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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Hawktawk » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:22 am

Hawktawk wrote:I think we are in a situation where Lockett is aging and getting beat up . He dropped a couple balls including a TD . He’s started to slide rather than face any contact including sliding a yard short on third down . Love Lockett but I think his days are numbered . This pick makes more sense the more I think about it . Recievers may be a dime a dozen . Elite ones aren’t .


How many 'elite' wide receivers did we have during our LOB years?

I would have rather seen us go after one of the top defensive players on the board at the time, like Mazi Smith of Michigan or Nolan Smith of Georgia. But it is what it is. At least they took one of the best, so I'm not totally bummed, just disappointed.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Will Levis. Of the teams picking ahead of us, the Steelers, Cards, and Colts are almost certainly not going to take him. The Lions might, but the team that has the greatest need are our division rival Rams. Mathew Stafford's days are numbered, they don't have another QB on their roster, and it will be their first pick of the draft. I'd love to see us swing a deal to move up a slot and snatch him from under their noses.[/quote]

I stunk it up predicting both Levis and hooker first round . Levis is a weird one falling all the way out . If Seattle passes him by at 37 they are gonna roll with Lock and Geno unless they take Hooker or something . I’m uneasy with Levis, looks like lots of GMs are . Felt kinda bad watching him squirm . He looked borderline psycho at the end . Good point about elite wideouts our Super Bowl year but Baldwin and Tate weren’t bad .

Bring on day 2. I don’t care
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:24 am

govandals wrote:I went to bed last night very irritated, woke up feeling the same, like PCJS completely botched the 1st round. Now that I've had some time to process the first 2 picks, I'm feeling better about it. Witherspoon seems like the real deal, he and Woolen will be lots of fun for years to come.
Still not crazy about the Njigba pick, but he may grow into Lockett's replacement. I get an Amari Cooper vibe from him. not physically though, just the smoothness in his game.
Kinda feel like they've backed themselves into a corner with the Dline, even though there are lots of 2nd/3rd guys that make sense. Just as long as they don't reach for one.
I'd still like Levis at 37, maybe that's where value meets need, but if they already passed on him twice, I doubt they'll take him now. I bet the Rams will love him at the pick before us although Joey Porter makes sense for them too.
I would even be ok with Hendon Hooker at 37 right now.
Very excited to tonight!


I'll bet anyone in here a beer that Joey Porter Jr. goes to the Steelers with the first pick in the 2nd round. It just makes too much sense. He's the best player available, fits a need for them, and it would be great PR to have literally one of their favorite sons suit up in black and gold.

I'm kinda like you with regards to Njigba. The second the selection was off, I closed my tablet and went to the bathroom to throw up. But later this morning after I had a chance to sleep on it, I noted that he was the best WR on the board and realized how many more selections we have left. And like I said, I have this near phobic reaction to any WR selected with a 1st round pick.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby jshawaii22 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:28 am

All the haters because we didn't take Carter or Tyree or "person X" in round 1. Seems some of the national media thinks we hit a home run. NFL.com had us as only one of two teams with an "A+" rating along with Philly.

We took two players, both at the top of the list in their position rankings, maybe not your view of 'need' but they were both positions of need (although defensive line and center will need to be taken care of today) --

My opinion on Carter is that Philly will do a lot better with their OLDER, experienced defensive players already on their roster in keeping Carter pointing forward. We don't have that after we let all the vets go in FA this year.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Agent 86 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:34 am

Story this morning by Athletic Seahawks beat writer Michael Shawn Dugar.....

Seahawks go for premium talent over positional need during a ceiling-raising Round 1

By Michael-Shawn Dugar
Apr 27, 2023

RENTON, Wash. — These aren’t luxury picks. They’re ceiling-raisers.

That’s the best way to look at Seattle’s two first-round picks in the 2023 NFL Draft. Yes, Seattle has a budding star at cornerback in Tariq Woolen, a 2022 fifth-round pick who finished second in Defensive Rookie of the Year voting, earned a Pro Bowl nod and received All-Pro votes. Michael Jackson, starting opposite Woolen, had a strong season as a first-year starter. Tre Brown is waiting in the wings.

But by adding Devon Witherspoon, which Seattle did with the No. 5 pick on Thursday night, the Seahawks changed the overall outlook of the cornerback. The combination of Woolen and Jackson has the potential to be good. Maybe even very good. With Witherspoon’s speed, patience, route recognition and ball skills, the pairing he and Woolen could produce has the potential to be great.

“Devon Witherspoon, he’s a rare player,” coach Pete Carroll said in a post-Round 1 news conference at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. “We haven’t seen a guy like this. We have not drafted corners high just because we haven’t come across a guy of this makeup. It’s his athletic ability, it’s his speed, it’s his playmaking, it’s his mentality.”

Carroll gave an interesting player comparison when talking up Witherspoon’s instincts: former USC star safety Troy Polamalu.

“Troy Polamalu was a guy that had an extraordinary way about the way he played the game,” Carroll said. “I saw this connection between what Devon does and how he looks at the game and how he approaches it. It just knocked me out.”

Similar logic applies to Seattle selecting receiver Jaxon Smith-Njigba with the No. 20 pick. Yes, Seattle has two stars in DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. Since 2019, Lockett is 10th among receivers in yards; Metcalf is 13th. They’re both top-five in touchdown catches. Metcalf is only 25. Lockett turns 31 in September.

But as the last four years have illustrated, merely having Lockett and Metcalf isn’t enough. That’s why the Seahawks acquired Josh Gordon in 2019. It’s why they signed Phillip Dorsett as a free agent in 2020. It’s why they drafted Freddie Swain in the sixth round of the 2020 draft, Dee Eskridge in the second round of the 2021 draft and Bo Melton and Dareke Young in the seventh round of the 2022 draft. On top of signing Marquise Goodwin last March.

Seattle plays with three receivers on the field more than 50 percent of the time. That has held true with each of the last three offensive coordinators Carroll has hired. A third receiving threat is essentially a starting position. Eskridge was supposed to satisfy that need. Young showed some flashes last season, but he didn’t catch a ball until Week 18.

General manager John Schneider watched Smith-Njigba put up 347 receiving yards in the Rose Bowl following the 2021 season and knew he’d be a top-10 pick when draft-eligible. The hamstring injury he suffered early in the 2022 season caused him to slip in the draft — right into the lap of the Seahawks, who feel he immediately makes the receiver room more dynamic than ever.

“This guy can play inside in the slot, right now,” Carroll said. “He’s got those kinds of skills. He’s shown us everything we need to see. We’ll still use the flexibility because we love Tyler in there as well. We do move our guys, but he really has a chance to be a big factor right there.

“That’s what we were in pursuit of in the draft. That’s why we’re so excited to have gotten him. We thought he was the best guy in the draft to fill that role.”

The Seahawks had more pressing needs entering the draft. They’re currently rostering just three interior defensive linemen and only two healthy inside linebackers with starting experience, neither of whom are under contract beyond this season. All three of their starting interior offensive linemen are on one-year contracts. Within those three position groups, Bobby Wagner is the only Pro Bowl-caliber player. There are fair arguments to be made that Seattle should have gone any number of different directions with their first two selections.

Seattle instead chose to address two premium position groups over those other spots. It’s basically the decision to potentially go from good to elite at corner and receiver rather than possibly go from subpar to adequate in other areas such as defensive line and linebacker. Both paths make sense for Seattle based on the current makeup of the roster. Time will tell whether Carroll and Schneider made the correct call.

For now, they undoubtedly have two talented prospects, arguably the best at their respective positions. Witherspoon was the No. 2 cornerback on The Athletic’s Dane Brugler’s big board. Smith-Njigba was Brugler’s top-ranked receiver.

“Devon, arguably one of the most physical players in the draft, regardless of position,” Schneider said. “Jaxon, big-time production and arguably the best receiver in this draft class. Well, in our opinion, he was the best.”

Quarterbacks Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud were drafted by the Panthers and Texans, respectively, with the top two picks. Then Houston traded back into the top three and swapped spots with Arizona to select edge rusher Will Anderson Jr. The Colts then drafted quarterback Anthony Richardson. Schneider said he wasn’t surprised at how the first four picks went and he didn’t come close to trading back.

“We had two players we definitely weren’t going to leave for,” Schneider said. “Devon was one of them.”

Carroll didn’t name-drop Polamalu lightly. The comparison just speaks to how blown away he was by Witherspoon’s instincts on tape, and how the 22-year-old cornerback was able to break down some of the decisions he made in a one-on-one meeting with Carroll at the VMAC.

On tape, he saw the ball skills of a player who had 26 passes defensed over his last two seasons at Illinois. Witherspoon also had 10.5 tackles for loss in his last 22 starts. He took chances and was able to read and react in ways that reminded Carroll of strong safety Jamal Adams.

“We had a tremendous visit,” Carroll said. “Talking about really specific stuff that had to do with the choices he was making. I was trying to figure it out, where’s it coming from? After we were done, I was hitting him, man. I was getting after him in meeting to challenge him and to get to what he was really seeing and feeling. I came out of there thinking, ‘This is one of those guys. A special, special guy.’”

Smith-Njigba played the 2021 season next to star teammates Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson, so Seattle imagines he’ll have no problem complementing Metcalf and Lockett. Schneider didn’t get to see Smith-Njigba play live prior to the pre-draft process, but he went through position drills at the scouting combine and again at his pro day where both Schneider and Carroll were in attendance. That’s also where Smith-Njigba ran the 40-yard dash, another important piece of the evaluation because teams hadn’t seen him much since that Rose Bowl performance.

Smith-Njigba is also regarded as the best route runner in this draft class, a sentiment Schneider affirmed Thursday night.

“He’s got a lot of power in his lower body,” Schneider said. “Ton of body control. Elite hands. Really good eyes. He’s going to be a fun guy.”

Seattle used 12 personnel (two receivers, two tight ends) and 13 personnel (one receiver, three tight ends) at the second-highest rates in the league last year, according to TruMedia. Those numbers represent room for growth in 11 personnel and in the depth of the tight end room. Carroll said Thursday that drafting Smith-Njigba isn’t about increasing the 11 personnel rate as much as it’s about having more success in that grouping, particularly when it’s time to move the sticks. When teams can bracket Metcalf and rotate coverage toward Lockett, someone must be able to uncover and get a first down or find the end zone. With his lower-body power and suddenness, Smith-Njigba should be the answer Seattle has been looking for.

“We’ve got two guys who we love the way they play in Tyler and DK,” Carroll said. “We needed another guy to fit in with them.”

Carroll later added, “It’s not to try to get to three receivers (more) — we want our three-receiver play to be better. We need to be better on third down.”

Schneider and Carroll twice passed on drafting interior defensive linemen. Jalen Carter went to Eagles with No. 9 pick. Mazi Smith went No. 26 overall to the Cowboys, and Bryan Bresee went to the Saints at pick No. 29. Schneider said it wasn’t hard to take a corner and a receiver instead of addressing the team’s thinnest position group. But with picks No. 37, 52 and 89 on Friday, Seattle is in position address the trenches.

“We had an order set up and we were ready to rip,” Schneider said of bypassing the defensive line prospects. “There’s things that are pretty tempting but you gotta stay true to what you’re doing. That’s what we did.”

So, was this a matter of talent being more urgent than pushing a player up the board to fill a specific need?

“Absolutely,” Schneider said. “We recognize we need help on the defensive line.”
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:36 am

Hawktawk wrote:I stunk it up predicting both Levis and hooker first round . Levis is a weird one falling all the way out . If Seattle passes him by at 37 they are gonna roll with Lock and Geno unless they take Hooker or something . I’m uneasy with Levis, looks like lots of GMs are . Felt kinda bad watching him squirm . He looked borderline psycho at the end . Good point about elite wideouts our Super Bowl year but Baldwin and Tate weren’t bad .

Bring on day 2. I don’t care


You're not the only one that stunk it up. With last year being a bit of an anomaly, Pete and John are the hardest coach/GM to predict.

Unless someone trades up, the Lions might end up taking Levis. But like us, they had multiple opportunities to take him in the 1st but passed. If they pass this time, I'd love to see us trade up with the Colts to get him and keep him away from the Rams. Moving up just a couple spots in the 2nd shouldn't be too expensive.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby MackStrongIsMyHero » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:28 am

RiverDog wrote:You're not the only one that stunk it up. With last year being a bit of an anomaly, Pete and John are the hardest coach/GM to predict.

Unless someone trades up, the Lions might end up taking Levis. But like us, they had multiple opportunities to take him in the 1st but passed. If they pass this time, I'd love to see us trade up with the Colts to get him and keep him away from the Rams. Moving up just a couple spots in the 2nd shouldn't be too expensive.


I'm torn. Getting Levis late and stashing him for a year is tempting. On the other hand, I want that IOL and NT possibly even Mayer at TE, and it will take the next three picks to grab immediate contributors. Enjoying this all the same.

*Edit: By late I mean him dropping out the first.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:52 am

RiverDog wrote:You're not the only one that stunk it up. With last year being a bit of an anomaly, Pete and John are the hardest coach/GM to predict.

Unless someone trades up, the Lions might end up taking Levis. But like us, they had multiple opportunities to take him in the 1st but passed. If they pass this time, I'd love to see us trade up with the Colts to get him and keep him away from the Rams. Moving up just a couple spots in the 2nd shouldn't be too expensive.


MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:I'm torn. Getting Levis late and stashing him for a year is tempting. On the other hand, I want that IOL and NT possibly even Mayer at TE, and it will take the next three picks to grab immediate contributors. Enjoying this all the same.

*Edit: By late I mean him dropping out the first.


One of my big motivations for taking Levis tonight is keeping him from the Rams. If he turns out to be a keeper, we'll be kicking ourselves in the butt for the next 10 years for not trading up and grabbing him. Plus, Levis has a high ceiling and is worth every bit of that 2nd round pick.

Keep in mind that we have 10 draft picks this year, the most we've had in recent memory. We can afford to take a gamble or two.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby MackStrongIsMyHero » Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:07 pm

That's a fair position. I'm wanting Ika and Avila in the 2nd now, though it will be hard for me to be upset if they grab Levis.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Oly » Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:48 pm

Agent 86 wrote:Carroll later added, “It’s not to try to get to three receivers (more) — we want our three-receiver play to be better. We need to be better on third down.”


This might take me from "meh" on JSN to "pretty good." How many Hawk fans' #1 complaint over the last few years--or at least one of the top complaints--was the 3rd down conversion rate? I'm in that group. How many times did we see games where teams schemed for DK and Lockett and held them to meager production, only for us all to bemoan the lack of a dynamic TE or slot receiver? That happened a lot, and clearly the brain trust saw the same thing. Getting a slot-specific prospect is exactly what the offense has needed to open up the middle of the field and move the chains even when the defense knows that a pass is coming. It seems like, on clear passing downs like 3rd-and-medium/long, the Hawks have been stuck at abysmal conversation rates for years. My preference would have been for a Kelce-like TE and an OC that knew how to use that weapon, but that's apparently a really hard thing to do. So, the next best option is to get a slot WR who specializes in working the middle of the field and creating separation out of nothing. If JSN can be that guy, then this pick makes waaaaaaaaaay more sense than I realized at first. But we'll see how it looks on Sundays.

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Random thought heading into Day 2. This is an honest question and I'm not making an argument, but does the combination of (1) lack of team control over the 5th year for 2nd rounders, and (2) the plan for any QB to sit for a year anyway, make drafting either Levis or Hooker less likely? It seems like the combination that's needed for them to succeed is pretty low. Geno has to regress enough that the Hawks want to move on and/or the new guy needs to improve enough (despite previous injuries) that they can unseat Geno, and it needs to happen before Year 4 of the rookie deal because would the Hawks really want to give a guy a huge 2nd contract who only flashed for one year as the starter? I dunno, just food for thought.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:45 pm

Random thought heading into Day 2. This is an honest question and I'm not making an argument, but does the combination of (1) lack of team control over the 5th year for 2nd rounders, and (2) the plan for any QB to sit for a year anyway, make drafting either Levis or Hooker less likely? It seems like the combination that's needed for them to succeed is pretty low. Geno has to regress enough that the Hawks want to move on and/or the new guy needs to improve enough (despite previous injuries) that they can unseat Geno, and it needs to happen before Year 4 of the rookie deal because would the Hawks really want to give a guy a huge 2nd contract who only flashed for one year as the starter? I dunno, just food for thought


If they keep to the same draft philosophy then it wouldn’t matter as long as the player is at or near the top of their board.
However, I would suspect that there might be more pressure to play earlier to get a larger volume of playing information before deciding to cough up the big bucks a QB receives. That means one less year on a low cost rookie contract.
So, we really don’t know at the end of all that because we don’t know how they weigh all the factors.

With both Hooker and Levis they are also older and that might be a consideration as well. Apparently some teams view older QBs as less likely or harder to be molded into NFL players than real young ones.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby MackStrongIsMyHero » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Hooker and Levi’s would be good value but I’m thinking the Seahawks aren’t getting them. OL, DL, and LB are likely what’s coming tonight. Maybe Mayer at TE.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Hawktawk » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:05 pm

Hawktawk wrote:I stunk it up predicting both Levis and hooker first round . Levis is a weird one falling all the way out . If Seattle passes him by at 37 they are gonna roll with Lock and Geno unless they take Hooker or something . I’m uneasy with Levis, looks like lots of GMs are . Felt kinda bad watching him squirm . He looked borderline psycho at the end . Good point about elite wideouts our Super Bowl year but Baldwin and Tate weren’t bad .

Bring on day 2. I don’t care


You're not the only one that stunk it up. With last year being a bit of an anomaly, Pete and John are the hardest coach/GM to predict.

Unless someone trades up, the Lions might end up taking Levis. But like us, they had multiple opportunities to take him in the 1st but passed. If they pass this time, I'd love to see us trade up with the Colts to get him and keep him away from the Rams. Moving up just a couple spots in the 2nd shouldn't be too expensive.[/quote]

Jarred Goff was quietly one of the hottest QBs in the league down the stretch. Beat wierd beard in GB. He’s been to a Super Bowl although didn’t play well . Kind of like Geno maybe not elite but a step below .

But I’m not taking Levis over Goff . If Seattle takes him great . I think we better start building front 7 and interior line .
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:18 pm

Steelers just gave a nod to their fan base.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:23 pm

Knew this was Levis' spot when the Titans traded up.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:43 pm

I like we're addressing edge rushing, now lets look inside!
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:44 pm

Derrick Hall, another typical Pete pick in the spirit of Jordy Brooks and Darrell Taylor. Hope this guy works out.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby jshawaii22 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:44 pm

And with the LAST of the Russell Wilson gifts, we pick Auburn DE/Edge Derick Hall.
That pick should make the 'why didn't we draft an edge' at least somewhat happy. SEC 1st string. Plays standing up and in the 3 point stance.
Not much else at this point, but now we need the Center / Guard with the 20th.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:45 pm

I like the pick. This guy won't fail unless he don't have the talent or gets injured. Motor always running, aggression, and chip on the shoulder from birth.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:46 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:And with the LAST of the Russell Wilson gifts, we pick Auburn DE/Edge Derick Hall.
That pick should make the 'why didn't we draft an edge' at least somewhat happy. SEC 1st string. Plays standing up and in the 3 point stance.
Not much else at this point, but now we need the Center / Guard with the 20th.


I'm hoping that one of the two Big 10 centers makes it to #52.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:48 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:I like the pick. This guy won't fail unless he don't have the talent or gets injured. Motor always running, aggression, and chip on the shoulder from birth.


One of the knocks on him is that he struggled against quality offensive tackles, so we'll see.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby govandals » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:02 pm

I like the Derek Hall pick. Certainly seeing a pattern with these picks of gritty, tough, alpha dog leader types.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:05 pm

RiverDog wrote:One of the knocks on him is that he struggled against quality offensive tackles, so we'll see.


He struggled against quality offensive tackles? You mean like every single edge rusher in football? You're supposed to struggle against quality offensive tackles. You ain't a quality offensive tackle if you aren't making even the best guys struggle.

This is part of the move to shore up personnel for the 3-4. This guys looks like an ideal 3-4 linebacker.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby jshawaii22 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:21 pm

so now we have 3 x 2nd round LB/Edge (Mafe, Taylor and now add Derek Hall) Going to be a crowded room. Lets hope at least ONE can break out this year.

With 1 pick ahead of us, we are now guaranteed JM Schmitz or O'Cyrus, or how about Hooker?
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:38 pm

No fat boys yet. Damn.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Stream Hawk » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:41 pm

All glamour pick draft. I mean a rb in 2nd rd?! Absolutely nothing in oline or dline, except small edge rusher Hall.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:48 pm

Again, I can't complain about the player but I'm a bit baffled that we're ignoring interior linemen on both sides of the ball!
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:50 pm

I'm also a bit suprized at no trades yet.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:53 pm

Damn, there goes the center I wanted
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:08 pm

Pete's back to his old tricks, ignoring the offensive line.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:13 pm

The RB pick is the first pick I don't like. Just seemed like quality players at more needed positions were available as good or better than that RB.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:20 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:The RB pick is the first pick I don't like. Just seemed like quality players at more needed positions were available as good or better than that RB.


Odds are that he'll end up just like Carson and Penny.

It's such an injury prone position and that they typically aren't 3 down players, I just hate spending high draft picks on them.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby govandals » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:44 pm

I like the Charbonnet pick. Let's not forget we have Walker and Dallas and that's it. Even with Charbonnet we still need one more RB. Please, no more signing RB's off the streets to finish a season like in the past.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:58 pm

I want a fat boy in the third. Guard, Center, or DT.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby RiverDog » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:10 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:I want a fat boy in the third. Guard, Center, or DT.


I wanted a fat boy in the 2nd.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:11 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:I want a fat boy in the third. Guard, Center, or DT.

Hear hear!
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:17 pm

Well we finally traded back.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:57 pm

Broderick Martin was a homeboy out of Western Kentucky I had on my board, I hope whoever we get in the early 4th is as good.
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby obiken » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:09 pm

RiverDog wrote:Pete's back to his old tricks, ignoring the offensive line.
Oh dont forget the DT position. River, how many good DT's has Pete drafted? Yeah, that would be NONE! A RB really? This dear Brutus, is the stupidest pick of all!
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby obiken » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:29 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:Knew this was Levis' spot when the Titans traded up.


Can someone please tell me why Levis was a better prospect than Hooker??
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Re: Next up: the draft

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:37 pm

A year younger and has played in a pro offense with similar QB responsibilities to what he’ll see in the NFL.
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