MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35871548/jalen-carter-pleads-no-contest-charges-reckless-driving-racing
Yes, it was his attorney who said that's how it went down. I can't say with any certainty who told him he could leave. I'm guessing that was considered when they handed down the punishment. I don't know if it was not a LEO that told him he could leave, would Carter have received a worse punishment?
MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35871548/jalen-carter-pleads-no-contest-charges-reckless-driving-racing
Yes, it was his attorney who said that's how it went down. I can't say with any certainty who told him he could leave. I'm guessing that was considered when they handed down the punishment. I don't know if it was not a LEO that told him he could leave, would Carter have received a worse punishment?
jshawaii22 wrote:He was never charged with "leaving the scene of an accident". Why is everyone fixating on this?
jshawaii22 wrote:He was never charged with "leaving the scene of an accident". Why is everyone fixating on this?
Hawktawk wrote:Pretty cocksure attitude. Have you seen dead teammates? Horrific drunken crash? He ran towards them initially, his passenger was the one who called 911. Hes not a gd soldier leaving a man behind. I dont give a rip about it. You're not the judge and the judge doesn't care abut it. His sentence is pretty vindicating imo. Hed be back to 5 without being a bloated wheezing pig. I bet Hurrt could whip him into shapethey could go to weight watchers together.
c_hawkbob wrote:I agree wit Tawk, his deplorable pro day is a much worse issue now than his misdemeanor traffic violations.
I-5 wrote:Does the Drew Lock signing have any bearing on whether the Seahawks will take a QB in the draft? Maybe they'll wait til the later rounds to take one is what I'm thinking.
I-5 wrote:Does the Drew Lock signing have any bearing on whether the Seahawks will take a QB in the draft? Maybe they'll wait til the later rounds to take one is what I'm thinking.
I-5 wrote:Does the Drew Lock signing have any bearing on whether the Seahawks will take a QB in the draft? Maybe they'll wait til the later rounds to take one is what I'm thinking.
I-5 wrote:Does the Drew Lock signing have any bearing on whether the Seahawks will take a QB in the draft? Maybe they'll wait til the later rounds to take one is what I'm thinking.
NorthHawk wrote:These last two drafts have seen a big change in philosophy. It seems to be all about adding talent since they let so much slip away the previous 7 years or thereabouts.
Last year was a real good start, but I wonder if we should expect another 4 starters from this draft or not. I guess that would be too much to ask, but the base level of talent should increase in any case.
As well, we aren't sitting on the sidelines during FA and signing what at this point look like solid starters and not just depth players. It's a welcome change.
Hawktawk wrote:Ok North you’re a cap and draft guy . I have an honest question. Did existing contracts like Russ and other highly paid stars affect what Seattle could do in some of those years?
Yes there have been some bad trades , unlucky injuries . But how much of our basement shopping for FAs etc was possibly affected by payroll and existing roster commitment? We know winning a lot meant late picks for years too . And flat out misses besides .
Was this stretch of management bad in your opinion or were there any other factors ?
mykc14 wrote:The 2020 off-season the Hawks had the salary cap space to make some major moves and a team that potentially could have made a run at the SB. They did a terrible job in Free-Agency as you can see by the list below, but the worst part was that those failures led to the panic move of trading for Jamal Adams and the disaster of a contract that still haunts us today. That was the off-season that I lost faith in PC/JS for the first time. They had over 50 mil in cap space and had put themselves in a great position to sign some really good players but instead they signed these guys:
Greg Olsen 7 mil
Cedric Ogbuechi 3.3 mil
Brandon Shell 5.5 mil
BJ Finney 5.5 mil
Bruce Irvin 5.5 mil
Jarren Reed 12 mil
Phillip Dorsett 1 mil
Benson Mayowa 3 mil
Mike Iupati 2 mil
That's almost 50 million in cap space that they spent on guys who mostly had been career backups. They filled out their roster with these guys and hoped that they would have career years.
There were good players available to, especially on the defensive side of the ball...
Rober Quinn signed for 14 mil/year
DJ Reader 13 mil/year
Javon Hargrove 13 mil/y
Clowney 13 mil/year
NorthHawk wrote:The changes have been more than talent acquisition, they’ve abandoned the Peteball Offense and dumped the 4-3 Under scheme Pete used for his entire tenure here. That’s a massive change of thought.
NorthHawk wrote:The changes have been more than talent acquisition, they’ve abandoned the Peteball Offense and dumped the 4-3 Under scheme Pete used for his entire tenure here. That’s a massive change of thought.
Hawktawk wrote:Ok North you’re a cap and draft guy . I have an honest question. Did existing contracts like Russ and other highly paid stars affect what Seattle could do in some of those years?
Yes there have been some bad trades , unlucky injuries . But how much of our basement shopping for FAs etc was possibly affected by payroll and existing roster commitment? We know winning a lot meant late picks for years too . And flat out misses besides .
Was this stretch of management bad in your opinion or were there any other factors ?
c_hawkbob wrote:Well we released Al Woods, our anchor in the middle of our D line. Maybe making room for Carter?
govandals wrote:I think it's a moot point to even discuss Jalen Carter. The Seahawks are not drafting him. On one of Rob Staton's live streams he says there are even MORE red flags with Carter that teams are aware of and the media is not. He won't state his sources, but I know he talks to Jim Nagy and Tony Pauline, so possibly got it from them. it's rare for Staton to say a thing like that. He is straight shooter in my book and not a rumormonger type.
c_hawkbob wrote:Well we released Al Woods, our anchor in the middle of our D line. Maybe making room for Carter?
HawkSis wrote:Jalen Carter scares the hell out of me. He’s obviously VERY talented, so the temptation to take him is there. The recent McDowell fiasco (which led to us trading a 2nd for Sheldon Richardson) means we spent two high picks on half a player, and it seems our FO is steering clear of players w/character issues. I certainly don’t profess to know what’s going on with the accident and his subsequent weight gain/inability to finish his pro-day…. Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt on all of that (he just has a youthful lead-foot and the pressure of the scrutiny effed with him (or whatever) on his pro-day, his in-season conditioning (or lack thereof) and seeming lack of a work ethic make him a low character/high risk dude, which (again) PCJS say they are out on. But damn, he’s good and could be just what we need. I’m glad I don’t have to make that call. Laramy (sp??) Tunsil slipped in the draft for character issues and just signed a massive deal because he’s that good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’d have to say I’m out on JC in the first round.
HawkSis wrote:I’m all for beefing up the D-line at 5 and maybe even at 20, though center works for me too in the latter. I would not be surprised if PCJS draft a QB, slide down a few spots and nab Hendon +. Not much will surprise me. I’m all in on Will Anderson (I know….. duh, right?), and realize he’s not likely to be there at 5. I believe in the brain trust and can’t wait to watch.
HawkSis wrote:Jalen Carter scares the hell out of me. He’s obviously VERY talented, so the temptation to take him is there. The recent McDowell fiasco (which led to us trading a 2nd for Sheldon Richardson) means we spent two high picks on half a player, and it seems our FO is steering clear of players w/character issues. I certainly don’t profess to know what’s going on with the accident and his subsequent weight gain/inability to finish his pro-day…. Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt on all of that (he just has a youthful lead-foot and the pressure of the scrutiny effed with him (or whatever) on his pro-day, his in-season conditioning (or lack thereof) and seeming lack of a work ethic make him a low character/high risk dude, which (again) PCJS say they are out on. But damn, he’s good and could be just what we need. I’m glad I don’t have to make that call. Laramy (sp??) Tunsil slipped in the draft for character issues and just signed a massive deal because he’s that good. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’d have to say I’m out on JC in the first round.
I’m all for beefing up the D-line at 5 and maybe even at 20, though center works for me too in the latter. I would not be surprised if PCJS draft a QB, slide down a few spots and nab Hendon +. Not much will surprise me. I’m all in on Will Anderson (I know….. duh, right?), and realize he’s not likely to be there at 5. I believe in the brain trust and can’t wait to watch.
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