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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:50 pm

4XPIPS wrote:I wouldn't mine taking a shot at Will Levis, like for a 6th round Pick. The arm talent is there, and I really believe Titans are an organizational blackhole at QB. Dating back to when they drafted Jack Locker, they have never been able to develop a solid QB year after year even with multiple coaching and GM changes this team just can't develop a QB. I would take a low risk shot at Will Levis and hopefully get a solid QB coach to work with him.


If I recall, Cbob was pretty high on Levis coming out of college. Many, if not most pundits had him in the top 10, but he fell out of the first round. The Titans took him with the #33 overall. JS had a chance to take Levis twice in the first round and passed. Of course, we don't what kind of influence Pete had on the decision, either, but I'm going to guess that we won't bite. We've already traded for a very similar QB in Sam Howell.

The problem with Geno is similar to the problem of the team overall. He's not playing well enough to take us deep into the playoffs, but he's not playing poorly enough to justify moving on from him given that there isn't a viable alternative. We're between a rock and a hard spot.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:11 pm

Levis needed a year to develop and work on his technique. He isn’t going to get that in Tennessee. But if we did acquire him we will have to have in place an OC/QB coach whose Offense matches Levi’s’ skill set.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:19 pm

NorthHawk wrote:Levis needed a year to develop and work on his technique. He isn’t going to get that in Tennessee. But if we did acquire him we will have to have in place an OC/QB coach whose Offense matches Levi’s’ skill set.


I believe there are certain QBs who need to sit a year or two, and even a change of venue can work wonders. We have seen time after time young QBs benefit from sitting and developing. As for Levis, it wouldn't be out of the realm to take a low risk trade for him, seeing what the Steelers traded for Justin Fields, it would almost make it a possibility. However, I think the priority would be to lock up an OC well before they decide to do at QB. Chances are they work up some sort of extension for Geno, but it would be nice to have something in the developmental stage while Geno is our bridge QB.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:17 pm

NorthHawk wrote:Levis needed a year to develop and work on his technique. He isn’t going to get that in Tennessee. But if we did acquire him we will have to have in place an OC/QB coach whose Offense matches Levi’s’ skill set.


4XPIPS wrote:I believe there are certain QBs who need to sit a year or two, and even a change of venue can work wonders. We have seen time after time young QBs benefit from sitting and developing. As for Levis, it wouldn't be out of the realm to take a low risk trade for him, seeing what the Steelers traded for Justin Fields, it would almost make it a possibility. However, I think the priority would be to lock up an OC well before they decide to do at QB. Chances are they work up some sort of extension for Geno, but it would be nice to have something in the developmental stage while Geno is our bridge QB.


I'm sure that we'll hire an OC well before we make any decisions about the quarterback position, which includes a possible extension for Geno. It would be insanity not to. Any smart manager is going to seek input from his team before making such a momentous decision.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:49 pm

River Dog wrote:
I'm sure that we'll hire an OC well before we make any decisions about the quarterback position, which includes a possible extension for Geno. It would be insanity not to. Any smart manager is going to seek input from his team before making such a momentous decision.


It's truly sad because we moved the ball so well between the 20s throughout the season, but we were 21st in Red Zone Efficiency at home. How is it in our home stadium we ranked 21st in the league in Redzone TD efficiency? However, on the road we were 11th? Hopefully a new OC can be more efficient especially at home.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby c_hawkbob » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:19 pm

Yes I was all for getting Levis, still am even if we do re-sign Geno. Saw him do some pretty special stuff at UK.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby Aseahawkfan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:37 pm

A good recovery QB wouldn't be bad as long as younger with a lot of tread left on the tire. We've seen quality QB prospects go to another team and prosper like Jim Plunkett, Drew Brees, Rich Gannon, and Jared Goff. The only way it seems Seattle is getting a number one pick QB is trading for some busted pick that we turn around.

I'd rather take the shot with Trevor Lawrence as the Jaguars are a mess and Lawrence has been trapped there. I think he might shine on a different team with the right OC and QB coach developing him. If I could get the Jaguars to trade Lawrence, I'd do it in a heartbeat, probably spend a fairly high pick too. Lawrence was an amazing college QB that was about as sure a thing as you can get for a number one overall pick that ended up on the Jags where careers go to die. His NFL production has been pretty good on a really bad team. What can he do on a team with real support?

If John Schneider could pull off grabbing Trevor Lawrence, I'd call that a trade like the Marshawn trade in Pete and John's early years.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:27 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:A good recovery QB wouldn't be bad as long as younger with a lot of tread left on the tire. We've seen quality QB prospects go to another team and prosper like Jim Plunkett, Drew Brees, Rich Gannon, and Jared Goff. The only way it seems Seattle is getting a number one pick QB is trading for some busted pick that we turn around.

I'd rather take the shot with Trevor Lawrence as the Jaguars are a mess and Lawrence has been trapped there. I think he might shine on a different team with the right OC and QB coach developing him. If I could get the Jaguars to trade Lawrence, I'd do it in a heartbeat, probably spend a fairly high pick too. Lawrence was an amazing college QB that was about as sure a thing as you can get for a number one overall pick that ended up on the Jags where careers go to die. His NFL production has been pretty good on a really bad team. What can he do on a team with real support?

If John Schneider could pull off grabbing Trevor Lawrence, I'd call that a trade like the Marshawn trade in Pete and John's early years.


Lawrence isn't going to come cheap. If the Jags are interested in trading him, they're keeping their cards close to the vest. On the other hand, the Titans have obviously thrown in the towel on Levis as they benched him at the end of the season, although I doubt that we could get him for anything less than a 2nd day pick.

As always, there's going to be a lot of QB-needy teams, especially since this QB draft class is pretty weak. And I'm not convinced that JS has given up on Sam Howell. He hasn't done anything to take himself out of the mix.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby Aseahawkfan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:52 pm

River Dog wrote:Lawrence isn't going to come cheap. If the Jags are interested in trading him, they're keeping their cards close to the vest. On the other hand, the Titans have obviously thrown in the towel on Levis as they benched him at the end of the season, although I doubt that we could get him for anything less than a 2nd day pick.

As always, there's going to be a lot of QB-needy teams, especially since this QB draft class is pretty weak. And I'm not convinced that JS has given up on Sam Howell. He hasn't done anything to take himself out of the mix.


I'd rather draft someone then. Trevor Lawrence looks the most fun if you're going to take a shot at a recovery product.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:44 am

River Dog wrote:Lawrence isn't going to come cheap. If the Jags are interested in trading him, they're keeping their cards close to the vest. On the other hand, the Titans have obviously thrown in the towel on Levis as they benched him at the end of the season, although I doubt that we could get him for anything less than a 2nd day pick.

As always, there's going to be a lot of QB-needy teams, especially since this QB draft class is pretty weak. And I'm not convinced that JS has given up on Sam Howell. He hasn't done anything to take himself out of the mix.


Aseahawkfan wrote:I'd rather draft someone then. Trevor Lawrence looks the most fun if you're going to take a shot at a recovery product.


The problem with that strategy is that (1) the draft class for quarterbacks is pretty weak and (2) we don't have a lot of draft capital to move up and snag one of the better ones.

Another name that has been floated has been Justin Fields. He's a free agent so we wouldn't have to trade anything for him. That would allow us to address our other issues through the draft, like rebuilding the offensive line.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:42 am

If the Titans select a QB in the 1st round of the draft, we could land Levis as an inexpensive project, but if Quinn Ewers is there at 18, I would suspect JS would take him.
Other than that, I would suspect any QB acquisition would be in the mid to late rounds.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:07 pm

NorthHawk wrote:If the Titans select a QB in the 1st round of the draft, we could land Levis as an inexpensive project, but if Quinn Ewers is there at 18, I would suspect JS would take him.
Other than that, I would suspect any QB acquisition would be in the mid to late rounds.



Any QB taken in this upcoming draft will be a reach, as most of them aren't pro ready as the prior draft. Sanders will be a flash in the pan draft pick, and I think Quinn will land somewhere near the 2nd round. Cam Ward is the only real prospect worth drafting in the 1st round, but he reminds me so much of Anthony Richardson, that he wouldn't be ready to start right away and will need time to develop.

I would not take Justin Fields or even bother signing him as he hasn't shown to read the field even with a good offensive line. I'd be way more excited to trade a 6th or 7th for Levis.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:55 pm

I think Sanders is more Pro ready than Ward and has at least the same upside as Ward. the wildcard is how much if any distraction will his father be and would there be a lot of public questioning if /when theres a rough streak. Sanders never played behind a good OL so his successes could be thought of as being even more impressive.

But they both need to sit for at least the majority of the season like any of the 3 or maybe 4 QBs drafted in the 1st round this year. Even though the true talent of this years QB class might not equate to being 1st round, they are almost always over drafted with teams willing to take a big gamble to get a player who could get them to the ‘holy land’. So I would expect at least 3 taken in round 1 and maybe us taking Ewers if he’s there at 18.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby Aseahawkfan » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:24 pm

So I'm listening to sports radio and I'm sure some of you already know this, but we're one of five teams over the cap. So we have paid a lot of money for very little. How much does John have to cut to get this cap reasonable and continue to free up money for this rebuild? We're obviously not ready to compete for a Super Bowl right now. We have a lot of expensive contracts that aren't producing. John really has his work cut out for him cleaning up this roster with the badly managed cap.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:56 pm

Lockett is probably gone and if they extended DK the Cap hit could be minimal not to mention what we do with Geno.
Do they try to get Darnold for cheaper than what Geno wants? Do they draft a QB and just bite the bullet for a year with a backup QB? DreMont Jones hasn’t played like we’d hoped for so he could be a cut or maybe traded.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:53 pm

Here are the first 3 players that will be cut to clear up cap space

Tyler Lockett Cap Hit if on roster 2025 is $30.9 Mil, if waived dead money is $13.9 Mil freeing up $17 Mil

Dre'Mont Jones Cap Hit if on roster 2025 is $25.6 Mil, if waived dead money is $14 Mil freeing up $11.6 Mil (not sure why he is paid so much)

Noah Fant Cap Hit if on roster 2025 is $13.5 Mil, if waived dead money is $4.5 Mil freeing up $9 Mil (for sure getting waived)


Yeah as far as Dre'Mont goes I am not sure why they are paying him so much, since he is rotates quite a bit, and played ok last season.

Those three are getting waived for sure and will free up $37.6 Mil.

I am not 100% about Uchenna, but I can see him getting waived too

Uchenna Nwosu Cap Hit if on roster 2025 is $21.3 Mil, if waived dead money is $13 Mil freeing up $8.3 Mil

I would presume more cuts are coming but the ones above are the major ones, but they have a massive decision to make with DK and his future. There is a real possibility DK is on another team season.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby Aseahawkfan » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:18 pm

NorthHawk wrote:Lockett is probably gone and if they extended DK the Cap hit could be minimal not to mention what we do with Geno.
Do they try to get Darnold for cheaper than what Geno wants? Do they draft a QB and just bite the bullet for a year with a backup QB? DreMont Jones hasn’t played like we’d hoped for so he could be a cut or maybe traded.


Geno making 44 million or at least a 44 million cap hit is insane. The fact we're paying a backup producing QB that kind of money is nutty.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:31 pm

Check out Brandon Aiyuk’s contract. There’s a lot of slight of hand going on as he signed a 4 year $120M contract and his Cap hits are about $11.1M and $16.2M in 2025-26 then the team has an out for 2027 with a dead cap hit of about $9.2M.
So extending DK shouldn’t be a problem.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:59 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:Geno making 44 million or at least a 44 million cap hit is insane. The fact we're paying a backup producing QB that kind of money is nutty.


It's not stated in his contract, but Geno and the Hawks have an understanding that an extension are to be ironed out before he is signed to the roster for 2025. If they can't reach an agreement, he will 100% be cut. His average salary was geared to $25,000 per year, and that is pretty much what he was guaranteed which is a bargain compared to some other starting QBs. There was no intention of paying him on his 3rd or final year(2025) of his 3 years deal, so again if there is no agreement he is going to be cut, and he knew what he was guaranteed when he signed his deal.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:36 am

4XPIPS wrote:Here are the first 3 players that will be cut to clear up cap space

Tyler Lockett Cap Hit if on roster 2025 is $30.9 Mil, if waived dead money is $13.9 Mil freeing up $17 Mil

Dre'Mont Jones Cap Hit if on roster 2025 is $25.6 Mil, if waived dead money is $14 Mil freeing up $11.6 Mil (not sure why he is paid so much)

Noah Fant Cap Hit if on roster 2025 is $13.5 Mil, if waived dead money is $4.5 Mil freeing up $9 Mil (for sure getting waived)


Yeah as far as Dre'Mont goes I am not sure why they are paying him so much, since he is rotates quite a bit, and played ok last season.

Those three are getting waived for sure and will free up $37.6 Mil.

I am not 100% about Uchenna, but I can see him getting waived too

Uchenna Nwosu Cap Hit if on roster 2025 is $21.3 Mil, if waived dead money is $13 Mil freeing up $8.3 Mil

I would presume more cuts are coming but the ones above are the major ones, but they have a massive decision to make with DK and his future. There is a real possibility DK is on another team season.


Yeah, there's a lot of fat that can be cut from the roster. Although it would be nice if Lockett could retire as a Seahawk, IMO there's not a snowball's chance in hell that he's coming back under the terms of his current deal.

And you're right, next to the quarterback position, what happens with Metcalf will be the top story of our offseason. He had a down year this season, so his trade value has diminished somewhat, especially if he maintains the stance he adapted at the start of the season of wanting an extension.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:55 am

DK won't be traded this year. The cost is just too much to make it worth it. Rather he will be extended and the team will get the Cap savings of that extension.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:47 pm

According to PFT we interviewed Byron Leftwich for the vacant OC position as well as interviewed both Klint Kubiak and Grant Udinski for the 2nd time. Udinski is interesting as he is considered one of the young coaches who many believe is a future HC and might be an equivalent to Ben Johnson although with a different type of Offense. The possible downside is he’s very young at only 28 even though he’s been an assistant OC and QB coach in Minnesota.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:57 pm

NorthHawk wrote:According to PFT we interviewed Byron Leftwich for the vacant OC position as well as interviewed both Klint Kubiak and Grant Udinski for the 2nd time. Udinski is interesting as he is considered one of the young coaches who many believe is a future HC and might be an equivalent to Ben Johnson although with a different type of Offense. The possible downside is he’s very young at only 28 even though he’s been an assistant OC and QB coach in Minnesota.


28 years old is pretty darn young to be managing personalities like DK Metcalf. Of course, it depends on the person. You get a guy with fire in his eyes ala Dan Campbell, and I wouldn't let his age bother me. What would bother me about him is that he's a QB coach, and Mac is apparently trying to emphasize the running game.

Thomas Brown, the Bears interim coach after Eberflus was fired, worked on the Georgia staff with Macdonald, so that familiarity might make a difference.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:26 pm

McVay was just 30 when he was hired as the Rams HC, so an OC at 28 is doable if he has the chops.
The 2nd interviews suggest it’s down to a 2 horse race. But you never know until someone is signed.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Sun Jan 19, 2025 12:24 pm

NorthHawk wrote:DK won't be traded this year. The cost is just too much to make it worth it. Rather he will be extended and the team will get the Cap savings of that extension.


I totally disagree, DK will be considered for trade options. One year of dead money for a first round pick, or possibly a draft pick and player... umm yes the Hawks will be considering all options. If a team comes to the table with a high draft pick, or pick and player of need there will a high consideration to trade him if the offer is high enough, and you bet the John is going to weigh his options. With the exception of Deshaun Watson, no player cost to much for a team to not trade them, especially if the cap damage is for only one year.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:18 pm

According to Spotrac if we trade DK, we will get a $21M Dead Cap hit in 2025. As noted above, we are already struggling with getting the Cap in order. However, if we extend him we can significantly lower the Cap hit for a few years, just like the 49ers did with Ayuik.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:52 pm

NorthHawk wrote:According to Spotrac if we trade DK, we will get a $21M Dead Cap hit in 2025. As noted above, we are already struggling with getting the Cap in order. However, if we extend him we can significantly lower the Cap hit for a few years, just like the 49ers did with Ayuik.


This isn't anything new. Many players are on their last year of their contract, and taking trade offers are certainly something management would consider. Getting a 1st round pick would be something the Hawks would consider, even if it meant carrying over the cap hit into 2025. Teams do this all time. You are insinuating that the only option is to extend DK, considering his projected cap hit for 2025, and what if they don't work out a agreement? Cut him?

Let me explain the options for DK next season. Most of these options are unrealistic, but they are options.

So here are the realistic options

1) We work out an extension, which would inherently void his current contract and start fresh. Well considering the WR landscape has changed quite a bit in the last 2 to 3 years, and top WRs are getting massive guarantees surpassing the $100 mil guaranteed mark, would it be wise for the Hawks to tie up a lot of money into one player that some agree is elite, and some may not. Is he up there with the top 5 WRs in the league, well that's up for another debate? Far too often we have seen teams invest heavily into one player with a certain skillset, and that would avoid the opportunities to spend elsewhere. Do the Hawks see him in their long term plans? Is DK the type of person who would be modest and accept he isn't a top 3 to 4 WR and take less money, or does he feel he belongs in the $100 Mil+ guaranteed club? We can all agree the best players at their positions aren't always the highest paid. This will prove to be the most challenging avenue to take, considering a lot of factors will to go into this to make him the highest paid player on this team for 2025. If and extension is met he will be the highest paid player on the team going into 2025.

2) We field offers on trade. Again this is also challenging, as we would have to have teams out there are willing to take on his final year of earnings and be prepared to offer him a long term deal as they see fit. A team would have to value him high enough that they are willing to part ways with their draft capital. Yes we would take a cap hit, but that is cost of doing business to gaining draft capital, or player + pick combo. This is always an option as it clears way for the books to be clean for 2026 when players like Cross wants to sign, or possibly sign Spoon to a contract before his rookie option is up. Brandon Aiyuk negotiated at deal well before his rookie contract was up.

Here are the worst options:

3) We cut him to save cap money, and this would be stupid as we take the cap hit and get nothing in return, yet alone it is still something the Hawks could do. Highly unlikely.

4) We do nothing and let him play his last year out on the roster, and then he becomes an UFA next season and can sign anywhere. We get one more year with him, and he would probably be like Earl Thomas, and play disgruntled as he has no money going forward guaranteed.

5) We apply the franchise tag on him, but this is usually the death nail in a relationship between a player and organization. We are basically telling a player we know you have value and talent, but we aren't willing to pay you what you feel you are worth, but we don't want to share you with the rest of the league. So again if go this route, the relationship will be destroyed.

I would hope an extension can be worked out, but if he feels he is worth the $100Mil + guaranteed group, then I believe a trade would make more sense and we build our team elsewhere.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:44 pm

I mentioned Aiyuk and that’s probably where his value lies. If you saw my earlier post I showed how he got a $120M contract, but the real cost is much less. His 3 year Cap hits are beginning in 2024 $5.7, $11.2, and $16.2 with an out of $9.2 dead cap in 2027 according to Spotrac.

The other problem with trading DK is we would now need 2 WRs as Lockett will most likely be cut and we don’t really know yet if JSN is a true #1. This in a moderately weak WR draft class.

So I think it’s unlikely that he’s traded this year and far more likely he’s extended to a new deal that lowers the Cap hit instead.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby Spohawk5092 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:09 pm

curmudgeon wrote:The Los Angeles Rams will win the Super Bowl…….

oh?
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:22 pm

NorthHawk wrote:I mentioned Aiyuk and that’s probably where his value lies. If you saw my earlier post I showed how he got a $120M contract, but the real cost is much less. His 3 year Cap hits are beginning in 2024 $5.7, $11.2, and $16.2 with an out of $9.2 dead cap in 2027 according to Spotrac.

The other problem with trading DK is we would now need 2 WRs as Lockett will most likely be cut and we don’t really know yet if JSN is a true #1. This in a moderately weak WR draft class.

So I think it’s unlikely that he’s traded this year and far more likely he’s extended to a new deal that lowers the Cap hit instead.


You are missing the element of what if they can not reach an agreement? You can't force a player to sign an extension, and there is a real possibility they can not reach an agreement. I am not saying he will be traded vs being signed to extension, all I am saying is those two elements are the most likely scenarios for DK this offseason.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:48 pm

So you think they will trade him because they MIGHT not be able to re-sign him?
Teams don’t do that very often or ever before trying to come to an agreement.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:20 pm

NorthHawk wrote:So you think they will trade him because they MIGHT not be able to re-sign him?
Teams don’t do that very often or ever before trying to come to an agreement.


There was a scenario almost exactly like what 4XPIPS is talking about that happened with the Jets and Jamal Adams. The Jets knew that he wouldn't sign an extension with them, so they found a sucker to trade him to. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen with Metcalf, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:32 pm

Have there been any indications that DK or his agent are being a problem for re-signing? If there have been, I'm quite out of the loop.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:33 pm

NorthHawk wrote:So you think they will trade him because they MIGHT not be able to re-sign him?
Teams don’t do that very often or ever before trying to come to an agreement.


What I think isn't really important. My personal perspective is that something has to be done this offseason and it's either an extension, or trade. I would not be shocked with either scenarios. Would I prefer them to work out a deal with DK? Yes. I reacting your statement of "DK won't be traded"... to "it's unlikely" which I am just offering my perspective.

Think back to the Frank Clark situation, granted we used the non-exclusive franchise designation on him at that time(fancy for franchise tag), because we couldn't work out a long term deal with him. It has been noted that Frank Clark wanted to stay, and the Hawks wanted to keep him but they couldn't work out a contract deal. After trying to work out a deal in the offseason, they applied the Franchise Tag. Then a deal with the Chiefs emerged, and we ended up with a 1st and a 2nd round draft picks.

So yes I can see a possible scenario where they can not reach an agreement.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:47 pm

curmudgeon wrote:The Los Angeles Rams will win the Super Bowl…….

Spohawk5092 wrote:oh?


My God! Saquon is a beast. So much for this vaunted Rams defense. They got ran the F*ck over!
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Postby Aseahawkfan » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:52 pm

4XPIPS wrote:My God! Saquon is a beast. So much for this vaunted Rams defense. They got ran the F*ck over!


Were they vaunted? I never heard much about the Rams defense after losing Donald.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:26 pm

NorthHawk wrote:Have there been any indications that DK or his agent are being a problem for re-signing? If there have been, I'm quite out of the loop.


As I recall, there were some rumors that his agent wanted a new deal, possibly a market setting contract, but they ended up settling for a restructure and adding a few voidable years onto his contract.

We'll see how it goes, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he holds out this spring.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby River Dog » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:28 pm

curmudgeon wrote:The Los Angeles Rams will win the Super Bowl…….

Spohawk5092 wrote:oh?


4XPIPS wrote:My God! Saquon is a beast. So much for this vaunted Rams defense. They got ran the F*ck over!


I'm not trying to discount what he achieved today, but Barkley is the type of back that excels in those types of field conditions. It was the same with all those quarterback sacks. It's pretty hard to elude a pass rush dancing around in all that slop.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby 4XPIPS » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:41 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:
Were they vaunted? I never heard much about the Rams defense after losing Donald.


The narrative after they beat the Vikings is there defense was dominating and that it was becoming the strength of their team.
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Re: Seahawk Changes?

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:49 am

As I recall, there were some rumors that his agent wanted a new deal, possibly a market setting contract, but they ended up settling for a restructure and adding a few voidable years onto his contract.

We'll see how it goes, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he holds out this spring.


It puts them in a tough position as they already have a weak spot on the OL and there's a possibility that Geno walks (there's talk that he wants in the $45M range) if he doesn't get what he wants and now DK?
They may have put themselves in a jam and it's way too much to fill in one off season and would take an Offense that was be productive at times and make it worse.
I can see JS letting Geno go and getting another QB like Darnold or someone else but not both.
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