Bevfool strikes again!

[HumanCockroach]

Sick, SICK to my stomach. Bevfool's insistence on getting cute, and taking the ball out of Lynch's hands, costs Seattle another victory, and this time, in the BIGGEST possible moment. 2nd and goal from the 1 with a timeout remaining and you run a slant to your 4th receiver???

Somebody explain that decision to me. Lynch IS your bellcow back, seldom gets stopped, and is ONE GD YARD FROM THE ENDZONE. Lynch IMHO should have had AT LEAST two more cracks at that goal line before a pass was even, a THOUGHT in Bevfools head.

I'm proud of that team, the way they continued to fight after losing Lane, and Avril, the way they forced NE to play from behind, they way they refused to lie down when the offense contributed nothing... But Bevell as far as I'm concerned right now can stay in Arizona.

[c_hawkbob]

There is no explaining that. Made zero sense on any level, clock management, need, chance of success ... nothing made that play call even an option under any circumstance. Just and ego getting in the way of winning a Super Bowl.

[Hawkstar]

Can we please move on from Bevell. That was to much to deal with.

[Oly]

I want to puke. And punch someone. And drink myself into a stupor. All at the same time.

[Hawk Sista]

Ricardo Lockette in this moment makes zero sense. His alligator arms didn't help, the play call was horrendous.

#hawksforever

[savvyman]

Yes the Worst play call in the History of the NFL.

Can't imagine what Bevell must be feeling liken right now.... If us 12's and all the other people in the NFL and across the country are angry with the play call - - - can you imagine what the Seahawk Players and other coaches are feeling right now about it?

[jshawaii22]

Pete just stated it was the wrong personnel package and he was 'wasting a play'

Come back with his goal-line offense for the 3rd and 4th down. Didn't expect the DB to jump the route....

Not sure if we all can blame Bevel... but he's as good as anyone to blame right now, if we must go down that road.

Called a pretty good game up to that point.

js

[Anthony]

Ricardo Lockette in this moment makes zero sense. His alligator arms didn't help, the play call was horrendous.

#hawksforever

Not to mention his hesitation getting off the line

[Hawktown]

disgusted......just disgusted!

[RiverDog]

I have been watching football for over 50 years, and given the game situation and significance of the game, that ranks as the worst play call that I have ever seen in my life. It wouldn't have been so bad had it not been 2nd down, had we not had a timeout left, had it not been that it would have been to our advantage to run the clock down to 15 seconds or so, or had the pass play been a safe corner throw, or if we were having little success on the ground. With 3 cracks at getting one yard, there's about a 99% chance that Lynch would have gotten that one yard. It made me sick to my stomach. I never like losing, but losing like that is a very tough pill to swallow. We snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

And although Bevel is the obvious villain and deserves every bit of venom that we can hurl towards him, we should not let two immortal Gods off the hook, either. Russell should have never thrown that ball and Pete Carroll's liberal riverboat gambler-fly in the face of conventional wisdom style that enabled Bevell to make such a call rose up and bit him in the ass at the worst possible moment.

I am absolutely sick. The wife is locking all the upstairs windows and hiding all the guns and knives as we speak.

[SalmonBB]

I won't belabor that horrendous call anymore than you guys have. But the thing that got me was that in this game and the last, we have completely given up on what used to be the third leg of our offense: RW running the ball. Even before our last opportunity, in the 3rd and 4th quarters we wasted away a couple of possessions with very boring and uninspired playcalling. RW had a couple good run gains tonight after pass plays broke down, but what happened to the design play? There were a couple times we could have used 5-7 yds and a slide just to keep from going three and out, and one where we might have used it to score the winning TD. All in retrospect. I feel for Bevel, feel for our team, feel for you guys, and am just beside myself right now. And if you thought Steelers fans were tough to deal with, I have a feeling we're about to experience a whole different level of trashtalk over the next year.

GO SEAHAWKS!!!

[Anthony]

I have been watching football for over 50 years, and given the game situation and significance of the game, that ranks as the worst play call that I have ever seen in my life. It wouldn't have been so bad had it not been 2nd down, had we not had a timeout left, had it not been that it would have been to our advantage to run the clock down to 15 seconds or so, or had the pass play been a safe corner throw, or if we were having little success on the ground. With 3 cracks at getting one yard, there's about a 99% chance that Lynch would have gotten that one yard. It made me sick to my stomach. I never like losing, but losing like that is a very tough pill to swallow. We snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

And although Bevel is the obvious villain and deserves every bit of venom that we can hurl towards him, we should not let two immortal Gods off the hook, either. Russell should have never thrown that ball and Pete Carroll's liberal riverboat gambler-fly in the face of conventional wisdom style that enabled Bevell to make such a call rose up and bit him in the ass at the worst possible moment.

I am absolutely sick. The wife is locking all the upstairs windows and hiding all the guns and knives as we speak.

What exactly was Wilson suppose to do, it is a timing play and he pretty much has no choice. Dumb play call.

[RiverDog]

[What exactly was Wilson suppose to do, it is a timing play and he pretty much has no choice. Dumb play call.

Like I said, it was the worst play call I've ever seen. But it doesn't excuse the play execution. Russell didn't have to throw the ball at all. He did not see the defender lurking to jump that route. Had he anticipated the DB jumping that route, he could have reloaded, scrambled, fired the ball out of bounds, even taken a sack. Plus I assume that he always had the option to audible out of the call from the bench. Bad decision. You can't excuse him. He turned the ball over under zero pressure at the worst possible moment. Had that been Tony Romo or Colin Kaepernick, we would have all been giving the choke sign.

[THX-1138]

Worst call ever. There isn't a force in the universe that was going to keep Lynch out of the end zone.

What a waste.

[monkey]

Yes the Worst play call in the History of the NFL.

Under ANY other circumstances, after ANY other play I've ever seen, I would call this statement extreme hyperbole at best. Trouble is, it really was the single worst play call in the entire history of Superbowl, and there cannot possibly be any argument otherwise.
There are Pee Wee football coaches smacking their foreheads in exasperation after blowing such an obvious call. Guys girlfriends, who only come to Super Bowl parties for the half time show and commercials, are right now asking their boyfriends, "why didn't they just give it to that Beast Mode guy and let him run it in instead of throwing?" People from other countries who've never before watched a football game, are right now confused and asking themselves, "Why didn't they just run it in?"
No one thought that was a good idea to throw there, no one.

Worst call in Super Bowl history, arguably the worst call in any championship in any sport ever.

[savvyman]

As I speculated on the obvious above - Seahawk players are the angriest of all.

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/2/1/7961557/pete-carroll-interview-postgame-super-bowl-2015

[RiverDog]

As I speculated on the obvious above - Seahawk players are the angriest of all.

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/2/1/7961557/pete-carroll-interview-postgame-super-bowl-2015

We are facing another crisis. A loss like this could rip a team apart. The frustration was apparent in the fight just prior to the end of the game. Kudos for Pete Carroll offering to take blame, but I'm not sure how much that is going to help. The players are all painfully aware of how incredibly difficult it is just to get to a game like this. Especially with the departure of Dan Quinn, Pete has one hell of a job picking up the pieces.

[monkey]

Like I said, it was the worst play call I've ever seen. But it doesn't excuse the play execution. Russell didn't have to throw the ball at all. He did not see the defender lurking to jump that route. Had he anticipated the DB jumping that route, he could have reloaded, scrambled, fired the ball out of bounds, even taken a sack. Plus I assume that he always had the option to audible out of the call from the bench. Bad decision. You can't excuse him. He turned the ball over under zero pressure at the worst possible moment. Had that been Tony Romo or Colin Kaepernick, we would have all been giving the choke sign.

What are you talking about? When he threw that pass, Lockette had just gotten open, the pass was right on the money, the defender simply made a TERRIFIC play, and jumped the route. It's a TIMING play, if he didn't throw it there, then the whole play doesn't work and he's likely taking a sack. He threw it to an OPEN Lockette, and the defender who was supposed to be blocked out there, fought through it and made one heckuva play.
It was NOT the execution, it was the HORRIBLE CALL! Wilson's pass hit Lockette on the hands, it was thrown right where it was supposed to thrown, at exactly the right time. The defender just went through Lockette to get that ball...he wanted it more.
Wilson should have NEVER been asked to make that throw! NOT EVER!

There was literally ONE bad option where they were on the field, and that was throwing the ball, especially throwing the ball into traffic. Sadly, that is exactly what they did.
They tried to get tricky, and it cost them the sure win.
Just hand the ball off to Beast Mode and pop the cork on the champagne.

Don't even try to blame Wilson, the only thing he could have done differently is audible to a run play. The throw was just fine.

[Anthony]

Like I said, it was the worst play call I've ever seen. But it doesn't excuse the play execution. Russell didn't have to throw the ball at all. He did not see the defender lurking to jump that route. Had he anticipated the DB jumping that route, he could have reloaded, scrambled, fired the ball out of bounds, even taken a sack. Plus I assume that he always had the option to audible out of the call from the bench. Bad decision. You can't excuse him. He turned the ball over under zero pressure at the worst possible moment. Had that been Tony Romo or Colin Kaepernick, we would have all been giving the choke sign.

Oh so Wilson is to blame because in your mind he should have known that locket would not have beaten his guy to the spot, in less than 1 second. FYI PC just said there was no audible on that play sorry this one is not on Wilson at all.

[RiverDog]

Oh so Wilson is to blame because in your mind he should have known that locket would not have beaten his guy to the spot, in less than 1 second. FYI PC just said there was no audible on that play sorry this one is not on Wilson at all.

Partially to blame. The majority of blame falls on the play call, and as I have said repeatedly, it is the worst call I have ever witnessed.

But I'm not going to apologize for Russell as you seem inclined to do. His receiver didn't fall down, the ball didn't bounce off the receiver's hands, the receiver did not run the wrong route, and the OL did not fail to protect him. Russell knew the game situation, that he still had two plays left FROM THE ONE and a timeout in his pocket. If the receiver was not clearly open, he should not have thrown it. The entire game was in his hands, and he blew it.

[NorthHawk]

It seems to me the Pats were stacking the box in expectation of a run. It also means that the pass shouldn't be thrown into the middle where all the Defensive players are but rather if thrown, to a TE or WR in the corner or in the back of the end zone.
Just a mind boggling play call from my perspective.

[Anthony]

Partially to blame. The majority of blame falls on the play call, and as I have said repeatedly, it is the worst call I have ever witnessed.

But I'm not going to apologize for Russell as you seem inclined to do. His receiver didn't fall down, the ball didn't bounce off the receiver's hands, the receiver did not run the wrong route, and the OL did not fail to protect him. Russell knew the game situation, that he still had two plays left FROM THE ONE and a timeout in his pocket. If the receiver was not clearly open, he should not have thrown it. The entire game was in his hands, and he blew it.

its not about apologizing, I did not in the NFCG with 2 of his 4 ints were all him, however you seem to try you hardest to find ways to blame him even when they are not legit. I mean you can if you want, but there is no factual way to put any of this on Wilson. FYI the wr was open when he threw it, try looking at it again. To me this entire thread is in your hands and you are blowing it trying to blame WIlson for something that is clearly not his fault, but that is what you always do.

[Anthony]

It seems to me the Pats were stacking the box in expectation of a run. It also means that the pass shouldn't be thrown into the middle where all the Defensive players are but rather if thrown, to a TE or WR in the corner or in the back of the end zone.
Just a mind boggling play call from my perspective.

Agreed and there is lies were the blame goes and 100% of the blame to whoever made the call.

[HumanCockroach]

Talked to my brother, and multiple freinds about the play after the game had ended, and I think the single BIGGEST issue anyone had, is we lost NOT doing what WE do ( isn't this a mantra amongst Seahawks players?) IF they had handed the ball to Lynch three times and he doesn't get in? Tip the cap, and loss is acceptable, fumble it on the one running Lynch? Tip the cap, and it is acceptable. Why? Because that IS what Seattle does, and stopping the run is NOT what NE does.

Not only that, but the playcall, removed Wilson's STRENGTH as well..... IF Seattle was hell bent on throwing the ball, they could ( and should) have brought in their heavy set, run a play action roll out to a TE and allowed Wilson to CHOOSE to throw it, or run it, under NO circumstances should Bevell or anyone thought a throw into the teeth of the defense, with the 4th receiver was a good idea in that circumstance, where Wilson isn't "reading" squat, he is planting and throwing the ball on a timing route, in a condensed area, with the Patriots playing at the line of scrimmage.

True Wilson could have not thrown the ball, but the person he was throwing to, WAS the primary receiver on the play, the kid from NE made a hell of a play, but he should NEVER have had that chance in the first place....

IMHO this has little to do with the right decision, and EVERYTHING to do with Bevells ego, and obvious desire to weed the running game from his attack, and his childish issues with Lynch ( go back and look folks, ever since the little one fingered salute from Lynch in Wilsons first game, his short yardage goal line attempts have dwindled and dwindled and dwindled. Lynch scores plenty in the red zone, but 90% of the time it comes from outside the 5). I'm done with the guy. He stole this victory from this team,Lynch and more importantly from us 12's. NO one is "bigger" than the team, NO one, and Bevell's ego, crept up at the WORST possible moment, in the WORST possible game, on the BIGGEST possible stage.

As far as I'm concerned he can just stay in Arizona and work on his golf game.

[Anthony]

Talked to my brother, and multiple freinds about the play after the game had ended, and I think the single BIGGEST issue anyone had, is we lost NOT doing what WE do ( isn't this a mantra amongst Seahawks players?) IF they had handed the ball to Lynch three times and he doesn't get in? Tip the cap, and loss is acceptable, fumble it on the one running Lynch? Tip the cap, and it is acceptable. Why? Because that IS what Seattle does, and stopping the run is NOT what NE does.

Not only that, but the playcall, removed Wilson's STRENGTH as well..... IF Seattle was hell bent on throwing the ball, they could ( and should) have brought in their heavy set, run a play action roll out to a TE and allowed Wilson to CHOOSE to throw it, or run it, under NO circumstances should Bevell or anyone thought a throw into the teeth of the defense, with the 4th receiver was a good idea in that circumstance, where Wilson isn't "reading" squat, he is planting and throwing the ball on a timing route, in a condensed area, with the Patriots playing at the line of scrimmage.

True Wilson could have not thrown the ball, but the person he was throwing to, WAS the primary receiver on the play, the kid from NE made a hell of a play, but he should NEVER have had that chance in the first place....

IMHO this has little to do with the right decision, and EVERYTHING to do with Bevells ego, and obvious desire to weed the running game from his attack, and his childish issues with Lynch ( go back and look folks, ever since the little one fingered salute from Lynch in Wilsons first game, his short yardage goal line attempts have dwindled and dwindled and dwindled. Lynch scores plenty in the red zone, but 90% of the time it comes from outside the 5). I'm done with the guy. He stole this victory from this team,Lynch and more importantly from us 12's. NO one is "bigger" than the team, NO one, and Bevell's ego, crept up at the WORST possible moment, in the WORST possible game, on the BIGGEST possible stage.

As far as I'm concerned he can just stay in Arizona and work on his golf game.

Wilson has little choice but to throw the ball it is a timing route period. IN order for him to not to throw it he would have had to decided even before the play. I am all for blaming Wilson when h deserves this but in this case their is no blame on him at all, This is all on Bevel and his stupid play call, and for not giving Wilson an audible which PC said Wilson did not have.

[Hawk Sista]

Wilson, Pete and Bevel all took responsibility. Their interviews were so much more classy than whiney ass Rogers two weeks ago. Of course players were heart-broken and took some shots. Hell, I did from my couch. It HURTS!!!

It's too bad Melissa Stark and all the others who can't wait to tweet ish out doesn't tweet out all the interviews I just heard where team member after broken hearted team player said the right thing. You know, there is nobody who doesn't owe the fact that we made it as far as we did to the guy who owns the decision. NOBODY!!!

If the vaunted d wants to get critical, maybe they shouldn't have given up 14 points in the 4th. Really...it was a game for the ages and RW had a good game, Marshawn had a great game, Mathews had a great game, bennet had a great game, Bev called a decent game. We had more yards, we came up short. It's tough to lose this way (feels worse than a blowout) but wanting someone's head right now is really stupid & immature. Lockette reaches better and we win and Bev is a genius. It's easy to sit on your couch and be critical. We have been the NFC champs thrice in 10 years. That's better than a kick in the teeth.

Thanks coaches, players, john and Paul. It was a great year.

[HumanCockroach]

It seems to me the Pats were stacking the box in expectation of a run. It also means that the pass shouldn't be thrown into the middle where all the Defensive players are but rather if thrown, to a TE or WR in the corner or in the back of the end zone.
Just a mind boggling play call from my perspective.

Absolutely true, they were stacking the box, but you don't have to run into the box, nor does stacking the box ( as they had done the entire game) mean necessarily you don't get the required yard ( and honestly, you almost WANT them to stop him short, call the TO you left in your pocket, and line up to do it again). Lynch I don't believe lost yardage on a single run ALL game, and the Pats simply could NOT tackle him one on one.

Lynch dragged Pats defenders around the field all night.....

( and honestly, even if Seattle KNEW they would be stopped short on a Lynch run, it was STILL a better call than the one that was made. That call was horrible, and honestly shouldn't have even crossed an even moderately competent OC's mind in that situation)

Sydney Rice's take on it was this : 2nd down, one yard to go, Lynch in the backfield, I wouldn't throw that ball if Jerry Rice was the receiver.

That says plenty ( and it isn't just Sydney saying those things)... It's cool the players are protecting Bevell, it shows what kind of family the Seahawks have, but that said, I would be hard pressed to find a SINGLE somewhat knowledgeable fan, former player, current player, announcer, former coach, current coach or anyone else that simply watched this particular football game, that aren't saying it was a horrendous call and decision, simply NO ONE understands that call.

[burrrton]

I have been watching football for over 50 years, and given the game situation and significance of the game, that ranks as the worst play call that I have ever seen in my life.

I'm only 36-odd years in, but no question the worst call I've ever seen under the circumstances.

I don't even know how to feel at the moment.

If Bevell is back next year, I'm sitting the season out, I think. Call me bandwagon or whatever- I can't take it like this. Feels like my team tried a FG on 3rd down from the 1 or something.

If the vaunted d wants to get critical, maybe they shouldn't have given up 14 points in the 4th.

This, too, though. If the D doesn't get the ball shoved up their collective @ss twice holding a 10-pt lead, we're not having this discussion about the idiot calling our plays.

[HumanCockroach]

Wilson, Pete and Bevel all took responsibility. Their interviews were so much more classy than whiney ass Rogers two weeks ago. Of course players were heart-broken and took some shots. Hell, I did from my couch. It HURTS!!!

It's too bad Melissa Stark and all the others who can't wait to tweet ish out doesn't tweet out all the interviews I just heard where team member after broken hearted team player said the right thing. You know, there is nobody who doesn't owe the fact that we made it as far as we did to the guy who owns the decision. NOBODY!!!

If the vaunted d wants to get critical, maybe they shouldn't have given up 14 points in the 4th. Really...it was a game for the ages and RW had a good game, Marshawn had a great game, Mathews had a great game, bennet had a great game, Bev called a decent game. We had more yards, we came up short. It's tough to lose this way (feels worse than a blowout) but wanting someone's head right now is really stupid & immature. Lockette reaches better and we win and Bev is a genius. It's easy to sit on your couch and be critical. We have been the NFC champs thrice in 10 years. That's better than a kick in the teeth.

Thanks coaches, players, john and Paul. It was a great year.

Sorry sis, have to disagree, even IF that play worked and Seattle won, I wouldn't be in any way lauding the call, I would be ecstatic for the win, but I would indeed feel like we got "lucky" or stole one. Under no circumstances would I approve of that playcall, win or lose.

Bad call, period.

[RiverDog]

Talked to my brother, and multiple freinds about the play after the game had ended, and I think the single BIGGEST issue anyone had, is we lost NOT doing what WE do ( isn't this a mantra amongst Seahawks players?) IF they had handed the ball to Lynch three times and he doesn't get in? Tip the cap, and loss is acceptable, fumble it on the one running Lynch? Tip the cap, and it is acceptable. Why? Because that IS what Seattle does, and stopping the run is NOT what NE does.

Not only that, but the playcall, removed Wilson's STRENGTH as well..... IF Seattle was hell bent on throwing the ball, they could ( and should) have brought in their heavy set, run a play action roll out to a TE and allowed Wilson to CHOOSE to throw it, or run it, under NO circumstances should Bevell or anyone thought a throw into the teeth of the defense, with the 4th receiver was a good idea in that circumstance, where Wilson isn't "reading" squat, he is planting and throwing the ball on a timing route, in a condensed area, with the Patriots playing at the line of scrimmage.

True Wilson could have not thrown the ball, but the person he was throwing to, WAS the primary receiver on the play, the kid from NE made a hell of a play, but he should NEVER have had that chance in the first place....

IMHO this has little to do with the right decision, and EVERYTHING to do with Bevells ego, and obvious desire to weed the running game from his attack, and his childish issues with Lynch ( go back and look folks, ever since the little one fingered salute from Lynch in Wilsons first game, his short yardage goal line attempts have dwindled and dwindled and dwindled. Lynch scores plenty in the red zone, but 90% of the time it comes from outside the 5). I'm done with the guy. He stole this victory from this team,Lynch and more importantly from us 12's. NO one is "bigger" than the team, NO one, and Bevell's ego, crept up at the WORST possible moment, in the WORST possible game, on the BIGGEST possible stage.

As far as I'm concerned he can just stay in Arizona and work on his golf game.

I agree with all of that. Bevell deserves the bulk of the criticism. It's like he wasn't aware of the game clock, of field position, of the number of timeouts he had, the fact that our running game was going reasonably well, of the strengths and weaknesses of his players or his opponents. He set us up for failure. I want him fired, if for nothing else, for retribution. It is inexcusable.

But saying Russell is completely blameless is absurd. It wasn't Bevell standing back in the pocket with absolutely no pressure on him and the entire play in front of him. There was nothing forcing him to let loose of that precious leather object. The NE player read the play and jumped the route.

[monkey]

If the receiver was not clearly open, he should not have thrown it. The entire game was in his hands, and he blew it.

Riverdog, you're actually starting to really piss me off now. This is pure grade A horseshit and you KNOW IT IS!
That's not how a freaking timing play like that works, and you KNOW IT! You've watched enough football that I shouldn't have to lecture you on slant, timing patterns 101.
Lockette WAS open when Wilson threw the damn ball, he WAS! That defender simply fought through and made a play. That's NOT Wilson's fault and your insistence that it was, is really rubbing me the wrong way, because it's showing me that you clearly have some axe to grind here.
You are ALWAYS the first to try to blame Wilson for anything that goes wrong ALWAYS. You're always trying to somehow pin responsibility for bad things on him, even when it is plainly obvious it was not his fault.
This was a TIMING route...you understand that right? He get's the ball, sees that his receiver has the correct separation (and he DID!!) then throws to the spot where his receiver will be, which he did.

IT'S A STUPID PLAY CALL!!! In that spot, throwing into the middle of traffic, when you can simply run the damn ball, is simply THE MOST BRAIN DEAD, BONEHEADED PLAY CALL IMAGINABLE!

Stop, stop, stop with this ridiculous axe you have to grind against Wilson. It's nauseating and you've been doing it all damn year now.

[Anthony]

Riverdog, you're actually starting to really piss me off now. This is pure grade A horseshit and you KNOW IT IS!
That's not how a freaking timing play like that works, and you KNOW IT! You've watched enough football that I shouldn't have to lecture you on slant, timing patterns 101.
Lockette WAS open when Wilson threw the damn ball, he WAS! That defender simply fought through and made a play. That's NOT Wilson's fault and your insistence that it was, is really rubbing me the wrong way, because it's showing me that you clearly have some axe to grind here.
You are ALWAYS the first to try to blame Wilson for anything that goes wrong ALWAYS. You're always trying to somehow pin responsibility for bad things on him, even when it is plainly obvious it was not his fault.
This was a TIMING route...you understand that right? He get's the ball, sees that his receiver has the correct separation (and he DID!!) then throws to the spot where his receiver will be, which he did.

IT'S A STUPID PLAY CALL!!! In that spot, throwing into the middle of traffic, when you can simply run the damn ball, is simply THE MOST BRAIN DEAD, BONEHEADED PLAY CALL IMAGINABLE!

Stop, stop, stop with this ridiculous axe you have to grind against Wilson. It's nauseating and you've been doing it all damn year now.

I agree with your whole post especially the last part.

[Hawk Sista]

There is a lot of discipline in not blaming one person.... Finding a scapegoat. I understand the play was not the best calI - I understand Lockette could have tried harder, I understand it all. I'm hurting too. All I'm saying is I'm proud of our team. I'm proud of our coaches. I appreciate that Pete owns it and doesn't blame others. I Wish like hell it was all different. But it wasn't. That rookie made a great play. It makes me sick that everyone wants to point fingers and blame heart-broken, hard-working players and coaches in this very sad time. Jesus. We wouldn't be where we are w/o those same people.

There's nothing to be done. All the ranting and raving is just hurting you.

Go hawks

[obiken]

C-bob, River, Z, HS, help me to understand.
You have the toughest back in the league; you have a mobile, 5-11 QB, and you have him throwing it over the middle on a bunched up End zone play?
Fake the ball on a roll out even, but to do it the way they did it, even if it worked, the risk far outweigh the options. Why?? He had just gotten 4 yards to get us that close. Man this tough.
Eric Wanalda, the US soccer player said: Players are the only ones that can win games, refs can ruin them, and coaches can lose them. Coaches lost this one period.
Hell of a year as champs but it was so close to being better!! Waaaaaaa!

[mykc14]

I don't love play call, actually I hate it, but I do understand it. We were in an 11 personnel group (1 TE 1 RB) probably hoping they would match it (like the Pack did in the NFC Championship game). I think we had that personnel in to try and spread them out, get their big guys out and then run the read option. When they sent in their goal line D we didn't have (in pete's eyes) a good matchup to run so he called a pass. I am not giving them a pass in any way, its just that I understand why they called it,

[Hawk Sista]

It's tough, Obi. It will be questioned forEVER!!!! Pete/Bevel will be questioned on this forever. It makes me feel sick for them. You think you are bummed. Good lord, these guys are at work @ 6 & leave @ 11. Keep in mind - 30 other teams watched this game from the sidelines and we didn't because of those same coaches.

It's hard. I keep reliving the moment. You should have heard me scream. I'm just saying

[burrrton]

Here's why I'm not placing any blame at RW's feet on this:

From what I've read so far, the play wasn't one of those that gave the QB a read to audible out of.

He could have thrown it into the cheap seats, but the play was *designed* to be run on that formation, so nothing told the QB "audible out of this" or "throw it away" except that it was the stupidest fcking call in the history of Super Bowls.

RW did what he was supposed to, except for maybe telling his coaching staff to grow a brain.

Bevell didn't, so we're left with pondering what could have been for an offseason.

[edit]

What will be interesting in a morbid way is seeing if this team can overcome this kind of fck-up by the coaching staff. I guess we'll see.

[burrrton]

There's nothing to be done. All the ranting and raving is just hurting you.

You said it, Sis. Gotta let it go.

[monkey]

I understand why they called it too, it's obvious WHY they did, but that specific play call was quite literally the most boneheaded call you can make there.
The Pats are selling out to stop run, and you have two plays to punch it in, with one timeout.
I still say you should run it, but fine, you decide to throw because Pats are all sold out to run stop, so fine then...call a roll, out call a fade, call play action, call just about ANYTHING OTHER than a danged timing route! Especially one that gives only one real option, with nothing to audible to, right into the teeth of a bunched up defense at the goal line.

It was quite literally the SINGLE MOST IDIOTIC PLAY CALL OF ALL TIME!!!
I could have flipped the play book open to just about any page, and come up with something better than a freaking timing throw into the middle of the defense...it makes no damned sense at all!

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I don't know what you all are talking about, according to bevell it's lockette his fault http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... er-to-ball nice way to pass the buck coach.

And if I recall correctly bevell it's the second time this season that you pull a stunt like this on the year were you run the ball good and you just when you are within reach of the end zone you don't give it to Lynch and you decide to throw it. And I can't believe Pete is covering for you, he said they had people in to stop the run so he "decided" to "waste" a down by throwing it? Just "waste" the down by giving it to Lynch, and why in the world we had to use a time out to prevent delay of game penalty is beyond me