RiverDog wrote: In what way? It wasn't statistically and he didn't lead us to the playoffs or a winning record. You don't have a leg to stand on, my friend.
TDs, yards, games played. It was his first year as a starter and Pete got the most out of him compared to his other coaches.
I said it was his best year and it was his best year. You're acting like I said it was some kind of high bar to jump over and it wasn't. But he got the most out of Tarvaris in his career.
One of his best games, for sure. Of course, you don't want to talk about the next playoff game that we lost by two scores to the Bears in large part because Hasselbeck was just 26-46 and our offense was just 3-14 on third down leading to a huge disparity in TOP, something that HT would go absolutely ballistic if that had been Russell.
Hass still threw for 3 Tds and 0 ints. It was still one of his better playoff games. Given the quality of the team around him, a heroic effort on the road where we've never won a playoff game in our team history against a high ranked Bears defense in their house.
It's fan boy when you ignore facts and start using highly subjective and opinionated arguments to support your narrative.
You are the one ignoring the facts. I have clearly shown you dating back to college that Pete gets quality performances out of his QBs getting three of the QBs he developed in college drafted in the top 10. I also showed you how he got Hass's best playoff performance as a QB on an arguably much worse team than Hass had played on prior even though he played for a QB guru like Mike Holmgren. He got the most production out of Tarvaris Jackson any coach had gotten out of him in hi career. He turned an undersized QB taken in the 3rd round into a 9 time Pro Bowl QB who won a Super Bowl and went to another one. Now he's taken a QB tossed on the garbage heap into a QB that might end up with an MVP vote.
So what are the facts I'm missing? You are completely ignoring what Pete did in college. You're ignoring what Pete did with Russ. You're ignoring that Pete got Matt's best playoff performance out of him.
I'd say you're the one ignoring the facts. That is that Pete gets a lot out of players including Qbs.
Your problem seems to be you're thinking I'm saying "Pete's a QB whisperer" and what I'm saying is "Pete's a player whisperer." I don't think many coaches in the league are. I don't think we got lucky with Geno. I think Geno got lucky playing for Pete and being put in a position with two stud receivers, a good TE group, and two rookie tackles playing above what we've seen from rookie tackles playing with a head coach that knows how to put players in a position to get the most out of them.
Pete's been doing this for years, not just this year and not just with Geno. But since his college days and on into this second stint as an NFL head coach.
I agree with you in general. My point is strictly regarding your statement about Pete having a great track record of elevating quarterback's performance. There is nothing factual to support such a claim.
Pete's track record with QBS in college is amazing.
Pete's track record with NFL QBs in his second stint is limited due to finding a franchise QB that played for him for ten years. Even with the limited sample size, you can see Pete has gotten a lot out of them.
Hass: Best playoff performance of his career. Even the Chicago game was a good performance by Hass trying to carry the team in the twilight of his career.
Tarvaris: Most productive year of Tarvaris's career.
Russell: His career in Seattle speaks for itself.
Geno: Geno is playing at a level no one in the league thought he could play at. Pete once again put him through the fires of competition and went with Geno when many of us would have preferred to see the former Denver guy play. Pete turned out to be right again on that call.
Luck is not reproducible. What Pete is doing is putting the players in the best position to produce and excel and getting higher performances than are usual and in Russ and Geno's case, much, much higher than expected.
Pete has a method that works for getting whatever you can get out of talent at a given time. It isn't luck. It's a method for maximizing player performance. When it works with a highly talented player, it works very, very well.