Kubiac as the OC

[4XPIPS]

I guess the reality now is how much of history in drafting offensive lineman was influenced by Pete Carroll, because we all new he had final say on player decisions. I know it has been made public that John Schneider feels guards are an overreach in the first round, but maybe this time around with him making the final decision he try and build the team with his vision in mind. This next FA period and draft, will certainly tell a lot of how much he has learned and adjusted too, because let's be honest it was Pete's show the entire time.

[NorthHawk]

A number of those years were heavily influenced by Tom Cable who tried a number of times to convert DL to OL, but as noted above he or JS moved on just before they were going become serviceable. Glowinski is the one that stands out as he had a surprising to me long career and was on some good OLs on the Colts. He retired last year after a 9 year career. But as has become a common theme in Seattle for IOL, he was waived just before getting a good paycheck. He was followed by Pocic who was a Center playing Guard, and was let go after a couple of injuries in 2 consecutive seasons. Pocic was signed by the Browns who then extended him with a 3 year contract at Center where he currently plays.

[TriCitySam]

Not real sure about draft history. JS has said multiple times that Pete "rarely" used his final say and let him handle the draft. If that's the case, the what we've seen over the years is mostly JS doing.

[Irish Greg 2.0]

I guess the reality now is how much of history in drafting offensive lineman was influenced by Pete Carroll, because we all new he had final say on player decisions. I know it has been made public that John Schneider feels guards are an overreach in the first round, but maybe this time around with him making the final decision he try and build the team with his vision in mind. This next FA period and draft, will certainly tell a lot of how much he has learned and adjusted too, because let's be honest it was Pete's show the entire time.

I mean, JS literally said it in an interview last spring. He feels guards get "over drafted and overpaid".

[c_hawkbob]

I guess the reality now is how much of history in drafting offensive lineman was influenced by Pete Carroll, because we all new he had final say on player decisions. I know it has been made public that John Schneider feels guards are an overreach in the first round, but maybe this time around with him making the final decision he try and build the team with his vision in mind. This next FA period and draft, will certainly tell a lot of how much he has learned and adjusted too, because let's be honest it was Pete's show the entire time.

I mean, JS literally said it in an interview last spring. He feels guards get "over drafted and overpaid".

Yep. Said it years ago too when he was fairly new and being asked such things. I've always figured it was just common knowledge amongst us fans.

[NorthHawk]

Which is odd because he came from Green Bay under Ron Wolfe who espoused building teams starting with a strong OL.
Maybe he should return to his roots and focus on building from the inside out.

[Aseahawkfan]

I've always understood you can't pay for a high quality O-line across the board due to salary cap restraint, so you often have to give a little with the O-line so you can pay the other skill position players. I still feel a good O-line philosophy is have at least the left side of the line or the LT and the Center can be well paid to retain quality players. I feel like having one high quality tackle, preferably left, and one high quality interior lineman, preferably left guard or center, is worth the monetary investment. They can you afford to spend less on the rest of the O-line if you have a couple of cornerstone pieces.

But this "guards are overpaid and overdrafted" is rubbish to me. A good guard is every bit worth the money, especially if you can pair them with a good LT or center. We've seen that firsthand in Seattle for years. Big Walt and Hutch blew holes in opposing D-lines and steamrolled running lanes that a no name RB could run through. If Marshawn had had Big Walt and Hutch as his blockers, they would have blown holes in D-lines with no one able to stop Marshawn. I can't even imagine how ridiculous a run game we would have with a couple of steamrollers paving lanes for a Mack truck running back.

[NorthHawk]

I've come across a couple of statements from people saying that Kubiak likes to have his Center call most of the blocking assignments without much input from the QB.
The result of this is a Center in his system has to be smart and fully understand the play calls. Not all Centers can do that and it's been suggested that maybe a former player for Kubiak might be targeted in FA. I think Drew Dahlman was mentioned.

[TriCitySam]

JS has a philosophy rooted in what he learned from HOF GM Ron Wolf, who had great success with Raiders, Packers and Chiefs, never had a losing season. Wolf had a clear philosophy: draft the BPA, not for need. Mix that with veterans to give the young talent time to develop. The last day of the draft is when you get your best players, cause you simply stay with your draft board. If you hit on 3 of 7, that's a good draft ("it's very difficult")And when it came to QB's, look down the road, draft one every year. The best QB can likely be a 6th round pick. If you hit on 3 of 7, that's a good draft ("it's very difficult")

[4XPIPS]

Well circling back to Kubiak here, he is going to work with familiar faces

https://www.seahawks.com/news/seahawks- ... hing-staff

[NorthHawk]

JS has a philosophy rooted in what he learned from HOF GM Ron Wolf, who had great success with Raiders, Packers and Chiefs, never had a losing season. Wolf had a clear philosophy: draft the BPA, not for need. Mix that with veterans to give the young talent time to develop. The last day of the draft is when you get your best players, cause you simply stay with your draft board. If you hit on 3 of 7, that's a good draft ("it's very difficult")And when it came to QB's, look down the road, draft one every year. The best QB can likely be a 6th round pick. If you hit on 3 of 7, that's a good draft ("it's very difficult")

His philosophy was also keep building the lines on both Offense and Defense and almost always came out of a draft with a good OL or DL.

[River Dog]

I saw something that made me laugh that I have to share with you guys. It's one of those the truth hurts type jokes.

Does anyone know if Kubiac has any lazy route plays that we can utilize Metcalf on?

[4XPIPS]

I saw something that made me laugh that I have to share with you guys. It's one of those the truth hurts type jokes.

Does anyone know if Kubiac has any lazy route plays that we can utilize Metcalf on?

I never even heard for the concept of a lazy route. Well I mean my 14 year old nephew who plays flag football would be aligned to this.