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Ranking the conference

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:22 am

My #1 is Philly . They are legitimately a notch ahead imo . Then I gotta say Vikings . You are what your record says you are . So I’ll retract my statement that it’s a wide open conference
But who is #3? 9ers? They need a qb . Rams ? They do too . Packers lol. Atlanta ? saints ? 2 reasons we aren’t 7-1 . But we’re way different on defense now .
I think we’re a top 5 team in the conference .
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby RiverDog » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:31 am

Hawktawk wrote:My #1 is Philly . They are legitimately a notch ahead imo . Then I gotta say Vikings . You are what your record says you are . So I’ll retract my statement that it’s a wide open conference
But who is #3? 9ers? They need a qb . Rams ? They do too . Packers lol. Atlanta ? saints ? 2 reasons we aren’t 7-1 . But we’re way different on defense now .
I think we’re a top 5 team in the conference .


LOL! Brilliant minds think alike. I just started a thread, albeit it for the entire league.

Yeah, can't argue with being undefeated. But I'm still on the Niners bandwagon. I didn't think it possible, but McCaffery has made a huge difference and might have gotten them over the hump. They have the best defense in the league, and if Jimmy G. can avoid his one or two boners per game, IMO they have the necessary ingredients to go all the way. You also have to acknowledge the Cowboys.

Stick a fork in the Rams, Bucs, and Packers. We're in that middle tier, with the Falcons, Saints, and Commanders.
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby c_hawkbob » Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:40 am

I think we need to pump the breaks on the importance we seem to be giving the Niners victory over the Rams, about as to how good the Niners are and how bad the Rams are. I see it as kind or a natural order (or maybe a death spiral): 49ers > Rams > Seahawks > 49ers. It's games that break with that paradigm I give more credence to.
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:16 am

c_hawkbob wrote:I think we need to pump the breaks on the importance we seem to be giving the Niners victory over the Rams, bot as to how good the Niners are and how bad the Rams are. I see it as kind or a natural order (or maybe a death spiral): 49ers > Rams > Seahawks > 49ers. It's games that break with that paradigm I give more credence to.

Not to mention Shanny used up every one of his McCaffrey trick plays week one . Rams are not good . 9ers defense hasn’t been as good . I’m not buying them with Garrapolo nor was Shanny which is why he tried to give him away . It’s why they felt the pressure to add offense . I currently do not fear either team . Niners much less so after the last few games .
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:39 am

It will be interesting to see what Shanahan comes up with when he has both McCaffrey and Samuel on the field together.
The opposing Defense should have a real tough time deciding who to try to stop. The again, it might be too much for
one Offense to get the best out of both players.
I see Philly and the 49ers as 1st and 2nd in talent and potential.
I haven't seen the Vikings play, so I can't comment about them except to say they kept their already good Defense largely intact and opened up their Offense from the Zimmer box.
Cousins might be the weak link unless he shows he can win in Prime Time and the playoffs.
I think we are in the upper middle with a possibility of surprising someone but not a team destined for a long run in the playoffs. But as usual, the healthiest teams will go the furthest in the post season.
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby RiverDog » Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:48 am

The Niners are 3-0 in the division, winning all 3 games handily. It's hard to see how they've managed to lose half their games this season. You can explain their first two losses, to the Bears in a monsoon and against a very good defense combined with Jimmy G. brain farts vs. the Donkeys, and the Chiefs are one of the better teams in the league. But I can't see how they could manage to lose to the Falcons. Just one of the many oddities this season.

Nevertheless, if I had to bet money, I'd bet that the Niners win the division and go to the NFCCG.
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby Aseahawkfan » Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:04 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:I think we need to pump the breaks on the importance we seem to be giving the Niners victory over the Rams, about as to how good the Niners are and how bad the Rams are. I see it as kind or a natural order (or maybe a death spiral): 49ers > Rams > Seahawks > 49ers. It's games that break with that paradigm I give more credence to.


I do need to see what we look like against the Rams. We beat the Cardinals and got smoked by the 49ers. Division games are a litmus test. This defense is legitimately getting better. If we can beat the Rams as they do seem to have fallen off, that is going to be a real signal to the league we're ready to roll in the playoffs. That is a big test. This team has been passing a lot of tests and improving fast.
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:35 am

Eagles look really good . Yeah it was the Texans but for one I don’t play good team bad team . For another it seemed to be a spirited effort by the Texans . Eagles look like the cream of the conference .
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby RiverDog » Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:57 am

Hawktawk wrote:Eagles look really good . Yeah it was the Texans but for one I don’t play good team bad team . For another it seemed to be a spirited effort by the Texans . Eagles look like the cream of the conference .


I'm not so sure, but it is getting more and more difficult to dismiss them as it's pretty hard to argue against them when they're 8-0. However, I think that Dallas, with a healthy Dak Prescott, is the better team.
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:36 pm

RiverDog wrote:I'm not so sure, but it is getting more and more difficult to dismiss them as it's pretty hard to argue against them when they're 8-0. However, I think that Dallas, with a healthy Dak Prescott, is the better team.


I'm not sure I agree. The Eagles look like a very good team that makes winning look easy. Their run blocking is excellent. Their young QB is just hitting his stride and the team is growing confident. They can win in all ways. That Eagles team is a very good team. Their QB is definitely a dual threat QB.

Injuries could derail them as with any team. But the Eagles are the type of team you can play tough and it looks like you're in the game, then they just start blowing up and running over you.

Still don't think they are the Bills or Chiefs, but definitely a playoff team and very versatile in how they can win.
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby NorthHawk » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:20 pm

In looking at the Eagles it’s difficult to point to a weakness. They rotate their DL, so if Jordan Davis is out for
a long time it might impact their productivity but they seem pretty solid as a whole. Injuries, like ASF said will
play a big part in their success or failure.
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Re: Ranking the conference

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:51 pm

RiverDog wrote:I'm not so sure, but it is getting more and more difficult to dismiss them as it's pretty hard to argue against them when they're 8-0. However, I think that Dallas, with a healthy Dak Prescott, is the better team.


I'm not sure I agree. The Eagles look like a very good team that makes winning look easy. Their run blocking is excellent. Their young QB is just hitting his stride and the team is growing confident. They can win in all ways. That Eagles team is a very good team. Their QB is definitely a dual threat QB.

Injuries could derail them as with any team. But the Eagles are the type of team you can play tough and it looks like you're in the game, then they just start blowing up and running over you.

Still don't think they are the Bills or Chiefs, but definitely a playoff team and very versatile in how they can win.[/quote]

They can all be beaten on a given day other than nobody’s done it to Philly. And as Asea says they can appear to be getting a good game from a team then just put it away like last Thursday .

As for the Cowboys I love Dak the man , he’s not clutch which is why they haven’t won much that matters in his career . And we can say he’s injury prone I think . Then there’s Mike MCarthy who was killed by ARod with justification . B grade . Good but not the best .
I’m curious about the Vikings , it’s that record thing and Cousins is one of the better 1-b guys in the league . I’m sold on Hurts , he’s the real deal . Smart , confident , can make every throw . Deadly with his feet .

The thing that impresses me most is the coach Nick Soriano . He’s got the look of one of those guys , McVeigh etc type guy . Smart , tough and self assured. I know he got Cooper Rush when they played Dallas but he’s the first guy to expose him. The bench Dak talk was wild before that game .

And at the end of the game when Dallas players were scuffling with his team he was seen yelling “ F you , that’s ballgame “. Guys run through walls for a coach that stands up for them . He’s shaping up to be one of those legendary NFC Eaast dudes . They are a tough out . Right now . I watched an 8-2 Hawks team go 9-7, AZ did something similar a couple years ago . It’s just a snapshot .
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