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by **HumanCockroach** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:32 pm

Have to admit I didn't think that would ever happen. Truth be told, I never had much dislike of the Pats team, or it's fans, yet today that has ALL changed. The fans irritated me quite a bit this past couple weeks with their stupidity, arrogance and moronic insitance of things that were either simply made up, or obscenely ignorant. I was able to for the most part simply ignore that stuff as "trash talk" false bravado stuff before the game, but the Pats insistence on insulting specific players from the Seahawks as a way to "celebrate" their victory ( especially one they are pretty damn lucky to BE celebrating) is about as classless as an organisation, and team ( not to mention the undying support of it's classy fans doing so) has shifted that for me....

I've hated the Niners pretty much my ENTIRE life, and cannot stomach the arrogance of it's fans, the lack of knowledge, the lack of respect, and the never wavering "ring" argument ( especially from a bunch of thug wannabe's that are all of 16 years old), but to the best of my knowledge, the Niners haven't publicly mocked, and then been backed up by their arrogant, ignorant fans, another teams players. We aren't talking about "bad blood" spilling into an interview between two players, this is a complete lack of respect for an entire organisation and fan base, that last I checked had indeed gotten to the SB twice in a row, won the first, and was a yard from beating those Pats ( honestly not a Pat fan or player should feel anything but LUCKY to be celebrating, with the exception of maybe Butler).

Would Seattle have done that?? I kind of doubt it, and yet Seattle players are "thugs" and lack class?? Seriously??

From this moment forward, I will NEVER root for a Pats win, even if they face the Niners, even if it helps the Hawks, far as I'm concerned I hope they turn into the Browns, and NEVER appear in the playoffs again, hell, I hope they NEVER win another game. I USED to respect certain players, coaches, and even had a begrudged respect for some of the fans, that all ended today. F*ck the Patriots, and anyone ( yep even you Browner) that plays for them.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/23 ... ory-parade

by **NorthHawk** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:49 pm

To the victors go the spoils.
We had our chance but didn't pull it off.
That's the way it goes.

by **monkey** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:51 pm

Huh...I think they spelled "Cheat Mode" wrong on that shirt.

by **Futureite** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:00 pm

Kinda how I felt when some guy screamed about our sorry receiver after a game. You live by the sword, you die by it. Sucks that anyone feels the need to show up the other team after a win, no matter whose team it is. But the Hawks have been doing it a long, long time. So you cannot complain now.

by **Zorn76** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:04 pm

I couldn't care less what the Pats and their organization/fans say.

It'll be that much sweeter I guess if we get a rematch and beat them. We should've been able to do it anyway, as we (and even they) know.

The great thing is we're still a young team, and locking up as many cornerstone pieces as possible moving forward.

by **HumanCockroach** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:59 pm

At least I don't have to see the stupidity on this thread as Future has been ignored. My guess would be some completely uncomparable assessment of Sherman in the heat of the moment calling out Crabtree.... He waits for his shots, then takes them when he can.

Lynch hasn't said a damn thing to anyone, and certainly is 10 times the player Pothead Blunt will ever be, and this happened 3 days later, not 3 minutes....

Guess that whole " My Dad taught me the right way to win" thing Brady was trumpeting, went right the F out the window, Bill's "respect your opponent" also, right the F out the window.

North you are right to the victor goes the spoils, but there isn't a team in my 30+ years that has spent their SB parade taking personal shots at their opponent, you? Seattle certainly COULD have done that last season, and didn't, for a team of "trash talking thugs" there are VERY few examples of that stuff, and yet, here like the rest of the media, fans and nation we are to turn a blind eye?

Nah, this should get the SAME response ( and more since it isn't and wasn't in the heat of the moment) that Shermans rant got, but won't, the same repsonse the U mad Bro got, but won't, why I wonder, is there something to be said for being "golden boy" Tommy who somehow avoids being called on what he is ( EXACTLY the same as Sherman, a trash talking player that excells) and I do indeed wonder if somehow the color of the "jersey" involved allows him to do so.

by **jshawaii22** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:30 pm

With what's going on in Santa Clara, they won't be an issue for a few years anyway!

But to the point of this blog, you're missing what started this in the first place.... "you mad bro?" you can't be upset with one teams fans when we started it and pounced all over it. That was the game that kind of started the ball rolling for us, too. The game that our eyes lit up with the 'potential' of the team and started giving us national press coverage that had been non-existent since '06.

js

by **HumanCockroach** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:49 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:With what's going on in Santa Clara, they won't be an issue for a few years anyway!

But to the point of this blog, you're missing what started this in the first place.... "you mad bro?" you can't be upset with one teams fans when we started it and pounced all over it. That was the game that kind of started the ball rolling for us, too. The game that our eyes lit up with the 'potential' of the team and started giving us national press coverage that had been non-existent since '06.

js

I'm not sure what you are saying JS... I seem to remember plenty of blowback because Sherman called Brady on his hypocracy ( and it was not Sherman that initially tweeted that, but he did indeed retweat it) am I to understand that the players and fans that ripped Sherman as classless, are to be applauded for doing the same thing?

You all are welcome to your opinions on that, but at no point have I seen Lynch say boo about the chumps currently residing in the Pats backfield, I don't recall much of anything actually directed at Brady or the Pats, if you want to say that tweet "started" it, be my guest, it isn't ( that was Brady in the Papers the week before, taking shots at the Seattle fans, not it's players but fans) if Brady wanted to take a stab at Sherm, so be it, I would be right there with you folks, If Gronk wanted to take a shot at Lane, I would be ok with it, but that is NOT what we are talking about.

by **monkey** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:58 pm

HumanCockroach wrote: I do indeed wonder if somehow the color of the "jersey" involved allows him to do so.

Come now Human Cockroach, do you really believe that the color of a players "jersey" matters to people in Boston?

Yeah, so do I! :lol:

by **Hawktawk** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:09 pm

I hate Shitburgh. That game was such an abortion and the officiating was biased. If nothing else they were the favorite son. This game was a fair game. We were right there but we lost. Honestly I respect the Pats more after the game. I really hope we get the chance to return the favor next year.

by **Agent 86** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:56 pm

Did I miss something? Did Lynch do are say something? Did they make those shirts in response to his media relations through the week?

I get the Edelman sign about Sherman, kinda funny I guess, and Sherm deserves some payback. He's got to take it as he likes to dish it out, and from what I have seen and read, what Edelman did was not a low blow, unless again I missed something. Sure, taking a shot at a player at your Super Bowl parade is kinda wrong, but if I were a Pats fan, I would be loving that cause I know I would probably hate Sherman.

But what the heck are Blount and Bolden doing with those shirts? It really doesn't make any sense, it's not even funny.

Is there an explanation behind the reasoning for them printing those shirts?

by **Futureite** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:10 pm

Aw, HC. It would take 5 freaking pages to list all of the taunts the Seahawks have handed out, from "U mad Bro?", to Bennet's endless cracks like saying Sanchez should "be arrested for impersonating a QB", to Baldwin pretending to take a dump aimed at Revis, to SB week Sherman saying Brady "Is not who he pretends to be off the field" to during the game saying "he's scared. He's lost his heart. It's almost gone", to Lynch wearing Golden Spikes because he was going to "stomp out the Packers". Or we could talk about the 5,000 times I've heard or read "42-13", or your very polite corner's choke sign aimed at our QB and his sorry receiver rant. This is about 1/100th of the garbage spewed by this team over the past 3 years.

These guys are the freaking kings of demeaning other players, the integrity of other people, and entire organization. The FN kings. And they always do it after the game, when no one can really respond. Now HC is upset. Too bad, so sad. That is life.

Ironically, I take no pride is demeaning other people and a part of me feels real bad for you guys right now. If I could waive a wand and chose for it not to happen to you, I would. Yes, it is only a game. But it still hurts.

The other side of me says, though I don't revel in this sort of thing, this is what happens in life. It's what you can expect when you endlessly dish on other people. Maybe these young guys will learn something from this about how to respect other people.

by **Futureite** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:16 pm

And for the record, I am not for kicking a man (or a 12th man) when he is down. You guys will be back no doubt, and like I said after that 2012 Thursday Night game, no doubt the future is bright.

Peace

by **HumanCockroach** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:20 pm

Ah, Future, While I'm sure your "objectivity" is exceptionally on display, as I've said, you bottom feeder are on ignore, and while I enjoyed my time calling out your lies, I've decided to abide by the majority of the boards wishes, and ignore your trollish comments, and foolishnes. No longer will I indulge in pointing out your made up hyperbole, or outright lies. So adoo Future. Pound sand.

by **HumanCockroach** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:32 pm

Agent 86 wrote:Did I miss something? Did Lynch do are say something? Did they make those shirts in response to his media relations through the week?

I get the Edelman sign about Sherman, kinda funny I guess, and Sherm deserves some payback. He's got to take it as he likes to dish it out, and from what I have seen and read, what Edelman did was not a low blow, unless again I missed something. Sure, taking a shot at a player at your Super Bowl parade is kinda wrong, but if I were a Pats fan, I would be loving that cause I know I would probably hate Sherman.

But what the heck are Blount and Bolden doing with those shirts? It really doesn't make any sense, it's not even funny.

Is there an explanation behind the reasoning for them printing those shirts?

It was the Lynch thing that boiled my blood, the man hasn't said a single disparaging word I've heard publicly about a single football player in the league, though I suppose Blount does strike me as someone that is dumb enough to believe somehow his brief made up statements in the fake pro football mock thing are real ( at least if these actions, and many others are any indication) truth is Lynch punched that defense around the field all game, Blount provided next to nothing, and if indeed Lynch had been given one or two more carries the Pats would not be feeling real positive right now....

As for Sherman, I suppose he "had it coming" and I don't think I would have batted an eye if Brady had said something, posted something, or had indeed held that sign up, but to the best of MY knowledge, Edelman, hasn't come close to matching the accomplishments of Sherman, nor has Gronk... I said earlier that while expect some stuff to be said ( well warranted) to make it a focus of your SB parade??

People can claim that Seattle talks a lot, or starts a lot, and so they have it "coming" which all fine and dandy, until anyone with half a brain realises that by doing so ( and no Seattle did NOT do something of this nature, no matter how many people want to say they did, did Seattle hold up signs mocking Manning? Thomas? Moreno? Pot Roast? Anyone from that Denver team they actually rolled during the SB parade??) You are doing EXACTLY what you railed against in the first place. It's fine and dandy to judge others, call them thugs, or children, say they need to "grow" up or any number of other things, but IMHO you had better NOT act that way ( which in this case NE isn't anyway) if you want to do so and keep your credibility in tact. A parent doesn't chastise a child for being careless and then turn around and do the same thing ( or in this case worse) the child was doing....

Anyone that had a problem with how Seattle acted, that is now defending said action of the Patriotsare sinking below that level they accused Seattle of being, because at this point they are not only approving of the actions they so desperately attempted to disparage, but they are adding to it the hypocracy of saying it's ok for these guys, but not those...

by **jshawaii22** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:25 am

HC Posted: Have to admit I didn't think that would ever happen. Truth be told, I never had much dislike of the Pats team, or it's fans, yet today that has ALL changed. The fans irritated me quite a bit this past couple weeks with their stupidity, arrogance and moronic insitance of things that were either simply made up, or obscenely ignorant. I was able to for the most part simply ignore that stuff as "trash talk" false bravado stuff before the game, but the Pats insistence on insulting specific players from the Seahawks as a way to "celebrate" their victory ( especially one they are pretty damn lucky to BE celebrating) is about as classless as an organisation, and team ( not to mention the undying support of it's classy fans doing so) has shifted that for me....

I'm probably reading this statement wrong, but isn't this exactly what Sherman was portraying that night a couple of years ago? Seems to me that "You Mad Bro" would constitute Trash Talking and Bravado. What am I missing?

js

by **RiverDog** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:33 am

I can't see 'hating' a team (don't like that term) that's not even in the same conference we're in and that we play just once in 4 years in the regular season. If we are as fortunate to get a rematch in the SB again, then maybe. And with Hairball out of the picture, I have even lost my disdain for the 49'ers, at least temporarily. The only team that I truly dislike is the Cowboys, and that's j/b of their owner.

by **mykc14** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:03 am

jshawaii22 wrote:HC Posted: Have to admit I didn't think that would ever happen. Truth be told, I never had much dislike of the Pats team, or it's fans, yet today that has ALL changed. The fans irritated me quite a bit this past couple weeks with their stupidity, arrogance and moronic insitance of things that were either simply made up, or obscenely ignorant. I was able to for the most part simply ignore that stuff as "trash talk" false bravado stuff before the game, but the Pats insistence on insulting specific players from the Seahawks as a way to "celebrate" their victory ( especially one they are pretty damn lucky to BE celebrating) is about as classless as an organisation, and team ( not to mention the undying support of it's classy fans doing so) has shifted that for me....

I'm probably reading this statement wrong, but isn't this exactly what Sherman was portraying that night a couple of years ago? Seems to me that "You Mad Bro" would constitute Trash Talking and Bravado. What am I missing?

js

In a lot of ways that was a completely different situation. It was on the field after the game, a game in which Tom Brady had been talking trash (during the actual game and before) and at one point told Sherm and ET specifically to "see me after the game." This situation is days later and I don't have a huge problem with them calling out Sherm a little but why Beast Mode, especially coming from their PEDESTRIAN RB's.

by **HumanCockroach** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:23 am

Sometimes I really do think it has to do with the image fostered by Brady, the Patriots and the NFL in creating the idea that they are a "model" franchise ( ignoring numerous infractions) I don't understand those oh so willing to look the other way in this instance. Had Sherman held up a sign that said " Manning = Ducks" or " Seahawks have as many rings as Manning" during the parade last season, people would have across the board lost their shitzels, INCLUDING those on this board, yet somehow, this is ok, and it's ok amongst many Hawks fans??? What am I missing??

As Sherm said" people get a skewed view of Brady" ( curtesy of every media outlet, and the NFL) and it appears it extends to the entire low class Patriots team. ( For the love of God, it was Legarrette Blount, if there is a better embodiment of a "low class" player, I'ld be hard pressed to find one) and it seems it extends beyond Pats, the media, and the fans of other teams.

It makes me sad to see so many Hawks fans, cool with Blount and Vereen taking shots at a man that is the heart of this team, and has been for years. Name the time Lynch talked smack about ANY player in the NFL? If that was shots at Wilson, I PROMISE there would be folks cool with the shots on Lynch and Sherman, that would be irrate, something wrong with that, IMHO.

by **NorthHawk** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:12 am

I'm beginning to really dislike Edelman.
I'm hoping he was a little "Over refreshed" and got caught up in the moment.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patrio ... s-seahawks

by **HumanCockroach** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:50 pm

Like I said earlier, I actually respected some of those players, coaches etc, Edelman WAS one of those, as was Gronk and a few others ( Browner, Revis etc) that all ended with that parade, and their stupid actions.

by **Hawktawk** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:32 pm

Edleman is probably still suffering the after effects of the concussion. Probably the steroids too the guy is twice as thick as he was a couple of years ago. Blount has had too many blunts. Gronk is a clown.

by **Futureite** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:54 am

NorthHawk wrote:I'm beginning to really dislike Edelman.
I'm hoping he was a little "Over refreshed" and got caught up in the moment.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patrio ... s-seahawks

I decided to let whomever of you want call me a troll. If you (collectively speaking) cannot take an alternative viewpoint and hit the ignore button, that shows a lot to me.

Now as to Edelman, he basically insulted Joe Montana, claiming Joe had X, Y and Z. Made what he did sound so easy, and Brady is clearly better. So if there is anyone that has a reason to hate him as much as you guys, it is me. I don't.

He's pulling a complete Richard Sherman here. He is doing the exact same things Sherman does. You can see now that it will get under your skin, even if you ignore it. A Pat fan could offer the same replies I often read here - "he's just being honest", "he's showing emotion and passion" or "he backs up his talk" or my favorite "he's in your head". But no matter how you slice it, it's still very disrespectful and any human being that has invested any time following a sport will be annoyed.

Richard Sherman literally asked for this by taunting Revis on the sideline. As I said before, I'd prefer no one gets taunted. Even Richard Sherman. But he is definitely, without a doubt getting what he deserves. I am sure he has bigger things on his mind though after the birth of his son. That probably diverted all of the attention he'd normally devote to something like this. Hopefully he is enjoying life with his new son Raydon.

by **HumanCockroach** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:12 pm

There you go RD or Makena, sick him..... I don't know what he is saying, I could pose a "guess" and I would probably hit the mark, but as you two are pretty much the only ones that entertain his "objective" posts any longer, and despite the over whelming board ignoring him ( to which he has claimed numerous times he would take a powder and hasn't), and despite the fact I am 100% or very close to it, sure this is some sort of dig on Sherman ( his go to whine) or the team as a whole, I'm not interested in even "suffering the fools" any longer, so I leave it to those that "respect a different view" to smack him down for those of us, that have long since moved on from it.

by **kalibane** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:14 pm

Nah Edelman talking doesn't bother me he earned the right to talk, he just looks stupid for how he's going about it.

Tom Brady threw the ball 50 times and only targeted Sherman once even though he had torn ligaments in his elbow. Sherman lined up all over the field and Edelman couldn't get open on him even out of the slot which is Edelman's specialty. But you turn around and single out Sherman? You look dumb.

Lagarrette Blount had 40 yards rushing. Lynch had 102 and a TD. And the only reason you're having your victory parade is because they DIDN'T give Lynch the ball. But Blount wants to call out Lynch? You look dumb.

I'm betting a lot of Sherman haters would say that you reap what you sow, or Edelman is doing the same thing Sherman does. It's not. Sherman talks trash before and after and generally backs it up. Edelman was quiet all week then waited to get to Boston to pop off about a guy he couldn't get open against. Again... you look dumb.

by **Hawk Sista** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:38 pm

Tom Brady threw the ball 50 times and only targeted Sherman once even though he had torn ligaments in his elbow. Sherman lined up all over the field and Edelman couldn't get open on him even out of the slot which is Edelman's specialty. But you turn around and single out Sherman? You look dumb.

I dunno. I have to agree with "to the victor goes the spoils" here. I knew when Sherm was pointing at the score and show-boating that it would be "a thing" if we lost. We did, and it was. If Richard doesn't like it, he shouldn't showboat. That's his style and that's the result he's always going to get when the Hawks lose. Outside of Seahawk fans, I doubt there are very many people who thought that Sherm had a good game with Brady throwing two TDs in the 4th Q to overtake the Hawks. We all know that there was 1 completion for 6 yards in the entire game and that our banged up squad (absence of Lane etc) was the bigger culprit - but the rest of the football watching world loved seeing him have his mouth shut. The "you mad, bro?" thing is understandable to Hawk fans and Brady haters only. Most see it as classless, whether Brady was s#!+ talkin' or not. A lot of colleagues loved the loss because they HATE Sherman.

I also think most people thought that Blount was pretty classless with his shirt on parade day....even the Pats fans I know were embarrassed and he even apologized to @moneylynch. He's a loser.

by **HumanCockroach** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:53 pm

I suppose my issue with Edelman in this case, is he didn't do really anything of note other than run a bunch of short passes an a guy that wasn't even supposed to be on the field, it would be akin to Matthews talking smack during the parade directed at Edelman....

Doesn't mean Sherman didn't have it coming, and if it had been Brady that held up that sign, it wouldn't have bothered me in the least ( other than the setting being woefully inappropriate) but that is not who held up the sign, is it?

The Lynch thing is what really got my blood to boil, and that isn't about to change anytime soon.... If a player talks smack ( and yes that does include golden boy, or mediocre reciever, or Sherman) they get what they get, but, IMHO a SB parade is NOT the venue, not should it be a guy that got owned by Sherman taking shots. In Lynches case, he has never said anything about any player, or any team, and the shots taken at him were not just done in the wrong arena, but were completely false, stupid and in his case unwarranted.

by **kalibane** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:59 pm

Completely disagree. You can talk about how you were the better team. How you had a good game. If you want to single people out you can talk about how you abused Tharold Simon or you can even talk about the Legion of Boom AS A GROUP.

What you can't do is single out a guy who no one on your team could catch a ball on and your QB didn't even want to try. Neither winning, nor the fact that Sherman is a brash trash talker makes it reasonable to call him out. Sherman played a brilliant game. Roddy White had the requisite leverage to clown Sherman after the 2012 loss. Edleman did nothing against Sherman. He needs to let someone else talk if they are going to talk. He looks a lot like Jeremy Lane saying Gronk isn't all that good. Dude.. you look dumb.

by **HumanCockroach** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:35 pm

If that was directed at me Kal, that is what I was saying ( ie if Brady had wanted to take a shot at Sherman in retaliation for the U mad Bro thing, so be it at least about the rings, not necessarily any success he had on Sherman, because that amounted to none, even the one target was NOT at Sherman, it was a screen with Sherman dropping to a zone)... Edelman has nothing he can claim in any way on Shermanc and as I have said, if he wanted to say something, the SB parade wasn't the place to say it...

Can anyone imagine what the response nationally would have been had Sherman or a Seahawks player taken the parade as an opportunity to take shots at players from Denver???? OMG it would have been a non stop barage of insanity, but for some reason, NE has no issue pulling that crap.

by **kalibane** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:59 pm

My response was actually to Sis saying that "to the victor go the spoils". We were on the same page. It gets dicey when you say someone can't or even shouldn't be saying something because you can say all you want. But I'm not going to for a second say Edelman's behavior is to be expected or reasonable. It's front running which I like way less than trash talk.

The one thing I do disagree with is comparing it to what would have happened if the Seahawks had run down the Broncos. I agree it isn't exactly "winning or losing with grace" as Brady would put it... and I agree that the national reaction would have been a lot different had the Seahawks done it. That being said... I think the difference in reaction is in large part because the Seahawks did choose to wear the black hat. People have been waiting for them to get a comeuppance so in a way I do understand why the national reaction to the Patriots victory parade has been a collective shrug and that is in part something the Seahawks brought on themselves. So the reaction, or lack thereof, doesn't really bother me in the slightest.

by **Hawk Sista** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:09 pm

Completely disagree. You can talk about how you were the better team. How you had a good game. If you want to single people out you can talk about how you abused Tharold Simon or you can even talk about the Legion of Boom AS A GROUP.

What you can't do is single out a guy who no one on your team could catch a ball on and your QB didn't even want to try. Neither winning, nor the fact that Sherman is a brash trash talker makes it reasonable to call him out. Sherman played a brilliant game. Roddy White had the requisite leverage to clown Sherman after the 2012 loss. Edleman did nothing against Sherman. He needs to let someone else talk if they are going to talk. He looks a lot like Jeremy Lane saying Gronk isn't all that good. Dude.. you look dumb.

I understand your point, Kal. I am saying that to the masses, the perception is that Sherman LOST and got made fun of which is the price he pays for talking trash. And while you disagree, you fall decidedly into one of two groups I said would share your perception. "I" think Edleman looked like a tool as did Blount. That said, it was hardly a surprise that Richard's mouthing the score into the camera was going to be thrown back into his/our face. I do not think the majority of fans are looking at it like Edleman bested Sherm inasmuch as they see that the Pats bested the Hawks. And that they did.

I would hope that no player from my team behaved like the Pats did during the parade. I admittedly see the world through my green and blue goggles and believe that our team's antics are not as stupid (they make sense to me and made me laugh) and I categorize them differently than these two bone-headed displays (B---- Mode shirt and Sherman poster). At the same time, if a Patriot were pointing to the scoreboard and laughing and we came back and won, I imagine there would be a much more than just a casual mention of it, irrespective of the dude who made the comment. To illustrate my point, think back to Jeremy Shockey laughing at the Hawks for losing just as his kicker sailed the game winner wide. We put that idiot's stupid laugh in a GIF and laughed our collective asses off for weeks.... Shockey had 10 catches for 127 yards and a TD that day.... He had a whale of a game, but he made a very public mocking of us and got it thrown back in his face. Fair is fair.

by **Hawk Sista** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:19 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:I suppose my issue with Edelman in this case, is he didn't do really anything of note other than run a bunch of short passes an a guy that wasn't even supposed to be on the field, it would be akin to Matthews talking smack during the parade directed at Edelman....

Doesn't mean Sherman didn't have it coming, and if it had been Brady that held up that sign, it wouldn't have bothered me in the least ( other than the setting being woefully inappropriate) but that is not who held up the sign, is it?

The Lynch thing is what really got my blood to boil, and that isn't about to change anytime soon.... If a player talks smack ( and yes that does include golden boy, or mediocre reciever, or Sherman) they get what they get, but, IMHO a SB parade is NOT the venue, not should it be a guy that got owned by Sherman taking shots. In Lynches case, he has never said anything about any player, or any team, and the shots taken at him were not just done in the wrong arena, but were completely false, stupid and in his case unwarranted.

Sorry, but the Edleman hate seems sour grapes. Don't forget that we beat a very dinged up Denver team in the Super Bowl last year. We forget about that but say Simon wasn't even supposed to be on the field?? Injuries happen. Next man up. Our next man up gave up two TDs which, unfortunately for the Hawks last Sunday, made the difference. That is how it goes, but to say the dude with 120+ yards receiving and a TD in the super bowl didn't do anything is not really understanding football. I think most opponents of Sherm dislike him. He's a polarizing figure. I did not feel like Julian was saying that I bested Richard; he was saying "ha-ha ya big loud-mouth!!"

by **HumanCockroach** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:50 pm

I didn't see Edelman do anything against Sherman, so I'll stand by my asseration that the man had nothing viable to say against Sherman, if you feel it is appropriate to single out a man you accomplished nothing ( and I do mean nothing) against, in a parade to celebrate winning the game of the year against, you're are welcome to it, I don't see the stage, or the taunt the way you do, and won't.

I said I could understand Brady saying something, but that isn't who did it. It was a guy thumping his chest towards a guy he has 0 career receptions against. You call it sour grapes, I call it stupid.

by **Hawktawk** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:09 pm

Darrel Jackson would have loved to have had Edelmans ref in XL. He pushed off blatantly twice on Simon on the SAME DAMN PLAY. If they weren't calling it nobody on the team was stopping that. It was a let em play game and that didn't favor Seattle.

Don't misunderstand, the game wasn't about the officiating as much as it was about other things.
But if you woof you are going to get bit in the ass if you wind up on the wrong side of the street brawl. I'm a guy who has said for a while Seattle needs to STFU and play. They win in spite of it, not because of it. It is a waste of energy. I mean really? Baldwin taking a dump on the ball!!!!! Lane saying Gronk wasn't very good? Sherm was the least of the offenders but he has put a bulls eye on his back for several years and got nailed and memed on his 24 gesture when Seattle lost.

After he and Baldwins antics the game was 14-0 Patriots so dont tell me the attitude is helpful. I think this humbling loss will help these Hawks mature between the whistles and they will be unbeatable when they figure that out.

by **NorthHawk** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:27 pm

I didn't see many antics from a Sherman this year like years past. I think he's proven himself and made his name, but his reputation is following him. The good thing is his play hasn't fallen off now that he got paid.

by **kalibane** » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:41 pm

Edelman schooled Simon on both plays. You can't lay that on a push off, that I didn't see btw, but that's not what we're talking about either.

by **HumanCockroach** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:01 am

I agree with Kal, Simon got beat, and if he is expecting that to be called, he hasn't watched NFL football.

by **monkey** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:14 pm

kalibane wrote:Edelman schooled Simon on both plays. You can't lay that on a push off, that I didn't see btw, but that's not what we're talking about either.

Yup, twice. It was ugly.
That is exactly why the injury to Lane was such a big deal, Edelman really exposed him (Simon) badly.

by **obiken** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:27 pm

They were lucky, if we had won we would be lucky. They beat us at our worst not our best, but they won, I could just do without the Victory lap by them and all Pat fans. Its like they won by 30,instead of one bad coaches call.

by **Hawk Sista** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:02 pm

Perhaps the Pats and their fans felt justified in acting the village idiots because of: 1. Sherm's "you mad, bro?" comment; 2. Lane's comments about Gronk not being that good; 3. Baldwin's weird/crappy antics; 4. Sherman and his 24 thing; 5. the fight...etc. The parade and comments after the game felt like bad taste to me (left a bad taste in my mouth) especially after Brady's claims of winning with grace.

But seriously, I think ya'll are kidding yourselves if you don't think our boys/fans would have had reactions if their back-up defender said Marshawn really isn't that good, had Browner been in RW's face saying "you mad, bro?" - had Revis mouthed the score and showed us with his fingers the way Sherm did, had LaFell taken a symbolic dump on the ball to rub it in our secondary's face or had their D caused a fight as they realized they just lost. I think some in this very forum would have created GIFs etc. to celebrate our victory by rubbing Tom Brady's cheating face in his loss.

Call it whatever you like, I believe the majority of sports fans think the Hawks had it coming.

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