status paycheck wise, he seems like the kind of person that would want his stats/records to show it as well. The guy has a drive that you rarely see in any player, in any sport. You know he wants that second ring that barely slipped off of his finger, if not more.

Now is the time. It wasn't that long ago when Wilson was our star running back and stayed relatively injury free. Now with an O-Line that's starting to work, a running game that's being established, some trusted receivers, our offense is looking solid.

Add the best defensive captain you could think of, a punter that's off the hook, hopefully a kicker that can just be a damn kicker (if so, our special teams would kill it), a coaching staff that's starting to gel and the most creative F.O. we've ever seen. A young, hungry team with the right veterans in the right place at the right time. This is a good looking formula.

Carroll won't be around forever, nor will Wilson. But they're a perfect fit and I don't think Pete wants to deal with another QB at the end of his career. The deal is done and the Carroll/Wilson saga continues, let's hope they make it something to be remembered. We're living in the glory years...it's a damn good time to be a fan.

Yep. Guy hasn't missed a game in seven years (does anti-curse dance for saying this). He's pretty much the difference between going to Super Bowls and barely making the playoffs. We know 100% if we build a team around him, he can take us all the way. Most teams never find that guy and we have it proven with a ring and a second trip to the Super Bowl. It's worth the money. Most teams have a QB like Russell maybe a few times in franchise history if they're a very long tenured team.

[RiverDog]

The more I look at this contract, the more pleased I am. First off, contrary to my first impression, the deal is a true extension rather than a tearing up of his old contract. It doesn't take effect until the 2020 season, meaning it goes through 2023 and the uncertainty of next CBA.

Secondly, it's not tied to increases in the cap, and revenue is projected to take a big bump in coming years. That will shrink the percentage of the cap that is dedicated to RW and give us more flexibility down the road.

And last but not least, the negotiations and their end result....RW could have gotten a lot more had he gone the FT route....indicates that Russell's heart is truly with us and not in New York or LA. All indications are that he's all in. I couldn't say that about Earl, Kam, and now Frank Clark, and I couldn't say that about Russell until yesterday morning.

So cheer up, obi! J/B the Packers haven't been able to manage their situation doesn't necessarily mean that we won't be able to manage ours. PC and JS are one of the more successful HC/GM tandems in the game. You have to trust that these guys know what they're doing.

[NorthHawk]

I posted earlier that this contract could be considered team friendly and in a couple
of years it will look very good. The Cap may take some big jumps in the next few
years when the gambling revenue settles in. Then his contract will look cheap in
comparison to the overall Salary Cap.

[mykc14]

. I think it made sense to do it this way but I wonder, does that really make him the highest paid if Aaron's deal was for $33.5M / year? Not that it matters, he's here and at an average lower price than we thought ($1.5m/yr)

It still does because Aaron Rodgers was in a similar situation when he signed his contract except I that he had 2 years left on his contract when they extended him him so his actual average over the 6 years of his contract is less than 33.5.

[NorthHawk]

Here's an article that sheds some light on the details and how his contract ranks
against Rodgers.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2019/ ... l-seahawks

[RiverDog]

I posted earlier that this contract could be considered team friendly and in a couple
of years it will look very good. The Cap may take some big jumps in the next few
years when the gambling revenue settles in. Then his contract will look cheap in
comparison to the overall Salary Cap.

You're assuming that the new CBA remains as it is currently structured. For example, the players hate the FT and might be willing to agree to a smaller percentage of revenue in order to get rid if it in which case that assumption would no longer be valid.

[NorthHawk]

I was talking Cap, not Franchise Tag.

What do you think the players will give up to get rid of the FT?
That's a big deal for the owners and is a large part of how the NFL
became so competitive, so it would have to be a big sacrifice by them.

[RiverDog]

I was talking Cap, not Franchise Tag.

What do you think the players will give up to get rid of the FT?
That's a big deal for the owners and is a large part of how the NFL
became so competitive, so it would have to be a big sacrifice by them.

The players could give up a certain percentage of the revenue (now roughly 50%) in exchange for eliminating the FT/TT. As a consequence, the salary cap could be reduced, which would make Russell's contract a larger share of the cap.

It's probably unlikely, but I'm only using it as an example of the unknown X factor in the upcoming CBA negotiations.

[NorthHawk]

I think that's highly doubtful.
The NFLPA worked hard to get the % of revenue and the increases in the Cap that they now have.
I think they would be really hesitant to give up any of those gains so a few players can benefit.

[idhawkman]

I posted earlier that this contract could be considered team friendly and in a couple
of years it will look very good. The Cap may take some big jumps in the next few
years when the gambling revenue settles in. Then his contract will look cheap in
comparison to the overall Salary Cap.

You're assuming that the new CBA remains as it is currently structured. For example, the players hate the FT and might be willing to agree to a smaller percentage of revenue in order to get rid if it in which case that assumption would no longer be valid.

I'd be really surprised if they as a whole would vote for taking smaller share for no FTag. There's very few players that even get considered for the Ftag. Most want more money in the pool so they can get a slice of the pie big enough to eat. They are the ones who could care less if Clark or Wilson get tagged and they sure are not going to give up a portion of their salary to make it easier on them to leave their team or get even more pie.

But, I've been wrong before.

[RiverDog]

I think that's highly doubtful.
The NFLPA worked hard to get the % of revenue and the increases in the Cap that they now have.
I think they would be really hesitant to give up any of those gains so a few players can benefit.

Yea, I don't give it much of a chance, either, as the smart move for the union would be to hold onto the salary formula they currently have and put up with the tags.

My point was that depending on how things play out that we could have a whole lot different looking CBA and I wouldn't make any assumptions on what kind of salary formula they might or might not end up with.

[Hawktawk]

As crazy as the numbers look its clear Russ signed a reasonable deal for a guy who has never missed a practice much less a game, is third in pass TD's, third in rushing and first in wins among NFC QBs since he came into the league. He wanted to be #1 paid guy at signing and he is, nothing more and nothing less. He gets to hit the market again at age 35 and as a guy who keeps himself in good shape probably has a chance at one more deal. As for performance Russ wasn't swayed by his last mega deal, just kept working hard and balling out better than ever. IMO this deal will make him even more hungry, more deadly. He doesn't get intimidated or feel the pressure of "living up" to the contract.

Good times in Seahawks land

[NorthHawk]

Here's some details from Pro Football Rumors about Wilson's contract:

More details of Russell Wilson‘s landmark extension are emerging. Wilson’s 2020 and ’21 base salaries — $19MM apiece — will become fully guaranteed if he is on the Seahawks roster five days after Super Bowls LIV and LV, respectively. With that a near-certainty, Wilson’s $107MM in total guarantees are practically full guarantees. Wilson will earn a $19MM base salary in 2022 and ’23, according to OverTheCap. This deal leaves Wilson with cap numbers of $26.29MM (2019), $31MM (2020), $32MM (’21), $37MM (’22) and $39MM (’23). The eighth-year quarterback’s base salary was slated to be $17MM this year; the new deal converted much of that money into a signing bonus, with Wilson now attached to a $5MM base in 2019. The new contract raised Wilson’s 2019 cap number by just $1MM. Additionally, the contract includes a $6MM escalator clause — which would bring the total dollar figure up to $146MM — for Wilson’s 2023 salary, per CBS Sports’ Joel Corry (on Twitter). Unspecified performance-based incentives from 2020-22 can bump the Pro Bowler’s $21MM salary in 2023 to $27MM.

It's heavy on the back end, but that's when the negotiations for a new contract will begin - or more trade talks.
As well, the Cap should be a lot larger then, too.