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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:08 pm

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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Hawkstar » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:09 pm

4 plays. 80 yards. Can't blame Bevel for that.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Hawkstar » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:09 pm

Hawkstar wrote:4 plays. 80 yards. Can't blame Bevel for that.

Opps... 75 yards.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:11 pm

Maybe the D is just giving the O a little dose of their own medicine. The "we're here but not really interested in succeeding, you guys just need to be perfect all game for us to have a chance to win" thought process.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:13 pm

The offense has already quit with 6 minutes to go

At least based on this first two plays
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:14 pm

I think that 4th down thrown as Russell was being tackled was the only "Target" to jimmy graham all game.....
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:15 pm

Easy first down, blown by yet another Wilson underthrow.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby zackole » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:17 pm

Can hardly wait for Wilson's Howdy Doody interview after this game......
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:20 pm

I am so tired of this stupid offensive scheming - why is the running back going out for a pass with 4 receivers and a QB that needs an extra blocker for sure?
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:27 pm

What a play be Sherman - do not ever ever criticize anything this guys ever does
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:30 pm

Oh My God What a break - we actually have a chance to win
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:32 pm

Someone dial up THE_POPE for the final 2 minutes.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:39 pm

Wow - Hopefully we did not leave too much time.

Keep the aggressive pass rush please Richards
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:40 pm

F@CK
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Zorn76 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:41 pm

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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:43 pm

Rush a 5th player Richards - Palmer has killed us anytime he has time...
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Zorn76 » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:45 pm

yea - Blitz!
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:47 pm

Well that hurts
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:49 pm

Pressure works, let's not do it until they are already in FG RANGE...

seems sound..
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby RiverDog » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:30 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Probably help RD if they are bringing 7 or 8 to get rid of the ball, or maybe don't run into sacks, or maybe even if you have time, throw the damn ball. The line hasn't played great, almost as bad as the QB.


Oh, for crissakes, HC! Despite being under constant pressure, Wilson finished the game 29-45 for 350 yards with 4 TD's and no INT's with a 117.8 rating, and that's not even considering his rushing contributions. Granted, he missed on some critical passes and broke the pocket early that led to a couple of sacks, but he was not the reason why we lost.

Russell is thinking a lot like a lot of us: He doesn't have any confidence in this OL, so when his first look isn't there, his conditioned response is to look for a way out of the pocket.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby EmeraldBullet » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:45 pm

Wow, didn't realize his line was that good. The sacks and hits are frustrating though. He needs to learn to throw the ball away on some occasions.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby RiverDog » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:13 pm

EmeraldBullet wrote:Wow, didn't realize his line was that good. The sacks and hits are frustrating though. He needs to learn to throw the ball away on some occasions.


Yea, the only stat that counts is points scored. My point was that Russell's play was not that bad, all things considered.

Most of the sacks that came due to Russell's decisions didn't involve not throwing the ball away. Most of them occurred when he got nervous and chose to try to break the pocket and get out of hell's way. He doesn't trust that OL any further than he can spit, and neither do I.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:08 pm

Oh for Chrissake RD, at least half those hits were Wilson either running into pressure, or holding the ball far longer than needed. Here's a tip. If the defense brings 7 or 8, and you have 5 blockers, with 4 or 5 wide SOMEBODIES open, great QBs FIND them.

I could give a flying frock about fantasy numbers, stats or any other stupidity, I have so many times defended Wilson with a pedestrian 200 yards with 2 or 1 TD I can't even count. I could care less whether Wilson puts up numbers, I care about one thing and one thing only, wins. Sorry if that's not your priority, it is mine. Hence, leaving first downs on the field, TDs on the field, being responsible for a fumble that no one else but Wilson was running the play he thought was being run, holding the ball, running into hits and sacks, and st
inking up the field for three and a half quarters before leading a furious comeback in the end DOESN'T get a pass from me. You're welcome to that, I don't. I don't give Luck a pass, why the Duck would I give one to a QB that's missed horribly ALL season on wide open receivers?

Did you hear me saying ANYTHING about his problems with the deep ball last year? The year before? The year before that? Weird, no?

Truth is Wilson has had the ability to DELIVER those balls on time and accurately, but hasn't. Whether you want to blame the line for it or not, matters less than not at all to me. I don't waste time making excuses, those are throws he HAS to make, period.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby RiverDog » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:20 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Oh for Chrissake RD, at least half those hits were Wilson either running into pressure, or holding the ball far longer than needed. Here's a tip. If the defense brings 7 or 8, and you have 5 blockers, with 4 or 5 wide SOMEBODIES open, great QBs FIND them.

I could give a flying frock about fantasy numbers, stats or any other stupidity, I have so many times defended Wilson with a pedestrian 200 yards with 2 or 1 TD I can't even count. I could care less whether Wilson puts up numbers, I care about one thing and one thing only, wins. Sorry if that's not your priority, it is mine. Hence, leaving first downs on the field, TDs on the field, being responsible for a fumble that no one else but Wilson was running the play he thought was being run, holding the ball, running into hits and sacks, and st
inking up the field for three and a half quarters before leading a furious comeback in the end DOESN'T get a pass from me. You're welcome to that, I don't. I don't give Luck a pass, why the Duck would I give one to a QB that's missed horribly ALL season on wide open receivers?

Did you hear me saying ANYTHING about his problems with the deep ball last year? The year before? The year before that? Weird, no?

Truth is Wilson has had the ability to DELIVER those balls on time and accurately, but hasn't. Whether you want to blame the line for it or not, matters less than not at all to me. I don't waste time making excuses, those are throws he HAS to make, period.


Nor am I going to sit here and defend Russell. He game was off. He made some poor decisions, some of which led directly to sacks (keeping in mind that those poor decisions that led to sacks were driven by his inability to trust his OL), and his accuracy was off, usually long and not always when being pressured.

But despite being sacked 6 times and the times that he wasn't he was usually pressured, hit, or hurried, he still didn't even come close to throwing a single interception despite putting the ball in the air 45 times and despite not having a credible running threat OTHER than himself. Plus he led us on 3 4th quarter scoring drives, 2 with less than 5 minutes to go and at a time that we were given up for dead and hit on a 2 point conversion that didn't show up in his stat line. And yea, I'm not into stats, either, but you don't end up with the line he had with smoke and mirrors. Without looking it up, I'm willing to bet that this performance today was one of his top 5 statistical performances in his professional career, certainly his best ever in a losing effort, and you just can't dismiss that kind of performance by saying that you don't care about stats.

Admit it. This offensive line is not vastly improved. It's marginally better at best, and that statement only looks halfway good because you're comparing it to last season's OL, which was undeniably horrid.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Anthony » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:47 pm

LOL I have purposely not posted here for a while. Mainly due to this sites version of Jacknut otherwise known has Humancockroach, very apt name I might add. Yes Rw missed a few throws, as did Palmer, as did Rogers today and when we played them as did Brady and every other elite QB in the league, None of them make them all, however for some reason you seem to think he should. The reality is the facts clearly shows he played a very good game today, and of course your stand by is always I don't care what the stats show, which is another way of saying yeah I am wrong but I refuse to man up and admit it, so I am just going to pull a Jacknut. We did not loose the game because of Rw, and that is a fact and it obviously burns you because you want so much to blame it all on him. In fact if you opened your eyes you would have seen he was the only offensive reason we were in the game. Since I know nothing I am saying will matter to you, because well to be honest you just want to blame Rw no matter what, I am wasting my time. For what its worth I shared your rants on a few other boards, they think you not even a real fan, but a troll. Some think you bat sh!t crazy to think Wilson did not play well today. I don't I just think you have succumbed to jacknut disease. let review though

29/45 64% 350 yards, 4 tds 0 int QB rating 117.8 and 35 yards rushing. All while being hit, hurried, pressured or sacked on over 75% of his drop backs in the 1st half. That said he still set us up to win but for a missed extra point and really poor defense. Hmm Yeah I can think of 31 other teams who would take that from their QB. Especially behind this putrid oline. But hey why let the facts get in the way of your Jacknut moment or moments since this has been your stance pretty much all year.

Have a happy holiday!!
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:41 am

Wierd game. The 2 seed was gift wrapped and Seattle threw it away.
I guess if they couldn't win here in this situation hfa wasn't going to matter vs a reajjy good playoff team.
No more whistling in the graveyard for me. All bets are off on the state of this season.
We got an extra game coming and that's about all that's guaranteed.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby RiverDog » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:49 am

Anthony wrote:LOL I have purposely not posted here for a while. Mainly due to this sites version of Jacknut otherwise known has Humancockroach, very apt name I might add. Yes Rw missed a few throws, as did Palmer, as did Rogers today and when we played them as did Brady and every other elite QB in the league, None of them make them all, however for some reason you seem to think he should. The reality is the facts clearly shows he played a very good game today, and of course your stand by is always I don't care what the stats show, which is another way of saying yeah I am wrong but I refuse to man up and admit it, so I am just going to pull a Jacknut. We did not loose the game because of Rw, and that is a fact and it obviously burns you because you want so much to blame it all on him. In fact if you opened your eyes you would have seen he was the only offensive reason we were in the game. Since I know nothing I am saying will matter to you, because well to be honest you just want to blame Rw no matter what, I am wasting my time. For what its worth I shared your rants on a few other boards, they think you not even a real fan, but a troll. Some think you bat sh!t crazy to think Wilson did not play well today. I don't I just think you have succumbed to jacknut disease. let review though

29/45 64% 350 yards, 4 tds 0 int QB rating 117.8 and 35 yards rushing. All while being hit, hurried, pressured or sacked on over 75% of his drop backs in the 1st half. That said he still set us up to win but for a missed extra point and really poor defense. Hmm Yeah I can think of 31 other teams who would take that from their QB. Especially behind this putrid oline. But hey why let the facts get in the way of your Jacknut moment or moments since this has been your stance pretty much all year.

Have a happy holiday!!


Anthony, don't pretend that it was just one lone poster that caused you to turn your tail and run to the security of a highly trafficked forum where your obsession over Russell Wilson is less obvious. I know of no one anywhere in this universe that said Russell had ZERO responsibility for the pick in SB 49. If anyone is bat sh!t crazy, it's you for making such an ignorant claim like that. And HC is a very well respected poster and die hard Seahawk fan and although he's the first one to admit that he can be pretty abrasive and argumentative at times, he always has rational arguments, is an educated fan, and a very good debater. You couldn't take the heat so you left.

But for what it's worth, on this particular occasion, I agree with you about Russell. He was not at the top of his game today and as the most influential player on the field, he has to take his share of the responsibility for this loss, but even still, his play was not the primary reason why we lost this game. The offensive line, special teams, and the defense all have a much heavier cross to bear than Russell does.

But welcome back, anyway....And Merry Christmas to you!
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:22 am

RiverDog wrote:
Anthony, don't pretend that it was just one lone poster that caused you to turn your tail and run to the security of a highly trafficked forum where your obsession over Russell Wilson is less obvious. I know of no one anywhere in this universe that said Russell had ZERO responsibility for the pick in SB 49. If anyone is bat sh!t crazy, it's you for making such an ignorant claim like that. And HC is a very well respected poster and die hard Seahawk fan and although he's the first one to admit that he can be pretty abrasive and argumentative at times, he always has rational arguments, is an educated fan, and a very good debater. You couldn't take the heat so you left.

But for what it's worth, on this particular occasion, I agree with you about Russell. He was not at the top of his game today and as the most influential player on the field, he has to take his share of the responsibility, but even still, his play was not the primary reason why we lost this game. The offensive line, special teams, and the defense all have a much bigger cross to bear than Russell does.

But welcome back, anyway....And Merry Christmas to you!


dude you are really full of yourself, first I said mainly but I guess you missed that. As to the rest of your way off the topic post whatevwe makes you feel impoortant. Glad you can defend your bunk body good for you. LOL nice to see this forum is still a waste. Glad you know why I left I mean obviuosly you know everything, oh wait you really dont know much epsscially about me. But hey please make it up thats what you guys do best. Thanks for the laughs
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:22 am

Admit it. This offensive line is not vastly improved. It's marginally better at best, and that statement only looks halfway good because you're comparing it to last season's OL, which was undeniably horridly


1) that isn't going to happen because it isn't true, if we aren't comparing it to last year's line, what the hell are we going to compare it to?

2) you and many others WANTED better pass protection, well, you GOT it, and now you don't like it? Sorry and sh#t but that's the way it goes.

3) the continued lamenting about the $$$'s spent is ignorant at best, and downright stupid at worst. Truth is, you do NOT build a line through free agency, it doesn't work that way, and ANYONE that understands even a little bit about team building KNOWS that. Truth is there is NEVER a glut of quality lineman on the market, the ONLY way to build and improve a line is through drafting and developing said line. You can supplement with a free agent occasionally, but build one? No.

4) that "horrid" line from last year, was a line that had three of five starters from a SB team, players most here continue to Pine for to this day. Why? Because as I seem to have to do repeatedly, those players were pretty damn good when they were HERE despite these same types of arguments. I will say this again, just like I did last year, and the year before, AND the year before, these lineman are NFL starting caliber players, AND in three or four years you will all be lamenting then leaving and being overpaid for another team ( just like Carpenter, Sweezy, Guacomini and Okung) it's what you guys do.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:25 am

Anthony wrote:LOL I have purposely not posted here for a while. Mainly due to this sites version of Jacknut otherwise known has Humancockroach, very apt name I might add. Yes Rw missed a few throws, as did Palmer, as did Rogers today and when we played them as did Brady and every other elite QB in the league, None of them make them all, however for some reason you seem to think he should. The reality is the facts clearly shows he played a very good game today, and of course your stand by is always I don't care what the stats show, which is another way of saying yeah I am wrong but I refuse to man up and admit it, so I am just going to pull a Jacknut. We did not loose the game because of Rw, and that is a fact and it obviously burns you because you want so much to blame it all on him. In fact if you opened your eyes you would have seen he was the only offensive reason we were in the game. Since I know nothing I am saying will matter to you, because well to be honest you just want to blame Rw no matter what, I am wasting my time. For what its worth I shared your rants on a few other boards, they think you not even a real fan, but a troll. Some think you bat sh!t crazy to think Wilson did not play well today. I don't I just think you have succumbed to jacknut disease. let review though

29/45 64% 350 yards, 4 tds 0 int QB rating 117.8 and 35 yards rushing. All while being hit, hurried, pressured or sacked on over 75% of his drop backs in the 1st half. That said he still set us up to win but for a missed extra point and really poor defense. Hmm Yeah I can think of 31 other teams who would take that from their QB. Especially behind this putrid oline. But hey why let the facts get in the way of your Jacknut moment or moments since this has been your stance pretty much all year.

Have a happy holiday!!


And thus ends anything actually resembling intelligent debate...

You guys wanted a troll, and there you go. It's a Christmas miracle.

On a personal note.... Oh no, some one on some random site thinks I'm not a "real" fan? Whatever shall I do? Oh me oh my, I suppose life isn't worth living any longer, Anthony doesn't like what I post? Better get on that hotline for moral support, I mean the good Lord knows I strive only to be accepted and loved by someone with Wilson's jock over his face... I just want to be loved.... Sniff, sniff...

Get a grip gnat, I was ignoring you when you left, I can ignore you again, and I don't give two turtle farts if you call me jacknut a million times, share my posts with thousands of other "real" fans or insult me repeatedly.... Truth is, Lions simply don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep, and you my jock sniffing, Wilson manhood gobbling friend are most definitely a sheep..
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Zorn76 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:04 am

Oh no, lol.
Anthony?
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:37 am

HumanCockroach wrote:
And thus ends anything actually resembling intelligent debate...

You guys wanted a troll, and there you go. It's a Christmas miracle.

On a personal note.... Oh no, some one on some random site thinks I'm not a "real" fan? Whatever shall I do? Oh me oh my, I suppose life isn't worth living any longer, Anthony doesn't like what I post? Better get on that hotline for moral support, I mean the good Lord knows I strive only to be accepted and loved by someone with Wilson's jock over his face... I just want to be loved.... Sniff, sniff...

Get a grip gnat, I was ignoring you when you left, I can ignore you again, and I don't give two turtle farts if you call me jacknut a million times, share my posts with thousands of other "real" fans or insult me repeatedly.... Truth is, Lions simply don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep, and you my jock sniffing, Wilson manhood gobbling friend are most definitely a sheep..


hey jacknut hows it going, still pushing your factless agenda i see. intellgent conversation you mean like your "i dont care what the facts and stats show, only what I think" stance of yours like what you think matters.oh please ignore me, its not like i really need to read anything you post, its all the same anyway.Lion wow are you full of your self, you a gelding deal with it. have a good evening gelding. As for me all you need to know is I am your better and aways will be.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Anthony » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:39 am

Zorn76 wrote:Oh no, lol.
Anthony?


oh no from a gelding, LOL like what he thinks or says matters.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:47 am

Wow
Merry Fn Christmas eh?
There's more than a few cranky biatches in here. Wow.

Good to hear from you Anthony. Not that i'm going to rubber stamp yours or any position but variety is the spice of life. Its pretty hard to go back and find much you have contradicted yourself on so you're no phony.
I was amazed you didn't come back for a victory lap when RUSS WAS GLOWING AN IRIDESCENT GREEN HE WAS SO NUCLEAR HOT THE SECOND HALF OF LAST SEASON.

Any team with RW at QB is damn lucky to have him. Hes like any QB. He has bad days. Hes had too many of those in the last 6 weeks which has helped put us where we are. But yesterday he had a terrible half where he squandered at least another 10 or 14 points, a bad 3rd quarter and an amazing 4th quarter.
Great QBs have a comeback stat because they do that after they or they and the team have had a bad first 3 quarters.Russ has done that more than anyone the past 5 years.

He would have come all the way back to get the lead but for HAUSCHKA!!!!!

Talk About the teflon man. The loss is as much on him as anyone. Its a far different mentality on both sides of the ball if its FG or enjoy your plane ride on O and defend the win if your seattle on D.
And if he doesn't chunk his pathetically low FG kick that barely cleared the lineman's helmets before being swatted away its TD or go home in spite of everything else and it would have been hail mary time. The way the game went it probably would have worked anyway.. Granted the sack on 3rd down made it 45 instead of 35.
Last but not least the man hooked a NINETEEN yard FG in AZ or the Hawks are still in the 2 hole. It scares the crap out of me every time he lines up anymore. Hes making 3 million bucks a season for this????

Bevell must go. This team has been a slow starting team for its entire championship run.PC fired Jeremy Bates a week after he called the Beastquake game, as brilliant a piece of offensive strategy as I've seen. I do not understand the attraction to Darrell Bevell anymore.Aikman finally called Bevells play calling what I've called it for months."too cute".So much so D coordinators are guessing and planning for it like the dreadful sack on 4th down like they were in our radio headsets.It isnt fooling anyone.

Russ must be sharper to start games and not waste opportunities to take the lead and put pressure on the opponent instead of instilling confidence. Even vs LA and Carolina the wins would have been much bigger had he hit open guys.

As long as our defensive back end is so beat up and inexperienced we need to use our excellent front 7 to get extra pressure regularly. They didn't do it at all in GB and not enough yesterday. I know bad stuff can happen when you blitz veterans but if i'm going down there are no more bullets left in the chamber, Watching Palmer pick apart the secondary was nauseating.

And finally
The last time Seattle lost to AZ in week 17 at home for their only home loss of the year they won the SB 5 weeks later...They are in the tournament...just saying........

merry Christmas peace out.....
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:11 am

Wow - what a special date December 24th is.

We have the initial visit of the baby Jesus.

We have the annual visit from Old St Nick down the chimney.

And we have the return visit of Anthony.

Welcome Back Anthony - You were missed - Merry Christmas.

About HC however you couldn't be more wrong - he is a great fan and arguably the most knowledgeable about the NFL poster on this board.

And Russell Wilson has been quite inconsistent this season. But by anybody QB standards and considering his injuries - still very good. However his play is not good enough for the Seahawks to win a Super Bowl - he has to play much better. I wonder if both his brand empire building and his diva wife is taking up too much of his mental energy?
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:34 am

savvyman wrote:Wow - what a special date December 24th is.

We have the initial visit of the baby Jesus.

We have the annual visit from Old St Nick down the chimney.

And we have the return visit of Anthony.

Welcome Back Anthony - You were missed - Merry Christmas.

About HC however you couldn't be more wrong - he is a great fan and arguably the most knowledgeable about the NFL poster on this board.

And Russell Wilson has been quite inconsistent this season. But by anybody QB standards and considering his injuries - still very good. However his play is not good enough for the Seahawks to win a Super Bowl - he has to play much better. I wonder if both his brand empire building and his diva wife is taking up too much of his mental energy?


Good one Savvy
As for Russ i am beginning to wonder if the celebrity lifestyle is taking a toll. He just doesn't seem as sharp lately.
To be fair he played a lot of the season with as many as 3 separate injuries and the line isn't good, certainly not in his worse games other than GB which was his worst game ever.
But hes missed wide open guys repeatedly from a clean pocket.That's a new phenomenon, especially multiple times in a game.

I never see the "no time to sleep" on facebook anymore. If hes up late it might be for some other reasons than studying film now.
Don't misunderstand, I love Russ but something just isn't quite the same as his pinnacle last year right now.

However I sat through the 2012 debacle At the Clink.Compared to that 40 % completion clunker he looked like Dan Marino yesterday.
2 weeks later vs the saints I watched Russ throw for a little over 100 yards with one great throw to Baldwin on a critical 3rd down as Beast mode and the D carried us to the Championship.
Another slow start vs the 9ers including a fumble on our end and then the amazing 4th down throw to Kearse and the Sherm and Smith save. Then the Superbowl where Russ was almost perfect.

If Russ could play 4 quarters like the last 2 hed put up 8 TD's and 62 points. Who knows.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby savvyman » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:42 am

Thanks Hawktawk.

Being a starting NFL QB for a team on the Path to reaching the Super Bowl is a full time job for sure.

Building and running a Brand Empire is also a full time job.

Making sure that a Diva like his new wife has the attention that she would demand is also a full time job.

Now trying to do all three at the same time? This would mentally sap anyone...... Including both Superman and Russell Wilson - and might help to explain why Russell has not been as sharp as he has been in prior seasons.

Merry Christmas!
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:52 am

Correction I was referring to 2013 week 16 vs AZ. Point being Russ is actually scoring way better the past 2 games than 2013 at this point in the season and we won a super bowl. Of course we had the LOB and Beast and HFA.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby RiverDog » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:07 am

1) that isn't going to happen because it isn't true, if we aren't comparing it to last year's line, what the hell are we going to compare it to?


How about to our two previous Super Bowl teams. After all, that is the goal here, to win the SB.

2) you and many others WANTED better pass protection, well, you GOT it, and now you don't like it? Sorry and sh#t but that's the way it goes.


Speaking for myself, I did not want better pass protection per se. I wanted a better offensive line, with pass protection being a major component. This offense is way worse in run blocking, as witnessed by that sorry performance at the goal line.

3) the continued lamenting about the $$$'s spent is ignorant at best, and downright stupid at worst. Truth is, you do NOT build a line through free agency, it doesn't work that way, and ANYONE that understands even a little bit about team building KNOWS that. Truth is there is NEVER a glut of quality lineman on the market, the ONLY way to build and improve a line is through drafting and developing said line. You can supplement with a free agent occasionally, but build one? No.


I understand why we can't spend a ton of money on the OL. But we spend less on the OL than any other team and we aren't even close to the next lowest. But it isn't just what we spend. It's the amount of turnover we've had, our inability to develop what talent we have had to a point where we feel they're worth a 2nd contract.

4) that "horrid" line from last year, was a line that had three of five starters from a SB team, players most here continue to Pine for to this day. Why? Because as I seem to have to do repeatedly, those players were pretty damn good when they were HERE despite these same types of arguments. I will say this again, just like I did last year, and the year before, AND the year before, these lineman are NFL starting caliber players, AND in three or four years you will all be lamenting then leaving and being overpaid for another team ( just like Carpenter, Sweezy, Guacomini and Okung) it's what you guys do.


All that means is that we either did a poor job of identifying talent or a poor job in developing it. So pick your poison.
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Re: Official Seahawks vs Cardinals Christmas Eve GAME Thread

Postby RiverDog » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:20 am

Hawktawk wrote: He would have come all the way back to get the lead but for HAUSCHKA!!!!!

Talk About the teflon man. The loss is as much on him as anyone. Its a far different mentality on both sides of the ball if its FG or enjoy your plane ride on O and defend the win if your seattle on D.
And if he doesn't chunk his pathetically low FG kick that barely cleared the lineman's helmets before being swatted away its TD or go home in spite of everything else and it would have been hail mary time. The way the game went it probably would have worked anyway.. Granted the sack on 3rd down made it 45 instead of 35.
Last but not least the man hooked a NINETEEN yard FG in AZ or the Hawks are still in the 2 hole. It scares the crap out of me every time he lines up anymore. Hes making 3 million bucks a season for this????


The missed XP looked to me that he pulled it because he was getting so much pressure from his right. Had he kicked it straight, it looked to me like it would be blocked. Our entire special teams effort was pretty poor. In any event, except for what little difference playing one point behind vs. being tied had on play calling, the missed XP turned out not to be a difference maker. We would have lost by 2 instead of 3.

Hauschka had a bad year this season, no doubt about it, and it will be interesting to see if we bring in another kicker next year to compete with him. But a lot of kickers had a bad year. The moving of the XP attempts really showed up this season.

Keep in mind that the last AZ game was another horrible performance by our offense. It was one of 3 games where our offense hasn't played well enough to muster even a single TD. THAT was the root cause of our losses, not some poor little kicker.
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