Arizona Game Predictions

[Aseahawkfan]

Arizona at home. We should win this game. Arizona is a middling team on both sides of the ball. They have a running QB which could be a problem for this defense. Might be another shootout as Arizona's defense is middling to weak.

Division games usually bring out the best in both teams. Everyone knows division games are important as winning the division is the first goal for a playoff team.

Seattle wins 38-31.

[RiverDog]

It's gonna take 30+ points to defeat the Cards, and with no Penny, Walker or Dallas is going to have to step up and put out a 100+ yard performance for us to score 4 TD's, and I don't see that happening. And defensively, if we couldn't stop Taysom Hill from running all over us, I can't see us having success against Kyler Murray.

35-27 Cards.

Edit: I'm changing my prediction. I think we pull this one out: 31-30 Hawks.

[Hawktawk]

We do well against Murray or at least we have in the past . We crushed him week 17 last year . But our defense . They don’t have chandler Jones . Or honey badger . Mmmm. Can Geno continue to play out of his mind ? Well it’s like the Alamo . There’s no back door . Walker goes for 150. Geno 325 and 3 touches. Our d shows life . Seahawks 35- tards 24. 3-3

[Aseahawkfan]

I know my score predictions have to be higher at this point with Seattle turning into an offensive juggernaut and our defense turning into a "Dodge the blow up dolls" defense.

Who knows what our run game will look with Penny out. He was averaging a lot of yards per carry and a real threat. Ken Walker seems like he can carry the load, but you never know until he actually carries the load.

[RiverDog]

We do well against Murray or at least we have in the past . We crushed him week 17 last year . But our defense . They don’t have chandler Jones . Or honey badger . Mmmm. Can Geno continue to play out of his mind ? Well it’s like the Alamo . There’s no back door . Walker goes for 150. Geno 325 and 3 touches. Our d shows life . Seahawks 35- tards 24. 3-3

Our defense has regressed from last season, so I'm not sure how relevant our past performance is to this coming game. Although not spectacular, Murray has been playing relatively well, and he's only been sacked 7 times in 5 games, one of the lowest in the league for starting QB's. We've registered just 8 sacks in 5 games, one of the league's worst in that department. It's really hard to see us keeping the Cards under 30 unless someone finds a favorable matchup or we get some turnovers.

Like you have with us, the Cards (along with half the other teams in the league) can make an argument for being 4-1 had not it been for this, that, or the other thing. They've lost two games by one score.

The other thing to note about this game is that the kickoff time could change. It's currently scheduled for 1:05pm PT, but if the Mariners-Astros series goes to a Game 4, they'll have to move the Hawks-Cards kickoff back to 2:30pm to avoid a traffic nightmare as the M's first pitch would be at 12:07pm. We could know by late this afternoon if that's going to be necessary as if the M's are victorious, the series will go to at least a Game 4. If that happens, better take an Uber or transit if you don't want to park a couple miles away.

[Hawktawk]

I heard the guys on ESPN radio a few minutes ago and there is a bit of love for Seattle in this game with one host picking them to win outright and a couple of others to cover . I’m not sure what the impact of a late start might be. My predictions of Seattle scores have been pretty close last 3 games after blowing Frisco . I had us 31 vs a Atlanta . 37 versus Det which had to be one of the bigger point predictions that week, got razzed by River . Last week I think I had us 31. What I can’t get and won’t accept and predict is this god awful defense . Can it stay this bad ? I fear lots of QBs more then Murray . He’s Wilson ultra light . Quicker , shorter , less command of the field , zero leadership skills . Bad attitude when struggling. Makes stupid decisions like sliding too early and then spiking the hall on 3rd down last week. Hopefully the boys in the back end will Hoover up hus mistakes.

Walker is a huge question although I’ve seen enough to maybe say I know the answer . It was actually the first wildcat play that Walker got 4 yards on that was DOA and he slid laterally 10 yards in a second to somehow get something . The guy is really quick and jukey. A totally different style but maybe more successful if the line is struggling due to his ability to make people miss . I don’t think he’s as fast as penny was but he’s obviously fast enough . His squat stocky frame may or not protect him from injury . He had a hernia before even playing so let’s see. Looks like a brilliant move drafting him
. Time will tell . Go get ‘em Kenny!

[Aseahawkfan]

Wouldn't you know it that the week I call for a big score, it becomes a defensive struggle. I hope something happens in the second half.

[RiverDog]

Wouldn't you know it that the week I call for a big score, it becomes a defensive struggle. I hope something happens in the second half.

We're up 6-3 and our defense hasn't given up a touchdown, so I'm a happy camper at this point.

[RiverDog]

Boy, Kyler Murray looks horrible throwing the ball, Check Down Charlie.

I'm wondering if Arizona's being without their regular kicker is affecting their decision making. Twice they've gone for it on 4th down instead of attempting a very makeable FG.

[Aseahawkfan]

It was shown last year that Kyler sucks without his favorite WR.

[RiverDog]

It was shown last year that Kyler sucks without his favorite WR.

Yeah, DeAndre Hopkins. He's something like 8-2 with him, 3-7 without. It's hard to believe that the Cards hitched their wagon to him.

Then again, Geno isn't looking real hot today, either. But at least he's not losing the game for them like Murray is.

[Aseahawkfan]

Yeah, DeAndre Hopkins. He's something like 8-2 with him, 3-7 without. It's hard to believe that the Cards hitched their wagon to him.

Then again, Geno isn't looking real hot today, either. But at least he's not losing the game for them like Murray is.

Besides the Chiefs and the Bills, this whole season is bizarro world.

[RiverDog]

Besides the Chiefs and the Bills, this whole season is bizarro world.

Yeah, no kidding. I make a statement that the Niners are starting to pull away from the pack and then they roll over for the frigging Falcons. Jets beat the Packers in Lambeau by 3 scores, Tampa Bay loses to the Steelers...

[RiverDog]

Boy, Murray REALLY sucks. Hard to tell whether our defense is playing that well or if Murray is playing that badly.

[Aseahawkfan]

Boy, Murray REALLY sucks. Hard to tell whether our defense is playing that well or if Murray is playing that badly.

Yeah, he does. If he can't run, he looks pedestrian or worse.

[Aseahawkfan]

Woolen is just...damn. What a freakish CB.

[RiverDog]

It wasn't pretty, but a win's a win.

Arizona looks really bad, lame kicker, poor game management by wasting two timeouts in the 2nd half, inaccurate quarterback.

[Aseahawkfan]

It wasn't pretty, but a win's a win.

Arizona looks really bad, lame kicker, poor game management by wasting two timeouts in the 2nd half, inaccurate quarterback.

They are terrible. I thought we would win. Next week we have our first hard team other than Frisco when their defense is healthy. San Diego has injury issues too, but they are a legitimate playoff team. Should be a nice test.

We held serve at home against a division rival. Arizona looks worse than us.

Frisco's defense is starting to wear down with injuries. They are one Jimmie G injury away from the cellar.

Rams may be starting to improve and assert their dominance. We will meet them soon enough.

[NorthHawk]

The Rams might be heading into injury trouble, too.
There’s a suspicion that their LT has an Achilles injury, their best RB is wanting out, a foot injury for Donald and Kupp,
and others issues. As well, they aren’t playing very well.

[NorthHawk]

Fresco is hurting, too with their DL being hit hard.
This season looks like it’s going to be one of turmoil and upsets.

[RiverDog]

The Rams might be heading into injury trouble, too.
There’s a suspicion that their LT has an Achilles injury, their best RB is wanting out, a foot injury for Donald and Kupp,
and others issues. As well, they aren’t playing very well.

The Rams won by two TD's today, plus they have a bye next week to get everyone healthy.

[obiken]

If Zona would have had Hopkins they would have won, did you see the difference when he plays and when he doesnt.

[Aseahawkfan]

If Zona would have had Hopkins they would have won, did you see the difference when he plays and when he doesnt.

Yep. That's why I said Kyler owns Deandre his contract. Hopkins made him look like a legitimate franchise QB.

[Hawktawk]

We have no idea what would have happened with Hopkins in the game/ I give our defense credit for making Murray look the worst he has all year . Scrappy game for Seattle . Geno had a lunch pail hard hat game , knocked around quite a bit , line got roughed up , scuffled in the red zone , nice job with his feet , no huge mistakes . He did enough . Walker looks extremely promising . It’s a win baby .3-3 right in the thick of things .

[RiverDog]

We have no idea what would have happened with Hopkins in the game/ I give our defense credit for making Murray look the worst he has all year . Scrappy game for Seattle . Geno had a lunch pail hard hat game , knocked around quite a bit , line got roughed up , scuffled in the red zone , nice job with his feet , no huge mistakes . He did enough . Walker looks extremely promising . It’s a win baby .3-3 right in the thick of things .

The only two teams in the league that are more than two games in the loss column out of first place in their division are the Lions and Commanders, so virtually everyone is 'right in the thick of things'.

Agreed about Hopkins. IMO it wouldn't have made any difference. Even on many of his completions, Murray was off target, throwing balls high or behind receivers, reducing their yards after catch. No receiver is going to cause him to throw the ball better. Murray just plain sucked. No excuses.

Geno's halo tilted a little bit yesterday, took a couple of sacks he shouldn't have, wasn't as sharp as he's been in the past, couldn't get the ball to his wideouts (Metcalf had 2 catches in 7 targets, Lockett 2 in 5). But as HT pointed out, he didn't turn the ball over or make any horrendous mistakes, which was the difference in the game as Murray literally lost that game for the Cards.

We also have to acknowledge the absence of the Cards' kicker, Matt Prater. Kingsbury went for it on 4th down 3 times within very makable FG range, once on a 4th and 4 from the Hawk's 20 where a 38 yard FG would have given them the lead, and they missed an extra point.

[Hawktawk]

I was not aware Geno had a halo either . If that’s gonna be his bad game I’ll take it . They did a good job on Dk including getting away with grabbing serious cloth impeding DK on 2 routes . Also had what would have been a circus catch DK didn’t make . Might have been one avoidable sack but he avoided numerous others to burn AZ repeatedly with his legs all day . I bet Brady or Rodgers would hsve taken the win . Geno did enough . Seattle did enough . We can win the division .I

[RiverDog]

I was not aware Geno had a halo either . If that’s gonna be his bad game I’ll take it . They did a good job on Dk including getting away with grabbing serious cloth impeding DK on 2 routes . Also had what would have been a circus catch DK didn’t make . Might have been one avoidable sack but he avoided numerous others to burn AZ repeatedly with his legs all day . I bet Brady or Rodgers would hsve taken the win . Geno did enough . Seattle did enough . We can win the division .I

Geez, you're hyper sensitive. All I said was that Geno's halo tilted a little, an indication that I felt that his game was off just a bit. I never said that he played poorly or that his effort wasn't satisfactory.

[Hawktawk]

I said it was enough . Not his best at all but I give AZs defense some credit . Whoever was on Dk did an excellent job aided by a crew that let a lot go . The near pick he impedes DK going to the ball with cloth in both hands and uses Dk to pull himself across his face to break it up . The one on the goal line at the left side was a hold or PI . But refs called it pretty even and that guy took what they gave him. DK could step it up a notch . For 70 million he’s gotta figure out how to win those matchups .
Walker is exciting , baby Lynch and credit to Geno blocking downfield on the one big one. We gotta keep in mind we are 3-3 being significant dogs in most of them . A couple plays from 5-1.

[NorthHawk]

I don't think we are a real good team, but with good teams when the Offense falters the Defense picks them up and that happened yesterday.
It's a good step in their development and I hope it continues.
The OL struggled a little in pass protection and Geno was off on a number of throws, but that's football. I'm wondering if Defenses are starting to figure out how to attack our rookie Tackles. We'll see in the next few games.
Walker has great lateral moves and good forward speed and power. He might be pretty good by year end.

[Aseahawkfan]

Arizona sucks. We beat them at home. Beating a bad divisional opponent at home is expected. We're 3 and 3 through the easy part of our schedule. The league is definitely in a place where some games look harder than before and some easier. We're about to run into a real contender. We'll see how we do. I think this is the first star QB that is young and playing well we've played against.

[obiken]

Arizona sucks. We beat them at home. Beating a bad divisional opponent at home is expected. We're 3 and 3 through the easy part of our schedule. The league is definitely in a place where some games look harder than before and some easier. We're about to run into a real contender. We'll see how we do. I think this is the first star QB that is young and playing well we've played against.

I think you will end up being the right one AF, I predicted 4 wins, HT predicted 10, 8-9 might end up being spot on.

[Old but Slow]

There were some positives in this game defensively that gives me hope that the new defensive system will finally gain some shape. The return of Jefferson and Neal helped as I feel that they add leadership and savvy. The interior DL still struggles at times, but is good in the red zone, and they got decent play from guys like Poona, Mone, Harris, and Adams without the big guy, Al Woods. Remember, also, that our preseason projection had Sid Jones and Burns at starting outside corners, and we haven't even seen them.

Brooks played better this time, but Barton remains confused. Has Diggs lost a step? He is a puzzle this year. It is fortunate that we have an influx of promising young DBs. Woolen has been a revelation, Bryant has obvious talent, and even Michael Jackson (no glove) has filled in when we were shortest on bodies.

And, before we begin to lament our recent punting blips, we must take into account that we lost Ott to IR, and Tinker is the fill in and may not get the ball back there as quickly. Plus, of course, you have to block as well. The rusher on the botch blitzed right up the middle. Not good.

One comment on the offense, it was good to see Eskridge looking productive .

[Aseahawkfan]

I think you will end up being the right one AF, I predicted 4 wins, HT predicted 10, 8-9 might end up being spot on.

League is weird this year. Nothing would surprise me. Only teams I see that look strong are the Chiefs, Bills, and I guess the Eagles. But some teams look better than expected like the Giants, Cowboys, and Jets. Some look weaker like the Packers, Buccs, and Rams. But we been playing through the weakest part of our schedule, so not sure where we stand. But we're about to find out. We're hitting the part of our schedule where we face playoff teams and teams performing better than expected.

The Rams may be sucking, but do they suck bad enough and are they hurt enough to open the door for us to take them down? We will see.

[obiken]

League is weird this year. Nothing would surprise me. Only teams I see that look strong are the Chiefs, Bills, and I guess the Eagles. But some teams look better than expected like the Giants, Cowboys, and Jets. Some look weaker like the Packers, Buccs, and Rams. But we been playing through the weakest part of our schedule, so not sure where we stand. But we're about to find out. We're hitting the part of our schedule where we face playoff teams and teams performing better than expected.

The Rams may be sucking, but do they suck bad enough and are they hurt enough to open the door for us to take them down? We will see.

The Rams get some Oline and other pieces back in a few weeks, and IF they get C Mac from the Panthers that could be huge. The Bucs are the same way. Packers, Saints, Denver, etc, are all done.

[RiverDog]

League is weird this year. Nothing would surprise me. Only teams I see that look strong are the Chiefs, Bills, and I guess the Eagles. But some teams look better than expected like the Giants, Cowboys, and Jets. Some look weaker like the Packers, Buccs, and Rams. But we been playing through the weakest part of our schedule, so not sure where we stand. But we're about to find out. We're hitting the part of our schedule where we face playoff teams and teams performing better than expected.

The Rams may be sucking, but do they suck bad enough and are they hurt enough to open the door for us to take them down? We will see.

The Rams get some Oline and other pieces back in a few weeks, and IF they get C Mac from the Panthers that could be huge. The Bucs are the same way. Packers, Saints, Denver, etc, are all done.

Obi, no one is 'done' in Week 7, especially this year. The Packers, Saints, and Denver are all just two games out of first place with 11 games to play. Even the 1-4 Raiders and 1-5 Panthers are just two games back in the loss column. We're barely 1/3 through the season. There's still a lot of football to be played.

This has been a very crazy year. Every time you think a team is going to emerge from this pool of mediocrity, like I thought was happening with the Niners, they go out and lay an egg, and every time you write off a team, they suddenly look like SB champs as was the case with the Falcons last week.

[Hawktawk]

Wide open .especially in the NFC. At least after 6 games . Opportunity .

[NorthHawk]

Except for the top 4 or 5 teams, there's a lot of real bad football being played.
That leads to unexpected wins and losses along with some teams with better records than their talent would suggest.
It's an opportunity for teams that aren't so good to squeak into the playoffs and I would expect there to be some major (surprising) coaching changes should this football continue through to the end of the year.

[Hawktawk]

Hackett may not last a year . Unreal . Did you catch Brady cursing his linemen ? Wow . That game in Germany looks a bit better

[NorthHawk]

Hackett may not last a year . Unreal . Did you catch Brady cursing his linemen ? Wow . That game in Germany looks a bit better

Those things like Brady chewing out his OL can go a number of ways. It may light a fire or it might split the team - and maybe they just might ignore him.
We'll see in the next couple of games how they respond.

[Aseahawkfan]

I did not realize the Cardinals were so terrible they have only run 13 plays when leading. Their offense is terrible.