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Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:48 am

Id feel better if not for last week. Not quite sure how to judge that one all things considering. But 6-4, 5-2 after starting 1-2. Solid 4 game win streak snapped. Maybe its a good thing to keep everyone's head in the game,, keep from reading press clippings and getting a fat head.
Were as healthy as all year. Our very good secondary is getting Tre Brown back to compete for time.Pete made it clear he has no guarantee of a starting job when ready, that's how good the corner play has been.

Hopefully Diggs will use the time to get healthier cause hes not right and we need him better. The 51 yards he gave up Sunday was his career high and everyone watches film. He looked more like he was trying not to get hurt on that field last week then make plays and I guess I dont blame him but hes got to step up.
I totally write off K9s performance last week to zero traction. Nobody can handle him on a field he can accelerate and cut on. We lack depth at the position and we take a pretty good hit to our chances if he goes down.

Unless Geno can do what he did in the second half Sunday which was throw almost every down. Hes been good but as his biggest fan I look at the overall body of work here 7-6 as a starter, 6-4 this year, top ten or better in everything. He hasn't had the signature game winning drive, I have him 0-1 vs Atl but many momentum swinging TDs all year.
Bad mistake in the second half fumbling or we might come back and win the damn game last week. Pete says the play was supposed to be a run disguised to look like a pass and added that he doesn't like to see Geno running so much. So another little disagreement with Waldron there. If I have a qb completing in the mid 70% range #4 in TD passes Id probably put it in his hands. Bottom line the QB fumbled, play call didn't matter. The margin for error will shrink every game and if Geno wants the feel good story to continue to the end hes got to finish.
I trust our offense. Not sure about our defense but if its somewhere between the 4 game streak and what we saw Sunday its a 9-8,10-7 team. If its what we had those 4 games which was #1 the sky is the limit.
In other news heard the name Shane Waldron mentioned as a possible HC candidate next year.

Now time for some stress free football this weekend.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby c_hawkbob » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:11 am

Well I had us at 3 wins at the bye, I couldn't be happier if I were twins with how the season is going so far!
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:30 am

c_hawkbob wrote:Well I had us at 3 wins at the bye, I couldn't be happier if I were twins with how the season is going so far!

I’m ok . It’s about what I expected at this point on the way to 10-7 WC. I got a little greedy after that win streak. If they come home with 2 weeks to prepare and lose to the raiders all bets are off . I think they are gonna be ready though . Hungry .
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby tarlhawk » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:02 pm

The fumble hurt the close and finish effort but the slow first 3 quarters played the bigger role of putting us behind the 8 ball. Its all about perspective. The loss going into our bye week provides the continued hunger to spark the push to close out our 2022 season. When the perception from outside pundits is that we are overachieving and Tampa let out some of the air in our baloon...then that leaves us still in the driving seat of proving we have become a better team in the 2022 season...the NFL is full of surprises and our team has been one of them.

Onward and upward! Go Hawks!
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby trents » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:15 pm

I expected six wins all season before it started. So, I'm looking at the sunny side of the season for the Hawks.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby idhawkman » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:44 pm

I guess I'm not as concerned about last week as others. The time difference between Seattle and Munich is bigger than Tampa and Munich. I think our players just took a little Onwer to get in gear.

Also, we activated players thinking they were going to throw mostly ut they caught us flat footed when they schemed a run heavy game.

I really liked how we started figuring it out in the second half.

Regarding Geno and game winning drives... I'd rather be scoring all game and not having to rely on heroics in the 4th qtr like RW did every week.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:24 pm

idhawkman wrote:I guess I'm not as concerned about last week as others. The time difference between Seattle and Munich is bigger than Tampa and Munich. I think our players just took a little Onwer to get in gear.

Also, we activated players thinking they were going to throw mostly ut they caught us flat footed when they schemed a run heavy game.

I really liked how we started figuring it out in the second half.

Regarding Geno and game winning drives... I'd rather be scoring all game and not having to rely on heroics in the 4th qtr like RW did every week.


We've beaten that time change subject death and then some, so I'm not going there except to say that I completely disagree that it has a significant effect on the outcome.

We got beat by the better team last Sunday. I've heard some say that 'if Geno hadn't fumbled, we would have come back and won that game.' Well, if the Bucs hadn't given us that gift turnover by trying to throw a pass to a 45 year old quarterback or if Brady hadn't thrown one of his extremely rare interceptions, that game wouldn't have been nearly as close. We had a very poor defensive scheme, and our offense was out of sync for 3/4 of the contest with a historically inept running attack. We got our butts kicked.

We're in very good shape going into our bye with no major injuries to absorb. The back half of our schedule is in excellent shape for us to make a strong playoff run, with 5 of our final 7 games in the friendly confines. We start out by hosting the 2-7 Raiders, who have lost their last 3 in a row and 4 of their last 5, then we get the Rams who aren't close to the same team they have been in recent years and just lost arguably the top WR in the game, then we get the 3-7 Panthers at home. We have three tough games in the center of that back half, at KC and at home against the Niners and Jets before we end the season at home against the Rams, but if all we do is win the 4 games we're supposed to, we'll be right at Hawktawk's 10 game minimum.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:33 pm

This is the hard part of our schedule. So we'll see how we do coming out of the bye.

Rams look terrible. If they don't get Stafford back, they're season is pretty much done. Even if they get Stafford back, they have to beat us or their season is done. It's games like this against teams with their backs against the wall that you find out who you are as a team.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:36 pm

idhawkman wrote:I guess I'm not as concerned about last week as others. The time difference between Seattle and Munich is bigger than Tampa and Munich. I think our players just took a little Onwer to get in gear.

Also, we activated players thinking they were going to throw mostly ut they caught us flat footed when they schemed a run heavy game.

I really liked how we started figuring it out in the second half.

Regarding Geno and game winning drives... I'd rather be scoring all game and not having to rely on heroics in the 4th qtr like RW did every week.


We'll see how long you continue to think that is ok when you find out during a season and especially during the playoffs you are going to have games where you gotta come back from behind and your QB can't get it done.

Right now people are fresh off a great trade watching Geno do extremely well given expectations. But that effect will wear off quick, especially if we hit the playoffs or get in a tough game and he can't get it done when it needs to get done.

Russ is getting 50 million a year because in the past he could get it done when it needed to get done and that's what separated him from pack of QBs who can do fine most games, but can't elevate when the game's on the line.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:37 pm

idhawkman wrote:I guess I'm not as concerned about last week as others. The time difference between Seattle and Munich is bigger than Tampa and Munich. I think our players just took a little Onwer to get in gear.

Also, we activated players thinking they were going to throw mostly ut they caught us flat footed when they schemed a run heavy game.

I really liked how we started figuring it out in the second half.

Regarding Geno and game winning drives... I'd rather be scoring all game and not having to rely on heroics in the 4th qtr like RW did every week.

You’re dead right about the time difference , especially which 3 hours it was . The more I look at the field conditions thr more it’s just a throwaway game to me . Outcoached in the first half by a team that seemed to design a game plan with a bad field in mind and we didn’t . But yeah even with a fumble we were right there . Had we not fumbled we win . They made more mistakes . Just had better luck standing up . NFL blew it . Screwed us . It matters to me .
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:18 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:This is the hard part of our schedule. So we'll see how we do coming out of the bye.

Rams look terrible. If they don't get Stafford back, they're season is pretty much done. Even if they get Stafford back, they have to beat us or their season is done. It's games like this against teams with their backs against the wall that you find out who you are as a team.


The Rams get Stafford back tomorrow.

This isn't the toughest part of our schedule. Four of our remaining seven games are against teams with just 3 wins this season, and we have 5 of our last 7 at home. It's very doable.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:44 pm

RiverDog wrote:The Rams get Stafford back tomorrow.

This isn't the toughest part of our schedule. Four of our remaining seven games are against teams with just 3 wins this season, and we have 5 of our last 7 at home. It's very doable.


We didn't have a very tough schedule to start with, but yes, this is the toughest part. Wins and losses are not the measure of why this part of the season is tough as many of these records are illusions.

Chiefs are the toughest game we play all year. 49ers are going to be tough. Prior to that the toughest game we played was the 49ers. I wasn't buying the Giants record and it proved as much. San Diego is a shell of a team.

Then the Rams will decide how tough this turns out to be as they have to beat us to have any chance of the playoffs and they are a division rival that knows us well. Cornered teams, especially cornered division teams, can be a tough out.

And you may well see that in our win-loss record the last half of the season. To me this last half of the season will almost all key on the division games, specifically the Rams. If the Rams take the first game, they will gain momentum. If we get them the first game, they'll likely be done. I will watch that game closely.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:23 pm

RiverDog wrote:The Rams get Stafford back tomorrow.

This isn't the toughest part of our schedule. Four of our remaining seven games are against teams with just 3 wins this season, and we have 5 of our last 7 at home. It's very doable.


Aseahawkfan wrote:We didn't have a very tough schedule to start with, but yes, this is the toughest part. Wins and losses are not the measure of why this part of the season is tough as many of these records are illusions.

Chiefs are the toughest game we play all year. 49ers are going to be tough. Prior to that the toughest game we played was the 49ers. I wasn't buying the Giants record and it proved as much. San Diego is a shell of a team.

Then the Rams will decide how tough this turns out to be as they have to beat us to have any chance of the playoffs and they are a division rival that knows us well. Cornered teams, especially cornered division teams, can be a tough out.

And you may well see that in our win-loss record the last half of the season. To me this last half of the season will almost all key on the division games, specifically the Rams. If the Rams take the first game, they will gain momentum. If we get them the first game, they'll likely be done. I will watch that game closely.


You are what your record says you are. A 3-6 team sucks. This isn't the same Rams team that we've known in the past, and now they're without their top wide receiver. Sure, they could turn it around like every other team in the league, but right now, they're a mess. Toss in games against the 3-7 Panthers and 2-7 Raiders and that's 4 games where we should be the favorites. The fact that we have 5 out of our last 7 at home, including two of our three toughest games, has to count for something, doesn't it?

Agreed about the Giants. They haven't played the Eagles yet and still have to play the Cowboys again and the Vikings. I'm not buying them yet.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:30 pm

RiverDog wrote:You are what your record says you are. A 3-6 team sucks. This isn't the same Rams team that we've known in the past, and now they're without their top wide receiver. Sure, they could turn it around like every other team in the league, but right now, they're a mess. Toss in games against the 3-7 Panthers and 2-7 Raiders and that's 4 games where we should be the favorites. The fact that we have 5 out of our last 7 at home, including two of our three toughest games, has to count for something, doesn't it?

Agreed about the Giants. They haven't played the Eagles yet and still have to play the Cowboys again and the Vikings. I'm not buying them yet.


No. You are not what your record says you are. We've seen that a lot of years. People like to make that ridiculous claim until you run into a team that isn't what their record says they are and they kick your ass at a key time. Sorry, I don't buy that type of talk. Some teams are way better than their records say they are and some teams are worse. Strength of schedule, timing of injuries, and a lot of factors play into schedule and record.

The Rams have been playing a bunch of tough teams. Rams lost to the full strength Bills, 49ers twice, the Bucs, the Cowboys, and the Cards (using a terrible backup QB against the Cardinals veteran backup QB). Rams have beaten the Cards, Panthers, and Falcons. The Rams have had a tough Super Bowl division winner schedule, while we've been playing cream puffs.

Maybe you're right and the Rams are as terrible as their record says they are. That will be great. But maybe the Rams just aren't as good as the full strength Bills, the 49ers in division games, or the Buccs or Cowboys while injured. But if they show up against Seattle in a "win or your season is done" game at full strength or at least with a healthy starting QB, we might be very surprised the Rams are better than their record by a good measure.

We'll see soon enough. All I know is this is the tough part of our schedule and I'll keep thinking that until we put the Rams behind us because I don't like playing wounded animals with a lot of talent fighting for their lives in division matchups. That type of game is usually brutal. I know the Rams see us as blocking the path to their return to the playoffs and they are going to come here playing like their playoff life depends on beating us because it does.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby I-5 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:12 pm

Regarding Geno and game winning drives... I'd rather be scoring all game and not having to rely on heroics in the 4th qtr like RW did every week.


Thank God, we haven't had to do the come from behind like we always seemed to do with Russ. Munich was the first game in a while we were that sluggish in the first half. Geno has been effective all game usually. Denver now knows what it's like.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:26 am

There’s truth and otherwise in all of these statements . Overall our offense has been very good . To be fair to Russ we never had this 3 headed monster TE package before , all huge talented guys that can block and catch . Fant of course was part of the trade . But Geno moves the sticks for the most part . Not last week other then chunk drives but we’ve been top 5 in 3 rd downs . Looking back over the past few years it seemed we were always behind . In 17 we went 9 and 7 and had the lead in 3 games out of 16 at the half . Lots of no score or low score first halves .
Our offense is more reliable , more explosive . Our D is the question. I think I know the answer . Vegas at Lumen they get back their swag and away we go .
As far as us being in an easiest part of the schedule based on this year we have no idea week to week . I thought we would batter Tampa . I’m sure the Eagles didn’t expect to lose to the commanders and Taylor Heineken :lol: much less get shoved around . KC this and that . They lost to the colts . Got beat by the bills who now look very ordinary and might finish last in their division . Nobody saw the jets on the schedule and said uh oh and nobody did about Seattle either . These final seven weeks are unpredictable as I’ve ever seen . If we play like the chargers game we won’t lose again . Play like week 2 or last week we could lose all of them . I don’t think we will but I was not born yesterday .
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby NorthHawk » Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:33 am

Hawktawk wrote:There’s truth and otherwise in all of these statements . Overall our offense has been very good . To be fair to Russ we never had this 3 headed monster TE package before , all huge talented guys that can block and catch . Fant of course was part of the trade . But Geno moves the sticks for the most part . Not last week other then chunk drives but we’ve been top 5 in 3 rd downs . Looking back over the past few years it seemed we were always behind . In 17 we went 9 and 7 and had the lead in 3 games out of 16 at the half . Lots of no score or low score first halves .
Our offense is more reliable , more explosive . Our D is the question. I think I know the answer . Vegas at Lumen they get back their swag and away we go .
As far as us being in an easiest part of the schedule based on this year we have no idea week to week . I thought we would batter Tampa . I’m sure the Eagles didn’t expect to lose to the commanders and Taylor Heineken :lol: much less get shoved around . KC this and that . They lost to the colts . Got beat by the bills who now look very ordinary and might finish last in their division . Nobody saw the jets on the schedule and said uh oh and nobody did about Seattle either . These final seven weeks are unpredictable as I’ve ever seen . If we play like the chargers game we won’t lose again . Play like week 2 or last week we could lose all of them . I don’t think we will but I was not born yesterday .


Keeping it close and winning at the end is Pete's preferred way to play. We are now using TE's like we should have instead of trying to make the Jimmy Grahams of the world become inline blockers.
I hope to hell Pete hasn't looked at our Defense and said to himself 'now we have turned the corner and we can go back to my style of offensive football'. It would mean a return to doing very little except hang on in the
first half and then try to win at the end.

This team has done far better than I expected so far and it's in a large part because the Offense has stepped into the 21st century. It's quite like the first 5 games of 2020 when the Offense won those games single-handedly.
Unfortunately after a rough spell, Pete stepped up and stated that we were playing a game of football he didn't know and throttled it back. I hope he knows it now because we can't afford to go back to the old way on Offense.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:50 am

Aseahawkfan wrote:The Rams have been playing a bunch of tough teams. Rams lost to the full strength Bills, 49ers twice, the Bucs, the Cowboys, and the Cards (using a terrible backup QB against the Cardinals veteran backup QB). Rams have beaten the Cards, Panthers, and Falcons. The Rams have had a tough Super Bowl division winner schedule, while we've been playing cream puffs.

Maybe you're right and the Rams are as terrible as their record says they are. That will be great. But maybe the Rams just aren't as good as the full strength Bills, the 49ers in division games, or the Buccs or Cowboys while injured. But if they show up against Seattle in a "win or your season is done" game at full strength or at least with a healthy starting QB, we might be very surprised the Rams are better than their record by a good measure.

We'll see soon enough. All I know is this is the tough part of our schedule and I'll keep thinking that until we put the Rams behind us because I don't like playing wounded animals with a lot of talent fighting for their lives in division matchups. That type of game is usually brutal. I know the Rams see us as blocking the path to their return to the playoffs and they are going to come here playing like their playoff life depends on beating us because it does.


Today, the Rams are starting their 10th offensive line combination in as many games, and they are starting a tackle and a guard that the just signed as free agents. Kupp is out 6-8 weeks, having undergone surgery:

Just as big of an issue as Kupp's absence is the state of the Rams' offensive line, which has been riddled with injuries throughout the season and will feature its 10th different starting combination in 10 games Sunday.

This past week, starting left tackle Alaric Jackson was sidelined for the season due to blood clots, starting guard Chandler Brewer suffered a season-ending torn medial collateral ligament and center Brian Allen injured a thumb. The Rams already were without offensive tackle Joe Noteboom, guard Logan Bruss, and linemen Tremayne Anchrum Jr. and Jeremiah Kolone.

Against the Saints, the Rams are expected to start left tackle Ty Nsekhe and guard Oday Aboushi, who were both recently signed as free agents.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/350 ... -6-8-weeks

Like I said, this is NOT the same Rams team that won last season's Super Bowl, not even close. If we can't beat them in the condition they are, then we don't deserve to go to the playoffs.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:08 pm

I agree with this river ! We should at least split and I’m the only guy saying it pre season . Depending on what happens I’d expect to sweep them this year . It’s another weird day though . Colts lead eagles. Giants getting crushed at home by Detroit . Hard to know what to expect .
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:20 pm

Yeah, Rams are losing again, too. Stafford is back in concussion protocol.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:38 pm

RiverDog wrote:Yeah, Rams are losing again, too. Stafford is back in concussion protocol.

Wow if Stafford is back in protocol his eggs must really be scrambled now . Hate to see it but he’s better then wofford. Kupp is all they had anyway
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:52 pm

RiverDog wrote:Yeah, Rams are losing again, too. Stafford is back in concussion protocol.


Hawktawk wrote:Wow if Stafford is back in protocol his eggs must really be scrambled now . Hate to see it but he’s better then wofford. Kupp is all they had anyway


Wofford wasn't playing. Bryce Perkins, who ever he is, was QB when I saw them. They're toast, lost today to drop to 3-7. Talk about a Super Bowl hangover! Giants lost to the Lions, who have now won 3 straight. Eagles barely beat the Colts.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:07 pm

Maybe wofford got hurt or benched . He’s the little left handed dude Adams broke his neck in the 2020 WC . Goff came in and outplayed Wilson with a broken thumb on his throwing hand but that’s another subject . I’ll say the same of those Rams last year as I did the 2020 hawks . Great record and in the case of the rams world champs but it felt hollow . Fools gold . They are being called the most irrelevant defending champs ever . So watch them run the table right ?
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:08 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Maybe wofford got hurt or benched . He’s the little left handed dude Adams broke his neck in the 2020 WC . Goff came in and outplayed Wilson with a broken thumb on his throwing hand but that’s another subject . I’ll say the same of those Rams last year as I did the 2020 hawks . Great record and in the case of the rams world champs but it felt hollow . Fools gold . They are being called the most irrelevant defending champs ever . So watch them run the table right ?


Wolford is right handed. He was inactive today, out with a neck injury. He played like crap last week vs. the Cards in a matchup of backups. I don't think you have to worry about the Rams running the table. They are what their record says they are. :D
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:55 pm

RiverDog wrote:Today, the Rams are starting their 10th offensive line combination in as many games, and they are starting a tackle and a guard that the just signed as free agents. Kupp is out 6-8 weeks, having undergone surgery:

Just as big of an issue as Kupp's absence is the state of the Rams' offensive line, which has been riddled with injuries throughout the season and will feature its 10th different starting combination in 10 games Sunday.

This past week, starting left tackle Alaric Jackson was sidelined for the season due to blood clots, starting guard Chandler Brewer suffered a season-ending torn medial collateral ligament and center Brian Allen injured a thumb. The Rams already were without offensive tackle Joe Noteboom, guard Logan Bruss, and linemen Tremayne Anchrum Jr. and Jeremiah Kolone.

Against the Saints, the Rams are expected to start left tackle Ty Nsekhe and guard Oday Aboushi, who were both recently signed as free agents.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/350 ... -6-8-weeks

Like I said, this is NOT the same Rams team that won last season's Super Bowl, not even close. If we can't beat them in the condition they are, then we don't deserve to go to the playoffs.


If Stafford is out and the Rams are playing a third string QB, then sure, should be an easy win.

When Stafford was in, they were soundly beating the Saints. They are a different team with Stafford even if not as good as last year. Right now Stafford is not healthy and maybe won't be by the time we play them. If he is, don't be surprised to lose. Rams are better than their record when Stafford is healthy, just not a top tier team like the Chiefs or Bills when healthy.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:32 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:When Stafford was in, they were soundly beating the Saints. They are a different team with Stafford even if not as good as last year. Right now Stafford is not healthy and maybe won't be by the time we play them. If he is, don't be surprised to lose. Rams are better than their record when Stafford is healthy, just not a top tier team like the Chiefs or Bills when healthy.


Even before today, the Rams were 3-5 with Stafford as a starter. They have yet to beat a team with a .500 or better record. Their wins have come against the Cards, Panthers, and Falcons. The Rams are missing two key components from last year's team: LT Andrew Whitworth and LB Von Miller, and as I noted above, their offensive line is in shambles.

I'm not underestimating them as if this season has taught us anything, it's that every Sunday is different. As I'm writing this, I'm watching the Cowboys just pound the hell out of the once beaten Vikings. But as it stands now, the Rams just plain suck. They might be the weakest opponent left on our schedule, and we get them twice.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:53 pm

RiverDog wrote:Even before today, the Rams were 3-5 with Stafford as a starter. They have yet to beat a team with a .500 or better record. Their wins have come against the Cards, Panthers, and Falcons. The Rams are missing two key components from last year's team: LT Andrew Whitworth and LB Von Miller, and as I noted above, their offensive line is in shambles.

I'm not underestimating them as if this season has taught us anything, it's that every Sunday is different. As I'm writing this, I'm watching the Cowboys just pound the hell out of the once beaten Vikings. But as it stands now, the Rams just plain suck. They might be the weakest opponent left on our schedule, and we get them twice.


You said the Cowboys looked good a while back, so not surprising.

We'll see how it goes with the Rams. If Stafford is out, I think they are easy wins or should be. With Stafford in, I think they will be a much harder dog fight than you think. Since we can't settle this debate until they play, I guess we'll leave it there and see if we get to play a Stafford-less Rams or if they have some fight left in them.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:04 pm

RiverDog wrote:Even before today, the Rams were 3-5 with Stafford as a starter. They have yet to beat a team with a .500 or better record. Their wins have come against the Cards, Panthers, and Falcons. The Rams are missing two key components from last year's team: LT Andrew Whitworth and LB Von Miller, and as I noted above, their offensive line is in shambles.

I'm not underestimating them as if this season has taught us anything, it's that every Sunday is different. As I'm writing this, I'm watching the Cowboys just pound the hell out of the once beaten Vikings. But as it stands now, the Rams just plain suck. They might be the weakest opponent left on our schedule, and we get them twice.


Aseahawkfan wrote:You said the Cowboys looked good a while back, so not surprising.


Until today, the Cowboys hadn't played anyone very good since they lost to the Eagles. In their last 3 games, they beat the Bears and Lions then lost to the Packers. It's not so much that they're beating the Vikings, they're hammering them. The Cowboys never punted until there was 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, scoring on every one of their 7 drives. Edit: 4th quarter, and it's 40-3, biggest rout of the season and it's a once beaten team that's on the losing end.

Aseahawkfan wrote:We'll see how it goes with the Rams. If Stafford is out, I think they are easy wins or should be. With Stafford in, I think they will be a much harder dog fight than you think. Since we can't settle this debate until they play, I guess we'll leave it there and see if we get to play a Stafford-less Rams or if they have some fight left in them.


That, we will. All I'm saying is that looking at the landscape as it stands today, this schedule is very favorable, especially when you consider that we have 5 of the last 7 at home.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:10 pm

Last year we were in both games vs the champs late last year . Both involved a crucial non call on the Rams for PI. Lockett was knocked to the ground on a timing route leading to a pick by Geno . It was his third drive after 141 yards passing , 2/ rushing , 10 points in a quarter after sitting 5 years. The second game Dee Jay was literally tackled as the ball hit the defender in the back with Seattle down 10-7 . Wilson badly under-threw the ball but it didn’t matter . No call but when a furious Dee Jay kicked the ball it was 15 . Both those were winnable . Last year .
If Seattle can get back that groove from the 4 game streak I fear no team anywhere we can kick off in the daytime and stand up on the field . God bless the bills on their nice warm fast field btw. No asterisk .
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:13 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Last year we were in both games vs the champs late last year . Both involved a crucial non call on the Rams for PI. Lockett was knocked to the ground on a timing route leading to a pick by Geno . It was his third drive after 141 yards passing , 2/ rushing , 10 points in a quarter after sitting 5 years. The second game Dee Jay was literally tackled as the ball hit the defender in the back with Seattle down 10-7 . Wilson badly under-threw the ball but it didn’t matter . No call but when a furious Dee Jay kicked the ball it was 15 . Both those were winnable . Last year .
If Seattle can get back that groove from the 4 game streak I fear no team anywhere we can kick off in the daytime and stand up on the field . God bless the bills on their nice warm fast field btw. No asterisk .


Yeah, if it wasn't for those critical non calls, we'd been hoisting the Lombardi! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby obiken » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:56 pm

Who do we cheer for Niners or the Cards? Yuk on both!! lol!
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:08 pm

obiken wrote:Who do we cheer for Niners or the Cards? Yuk on both!! lol!


The Cards, of course!
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:25 pm

Yep. Cards. Niners are a real threat. They're like 3 and 0 in the division beating us and the Rams twice. They win today and they take the division lead. They may not give it back after taking it.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby RiverDog » Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:42 pm

Yeah, tomorrow night will be interesting. Both Murray and Hopkins are questionable. They might actually have a better chance starting Colt McCoy. The Niners have a tougher back half of their schedule than we do, but they are getting healthy at the right time.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:55 pm

49ers schedule looks about the same as ours Dolphins look like the most dangerous team. We have the Chiefs.

Cards twice. Seahawks. Saints. Bucs. Commanders. Raiders. Dolphins.

Dolphins and us only contenders. I guess get the Bucs on a bad day.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Agent 86 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:42 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Last year we were in both games vs the champs late last year . Both involved a crucial non call on the Rams for PI. Lockett was knocked to the ground on a timing route leading to a pick by Geno . It was his third drive after 141 yards passing , 2/ rushing , 10 points in a quarter after sitting 5 years. The second game Dee Jay was literally tackled as the ball hit the defender in the back with Seattle down 10-7 . Wilson badly under-threw the ball but it didn’t matter . No call but when a furious Dee Jay kicked the ball it was 15 . Both those were winnable . Last year .
If Seattle can get back that groove from the 4 game streak I fear no team anywhere we can kick off in the daytime and stand up on the field . God bless the bills on their nice warm fast field btw. No asterisk .


If I remember correctly, Lockett got his feet tangled with the DB from the Rams and fell over leading to the INT. If he hadn't of tripped, I think the ball was right on the money to him. It was no one's fault there on that one. But was not a "crucial non call" from the refs, that is not PI in the this league HT.
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:32 am

Hawktawk wrote:Last year we were in both games vs the champs late last year . Both involved a crucial non call on the Rams for PI. Lockett was knocked to the ground on a timing route leading to a pick by Geno . It was his third drive after 141 yards passing , 2/ rushing , 10 points in a quarter after sitting 5 years. The second game Dee Jay was literally tackled as the ball hit the defender in the back with Seattle down 10-7 . Wilson badly under-threw the ball but it didn’t matter . No call but when a furious Dee Jay kicked the ball it was 15 . Both those were winnable . Last year .
If Seattle can get back that groove from the 4 game streak I fear no team anywhere we can kick off in the daytime and stand up on the field . God bless the bills on their nice warm fast field btw. No asterisk .


Yeah, if it wasn't for those critical non calls, we'd been hoisting the Lombardi! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]


No we’d have had a chance to win those 2 games . If Cincy hadn’t got dinged with a holding call that was weak and also had the rams get a no call on a false start by the entire rams o line minus the center on the rams winning drive they might have hoisted one though .

Rams had a good run with officials , being bailed out twice last year vs the 7-10 Hawks . Weak sauce . This fan cares about intentional jobbing by officials and it does happen . Kind of like being asked to kick off halfway around the globe on jello at 6:30 AM pacific time . But suck it up hawks .
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:36 am

RiverDog wrote:Yeah, tomorrow night will be interesting. Both Murray and Hopkins are questionable. They might actually have a better chance starting Colt McCoy. The Niners have a tougher back half of their schedule than we do, but they are getting healthy at the right time.

Colt McCoy is Geno light . He runs the plays on schedule , accurate , calm . Not explosive like Murray but not an invalid either . As he proved last year completely outplaying Wilson he’s a capable player .
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Re: Seahawks at the bye

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:42 am

Hawktawk wrote:Last year we were in both games vs the champs late last year . Both involved a crucial non call on the Rams for PI. Lockett was knocked to the ground on a timing route leading to a pick by Geno . It was his third drive after 141 yards passing , 2/ rushing , 10 points in a quarter after sitting 5 years. The second game Dee Jay was literally tackled as the ball hit the defender in the back with Seattle down 10-7 . Wilson badly under-threw the ball but it didn’t matter . No call but when a furious Dee Jay kicked the ball it was 15 . Both those were winnable . Last year .
If Seattle can get back that groove from the 4 game streak I fear no team anywhere we can kick off in the daytime and stand up on the field . God bless the bills on their nice warm fast field btw. No asterisk .


If I remember correctly, Lockett got his feet tangled with the DB from the Rams and fell over leading to the INT. If he hadn't of tripped, I think the ball was right on the money to him. It was no one's fault there on that one. But was not a "crucial non call" from the refs, that is not PI in the this league HT.[/quote]
Lockett was close . I guess you could call it tangled legs . I though he was cut off by the defender . Lockett never falls down . The one not called on Dee Jay was grand larceny . Impossible to miss . Just CHOSE not to flag it . F you Seattle . Go bottom feed .
Ask the 2019 saints if the Rams had a nice run with officiating around the time Kroenke fulfilled Goodells dream of a team and stadium in LA. When you win it all with a qb that leads the keagur in picks and pick 6s something went right .
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