Article: " Seven new potential OC coaches for Hawks to consi

[Spohawk5092]

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2025/ ... ossible-c/

[NorthHawk]

Good find. I've been wondering who might be options for the new OC.

I like the idea of McCown because he bounced around the league as a QB and learned a lot of different Offenses and understands QBs and how they see the game.
He also would know the importance of a good OL. A bonus would be if we drafted a QB as a possible QBOTF.

Kafka? Maybe but I thought the Giants made him an Assistant HC in order to keep him so he might be hard to lure to Seattle.

Tee Martin sounds like he could fit what MacDonald wants as his tenure in Baltimore means he understands the underlying philosophy of how the Offense should look. He's a bit green in the coaching yet for OC and does MacDonald want to try someone who's not very experienced again?

Would the Rams let LaFleur go to an in division rival?

Frank Smith could help in getting the run blocking in order and influence what type of players are needed. Working under Mike McDaniel would give him an insight into creating different plays.

Schottenheimer? Would he want to come back to work for Schneider after his stay here before?

Pederson? Possible if his heart is in it after being let go. I thought I read somewhere that he said he wanted Jacksonville to be his last coaching stop. But maybe I'm in error on this.

[Oly]

Good find. I've been wondering who might be options for the new OC.

I like the idea of McCown because he bounced around the league as a QB and learned a lot of different Offenses and understands QBs and how they see the game.
He also would know the importance of a good OL. A bonus would be if we drafted a QB as a possible QBOTF.

Kafka? Maybe but I thought the Giants made him an Assistant HC in order to keep him so he might be hard to lure to Seattle.

Tee Martin sounds like he could fit what MacDonald wants as his tenure in Baltimore means he understands the underlying philosophy of how the Offense should look. He's a bit green in the coaching yet for OC and does MacDonald want to try someone who's not very experienced again?

Would the Rams let LaFleur go to an in division rival?

Frank Smith could help in getting the run blocking in order and influence what type of players are needed. Working under Mike McDaniel would give him an insight into creating different plays.

Schottenheimer? Would he want to come back to work for Schneider after his stay here before?

Pederson? Possible if his heart is in it after being let go. I thought I read somewhere that he said he wanted Jacksonville to be his last coaching stop. But maybe I'm in error on this.

McCown is also the name that intrigued me most, for the same reasons. I like his breadth of knowledge; he knows what it's like to run a bunch of different offenses, and I'd think that will help him as a coordinator.

[Aseahawkfan]

I don't know any of these guys, so I'll trust your guys take on it. I would like a more complex passing game and I'd love to see us execute a screen well.

Mainly, I'd like an OC who really does fix the O-line. We've had so many guys hyped up as good with the O-line in terms of O-line coaches and OC, here we are years later still talking about how bad our O-line is. It would be real nice to have an OC that can really fix the O-line and finally get that unit performing at least at a top 15 level.

[4XPIPS]

I wouldn't rush the search. I believe McCown is looking for the fast path to being a HC, he was considered to be the HC for the Texans after he played a season with them right after they dumped Lovie Smith. If McCown had one solid season as an OC and a dumpster fire position for HC opened up let's say the Raiders, Jags, Panthers, Jets, or Giants he would jump on it. I am not sure about him, and for the rest it's hard to say. But if I had to pick from that group, I would take a shot with Mike LaFleur. I believe his background with the Rams under McVay to me would be a better path to playing more sound football.

[NorthHawk]

I wouldn't rush the search. I believe McCown is looking for the fast path to being a HC, he was considered to be the HC for the Texans after he played a season with them right after they dumped Lovie Smith. If McCown had one solid season as an OC and a dumpster fire position for HC opened up let's say the Raiders, Jags, Panthers, Jets, or Giants he would jump on it. I am not sure about him, and for the rest it's hard to say. But if I had to pick from that group, I would take a shot with Mike LaFleur. I believe his background with the Rams under McVay to me would be a better path to playing more sound football.

Most OCs would jump at the chance to be a HC, so there's not much new there. Being an OC has always been looked at as the jumping off point to the brass ring. That's how the league gets new, and good HCs with different ideas.
The other option would be an older OC who has been a HC and feels more comfortable as an OC or like the Lions Ben Johnson sees a team that could win it all and wants to experience that before striking out on his own.
So that would leave us with Pederson of this group.

[NorthHawk]

The Seahawks have asked to interview Klint Kubiak the current OC for the Saints. He's under contract though so they might be turned down.
Others that have been mentioned as showing interest from Seattle are Hank Fraley OL coach of the Lions. He used to be a Center when he played in the NFL so he might be able to fix the IOL issues.
Thomas Brown interm OC for the Bears and former OC of the Panthers is also on the list.
Chip Kelly is being mentioned as an OC in the NFL somewhere and maybe he ends up here.

[Aseahawkfan]

The Seahawks have asked to interview Klint Kubiak the current OC for the Saints. He's under contract though so they might be turned down.
Others that have been mentioned as showing interest from Seattle are Hank Fraley OL coach of the Lions. He used to be a Center when he played in the NFL so he might be able to fix the IOL issues.
Thomas Brown interm OC for the Bears and former OC of the Panthers is also on the list.
Chip Kelly is being mentioned as an OC in the NFL somewhere and maybe he ends up here.

What do you think of Klint Kubiak?

O-line coach from the Lions? That could be interesting.

[NorthHawk]

I don't know much about Klint Kubiak other than he seems to be respected around the league (he's Gary's son). So much so that he's often named as a possible HC and he was promoted to Assistant HC last year so the Saints could keep him.

Fraley could be interesting because Centers have to know the OL in its entirety and how they work together, however I don't know that he's ever called plays so that could be an issue. After Grubb, I doubt we look to another coach who is not
experienced in the NFL at calling plays at this level.

[NorthHawk]

Apparently we are interviewing Klimt Kubiak tomorrow (Tuesday Jan 14th) about the OC position.

[NorthHawk]

From Profootballtalk:

Mike Garafolo of NFL Media reports that the Seahawks have requested an interview with Vikings assistant offensive coordinator/assistant quarterbacks coach Grant Udinski

[NorthHawk]

Profootballtalk is reporting that the Seahawks are giving Klimt Kubiak a 2nd interview on Friday.

[Aseahawkfan]

Profootballtalk is reporting that the Seahawks are giving Klimt Kubiak a 2nd interview on Friday.

Does Kubiak value O-line? Wasn't Gary Mike Shanahan's OC? And they liked that zone blocking scheme Denver used for their running game. Yep, sure enough Gary Kubiak is from the Mike Shanahan coaching tree. Makes me wonder if John wants to bring back zone blocking again, which tends to devalue O-line and and interior O-line.

[NorthHawk]

Mike Shanahans blocking scheme was based on Alex Gibbs cut blocking which has now been outlawed for the most part.
Klint Kubiak comes more from the Kyle Shanahan/Shawn McVay blocking system which I believe is more power based. If you look at the LA Rams they have some pretty big linemen who can get some push up front. So I would think Kline Kubiaks system would be more modern than Mike Shanahans old philosophy.

[NorthHawk]

According to Dan Graziano the Seahawks are interviewing Hank Fraley today in Seattle. It's the 2nd interview for him.
I think they need to make a decision sooner than later or they could lose out on the guy they really want.

[4XPIPS]

According to Dan Graziano the Seahawks are interviewing Hank Fraley today in Seattle. It's the 2nd interview for him.
I think they need to make a decision sooner than later or they could lose out on the guy they really want.

Lock him in... let's go!!

[c_hawkbob]

According to Dan Graziano the Seahawks are interviewing Hank Fraley today in Seattle. It's the 2nd interview for him.
I think they need to make a decision sooner than later or they could lose out on the guy they really want.

Lock him in... let's go!!

He's my choice as well.

[River Dog]

My only concern about Fraley is that he's never done any play calling. But I do like the fact that he's a big ugly. He's also 47 years old, so he has some experience under his belt.

[4XPIPS]

My only concern about Fraley is that he's never done any play calling. But I do like the fact that he's a big ugly. He's also 47 years old, so he has some experience under his belt.

Well you got to get a start somewhere. He has been around the league for sometime, and has worked with some creative minds as a player and coach. A lot of the play designs that Ben Johnson used through out the season are feed back from his players position coaches. Reason why I am for this hire, it's sort out of the box hire, but I would much prefer him. I would presume this type of hire would help shore up the run blocking and run game scheme.

[Aseahawkfan]

My only concern about Fraley is that he's never done any play calling. But I do like the fact that he's a big ugly. He's also 47 years old, so he has some experience under his belt.

Lack of play calling experience with a defensive head coach who isn't used to managing an offense could be a problem. With Pete, you knew he could do OC duties if needed as Pete was sort of like Bill B in that he had studied everything.

Maybe this guy is ready for the next step up and I do like the O-line experience. Every OC had to start somewhere. If you get a new guy who really wants it, sometimes they do great working extra hard to prove themselves. If he could fix the dang O-line, that would go a long way to make us better.

[River Dog]

My only concern about Fraley is that he's never done any play calling. But I do like the fact that he's a big ugly. He's also 47 years old, so he has some experience under his belt.

Well you got to get a start somewhere. He has been around the league for sometime, and has worked with some creative minds as a player and coach. A lot of the play designs that Ben Johnson used through out the season are feed back from his players position coaches. Reason why I am for this hire, it's sort out of the box hire, but I would much prefer him. I would presume this type of hire would help shore up the run blocking and run game scheme.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the hire. I'm not necessarily advocating that we hire him, recognizing the fact that I don't know the innerworkings of Macdonald's program and I don't understand exactly what he wants to do. But if Fraley is the man Mac wants, I'm all for it. I'm just saying that the lack of play calling experience is a challenge Fraley is going to be faced with. The fact that he's 47 years old and has been around the league for a while helps. In some respects, he might have a better grip on play calling than Grubb did coming straight out of college.

[NorthHawk]

I think it's imperative that who they hire as OC is completely on board with MacDonald and his Offensive outlook. I've read a couple of articles saying Grubb and Mac were a little at odds during the year as philosophies clashed.
That type of discord or even the vibes of it never helps the team progress.

[River Dog]

I think it's imperative that who they hire as OC is completely on board with MacDonald and his Offensive outlook. I've read a couple of articles saying Grubb and Mac were a little at odds during the year as philosophies clashed.
That type of discord or even the vibes of it never helps the team progress.

Supposedly Grubb is the guy Macdonald wanted, so something doesn't add up.

That's why I said whoever Macdonald wanted, I'm all for. He has to have his own guys and not coaches forced upon him by the GM.

[4XPIPS]

It's interesting the Lions wouldn't try and keep Fraley in house now that both of their coordinators have left the Lions for HC jobs.

[Oly]

It's interesting the Lions wouldn't try and keep Fraley in house now that both of their coordinators have left the Lions for HC jobs.

If they weren't, that would be concerning. But we don't know that they aren't. If I were Fraley, I'd be pretty pissed at the Lions organization if they didn't let me at least interview. For and up-and-coming coach, just the opportunity to apply and interview is helpful. Beyond that, maybe the Hawks are offering something that the Lions aren't (salary, control over something, etc.).

[c_hawkbob]

According to Albert Breer we could be splitting the OC job up:

Gregg Bell
@gbellseattle
Per
@AlbertBreer
: #Seahawks considering split of offensive coordinator: A run-game coordinator (perhaps Lions OL coach Hank Fraley, after 2 interviews) and pass-game coordinator (perhaps Raiders' Scott Turner)

They've done it before: Darrell Bevell/Tom Cable under Pete Carroll

[Aseahawkfan]

According to Albert Breer we could be splitting the OC job up:

Gregg Bell
@gbellseattle
Per
@AlbertBreer
: #Seahawks considering split of offensive coordinator: A run-game coordinator (perhaps Lions OL coach Hank Fraley, after 2 interviews) and pass-game coordinator (perhaps Raiders' Scott Turner)

They've done it before: Darrell Bevell/Tom Cable under Pete Carroll

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I don't love this. Not sure how well it worked when they did it the first time. You want an OC who has final say and runs the show.

[NorthHawk]

Who calls the plays will be the true OC.

[River Dog]

If I recall, Bevel was the OC and Tom Cable was the OL coach/assistant HC. Bevell always called the plays, so in my mind, he was the OC, and in fact he was referred to as the offensive coordinator.

But I could see a scenario where a former OL coach like Fraley could be named the OC and the QB coach the one responsible for play calling.

[NorthHawk]

I would think that would be difficult in that the HC will get fried by the media and maybe upper mgmt if the Offense fails even if he doesn’t call the plays. It was different when Bevell and Cable had that relationship because Carroll was VP of Football Operations which is basically upper management.

[Aseahawkfan]

I would think that would be difficult in that the HC will get fried by the media and maybe upper mgmt if the Offense fails even if he doesn’t call the plays. It was different when Bevell and Cable had that relationship because Carroll was VP of Football Operations which is basically upper management.

Carroll also knew defense and offense and monitored both closely. He could fix both sides of the ball if there were issues. Not sure how much Macdonald knows offense.

[NorthHawk]

As it turned out in the end he couldn’t fix either.

[Aseahawkfan]

As it turned out in the end he couldn’t fix either.

Pete had lost his ruthlessness at the end like most coaches. When he first got here, everything was a competition. Every position. No one was safe from getting cut. He wanted the absolutely best performance and they were turning over every rock to find players and upgrade the talent. Then he became impatient and delusional after that Super Bowl loss, like he wanted to get back as fast as possible to wash the taste out of his mouth and forgot how to build a team.

Bad trades to patch fix problems rather than accepting the need to revert to the competition for every spot mentality that build his first team.

Happens to every coach I've ever seen.

[NorthHawk]

Yeah, and in my opinion he became too loyal to his veteran players.

[Aseahawkfan]

Yeah, and in my opinion he became too loyal to his veteran players.

That also happens to almost every coach. Holmgren started off the same way and ended up the same way.

I figure coaches and players working so close together for so long develop an affection for each other and coaches have their favorites they get attached to as well that make coming to work feel better.

Almost natural for many type of management many times. That's why refreshing the coaches after a while and even the GM is necessary.

[Rambo2014]

ROFL

Pete Carroll is the new Raiders coach!!!

Br hilarious if they go to SB against Rams this coming season

LOL

[River Dog]

It looks like Fraley is out:

The Seattle Seahawks will not be hiring Detroit Lions offensive line coach Hank Fraley as their offensive coordinator despite him being a frontrunner for the job.

Fraley is staying in Detroit, per Justin Rogers of the Detroit Football Network, but it's unclear whether he will remain in his current role or receive a promotion. That removes a serious candidate from Seattle's pool of coaches they have interviewed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... a94e&ei=17

They'd better hurry up and pull the trigger on someone. Snooze you lose.

[c_hawkbob]

Be interesting to find out if we offered him the job.

[River Dog]

Be interesting to find out if we offered him the job.

It kinda sounds to me like he and his family want to stay put in Detroit. He might have been playing footsie with the Hawks just to increase his bargaining power with the Lions.

[NorthHawk]

I agree that they need to make a decision soon. Other teams are finishing building their coaching staffs. Soon they won’t have a choice.