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Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:33 pm

Just heard it on ESPN Radio that the league has announced that we will be penalized 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct if Lynch makes an obscene gesture in the SB.

Party's over Beast. Gotta behave.
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Re: Seahawks will be fined if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby burrrton » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:53 pm

Party's over Beast. Gotta behave.


Agreed, although it looks pretty freaking stupid knowing that dorky, meaningless gesture could impact the SB, but the obvious cheating by the Pats leading up to it won't.
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Re: Seahawks will be fined if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:04 pm

burrrton wrote:Agreed, although it looks pretty freaking stupid knowing that dorky, meaningless gesture could impact the SB, but the obvious cheating by the Pats leading up to it won't.


So the NFL is a bunch of hypocrites that have their priorities upside down. What else is new?

Suppose that Lynch rushes for 200 yards and scores 4 TD's. Does he get the MVP? Can you imagine the MVP ceremony if they gave it to him?
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:16 pm

Well, him winning it is a very real possibility, and if he does, I hope he spends every second on the stage pointing at and grabbing his jock, at this point... Absolutely no difference between him doing so, and the SB endorsed, approved and encouraged Micheal Jackson doing so in 93' other than, the NFL now deems it "obscene" somehow all of a sudden.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:20 pm

He would have to be a slam dunk no brainer choice before they ever gave him the MVP. IMO it will take a minimum of 150 yards and 3 TD's with no other viable choices.

But think of the scene if they had no choice and had to award the MVP to him. Does he shake hands with Goodell? Does he even go on the stage? If he doesn't, do they fine him? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out his wang and whipped it around like a fire hose.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby Zorn76 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:36 pm

Be funny if Beast wins mvp, then doesn't show up (publically, anyway) to accept it.

To Thine Own Self Be True, I guess:)
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby burrrton » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:42 pm

Can you imagine the MVP ceremony if they gave it to him?


Bet he announces retirement then drops his drawers and jogs around the field.

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I see you alluded to such a scenario :)
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:52 pm

burrrton wrote:Bet he announces retirement then drops his drawers and jogs around the field.

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I see you alluded to such a scenario :)


Maybe he moons Goodell.

Jeez, the possibilities are endless.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby wait_a_sec » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:20 pm

I call the grab the Marshawn Clynch.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby Distant Relative » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:51 pm

What a JOKE the NFL is becoming! Kinda wearing me out the last few years with all the " Goody Tuchew" Chit.

Amazing how the commissioner can go into hiding and not talk when he doesn't want to. Cowards Cower when the going gets tough, Roger Goodell hides, yet he still is able to dictate what all players do and what fines they should pay?

F>U> Roger!

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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby burrrton » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:12 pm

wait_a_sec wrote:I call the grab the Marshawn Clynch.


LOL. Not bad- I may use that. :)
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby HumanCockroach » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:16 pm

Was never a huge talker, and am not really a fan of this stuff, but at this point I hope Lynch drops his drawers and d*ck slaps Goodell on the podium should he win the award. So sick of the NFL's consistent "ignorance" ( ignorance is not an excuse Roger) regarding SERIOUS things, that they KNOW about, while spending ALL their collective efforts of removing things that temporarily may not fit the image they are attempting to portay to the nation.

So incredibly tired of the double standards by the league and lack of priorities.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:32 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Was never a huge talker, and am not really a fan of this stuff, but at this point I hope Lynch drops his drawers and d*ck slaps Goodell on the podium should he win the award. So sick of the NFL's consistent "ignorance" ( ignorance is not an excuse Roger) regarding SERIOUS things, that they KNOW about, while spending ALL their collective efforts of removing things that temporarily may not fit the image they are attempting to portay to the nation.

So incredibly tired of the double standards by the league and lack of priorities.


Forgive me if you feel I'm attempting to trivializing your sentiments, but personally, I don't get too worked up about injustices served upon multi million dollar athletes when completely innocent people are getting beheaded in the Mideast.

If Lynch doesn't like it, he's free to pursue some other means of supporting himself.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:22 am

Your more than entitled to your opinion. Simply could care less about the NFL or it's officials that consistently brush serious issues under the rug, while focussing on a single athlete because he doesn't fit the mold of what they consider their ideal "image". Lynch has been fined, and warned now, if "obscenities" were an ACTUAL concern for the NFL, then how does multiple F bombs being dropped on the sidelines during broadcasts get a "we're sorry" from the NFL, and a "it is part of the game" garbage, when it's golden boy Tommy ( who then proceeded to cheat. Not some general terms, but black and white, point blank rules) with no reprimand, no fine, no penalty of any kind?? How does that work exactly??

Not concerned whether you feel any sympathy for Lynch ( I don't myself), my concerns stem from the hypocracy, and idiocy of this league, and the apathy they magically seem to exude, when it fits their convenience. Lynch is anti management, anti league and anti media, there are worse things to be, and something tells me the look, the way he sounds has a lot more to do with the league singling him out in this circumstance. What Lynch has done is no different than leaping into the stands, or a discount double check. This is the SAME league that endorsed and encouraged Micheal Jackson at their half time in the SB doing the SAME thing MULTIPLE times, not that long ago, and I simply don't remember than being upset, offended or in any way calling it an "obscene gesture" ( which is what they call it, because there is NO rule baring the action, so they use generalisations, and judgement calls, to try and stop it).
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:58 am

Yes, there's no doubt that the league is filled with hypocrisy, absurdity, and screwed up priorities. Where I work at, there are a lot of people that are foreign born so they are not as connected to the game as we are and when I tell them about Lynch getting fined $100K for not talking to the press they all have the same reaction..." What?"

But all you have to do to figure out what the league is trying to achieve is follow the money. It explains everything, brings a clear understanding to every issue. The crotch grabbing? Thank the soccer moms, the audience the NFL is so desperate to attract. It doesn't matter if they once had Michael Jackson grabbing his on center stage of a SB halftime. The soccer moms don't like it, and that's enough for the NFL to tell Lynch to stop doing it. They could care less about their past practice. They see Lynch's crotch grabbing as having the potential of driving away paying customers. Not talking to the press? That one's easy. Part the reason why the NFL was able to sign such enormous media contracts is that they've agreed to make their stars available to them so that you and me will tune into their programming.

I agree with every word you said. I just don't get that worked up about it. All I want is another Lombardi and the league can be as hypocritical as they like.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby Hawktown » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:01 am

F the soccer moms. Literally and figuratively. ;) I know plenty of females that like Lynches antics or have zero issue with it. I also have ZERO issue with it. Not that I matter myself but if you got a vote from the fans as a whole, I would bet that it is a NON ISSUE. The only ones that would be complaining would be the losing team and those very few sUcker moms. I have not talked to ONE person outside the internet and TV that have an issue with it.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:47 am

Hawktown wrote:F the soccer moms. Literally and figuratively. ;) I know plenty of females that like Lynches antics or have zero issue with it. I also have ZERO issue with it. Not that I matter myself but if you got a vote from the fans as a whole, I would bet that it is a NON ISSUE. The only ones that would be complaining would be the losing team and those very few sUcker moms. I have not talked to ONE person outside the internet and TV that have an issue with it.


It doesn't have to be a majority or even a significant percentage of the general population to have a problem with it. All it takes is for it to leave a negative impression on the target group that the league is trying to attract, and the target group is females from 25-55, where along with the foreign market, they see their biggest potential increase in audience as coming from.

To be honest with you, I don't care much for the crotch grab, either. I thought it was kinda funny when he did it in Arizona but I really don't want to see every player from college down to Pop Warner grabbing their wang whenever they score a TD. I definitely don't think it should be a penalty but I can understand why the league wants to discourage those kinds of demonstrations.

Now that the league has threatened us with a 15 yard penalty if he persists, he needs to stop. The last thing I want to see happen is for us to score a go-ahead TD then give the ball back to Tom Brady at midfield. Save it for the MVP ceremony.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:45 am

I understand why they are doing it completely, doesn't change my feelings on the hypocracy of the league, I was more upset with the fine levied on Mathews ( he did not grab his junk, despite the league saying he did, he went to, and was stopped by Lynch) and it's fine to Kearse for celebrating the biggest play in his career and Seahawks history. The NFL is the only organisation I'm aware of that doesn't look at factors when doling out punishment, it simply does, without a thought to what has occured, or why a player does what he does.

Fining Lynch or Mathews more for having their hand waver over their junk after a huge play while fining players less for blatant late hits and cheap shots, is something I can't stomach. Replaying the grab incessantly on their network following the action, is also something I find absolutely ludicrous, and honestly, I think they threatened Lynch with the penalty in an effort to get him to do it AGAIN not to stop it from happening. Anyone in the world think the NFL does not "like" the media attention, and spotlight it brings to the league, doesn't know what the league actually holds dear. They simply are NOT about " good clean, wholesome family fun" they are however about creating viewers, advertisment and bringing people into the fanbase. Good or bad publicity doesn't matter to the NFL. They are all about plausible deniability, they told him "not to do it" so they can tell said soccer moms, it wasn't us, nothing more.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby burrrton » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:07 pm

Fining Lynch or Mathews more for having their hand waver over their junk after a huge play while fining players less for blatant late hits and cheap shots, is something I can't stomach.


Word.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby savvyman » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:42 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:I understand why they are doing it completely, doesn't change my feelings on the hypocracy of the league, I was more upset with the fine levied on Mathews ( he did not grab his junk, despite the league saying he did, he went to, and was stopped by Lynch) and it's fine to Kearse for celebrating the biggest play in his career and Seahawks history. The NFL is the only organisation I'm aware of that doesn't look at factors when doling out punishment, it simply does, without a thought to what has occured, or why a player does what he does.

Fining Lynch or Mathews more for having their hand waver over their junk after a huge play while fining players less for blatant late hits and cheap shots, is something I can't stomach. Replaying the grab incessantly on their network following the action, is also something I find absolutely ludicrous, and honestly, I think they threatened Lynch with the penalty in an effort to get him to do it AGAIN not to stop it from happening. Anyone in the world think the NFL does not "like" the media attention, and spotlight it brings to the league, doesn't know what the league actually holds dear. They simply are NOT about " good clean, wholesome family fun" they are however about creating viewers, advertisment and bringing people into the fanbase. Good or bad publicity doesn't matter to the NFL. They are all about plausible deniability, they told him "not to do it" so they can tell said soccer moms, it wasn't us, nothing more.



To drive home Your point - the NFL is making money off selling an item that has an image of Marshwan grabbing his Crotch.

The Irony....... or Hipocracy.......... or the Incompetency of the clowns who run the NFL........


http://m.nflshop.com/Seattle_Seahawks_Collectibles/Seattle_Seahawks_2014_NFC_Champions_Framed_20_x_24_Collage_with_Piece_of_Game-Used_Football_-_Limited_Edition_of_100
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby Hawktown » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:18 pm

To drive home Your point - the NFL is making money off selling an item that has an image of Marshwan grabbing his Crotch.

The Irony....... or Hipocracy.......... or the Incompetency of the clowns who run the NFL........


http://m.nflshop.com/Seattle_Seahawks_Collectibles/Seattle_Seahawks_2014_NFC_Champions_Framed_20_x_24_Collage_with_Piece_of_Game-Used_Football_-_Limited_Edition_of_100[/quote]

Unbelievable!!! Well, maybe not!!!
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby Agent 86 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:25 pm


To drive home Your point - the NFL is making money off selling an item that has an image of Marshwan grabbing his Crotch.

The Irony....... or Hipocracy.......... or the Incompetency of the clowns who run the NFL........


http://m.nflshop.com/Seattle_Seahawks_Collectibles/Seattle_Seahawks_2014_NFC_Champions_Framed_20_x_24_Collage_with_Piece_of_Game-Used_Football_-_Limited_Edition_of_100


Wow, that is just amazing that piece of memorabilia is on their own website.

Did anyone just catch Sherm's presser??....Loved it, he just called out the NFL and the Patriots, I was somewhat shocked even Sherm said what he said. Wish I had a link, it should be all over NFL network tonight. He just stirred up a buzz, no doubt Patriot players are gonna be asked their reaction to it, yet another distraction. Sherm ain't dumb, he said that for a reason. LOL, I love that he said the NFL won't do anything to the Patriots cause Kraft and Goddell have been seen in each other's homes recently on social occasions, called it a conflict of interest. Man, I love this guy!!
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby savvyman » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:17 pm

Agent 86 wrote:
Wow, that is just amazing that piece of memorabilia is on their own website.

Did anyone just catch Sherm's presser??....Loved it, he just called out the NFL and the Patriots, I was somewhat shocked even Sherm said what he said. Wish I had a link, it should be all over NFL network tonight. He just stirred up a buzz, no doubt Patriot players are gonna be asked their reaction to it, yet another distraction. Sherm ain't dumb, he said that for a reason. LOL, I love that he said the NFL won't do anything to the Patriots cause Kraft and Goddell have been seen in each other's homes recently on social occasions, called it a conflict of interest. Man, I love this guy!!



Yep - I think Sherman just verbally "Grabbed his Crotch" at the NFL ruling parties upon landing.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/laces-out/super-bowl-2015-richard-sherman-quote-darrelle-revis-roger-goodell-robert-kraft-012515
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:37 pm

I never got over the fact that Tagliabue sat beside Rooney in his luxury suite during SBXL.i doubt he did that expecting a bummer party later. I wondered if it was the only message Leavy and the boys needed.

I understand there has to be interaction between executives but It looks unseemly to be hobnobbing so close to a huge game or even during the game.Blandino on the Jones party bus didn't need to happen either, at any time of the year.
Kudos to Sherman for calling out that lying POS Goodell.The league is a mess of mistrust and uneven discipline
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:08 pm

To drive home Your point - the NFL is making money off selling an item that has an image of Marshwan grabbing his Crotch.

The Irony....... or Hipocracy.......... or the Incompetency of the clowns who run the NFL........

http://m.nflshop.com/Seattle_Seahawks_C ... ion_of_100


Sums up the NFL pretty much, the NFL doesn't give two shakes about what kids, and Soccer moms might think or feel, they care about marketing and nothing else. They don't back up anything with consistent effort, statements or actions, they care about one thing and ONLY one thing and that is $$$$$$$
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:20 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Sums up the NFL pretty much, the NFL doesn't give two shakes about what kids, and Soccer moms might think or feel, they care about marketing and nothing else. They don't back up anything with consistent effort, statements or actions, they care about one thing and ONLY one thing and that is $$$$$$$


No different than any other major corporation in the country.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby monkey » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:28 pm

I laugh at the stereotypes that get thrown around in comments by idiot fans and SEVERAL well known members of the media, who think that Sherman is "stupid".
Sherm has just figured out a way to, put the NFL's hypocrisy on center stage, rather than Lynch's crotch grabbing.
He isn't going to win, nobody "wins" against the NFL, and he knows that, but he's managed to at least stir up enough controversy and talk among the fans, that the league has another black eye if it does nothing, or if it continues to go after Lynch while letting the deflate gate pass by.

Sherm not smart? Ha! He's very clever. He knows good and well that the anti NFL sentiment has been building up steadily over the past year, and that calling them out now, the way he did, is going to earn him more fans than his calling out Crabtree ever did.
People are suddenly seeing him for who he really is. I love that he's calling the NFL's hypocrisy.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:36 pm

Sherman might be a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby HumanCockroach » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:16 pm

No different than any other major corporation in the country


Fair enough, and when a coorporation acts in this way publicly, heads roll, people lose jobs, and the public is irate about it, why should the NFL be any different?

Your entitled to not caring, please don't tell me I shouldn't. Thanks.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby RiverDog » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:16 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Fair enough, and when a coorporation acts in this way publicly, heads roll, people lose jobs, and the public is irate about it, why should the NFL be any different?

Your entitled to not caring, please don't tell me I shouldn't. Thanks.


Although I'm not a deeply religious man, I'm reminded of a prayer I've referred to that has sustained me when I am faced with similar but more consequential matters:

God grant me the Courage to change the things that I can, the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, and the Wisdom to tell the difference between the two.

So while I do care, I've learned to accept corporate behavior as one of those things I can't change so it no longer causes my blood pressure to rise as it does with some people. And of course, I've never told you want to think. I'm only telling you what I think. :D
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby HumanCockroach » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:06 pm

Big reason why the world is in it's current state IMHO. Far to many people "accept" condemable practices because they " can't change it". I'm fine with becoming upset about hypocracy, dishonesty, greed, cheating etc. Not sure ignoring, or accepting that stuff is what God was attempting to teach us, but to each his own.
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Re: Seahawks will be penalized if Lynch grabs crotch in SB

Postby mykc14 » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:20 pm

HumanCockroach wrote:Big reason why the world is in it's current state IMHO. Far to many people "accept" condemable practices because they " can't change it". I'm fine with becoming upset about hypocracy, dishonesty, greed, cheating etc. Not sure ignoring, or accepting that stuff is what God was attempting to teach us, but to each his own.


This sort of reminds me of my favorite quote and it comes from the man himself, MLK: "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." That quote and the ideal behind is one of the main reasons I got into teaching.
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