Sherman's antics

[Hawk Sista]

I usually am not bothered by Sherman's talk - in fact - I kinda like it. However, his complaining after every play to get OPI or whatever has been irritating this year. He seems angry this year. Panicky even, at times.

I'm worried about him calling out Bevel on the sidelines last night and again in his post game presser. It's divisive and much less team centric than Pete's teams are designed to be. I hope it doesn't hurt us moving forward. Whether or not you agree with Sherman's take or not is irrelevant. His behavior is feeling more and more selfish and this recent example represents a a concern moving forward.

[NorthHawk]

I suspect it's frustration coming to the front, and I don't blame him.
They've had a lot of success in the past, but it's a struggle to get points this year and it's not going to cut it in the playoffs.

[Hawktawk]

I suspect it's frustration coming to the front, and I don't blame him.
They've had a lot of success in the past, but it's a struggle to get points this year and it's not going to cut it in the playoffs.

I said the same thing as Sherman on that play. Bevell is just too damn cute . They line up their shiny new fullback and Rawls in the I and try that flim flam instead of getting a yard. I think Sherman speaks for quite a few guys on the field frankly. The defense is tired of living on the field all day and bailing out this pathetic 22 ranked offense .

[Hawkstar]

I don't mind Sherman speaking up. Calling out PC and Bevel for passing from the 1 speaks for a lot of us, it's super frautrating to watch. I suspect he's speaking up for a lot of guys on his side of the ball.

[RiverDog]

I usually am not bothered by Sherman's talk - in fact - I kinda like it. However, his complaining after every play to get OPI or whatever has been irritating this year. He seems angry this year. Panicky even, at times.

I'm worried about him calling out Bevel on the sidelines last night and again in his post game presser. It's divisive and much less team centric than Pete's teams are designed to be. I hope it doesn't hurt us moving forward. Whether or not you agree with Sherman's take or not is irrelevant. His behavior is feeling more and more selfish and this recent example represents a a concern moving forward.

I've learned to warm up to Sherman since I've gotten to know him better. I didn't like him before, thought him to be unsportsmanlike, but my opinion has taken an almost 180 degree turn...almost.

I don't like him begging refs after every penalty that goes against him. Some I can see, such as a phantom facemask he was called for a couple of weeks ago. But that doesn't irritate me as much as some of the other things you noted, ie calling out Bevell.

But it is what it is. Until I see evidence that it is indeed disrupting team harmony, I'm not going to get too worried about it.

[obiken]

I've learned to warm up to Sherman since I've gotten to know him better. I didn't like him before, thought him to be unsportsmanlike, but my opinion has taken an almost 180 degree turn...almost.

I don't like him begging refs after every penalty that goes against him. Some I can see, such as a phantom facemask he was called for a couple of weeks ago. But that doesn't irritate me as much as some of the other things you noted, ie calling out Bevell.

But it is what it is. Until I see evidence that it is indeed disrupting team harmony, I'm not going to get too worried about it.

For me, when he goes off is he right, or is he wrong. On this he was right. You give the ball to Lynch! Russell is just not very good at making the soft corner fade. I say pound the puppy for 2 downs then use a roll out or whatever.

[Jjones84]

I bet they don't just write him off. They will voice the same concerns on "tell the truth" which ever day of the week it falls on. Someone needed to say it. I'm glad he did. It will start a Convo. It may actually yield results.

At least he wasn't slanderous or anything like that, to the media that is. It may have had more weight if Baldwin had spoken up, but someone needed to.

[c_hawkbob]

While I think Sherm needs to keep it in house, he's got his right to his opinion and even the sideline blowup is excusable (heat of the moment and all) but beyond that it should be "team business".

I don't think it's a big deal though and I like his intensity. It makes him the player he is.

[NorthHawk]

Apparently Carroll and Sherman met for an hour today discussing the issue.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... s-morning/

[curmudgeon]

There is too much talent at the offensive skill positions that is not being utilized. Instead, we get the same old dreck from Bevell. He needs to go.......

[NorthHawk]

Nothing works on Offense if the OL isn't consistent.
They have the nucleus of a solid OL with the 2 Guards and Center, but they need more work together be a solid unit.
I'm not absolving Bevell, but he really doesn't have a consistent, fully functioning line on which to depend, and so we see the horrible and great plays as a result.
That means it's still a little hit and miss on Offense.

[Oly]

I don't mind. I love Carrol's willingness to let his players express themselves and stick up for them when they do. How do you think Sherman feels today? He spoke his mind, had the coach he berated stick up for his passion in a press conference, and then met individually to wrap things up. I have to think that this kind of stuff makes Sherm happy to play here, and the same is true when Bennett or Angry Doug or anyone else wants to share a piece of their mind. Happy players = happy locker room = a team that reaches its potential.

For me, this is much ado about nothing, because that's how Pete treats it.

[RiverDog]

Nothing works on Offense if the OL isn't consistent.
They have the nucleus of a solid OL with the 2 Guards and Center, but they need more work together be a solid unit.
I'm not absolving Bevell, but he really doesn't have a consistent, fully functioning line on which to depend, and so we see the horrible and great plays as a result.
That means it's still a little hit and miss on Offense.

I actually thought Bevell did a great job last night. He had an obvious impediment with the disparity between our OL and the Ram's front 7 (did you guys get a load of Olgitree?) yet he was able to score more points against that team than in our previous 3 games. If he can pull off similar results from here on out, I like our chances.

[Hawk Sista]

Look. If Sherman has a frustration - air it out, by all means. Letting it fester does no good for anyone. But the very public way he did it, and the manner in which he did it is cause for concern. I tell you, I am not always right, not by a long shot. I can grow and learn from a subordinate or teammate and I can hear that they disagree. If those comments are made to me, that's one thing. If someone on my team made a sarcastic critique in a post event presser, we would have a problem.

[Hawk Sista]

I agree, River. And so does Pete.

[HumanCockroach]

Would keeping it to himself and letting it effect his and the defenses play suffer be more productive?

Considering the defense has carried this team I'm leaning towards no.

[RiverDog]

Would keeping it to himself and letting it effect his and the defenses play suffer be more productive?

Considering the defense has carried this team I'm leaning towards no.

I don't think the issue was Sherman keeping it to himself. The issue, at least as far as I'm concerned, is that there's a time and a place to air out concerns or complaints. Pete certainly doesn't treat his players the way Sherman treated Bevell.

I also don't think it's a huge deal that's going to split the locker room.

[Zorn76]

This is why Pete is so ideal for our team - he can handle anything and do it smoothly. Being a good x' s and o's coach and knowing how to deal with big personalities and egos makes him a rare breed. He is truly a blessing for the franchise.

As for Sherman, lol, I'm ok with him overall. Heat of the moment stuff the other night. I definitely agree that Bevell's timing for certain plays are head scratching, to say the least. But, yea, not ideal to call somebody out on the sideline typically.

Bad Richard:)

[Hawk Sista]

Would keeping it to himself and letting it effect his and the defenses play suffer be more productive?

Considering the defense has carried this team I'm leaning towards no.

You may want to read people's posts before you criticize them.

"Look. If Sherman has a frustration - air it out, by all means. Letting it fester does no good for anyone."

[HumanCockroach]

Let me know where I criticized you in there sis.

I was under the impression I was allowed my own opinions, I posted it, the end.

[Hawk Sista]

I never saw your reaction to my reaction. Sorry for not responding. You are entitled to your opinion, of course.

Since you asked - my response was based on this....It felt like I was the only one (in the minority at least) in this thread who took exception to Richard's recent antics. I was cautious to say that I think he should air a concern if he has one...just not in public and not in the douche bag like way he did it in front of the media. (Followed up by an even bigger distraction with the whole Jim Moore thing the week the D gave up 34 points to the Cards, BTW). The way you posed the question....it "felt" to me like you were saying to me "it is better to air out frustrations than letting them fester?" - which is something I had already said in multiple threads. If you were not talking to me - my apologies. If you were, you are entitled to your opinion so long as you don't distort mine.

Carry on - GO HAWKS

[HumanCockroach]

I certainly wasn't attempting to distort your opinion, was merely voicing where I landed on the issue. If that coincided with yours ( or didn't) wasn't really even thought of before I voiced mine.

[Hawktawk]

FYI sherm not at his Wednesday press conference. No official reason given. And on the controversy goes

[c_hawkbob]

FYI sherm not at his Wednesday press conference. No official reason given. And on the controversy goes

Like it matters what happens on Wednesday. #ignorethenoise

(did I do that right?)

[Hawktawk]

He was on the schedule but didn't show. He planned to meet with reporters later at his locker. If he's fired up he's just being smart. Walk away.

I got richards 6 for quite a while. He made the biggest defensive play in Seahawks history and so many other great ones.

[savvyman]

I was thinking about Sherman's behavior recently and the only thing that makes sense is this:

Richard is pissed off at the offense because he feels that they are not putting out championship type EFFORT - let me be clear EFFORT not results - this season.

Richard has never been the type of person to jump on a teammate for failing when they are trying their best. So I think he is expressing his anger to the offense over the quality of the effort that they have been bringing probably to both the games and practices.

[Hawk Sista]

Maybe he should realize when he and 9 others get so much of the salary, you underpay at other positions.

[Hawktawk]

I was thinking about Sherman's behavior recently and the only thing that makes sense is this:

Richard is pissed off at the offense because he feels that they are not putting out championship type EFFORT - let me be clear EFFORT not results - this season.

Richard has never been the type of person to jump on a teammate for failing when they are trying their best. So I think he is expressing his anger to the offense over the quality of the effort that they have been bringing probably to both the games and practices.

I'm not sure it's a lack of effort as much as a lack of consistency and at times mere competency. Any sort of offense in the tie and most of the losses would have flipped at least a couple of the games.
He has a point. I think he's trying to motivate the offense but based on last weeks results there's blame to go around.