Aseahawkfan wrote: It's a win-win situation if we can get him for a decent price.
trents wrote:That is the key. I just hope Pete and John don't mortgage the farm to keep him if desperate teams drive the price up.
NorthHawk wrote:Geno won’t give any home town discount and nor should he. It’s his last and biggest grab for the brass rail and he’s
not going to shortchange himself at the end.
How much he’s offered is anybody’s guess at this point but he will surely get more than he’s made his entire career for each year of his contract.
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think you can say it was a chance he wouldn't have gotten with any other team. They all need back ups and starters go down ... it coulda happened somewhere else.
We didn't sign Geno until well into the FA period
NorthHawk wrote:He hasn't made all that much in his career. I think the total is around $11M.
He should double that at least in per year salary, but I think he's going to ask for as much as he can get and go to any team that offers it. And I don't blame him as he's 33 years old.
We didn't sign Geno until well into the FA period
c_hawkbob wrote:Exactly, so it could have been any team that needed a backup, just happened to us. Thank goodness!
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think Geno owes Pete all that much. I think we got lucky with him breaking out in a Seahawks uniform.
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think Geno owes Pete all that much. I think we got lucky with him breaking out in a Seahawks uniform.
RiverDog wrote:He broke out because Russell got traded. Had that trade not happened, Geno would have never gotten the opportunity that he has now. No other team would have given him the chance he got with us, so if anyone is lucky, it's Geno.
trents wrote:How many times have we seen pro athletes have one great year when their contracts are up for renewal?
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think Geno owes Pete all that much. I think we got lucky with him breaking out in a Seahawks uniform.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I'm hoping he gives us a hometown discount of around 3 years at 75 million with maybe some incentives. If he hits the market, some desperate team might give him more. But I feel like he's got a good situation here with the chemistry with Pete, Waldron, and the offensive players and line. He's the old veteran here. He goes somewhere else and he has to learn something new and mesh with the players there. Any hiccups and he's going to get reamed. Whereas here Pete knows him and how to use him, so I'm hoping that is enough to allow us to spend a bit less money to retain a QB who is in a very good situation.
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think Geno owes Pete all that much. I think we got lucky with him breaking out in a Seahawks uniform.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I'm sorry. Geno don't play like he's playing now anywhere else. Pete knows how to get QBs to play very well, not many other coaches in this league do. You are severely underestimating the Pete effect on Geno.
Even Geno himself said "Pete knows how to coach ball." All his players say the same thing.
The guy is turning 5th round picks into Pro Bowl, Borderline Hall of Fame corners. He built an elite defense probably in the top 10 of all time. He gave us our first elite QB. He won a Super Bowl. He brought Marshawn Lynch from sitting on the bench in Buffalo as a lost cause to Beastmode doing commercials all over the place.
Pete is a magic kind of coach that seems to take cast offs and turn them into something great at a rate far better than most coaches I've seen.
Seems to me you are underestimating the Pete effect and more importantly the effect of having two Pro Bowl receivers.
Geno is going to way more than double 11 million a year. Geno will get 25 plus million a year for about 3 years on the basis of this year in my opinion at a minimum. He might end up with more than 30. We will see. It's not going to be a tiny contract. The dude is a top 5 QB this year and might get an MVP vote given the new system.
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think Geno owes Pete all that much. I think we got lucky with him breaking out in a Seahawks uniform.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I'm sorry. Geno don't play like he's playing now anywhere else. Pete knows how to get QBs to play very well, not many other coaches in this league do. You are severely underestimating the Pete effect on Geno.
Even Geno himself said "Pete knows how to coach ball." All his players say the same thing.
The guy is turning 5th round picks into Pro Bowl, Borderline Hall of Fame corners. He built an elite defense probably in the top 10 of all time. He gave us our first elite QB. He won a Super Bowl. He brought Marshawn Lynch from sitting on the bench in Buffalo as a lost cause to Beastmode doing commercials all over the place.
Pete is a magic kind of coach that seems to take cast offs and turn them into something great at a rate far better than most coaches I've seen.
Seems to me you are underestimating the Pete effect and more importantly the effect of having two Pro Bowl receivers.
Geno is going to way more than double 11 million a year. Geno will get 25 plus million a year for about 3 years on the basis of this year in my opinion at a minimum. He might end up with more than 30. We will see. It's not going to be a tiny contract. The dude is a top 5 QB this year and might get an MVP vote given the new system.
RiverDog wrote:Well, I'm not going to blow Pete all the kisses that you have, but I agree completely that Geno owes him big time. There are only 32 starting quarterback positions in this league with the vast majority of them spoken for going into the 2022 season. I can't even think of a team that would have given Geno even a second thought to starting, knowing what they did prior to the season.
Pete and the Seahawks were the only team with that kind of opportunity. Had Pete not brought him back, the best Geno could have hoped for would have been to catch on as a #2 or #3 on the depth chart somewhere, which itself would have been a challenge, then lucking out by being at the right place at the right time when the starter got injured like what happened with Brock Purdy with the Niners, and even then, he would not have been familiar with the coaches and players and may not have played as well as he has here.
I'm sure that we'll make a healthy offer to bring him back next season as even if we draft a rookie QB in the first round, he likely won't be ready to start right off the bat and it would be a nice situation to be in having a veteran for a rookie to learn from rather than being thrown to the wolves.
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think Geno owes Pete all that much. I think we got lucky with him breaking out in a Seahawks uniform.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I'm sorry. Geno don't play like he's playing now anywhere else. Pete knows how to get QBs to play very well, not many other coaches in this league do. You are severely underestimating the Pete effect on Geno.
Even Geno himself said "Pete knows how to coach ball." All his players say the same thing.
The guy is turning 5th round picks into Pro Bowl, Borderline Hall of Fame corners. He built an elite defense probably in the top 10 of all time. He gave us our first elite QB. He won a Super Bowl. He brought Marshawn Lynch from sitting on the bench in Buffalo as a lost cause to Beastmode doing commercials all over the place.
Pete is a magic kind of coach that seems to take cast offs and turn them into something great at a rate far better than most coaches I've seen.
Seems to me you are underestimating the Pete effect and more importantly the effect of having two Pro Bowl receivers.
Geno is going to way more than double 11 million a year. Geno will get 25 plus million a year for about 3 years on the basis of this year in my opinion at a minimum. He might end up with more than 30. We will see. It's not going to be a tiny contract. The dude is a top 5 QB this year and might get an MVP vote given the new system.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Not sure how you equate this to anything other than Pete. He has a long track record of getting great performances from his QBs. So it's about as much of a fact as any other football statistic. Pete has a knack for managing QBs and getting great performances out of them, players in general dating back to his college days where players he recruited ended up as 1st round picks.
Doesn't mean he doesn't miss on occasion or other coaches can't do something similar. But the group of coaches that can is part of a small, elite club. So I doubt Geno does as well anywhere else other than maybe New England, Baltimore, or KC where the handful of other great coaches reside.
NorthHawk wrote:Flash back to pre-season and the end of TC.
Pete was trying to give Lock a solid chance to become the starter. He believed so much in Geno that he never said Geno won the competition but rather said the competition continues. So it sounds like Pete wasn’t sure about Geno, either.
It’s a testament to Geno that when the big lights turned on, he really performed but his starting spot was at first in doubt.
trents wrote:Aseahawkfan, get a grip man! Geno ain't yet a HOF candidate and I would not put Pete in the same class as Bill B, Shula or Vince L. Your fanboy is out of control!
RiverDog wrote:
I'm not interested in debating Pete's HOF credentials, but just out of curiosity, besides Russell, which QB's is it that Pete has gotten so much out of? Tavaris Jackson? Matt Hasselbeck? Drew Bledsoe? I don't remember great seasons out of any of those guys during Pete's tutelage. I'm not sure that college quarterbacking is equal to that in the pros, but if it is, anything they learned from Pete sure didn't carry them very far into the NFL (Matt Leinart and Carson Palmer? Really?).
I doubt that we have an opportunity to settle the question about Geno's viability with a team other than the Seahawks as I suspect that we make him a solid offer and doubt that another team is interested in getting into a bidding contest for a 32 year old QB that had one good season. But we'll see. Who knows, maybe Geno will go on to win the MVP and SB MVP.
RiverDog wrote:I'm not interested in debating Pete's HOF credentials, but just out of curiosity, besides Russell, which QB's is it that Pete has gotten so much out of? Tavaris Jackson? Matt Hasselbeck? Drew Bledsoe? I don't remember great seasons out of any of those guys during Pete's tutelage. I'm not sure that college quarterbacking is equal to that in the pros, but if it is, anything they learned from Pete sure didn't carry them very far into the NFL (Matt Leinart and Carson Palmer? Really?).
I doubt that we have an opportunity to settle the question about Geno's viability with a team other than the Seahawks as I suspect that we make him a solid offer and doubt that another team is interested in getting into a bidding contest for a 32 year old QB that had one good season. But we'll see. Who knows, maybe Geno will go on to win the MVP and SB MVP.
trents wrote:Aseahawkfan, get a grip man! Geno ain't yet a HOF candidate and I would not put Pete in the same class as Bill B, Shula or Vince L. Your fanboy is out of control!
Hawktawk wrote:BB is in his own category. Pete's surefire maybe 1st ballot after this flip is over.Right up there. A great coach. And he didn't say Genos hall of fame caliber. he said our corners were.
But we have a great coach. After watching some of these wonder boys this year I'm all for Pete hanging around a few more years.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Pete is in that tier under with coaches like Andy Reid and John Harbaugh. They can get a lot out of players no one expects them to do much with.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Pete is in that tier under with coaches like Andy Reid and John Harbaugh. They can get a lot out of players no one expects them to do much with.
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