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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:26 pm

NorthHawk wrote:It puts them in a tough position as they already have a weak spot on the OL and there's a possibility that Geno walks (there's talk that he wants in the $45M range) if he doesn't get what he wants and now DK?
They may have put themselves in a jam and it's way too much to fill in one off season and would take an Offense that was be productive at times and make it worse.
I can see JS letting Geno go and getting another QB like Darnold or someone else but not both.


I think we need to roll the dice with a cheaper and younger QB, and invest in a better offensive line. I have supported Geno as a starter, but at $45 Mil it isn't worth it at his age and his redzone woes. I know he has low mileage on his body from sitting all those years, but signing him to a larger deal at his age and not developing our next QB is just setting the team back further. I enjoy a winning season, but we need to be a top 5 defense and a top 5 rushing offense for us to be competitive. Of course there are a lot of moving pieces for that to happen, but if we had a top 5 D and top 5 run game, any above average QB could work with that.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:58 am

In todays NFL it's becoming more important for QBs to be mobile. They don't have to be run first, but they need to be able to make plays running the ball from time to time unlike the days when Peyton Manning or others who were pure pocket passers were most wanted. The whole backfield is changing with more RBs becoming involved in the pass game and QBs running more than ever. So the trick is to get a mobile QB who is also a good passer who thinks like a pocket passer - and that's somewhat of a rarity. Of all the teams that made the playoffs this year I believe it's only the Rams, Steelers, and Vikings who didn't have a very mobile QB or one that could take off and make first downs on his own.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:05 am

NorthHawk wrote:In todays NFL it's becoming more important for QBs to be mobile. They don't have to be run first, but they need to be able to make plays running the ball from time to time unlike the days when Peyton Manning or others who were pure pocket passers were most wanted. The whole backfield is changing with more RBs becoming involved in the pass game and QBs running more than ever. So the trick is to get a mobile QB who is also a good passer who thinks like a pocket passer - and that's somewhat of a rarity. Of all the teams that made the playoffs this year I believe it's only the Rams, Steelers, and Vikings who didn't have a very mobile QB or one that could take off and make first downs on his own.


Agreed.

There's going to be some relatively young, mobile quarterbacks that might be available prior to the draft. We've talked about several, including Justin Fields and Will Levis. That's probably a more viable tact vs. drafting one.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:11 am

On another note there is a rumor that Pete Carroll is a strong candidate in Las Vegas. It could provide a destination for Geno should we cut him as Pete knows what he can do and had a lot of faith in him. Maybe even trade him for a mid round pick if they don't see a path to a contract that is favorable for Seattle.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:20 am

NorthHawk wrote:On another note there is a rumor that Pete Carroll is a strong candidate in Las Vegas. It could provide a destination for Geno should we cut him as Pete knows what he can do and had a lot of faith in him. Maybe even trade him for a mid round pick if they don't see a path to a contract that is favorable for Seattle.


Pete was supposedly up for the Bears job, too, but it looks like they're going with Ben Johnson. Wouldn't it be interesting if the Cowboys hired Pete?

Honest question: Isn't Pete still under contract with us? We never formally fired him. I'm wondering if we would get any compensation from a team who hires him.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:31 am

I honestly don't know if he's still under contract but I also think that they wouldn't stand in his way of getting another job. It might have been a 1 year deal to finish his contract.

Here's the link for the article about Carroll and the Raiders.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/ ... ers-hc-job

It would make a lot of sense for them to sign him because he would bring a lot of stability and a big culture change.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby Stream Hawk » Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:30 am

I don't have a link but Pete is no longer under contract here. Vegas would be an exciting opportunity for him.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:05 pm

With Tom Brady as a minority owner of the Raiders it will be interesting to see how much input he puts on hiring a HC.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:27 pm

NorthHawk wrote:In todays NFL it's becoming more important for QBs to be mobile. They don't have to be run first, but they need to be able to make plays running the ball from time to time unlike the days when Peyton Manning or others who were pure pocket passers were most wanted. The whole backfield is changing with more RBs becoming involved in the pass game and QBs running more than ever. So the trick is to get a mobile QB who is also a good passer who thinks like a pocket passer - and that's somewhat of a rarity. Of all the teams that made the playoffs this year I believe it's only the Rams, Steelers, and Vikings who didn't have a very mobile QB or one that could take off and make first downs on his own.


Makes perfect sense.

Dillon Gabriel of Oregon may fall to us in the later rounds. His last game against the Buckeyes will be a game he would want to soon forget. His numbers were not all that bad in the game for passing, but he did take 8 sacks. Failed to make line adjustments, and failed to recognize the weakside blitzes against the superior Buckeyes. Albeit Oregon was going into the game #1, and had previously used a hitch in the rule book earlier in the season to beat the Buckeyes, the game was over at halftime.

Reason I bring up Dillon Gabriel, is fits that mold of a mobile passer who can move around the pocket, well maybe not so much in the CFP against the Buckeyes. He is going to be 25 next season, which would be quite older than most rookie QBs coming out of college.

Positives, athletic thrower, but only short to intermediate passer. Just like Bo Nix, a lot of negative outlook on his deep passing because Oregon runs a style of offense that relies on crossing routes, rub routes, and screens. His pro-day/combine should hopefully squash that, but I don't think he will go in the first round. So he may slip and be an interesting candidate for QB.

My only holdback is that he is a Oregon Duck QB, and I can't think of any former Duck QB to be a top quality franchise QB for a long period of time. Justin Herbert, isn't setting the world on fire and completely s*** the bed in the playoff game this year. So I am always skeptical about Oregon Duck QBs.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:25 pm

I hate that they call this a rumor, when it's just Jeremy Flower spewing his mind on DK, but there is some links floating around of the idea of DK being traded to the Chargers. Again it's just offseason bla bla bla, but if it were a possibility the Chargers could do it as they have a projected $74.4 million in available cap space.

https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-cha ... awks-trade
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby Aseahawkfan » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:37 pm

4XPIPS wrote:I hate that they call this a rumor, when it's just Jeremy Flower spewing his mind on DK, but there is some links floating around of the idea of DK being traded to the Chargers. Again it's just offseason bla bla bla, but if it were a possibility the Chargers could do it as they have a projected $74.4 million in available cap space.

https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-cha ... awks-trade


MacDonald does have a strong connection with the Harbaughs, so could happen. Jim does need a receiver for Justin Herbert. He's the kind of QB that could use a receiver like DK.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:49 am

4XPIPS wrote:I hate that they call this a rumor, when it's just Jeremy Flower spewing his mind on DK, but there is some links floating around of the idea of DK being traded to the Chargers. Again it's just offseason bla bla bla, but if it were a possibility the Chargers could do it as they have a projected $74.4 million in available cap space.

https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-cha ... awks-trade


Yeah, the sports writers need juicy headlines to get readers to click on their articles and subject themselves to the advertising that goes with it, so I wouldn't put any weight in it. Nevertheless, it is an entertaining prospect.
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