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[RiverDog]

Cops do lie . More than you think . Some are racist . More than many think . Some are obnoxious power tripping abusers of peoples rights . Been there done it and seen it on tv many times . Most are fine but like a ref it only takes one to change the game .


It may not apply to this situation at all . Didn’t say it did . Said it might .

The release of the alleged interaction by the police against a man who deserved to be presumed innocent was highly inappropriate and potentially prejudicial to any jury .

I know one guy who was fascinated by his alleged medical physical diagnosis of a cop who read him his rights and started chatting him up right after to try to get him to say something to further incriminate himself which was allegedly wildly successful.

If you’re ever arrested STFU. The cop isn’t your buddy . He’s trying to bury you deeper than you did yourself . Be silent .

Time will tell what happens with Geno . I highly doubt the league would suspend him for a 1-A first offense regardless of his actions with police .
Charges such as resisting arrest don’t require proof of intoxication and I’ve not heard he was charged with it . Looking around the league at some of the women beating pos like dude from 9ers who sacked Geno twice and forced the fumble that ended the game after too many steroids I don’t see Geno suspended at all . I’m pretty sure Sherman signed with Tampa shortly after his far worse than Geno actions that got a slap on the wrist from law enforcement .


I’m going with Geno is getting an alcohol interlock device , a fine , a day in jail and on with his life and buddy don’t do it again. Let’s see if woman beating roid rager plays this weekend . If he does Geno should be fine .

It's true, some cops do lie. But we're not just talking about one cop, or even two. When there's a DUI arrest, there's half a dozen of them involved. They do so to get witnesses, so that it's not just one person's word against another. You're asking us to believe in another one of your conspiracy theories.

A bad cop isn't going to be able to change the evidence, the time and speed of the car, the blood sample, video if it exists, and nowadays, video is present in nearly all arrests. I doubt very seriously that race was a factor. You're grasping for straws, playing the race card where there is no evidence.

And as far as the Personal Conduct Policy goes, there's more levels of discipline besides suspension. There's also fines and community service that can be administered. Besides, there's more than just the DUI that could be taken into account by the league. Smith's behavior, including his having to be subdued to take the blood test, his verbal abuse of the cops, etc, are all factors that can be taken into consideration.

[Hawktawk]

You’re not picking up what im putting down . I said MIGHT NOT be a factor in this case and most cops are fine . Not a conspiracy theory .

As for multiple cops lying you must have missed serpico . And the 5 cops who beat a hand cuffed young man to death who were all black . That is just brutality . Out of control policing . I have zero trust in police after my experience . A DUI is not an excuse for a cop to lie , physically injure the suspect who in person is as pleasant and polite and honest to a fault . Let’s see what the resolution is .

I’m aware of the league policies but as I said Sherman was playing in Tampa shortly after his far worse episode . In the grand scheme of things I just don’t see a suspension. It’s all I care about . If he did all this convict him and start the process .

I don’t judge Genos actions cause I got popped too along with many millions of Americans and anyone who has ever got behind the wheel with alcohol in their system needs to not judge . You were lucky and you know who you are .

I’ll believe all the stuff about the arrest if they show dash cam footage, police station footage , lapel cams etc . I’d be more critical if that all happened how they say . Ultimately a judge has wide latitude to influence the direction of the case . I can’t imaging the Hawks haven’t done due diligence on this with their own legal people either . If they really are trying to sign him they must not be particularly concerned .

[RiverDog]

You’re not picking up what im putting down . I said MIGHT NOT be a factor in this case and most cops are fine . Not a conspiracy theory .

As for multiple cops lying you must have missed serpico . And the 5 cops who beat a hand cuffed young man to death who were all black . That is just brutality . Out of control policing . I have zero trust in police after my experience . A DUI is not an excuse for a cop to lie , physically injure the suspect who in person is as pleasant and polite and honest to a fault . Let’s see what the resolution is .

Serpico? You mean that 1970's movie starring Al Pacino? Are you serious? You might as well ask me if I've ever seen Barney Miller. That movie is 50 years old, dude!

There's over 600,000 cops and more than 10 million arrests made per year in the USA, and that's not counting traffic violations. In today's information age where everyone has a cell phone with a camera/video available, if policing were "out of control" as you claim, there'd be one helluva lot more incidents of police brutality that get publicized. That's not to say that events such as you're talking about don't ever happen or that we can't do better. It's just that they are very, very rare.

I’m aware of the league policies but as I said Sherman was playing in Tampa shortly after his far worse episode . In the grand scheme of things I just don’t see a suspension. It’s all I care about . If he did all this convict him and start the process .

Did I say that there would be a suspension? What I said was that he likely would have/will face some sort of discipline.

I don’t judge Genos actions cause I got popped too along with many millions of Americans and anyone who has ever got behind the wheel with alcohol in their system needs to not judge . You were lucky and you know who you are .

I’ll believe all the stuff about the arrest if they show dash cam footage, police station footage , lapel cams etc . I’d be more critical if that all happened how they say . Ultimately a judge has wide latitude to influence the direction of the case . I can’t imaging the Hawks haven’t done due diligence on this with their own legal people either . If they really are trying to sign him they must not be particularly concerned .

Geno's asked us to give him the benefit of the doubt, not to judge him from the media reports. I have yet to hear him make a statement, perhaps because this case has yet to be resolved. But when it is, I want to hear his side of the story because what I have heard in the media is very disturbing, and if true, reflects very poorly on his character.

As far as the incident not being a huge concern of the Hawks, I agree, it's not egregious enough to keep them from signing/resigning him.

[Hawktawk]

You heard it in the media because the cops said it to the media . Let’s see the proof . My arresting officer lied 3 times on the stand and the judge told him he did to his face . Not sure why he wasn’t charged with perjury .

I just gotta see the evidence which cameras and microphones don’t lie . Very very rare on police malfeasance is utterly naive . Zero trust without the cam .

Let the chips fall .