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[NorthHawk]

Agree it will be herculean but we do have a pretty good blue print from last week's Saints/Rams game. Saints have a short strong armed QB like we have. They have a couple of good RBs like we have (when healthy). Defenses may also be comparable.

It won't be easy and we can't have brain f@rts like last week's game by key people but there is a chance.....

Even when healthy we don't have the Offense that the Saints do, but with Fluker and Carson possibly not playing or limited in play time, it doesn't bode well.
However, games are played on grass, not on paper, so with a few breaks, who knows?

[Hawktawk]

We must go a minimum of 6-2 from here on out to have a shot With the current standings in the NFC east and south. A loss here puts us at 4-5. in 2015 I sat at the Clink with my best buddy in the world and watched the Hawks drop to 4-5 with a loss to AZ courtesy of a terrible game from an injured Lynch and 14 penalties from Clete Blakeman's crew among other things. That season ended in a furious comeback vs Carolina that fell just short in the divisional round. It aint over till it's over. I wouldnt bet a dime on this team but it would be the same for or against. Like all year I have no clue what to expect sunday. Maybe the Rams will have some self doubt and they really haven't been dominant at home with several squeakers so lets see

[RiverDog]

We must go a minimum of 6-2 from here on out to have a shot With the current standings in the NFC east and south. A loss here puts us at 4-5. in 2015 I sat at the Clink with my best buddy in the world and watched the Hawks drop to 4-5 with a loss to AZ courtesy of a terrible game from an injured Lynch and 14 penalties from Clete Blakeman's crew among other things. That season ended in a furious comeback vs Carolina that fell just short in the divisional round. It aint over till it's over. I wouldnt bet a dime on this team but it would be the same for or against. Like all year I have no clue what to expect sunday. Maybe the Rams will have some self doubt and they really haven't been dominant at home with several squeakers so lets see

A loss Sunday won't be devastating to our playoff hopes, but it will help our prospects alot should we win. Our next two games are against teams that we could be battling with to win a wild card, so a loss would more than likely force us to win both those games in order to be in the hunt, beating the Rams would allow for a split. We should know by Thanksgiving if our team is contenders or pretenders.

[politicalfootball]

I Have been saying for years we need some help on the o-line. We Have finally done it, we will see just how much we did it and just how good it will become . Next season FA the draft can only help. I am as certain as anything our main focus will be on defense. Our offense is pretty much set. I guess the real reason I like the OL is I played football there . Thanks Anthony for this thread

[Anthony]

I Have been saying for years we need some help on the o-line. We Have finally done it, we will see just how much we did it and just how good it will become . Next season FA the draft can only help. I am as certain as anything our main focus will be on defense. Our offense is pretty much set. I guess the real reason I like the OL is I played football there . Thanks Anthony for this thread

NP, I agree if we can keep everyone we seem to have the line the problem now is we need the right offense built for what we have. I do not believe this Run, Run oh and run more is the right system. We might beat bad teams with it, and occasional surprise someone when the stars align, but we will not consistently beat the good teams without a more dynamic offense.

[HumanCockroach]

Of course not.

[Anthony]

So i decided to go back and look at all the games this year and noticed and interesting thing. Our pass blocking when not in obvious pass downs is good, but when in obcious pass downs or when it is obvious we are passing (empty backfield) really bad.

[RiverDog]

I do not believe this Run, Run oh and run more is the right system. We might beat bad teams with it, and occasional surprise someone when the stars align, but we will not consistently beat the good teams without a more dynamic offense.

Son i decided to go back and look at all the games this year and noticed and interesting thing. Our pass blocking when not in obvious pass downs is good, but when in obcious pass downs or when it is obvious we are passing (empty backfield) really bad.

So let me get this straight: You don't think that this run, run, and oh more run system is right for us, yet you admit that our pass blocking when in obvious passing downs is really bad.

That's as close to an oxymoron as you can get.

[Anthony]

So let me get this straight: You don't think that this run, run, and oh more run system is right for us, yet you admit that our pass blocking when in obvious passing downs is really bad.

That's as close to an oxymoron as you can get.

Not really, the key to what i wrote was obvious passing downs, with an empty backfield. So that means we need to 1 stop using empty backfields on obvious passing downs, and stop doing run, run, pass most of the time and we should be okay. Since its obvious that they have no desire to have a real passing attack, doing what I, and others have said should work for now.

[NorthHawk]

If during a game we can grind out 4 or 5 yards per attempt, don’t stop unless the Defense makes changes to stop it.

[Anthony]

If during a game we can grind out 4 or 5 yards per attempt, don’t stop unless the Defense makes changes to stop it.

Yeah and then when you have to pass and you will, they can tee off, you need to mix it up since we dont have a straight up pass blocking oline so that when you need to pass you can

[HumanCockroach]

Son i decided to go back and look at all the games this year and noticed and interesting thing. Our pass blocking when not in obvious pass downs is good, but when in obcious pass downs or when it is obvious we are passing (empty backfield) really bad.

Son I been watching NFL football for 35 years, you know what? You're right, hence the REASON defenses try to get offenses into obvious passing downs. Because you know what? Every line struggles in those circumstances, all of them, since the invention of the forward pass...

But bang up job seeing that.

[Anthony]

Son I been watching NFL football for 35 years, you know what? You're right, hence the REASON defenses try to get offenses into obvious passing downs. Because you know what? Every line struggles in those circumstances, all of them, since the invention of the forward pass...

But bang up job seeing that.

First typo it was supposed to say so not son, 2 I am probably older than you, third thanks for well-saying nothing, oh and only 35 yeah sorry you are young.

[HumanCockroach]

And you just figuring that out now? Interesting. As for what I said, your right, I didn't really say anything, but to be fair, it was in response to a post that didn't say anything. Or at least anything that most don't already know is how that whole obvious passing down thing works, for pretty much every team in the history of the league.

I don't really care how old you are, but congratulations or whatever.

[politicalfootball]

We still need to pick up some guards in the 2or3 round. Next season.

[NorthHawk]

We still need to pick up some guards in the 2or3 round. Next season.

I'm not so sure about that.
Simmonds was pretty successful last game against Suh and sometimes Donald and we really didn't miss Fluker that much.
Maybe it's a matchup thing against the Rams DL, but with also having Pocic and Jones next year, the depth along the OL
might suddenly be solid.

We do have some issues with the pass rush and LB depth along with maybe some more secondary help if a stud
should be available around the 4th or 5th rounds.

[HumanCockroach]

I think 3/4s of that defensive backfield could be pretty good, I'm still not sold on Thompson as the piece to fill Thomas' shoes, for every good play he makes, he misses tackles, gets fooled by the QB or is 15 yards away from the football.

He might improve with experience, and he's a "fine" player, but he's not anything resembling ET, which made that system work.

He lacks the instincts or knowledge, Im hoping it's the latter, knowledge can be gained, instincts can't.

I'm not going to pretend Griffin is Sherman as some seem willing to do, but his footwork is above average, and his coverage is good. Still struggles to make plays on the football, but Seattle could do worse. Flowers considering his conversion, and lack of actually game time at corner has been imho pretty impressive. He still gets turned around, but coming in to the season I thought he would be a dumpster fire waiting to happen. McDougald is as advertised. He'll never be Kam in run support or game changing ability, but what he lacks in that regard, he makes up for in coverage ability, and can come up with momentum shifting turnovers in a different way.

[NorthHawk]

We all knew this was a transition year, so some learning will be required and holes exposed,

We’ll never find another ET, so it’s a bit unfair to any player at that position. Having said that, Pete seems to
have a way of tweaking his Defense or coach up players to take advantage of unique qualities. There was a quote from
a scout a few years ago who said that they tried to find players with special talents and they would modify the Defense to take advantage of them.
In short ( I know, too late) we may find someone who can be nearly as effective as ET but with different qualities.

[HumanCockroach]

I'm not saying they can't, merely that I don't see that being Thompson. I wasn't saying they had to be as good or on par with Thomas, my point was I don't see Thompson as the piece to make it work. His instincts aren't apparent at this point, and instinctual football is key to success in the system run from that position. Speed and size can be found littered throughout college and the pros, the instincts, and study habits and the ability to translate what's seen in the film room to the football field are what separates adequate from great.