Down goes Detroit

[Hawktawk]

Seattle controls its destiny to the #2 seed once again.

[jshawaii22]

And I'll be the first to say it. If we don't win out, we don't DESERVE to be the #2 seed. Period.

[obiken]

And I'll be the first to say it. If we don't win out, we don't DESERVE to be the #2 seed. Period.

As Yoda said, We will be!

[Zorn76]

Cards and 49ers for and home and away to close season.

Az limping at 5-7-1, and we will be plenty motivated to stay ahead of the Lions for playoff seeding.
Naturally, we Have to take care of business. No b.s. to end the year.

We have issues - every team does - but a #2 finish would go a long way for our SB chances.

[Hawktawk]

I agree if Seattle can't sweep this they are too weak to go very far in this loaded conference .

[savvyman]

2nd seed - a week off and first Playoff Game at Home? I'll take it.

[HumanCockroach]

Eh, if they win more games or have a higher win percentage than the any other eligible NFC team, they "deserve" the second seed, whether they drop another one or not.

Never believed in the " they didn't earn it if they didn't do what I want" thought process, that's what records and standings are for after all.

[RiverDog]

And I'll be the first to say it. If we don't win out, we don't DESERVE to be the #2 seed. Period.

Agreed times 2.

[Hawktawk]

Eh, if they win more games or have a higher win percentage than the any other eligible NFC team, they "deserve" the second seed, whether they drop another one or not.

Never believed in the " they didn't earn it if they didn't do what I want" thought process, that's what records and standings are for after all.

Thats a good point. And no Giants were complaining after winning it all in 2011 as a 9-7 team either.

My hunch is that if they cant beat the two teams in front of them and guarantee their status I have a tough time seeing them handling the cream of the crop of a suddenly loaded conference.

But that is pure speculation as well. This is the most bipolar team Pete has had in the championship opportunity era so who knows.

[Agent 86]

A Seahawks win at home over Arizona this week coupled with a Lions and Falcons loss will also clinch the #2 seed I believe.

Falcons at Panthers
Lions at Cowboys

Hoping the Giants win on Thursday night to pull within a game of Dallas to keep the 'Boys motivated to win on Monday night.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

If anything, Seattle needs to show consistency over the last two games. They drop one of those because of a stinker on offense, then I'll be extremely worried.

[RiverDog]

A Seahawks win at home over Arizona this week coupled with a Lions and Falcons loss will also clinch the #2 seed I believe.

Falcons at Panthers
Lions at Cowboys

Hoping the Giants win on Thursday night to pull within a game of Dallas to keep the 'Boys motivated to win on Monday night.

Don't sleep on the Giants. The above scenario would not preclude them from getting the 2 seed.

And not only that, but the Giants and have beaten the Cowboys twice. If the Giants win out and the Cowboys lose out, they could end up with not only the 2 seed, they could still get HFA if we were to lose 1 of our last 2.

[NorthHawk]

If anything, Seattle needs to show consistency over the last two games. They drop one of those because of a stinker on offense, then I'll be extremely worried.

According to PFT, the Broncos are experiencing a rift because of the lack of production on Offense.
Check this out:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... se-divide/

It's a tribute to Pete that this hasn't happened or become public if it has. I wonder if Sherman was a symptom of it or a greater issue.

[RiverDog]

According to PFT, the Broncos are experiencing a rift because of the lack of production on Offense.
Check this out:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... se-divide/

It's a tribute to Pete that this hasn't happened or become public if it has. I wonder if Sherman was a symptom of it or a greater issue.

If Carolina loses tonight to drop to 5-9, I'd love to be a fly in their locker room.

[Hawk Sista]

And not only that, but the Giants and have beaten the Cowboys twice. If the Giants win out and the Cowboys lose out, they could end up with not only the 2 seed, they could still get HFA if we were to lose 1 of our last 2.

The Giants cannot be the #2 seed. If they win out and Dallas loses out, they will become the #1 seed and Dallas will be the #5 seed. The top four seeds are for Division winners - it isn't ranked based on the record of the top six teams from each conference. It is the Division winners ranked 1-4 and then the two wild card teams.

[RiverDog]

The Giants cannot be the #2 seed. If they win out and Dallas loses out, they will become the #1 seed and Dallas will be the #5 seed. The top four seeds are for Division winners - it isn't ranked based on the record of the top six teams from each conference. It is the Division winners ranked 1-4 and then the two wild card teams.

Good point.

[c_hawkbob]

And not only that, but the Giants and have beaten the Cowboys twice. If the Giants win out and the Cowboys lose out, they could end up with not only the 2 seed, they could still get HFA if we were to lose 1 of our last 2.

The Giants cannot be the #2 seed. If they win out and Dallas loses out, they will become the #1 seed and Dallas will be the #5 seed. The top four seeds are for Division winners - it isn't ranked based on the record of the top six teams from each conference. It is the Division winners ranked 1-4 and then the two wild card teams.

Thank you.

[Hawktawk]

A Seahawks win at home over Arizona this week coupled with a Lions and Falcons loss will also clinch the #2 seed I believe.

Falcons at Panthers
Lions at Cowboys

Hoping the Giants win on Thursday night to pull within a game of Dallas to keep the 'Boys motivated to win on Monday night.

You are correct sir. A Hawks win coupled with lions and Falcons losses and Seattle is the 2 seed Monday night. I'd love that. Get the young guys some minutes in week 17

[HumanCockroach]

If anything, Seattle needs to show consistency over the last two games. They drop one of those because of a stinker on offense, then I'll be extremely worried.

I have to be honest, for whatever reason Seattle could clunk the next two games, and I would STILL like their chances. It's crap teams like St.Louis, Arizona, Miami, etc that worry me with this team, not teams like NE...... It's supposed to be "every week is a championship game" but this season in particular it doesn't feel that way ( as well as blips the last couple years like Tampa at home).

This team has little issue "getting up" for big games, but often times I feel like certain teams they know they should beat get played close and less aggressively ( both by the players and coaches like they think " we can win with just enough if we protect players and dial back the playbook") which makes them susceptible to losses to inferior opponents.

[NorthHawk]

They should have been ready for the Packers, but they weren't. The Bears had a better Offense than we did against GB, so inconsistency seems to rule the day for us.
When I look around the league, I see teams getting better and us sliding a little.
That's what has me worried.

[Hawktawk]

They should have been ready for the Packers, but they weren't. The Bears had a better Offense than we did against GB, so inconsistency seems to rule the day for us.
When I look around the league, I see teams getting better and us sliding a little.

That's what has me worried.

Yes and no. At our best we beat the Patriots in Foxboro when they had the lead in the 4th quarter. At our worst was pretty bad vs the Pack.
Regardless of that outcome the teams are very close in talent and Seattle not only blew wide open TD chances but handed over 6 turnovers.

That isn't going to happen at the Clink. Rodgers is a different player on the road. that whole team is.

But you're right, this team is as bipolar as I am.

[HumanCockroach]

Interesting that you saw it that way, what I saw was a bi polar GB team that is closer to the Bears level, than a SB contenders. One that can't stop the run, cover very well without blatant defensive holding, can't protect the QB without holding, and is relying on a converted receiver to manufacture a running game, a QB that when pressured consistently isn't accurate..... You know, the same team they have been for going on half a decade now.

GB continues to be WAY over rated, and has been since their last SB, I understand the media hyping them, just like Dallas, SF, or any other model team, it surprises me that fans continue to do it as well.

GB has some star players, and a whole lot of nothing else. Doesn't mean those stars can't beat any other team, but as far as threats, IMHO the belong WAY down that list, somewhere around Washington, honestly, I don't even believe they are going to be IN the playoffs much less knocking Seattle out at home.

[RiverDog]

They should have been ready for the Packers, but they weren't. The Bears had a better Offense than we did against GB, so inconsistency seems to rule the day for us.
When I look around the league, I see teams getting better and us sliding a little.
That's what has me worried.

I can see your line of thinking. But I do I like our chances as a #2 seed. I have a feeling that Dallas might get knocked off early.

[Hawk Sista]

HA! You are only saying that because they always do, RD. That said, I kept waiting for Dak and the Girls to let off a stinker, but they really never have. Maybe this is their year?

Actually.... If I'm objective, we just don't seem to have it right now. But the truth is, this is a team that "can" get into a groove and win it all. We could also lose out and lose to the Giants or Bux in week one of the playoffs. I'm not sure why I feel hopeful after losing to Green Bay by 28. Perhaps it is the consistent results PC coached teams have produce over time???

[Hawktawk]

Seattles path to a week 16 clinch is extremely plausible following what I saw Sunday night and again monday. Carolina looks more like the team that was a league powerhouse than the team that went 1-5 or even the one seattle spanked 3 weeks ago. They shut down a red hot Redskins passing game and absolutely crushed their run game at Fed ex. Now they get the Falcons in front of their home crowd.

And can Dallas beat Detroit?
I think so......

[Hawktawk]

[quote="Hawk Sista" kept waiting for Dak and the Girls to let off a stinker, but they really never have. Maybe this is their year?

Actually.... If I'm objective, we just don't seem to have it right now. I'm not sure why I feel hopeful after losing to Green Bay by 28. Perhaps it is the consistent results PC coached teams have produce over time???[/quote]

I've told this story ad nauseum but it fits the narrative. In the middle of the 1994 season the Cunningham led Eagles were destroying the 9ers at candlestick like 40 something to 7. Steve young was yanked after several turnovers and the good mormon boy stood on the sidelines dropping F bombs in coach Seifert's ear.Word around the league was the team was in disarray.
A couple of months later they drilled the Chargers in the Superbowl and Young threw 6 TD passes to win MVP honors.

We Seahawks fans are so spoiled by their incredible determination and competitiveness we don't know how to process a blowout anymore. Personally I was quite optimistic immediately following that loss to GB.
Uncharacteristic mistakes coupled with Rodgers being off the hook accuracy wise is the whole story of the game.24 of the 28 point lead came off turnovers. 2 wide open TD throws were missed by Russ and one more was dropped.
2 turnovers occurred in field goal range.Several others gave the Pack a very short field.
Eliminate those mistakes which were largely unforced it could have easily been a Seahawks win.

It was one of those days and proved nothing more than that Seattle's great players are human and can indeed have that type of day.
Seattle has proven time and again over the last 5 years they are capable of beating anyone, anywhere, playing any type of game whether smash mouth or pile on the score.

I feel confident.

[HumanCockroach]

What he said ^^^^^^^^

[burrrton]

I've told this story ad nauseum but it fits the narrative. In the middle of the 1994 season the Cunningham led Eagles were destroying the 9ers at candlestick like 40 something to 7. Steve young was yanked after several turnovers and the good mormon boy stood on the sidelines dropping F bombs in coach Seifert's ear.Word around the league was the team was in disarray.
A couple of months later they drilled the Chargers in the Superbowl and Young threw 6 TD passes to win MVP honors.

We Seahawks fans are so spoiled by their incredible determination and competitiveness we don't know how to process a blowout anymore. Personally I was quite optimistic immediately following that loss to GB.
Uncharacteristic mistakes coupled with Rodgers being off the hook accuracy wise is the whole story of the game.24 of the 28 point lead came off turnovers. 2 wide open TD throws were missed by Russ and one more was dropped.
2 turnovers occurred in field goal range.Several others gave the Pack a very short field.
Eliminate those mistakes which were largely unforced it could have easily been a Seahawks win.

It was one of those days and proved nothing more than that Seattle's great players are human and can indeed have that type of day.
Seattle has proven time and again over the last 5 years they are capable of beating anyone, anywhere, playing any type of game whether smash mouth or pile on the score.

I feel confident.

I like the cut of this guy's jib.

[RiverDog]

HA! You are only saying that because they always do, RD. That said, I kept waiting for Dak and the Girls to let off a stinker, but they really never have. Maybe this is their year?

Actually.... If I'm objective, we just don't seem to have it right now. But the truth is, this is a team that "can" get into a groove and win it all. We could also lose out and lose to the Giants or Bux in week one of the playoffs. I'm not sure why I feel hopeful after losing to Green Bay by 28. Perhaps it is the consistent results PC coached teams have produce over time???

Not J/B the 'Boys always get knocked off early. They are starting a rookie QB and they've shown a weakness against teams like Tampa and the Giants (Tampa turned the ball over 4 times and still nearly beat them). They could face either in the 2nd round. They do not have an intimidating HFA. I think that they're ripe for an upset.

As far as our own chances, I'm always hopeful, but I've learned to lower my expectations. This team does not have the same feel to it that the 2013 and 2014 teams had.

[Hawktawk]

Rd I hope you're right about Dallas but I know you are yet to recognize how formidable Tampa bay is.
The road loss broke a 5 game and 7 of 9 win streak. And yeah they turned it over 4 times and almost beat a team whose qb flirted with an NFL record for percentage of completion and the best running back and offensive line in the league for quite a while performing at a very high level.
You underestimateTampa and therefore Dallas .

Either team will be an extremely tough out .

[RiverDog]

Rd I hope you're right about Dallas but I know you are yet to recognize how formidable Tampa bay is.
The road loss broke a 5 game and 7 of 9 win streak. And yeah they turned it over 4 times and almost beat a team whose qb flirted with an NFL record for percentage of completion and the best running back and offensive line in the league for quite a while performing at a very high level.
You underestimateTampa and therefore Dallas .

Either team will be an extremely tough out .

What gave you the impression that I'm underestimating Tampa Bay? They beat us, kept us from scoring a TD. I would not be surprised at all if they were to beat us in the playoffs, and do it in our house.

ANY playoff quality team has the ability to beat us ANY where. That's what I meant when I said that this team doesn't have the same feel to it as '13 and '14, actually the '12 team as well. In those seasons, I would have bet a hefty sum of money on us to beat any other NFC opponent. In each of those years, I had the feeling that we were the best team in the NFC. I didn't get that feeling last year and I don't have that impression this season.

But if we do get the 2 seed, I still like our chances, which means I think it's 50%+ against any given team. Even so, it's still a much lower percentage that I would have assigned in '12-'14.

[Hawk Sista]

While I sports hate the Packers more than the Bux (& therefor hated to lose to them (BIG) much more) the loss to TB felt like a worse loss. 6 turnovers w/ weird and unfavorable bounces against the Packers - it was a stinker/clunker for sure. Tampa Bay mauled us. The latter scares me more moving forward and I can almost chalk the GB loss up to a fluke.

[Hawktawk]

Detroit is not cooperating so far. Never trust another team to do your bidding.

[Hawktawk]

Never mind lol
Come on saints