Penny's Injury

[RiverDog]

From Ian Rapoport:

RB Rashaad Penny suffered a fractured tibia, sources say, and he’ll have tests tomorrow to determine associated damage to see if surgery is necessary. As of now, it’s likely. Heart-breaking.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/157 ... _&ref_url=

If it is a fractured tibia and requires surgery, Penny is likely out for the season. Recovery time is 4-6 months.

Too bad, he was really looking good when he went down. But then again, most of us could see this coming. The guy is snake bit.

[Aseahawkfan]

Sad to see. Hopefully he managed his money well. Still earned more than most people will in a lifetime. But probably time to hang it up if another season ender. The NFL is too brutal for him. He doesn't need to keep ramming his head into a wall until he has long-term damage to his body that will make his older life not so good.

[RiverDog]

Sad to see. Hopefully he managed his money well. Still earned more than most people will in a lifetime. But probably time to hang it up if another season ender. The NFL is too brutal for him. He doesn't need to keep ramming his head into a wall until he has long-term damage to his body that will make his older life not so good.

I'm not the slightest bit concerned about Penny's financial future. He's set for life. But if this injury is as bad as is feared, it's likely the last time we'll see him in a Seahawk uniform. No one offered him a multi year contract last season, and he was on a one year prove it deal with us.

Too bad for him, though. Apparently, he was in tears when they took him from the field, so he knows he's done.

“He hurt his ankle. Seriously,” Pete Carroll said. His tone was as solemn as Seattle’s usually sunny coach ever is.

“We’ll see,” Carroll said. “I don’t want to make any statements because I really don’t know exactly, yet, until they get all the MRIs and stuff. But he’s got a bad, bad ankle. “He’s in trouble for getting back (this season).”

https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/n ... 85846.html

[Hawktawk]

From Ian Rapoport:

RB Rashaad Penny suffered a fractured tibia, sources say, and he’ll have tests tomorrow to determine associated damage to see if surgery is necessary. As of now, it’s likely. Heart-breaking.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/157 ... _&ref_url=

If it is a fractured tibia and requires surgery, Penny is likely out for the season. Recovery time is 4-6 months.

Too bad, he was really looking good when he went down. But then again, most of us could see this coming. The guy is snake bit.

I knew this was coming . I was with ya till you beat your chest about being right about an injury . What the F is snake bit? The man had 3 guys land on him . It sucks. As I said he clearly justified his selection in the first round and healthy he was one of the best in the business . Fortunately we have Walker although he’s had injury concerns as well
So I guess he’s snake bit too .
Seattle is snake bit with injuries every god damn year lately . Just not in the mood for this when we just lost the most dangerous back in the league .

[RiverDog]

From Ian Rapoport:

RB Rashaad Penny suffered a fractured tibia, sources say, and he’ll have tests tomorrow to determine associated damage to see if surgery is necessary. As of now, it’s likely. Heart-breaking.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/157 ... _&ref_url=

If it is a fractured tibia and requires surgery, Penny is likely out for the season. Recovery time is 4-6 months.

Too bad, he was really looking good when he went down. But then again, most of us could see this coming. The guy is snake bit.

I knew this was coming . I was with ya till you beat your chest about being right about an injury . What the F is snake bit? The man had 3 guys land on him . It sucks. As I said he clearly justified his selection in the first round and healthy he was one of the best in the business . Fortunately we have Walker although he’s had injury concerns as well
So I guess he’s snake bit too .
Seattle is snake bit with injuries every god damn year lately . Just not in the mood for this when we just lost the most dangerous back in the league .

Settle down, man!

Snake bit means that it's not necessarily his fault for getting hurt. It means that he's unlucky, the guy that always seems to get bit at random by the snake hiding in the grass.

No one is beating their chest. Whether it be Penny's fault, the guy that tackled him's fault, or the man in the moon's fault, we expected him to get hurt at some point during the season and sure enough, he did. It's that simple.

Penny plays the position that is the most prone to injury. It's one of the reasons why I don't like spending high draft picks on running backs. We just got through losing Chris Carson, now we've lost Penny.

[Hawktawk]

Penny is the unluckiest most talented back I ever saw. We’re unlucky he’s hurt. Over a period of almost 11 games starting he consistently averaged over 6 ypc with home run speed . Never missed a play to injury in that time . On his way to another great individual performance . F@#k it
Come on Kenny.

[Aseahawkfan]

I knew this was coming . I was with ya till you beat your chest about being right about an injury . What the F is snake bit? The man had 3 guys land on him . It sucks. As I said he clearly justified his selection in the first round and healthy he was one of the best in the business . Fortunately we have Walker although he’s had injury concerns as well
So I guess he’s snake bit too .
Seattle is snake bit with injuries every god damn year lately . Just not in the mood for this when we just lost the most dangerous back in the league .

You talk about this like you're some guy who cares? You literally reveling in Russell Wilson being hurt and playing badly. What can you think of a guy who doesn't want to admit when he's wrong, but only wants to gloat on his successes then make excuses for when he's wrong.

You were told this was likely to happen, not because anyone wanted to see this happen but because NFL level durability is a real trait and Penny doesn't have it.

Pete Carroll is at fault for the defense. Penny can't handle NFL level brutality.

You love gloating on how bad Russell is doing, bagging on him all the time, then one of your BS "I'm gloating about how right I am" is wrong and you're Mr. Excuses and Mr. whiny.

Just pathetic. Man up. You knew this could happen. He had a history of injuires.

Man up on Pete's defense. It sucks. They've been drafting badly on defense.

Stop making excuses. If you can brag about Geno and take shots at Wilson for sucking up to this point, then you can man up and admit Penny is injury prone and Pete is responsible for this crap defense that is costing us wins.

Riverdog may coddle you like some baby. You were wrong. And the the record isn't looking so great either with your 10 win prediction because of how bad this defense sucks.

They better get it turned around or you'll be one whining excuse making machine all year.

[Hawktawk]

Not even sure what the hell all of this is . It’s not a thread about defense or Carrol or Wilson sucking so bad he could suck start a Harley . And I’m not cheering Russels injury and have made it plain on the forum so stop lying again . Delighted he sucks though . As for my 10 we can only lose 4 more so let’s see but when you have the best QB in the division and one of the best in the league you always have a chance . If it doesn’t happen I don’t make excuses for being Wrong like all you Geno haters . I’m thankful Penny suffered only a bone injury and so hopefully he recovers and we get him cheap next year too . Godspeed Penny one of my favorite hawks . Get well soon .

[obiken]

Talky its time to call Penny a bust. I dont think AF is happy about it, its just the reality of the situation. Some guys cannot stay healthy, Anthony Simmons, Marcus Tubbs, and Clowney, just to name a few Seahawks. I am pissed at Pete for drafting him in the first place, instead of Chubb who was a way better prospect. I am pissed at Pete for giving up so much for Jamal Adams who is a box safety, I am pissed at Pete for so many bad drafts, trades, and cuts, I would cheer if HE left.

[I-5]

Broken tibia = career ender...what? Sorry I missed most of the game, was there another injury in addition to the tibia?

[obiken]

Broken tibia = career ender...what? Sorry I missed most of the game, was there another injury in addition to the tibia?

No 5, not in and of its self, but Penny has been a walking medical ward, its time to part ways.

[RiverDog]

Broken tibia = career ender...what? Sorry I missed most of the game, was there another injury in addition to the tibia?

If it requires surgery, which early indications are that it will, then it's a 4-6 month recovery, effectively ending his season. Penny was on a one year prove it contract, and given his injury history, it's doubtful that we'd bring him back if he's facing yet another long rehab. He'll be another Alex Collins.

[I-5]

OK I see. A leg injury is serious, but nothing like Carson's neck injury. Penny has proven he has exceptional talent, so if the price is right, I see no reason why Pete/Seahawks wouldn't want him around. That's a no brainer to me.

[RiverDog]

OK I see. A leg injury is serious, but nothing like Carson's neck injury. Penny has proven he has exceptional talent, so if the price is right, I see no reason why Pete/Seahawks wouldn't want him around. That's a no brainer to me.

Yeah, maybe. The variable is Penny and his mind set. He's by admission not a workout warrior and in previous seasons, has reported to camp out of shape and prone to muscle strains. Is he going to be motivated enough to put in the heavy work required to come back from another major injury? Will some other RB come along that the Hawks really like?

It's only a guess, but IMO we've seen the last of Rashaad Penny as a Seahawk.

[trents]

It's essentially the same injury that Tyler Lockett suffered what, about three years ago and it was not a career ending injury. But I agree, with Penny's contract being only one year and his injury propensity, the team will likely not renew. But, I'd say there are other teams who would pick him up even if not paying him big bucks. His talent is just too tempting if the price is right.

But even with Penny's out for the season, we are still in pretty good shape for running backs. Walker looks like he has homerun speed like Penny and Homer and Dallas are serviceable backs.

[Hawktawk]

Talky its time to call Penny a bust. I dont think AF is happy about it, its just the reality of the situation. Some guys cannot stay healthy, Anthony Simmons, Marcus Tubbs, and Clowney, just to name a few Seahawks. I am pissed at Pete for drafting him in the first place, instead of Chubb who was a way better prospect. I am pissed at Pete for giving up so much for Jamal Adams who is a box safety, I am pissed at Pete for so many bad drafts, trades, and cuts, I would cheer if HE left.

The profession of NFL player is injury prone . In an athlete in NFL condition it’s the luck of the draw . Derrick Henry missed 3/4 of the season last year . Jonathan Taylor missed Thursday but they still beat the awesome Wilson with an absolute Fidel
Statue . Chubb has missed time . If snake bit =unlucky I’m all over it . Penny is like Prosise lite. Far more dominant healthy but subject to far more devastating injuries . It’s tragic for Seattle unless Walker turns out to be the guy . He looked good but he’s been dinged up too . As for Pete I think it was smart bringing him back after the trade . We needed someone who knew their way around v Mac . And I give him credit this year despite the dreadful defense . He had the nuts to sign off on the biggest trade in team history which is a clear win for Seattle and a foundation for a great future . Our corners are potentially better than the Lob. Woolen is Sherman with world class speed . Cobe has made plays . Our issue is no mike . No middle. I still think we’re close . It can’t stay this bad . And really the biggest thing Pete did was stand behind Geno smith through an arrrest , a turbulent off-season seeing Wilson traded. This off-season we heard rumors of Jimmy G and Baker M and the clamors to start Lock since Geno was dink and dunk and had a 78 passer rating and 57% completion in preseason . But Pete stood by Geno . We may be 2-3 but we’ve averaged well over 30 per game last 3. It was a universal consensus on the broadcast that he’s playing at a high level . Regardless of what happens with Pete he’s proven to be an underrated evaluator of quarterbacks . Nobody else wanted Geno . I’m sure our offense is better then last year after 5 weeks with absolutely no defense . We will get better in defense . If we do it soon enough we could win next week then who knows .

[Aseahawkfan]

Yeah, maybe. The variable is Penny and his mind set. He's by admission not a workout warrior and in previous seasons, has reported to camp out of shape and prone to muscle strains. Is he going to be motivated enough to put in the heavy work required to come back from another major injury? Will some other RB come along that the Hawks really like?

It's only a guess, but IMO we've seen the last of Rashaad Penny as a Seahawk.

You and I both know a guy in the league for going on five years entering his sixth year after another injury recover is pretty clearly not able to work in the NFL.

Penny has never lacked talent. Penny's talent is why he was a first round pick. Whenever Penny has been able to run, he's shown elite talent.

Knock on Penny has always been he can't stay on the field. If Penny could have stayed on the field, he'd be a top 5 or 10 back getting paid like a top 5 or 10 back.

Everyone in Seattle was hoping this guy would come back and blow up like he showed in flashes throughout his career. But some guys just can't take the NFL beating. We've seen a lot of them over the years. I still remember Marcus Tubbs flashing elite DT talent. I was really pulling for that guy to recover, but his knees just couldn't handle the game.

That's just the nature of the business in the NFL. You cant' foresee durability at the NFL level. A player can be absolutely fine all through college, then reach the NFL and find out NFL brutality is whole other level.

Very few freak show durable guys like Lynch. Lynch was a tank for nearly all of his career. He had a body that could take a beating and a mentality that he was going to hurt the defense rather than the other way around. Very few guys have the physical toughness to match that mentality.

Fortunately for us, we're deep at RB. Ken Walker looks to be another great runner.

[obiken]

Which brings up a major point, all these guaranteed contracts for QB's is doable, along with LT's, and Edge pass rushers, thats one thing, but LB, Safeties Corners, RB's, etc is another matter. Its going to cause a rift, but I dont see the owners doing it, whether they collude or not.

[RiverDog]

Yeah, maybe. The variable is Penny and his mind set. He's by admission not a workout warrior and in previous seasons, has reported to camp out of shape and prone to muscle strains. Is he going to be motivated enough to put in the heavy work required to come back from another major injury? Will some other RB come along that the Hawks really like?

It's only a guess, but IMO we've seen the last of Rashaad Penny as a Seahawk.

You and I both know a guy in the league for going on five years entering his sixth year after another injury recover is pretty clearly not able to work in the NFL.

Penny has never lacked talent. Penny's talent is why he was a first round pick. Whenever Penny has been able to run, he's shown elite talent.

Knock on Penny has always been he can't stay on the field. If Penny could have stayed on the field, he'd be a top 5 or 10 back getting paid like a top 5 or 10 back.

Everyone in Seattle was hoping this guy would come back and blow up like he showed in flashes throughout his career. But some guys just can't take the NFL beating. We've seen a lot of them over the years. I still remember Marcus Tubbs flashing elite DT talent. I was really pulling for that guy to recover, but his knees just couldn't handle the game.

That's just the nature of the business in the NFL. You cant' foresee durability at the NFL level. A player can be absolutely fine all through college, then reach the NFL and find out NFL brutality is whole other level.

Very few freak show durable guys like Lynch. Lynch was a tank for nearly all of his career. He had a body that could take a beating and a mentality that he was going to hurt the defense rather than the other way around. Very few guys have the physical toughness to match that mentality.

Fortunately for us, we're deep at RB. Ken Walker looks to be another great runner.

There was more to raps on Penny besides his health. He is/was a two down back. Even yesterday, DJ Dallas was coming in for him on passing downs as Dallas is the better blocker and the better receiver. That's another reason why I don't like spending high draft picks on running backs.

But I do agree with you that he is likely done. The reason why we declined to pick up his 5th year option and even after a spectacular end of the season run only signed him to a one year prove it deal was because we were not confident that he could stay on the field for 13-16 games, and those concerns were just realized.

I'm hopeful that Walker will have a little better injury history than Penny and Carson did. He has a little stockier body type, so maybe that's an indication that he won't be so injury prone. We have bigger fish to fry besides having to burn draft picks on running backs every year.

[Hawktawk]

Walker missed the opener with a hernia so who knows . As for a Penny he reported to camp in the best shape of his life , played last 2 with a shoulder injury but played great . 1000 lbs lands on his ankle in a freak circumstance . Yep soft bones . He sucks. A bust . Yay Seahawks forum .

As for his replacement based on the last sack of Geno he’s not a 3 down player either . Regardless the offense is hardly the issue .
Not fun fact
From 2012 to 2014 lynch never missed a game . Over the next 8 seasons Seattle has had at least 1 running back suffer a season ending injury every year , some years 2 guys . Carson , penny , Rawls , Prosise . These were all great players not available in playoff years . For those hailing Lynches durability he was the first with his hernia in 2015 . He came back a shell of himself in the Carolina loss .

We are cursed at the position

[RiverDog]

Walker missed the opener with a hernia so who knows . As for a Penny he reported to camp in the best shape of his life , played last 2 with a shoulder injury but played great . 1000 lbs lands on his ankle in a freak circumstance . Yep soft bones . He sucks. A bust . Yay Seahawks forum .

As for his replacement based on the last sack of Geno he’s not a 3 down player either . Regardless the offense is hardly the issue .
Not fun fact
From 2012 to 2014 lynch never missed a game . Over the next 8 seasons Seattle has had at least 1 running back suffer a season ending injury every year , some years 2 guys . Carson , penny , Rawls , Prosise . These were all great players not available in playoff years . For those hailing Lynches durability he was the first with his hernia in 2015 . He came back a shell of himself in the Carolina loss .

We are cursed at the position

I did a little research on your assumption, and I couldn't find anything that would confirm or refute your suspicion. We definitely are not the most injured team as far as injuries reported weekly, not even in the top 10 either this season or last, but I couldn't find anything that would account for the length or severity of injuries each team sustained.

However, I don't think you're going to get a lot of sympathy from teams like the Niners, Jets, and Cowboys, teams that lost their starting quarterbacks in the first week of the season, or the Dolphins, who lost Tua for an undefined period of time. And don't take your case to the Steelers, who lost the reigning DPOY TJ Watt for at least 6 weeks, probably longer. Jacksonville lost 2021 first-round pick Travis Etienne for his entire rookie season last year. Heck, just last week, the Lions were without their top two offensive weapons when they played us.

Injuries are part of the game, and I see no evidence that we are experiencing injuries to key players at any higher rate than any other team in the league.

[Hawktawk]

The record is 8 straight years of Seahawks running backs suffering season ending injuries. Some years 2 guys . Not sure how it compares and I don’t care . It’s aggravating

[RiverDog]

The record is 8 straight years of Seahawks running backs suffering season ending injuries. Some years 2 guys . Not sure how it compares and I don’t care . It’s aggravating

Injuries are always aggravating. I remember one year during the Walrus era where we had so many wide receivers injured that we had to use our backup QB as a WR. Do you remember how many times Russell Okung got injured, how he twisted his ankle breaking the huddle? Or how about Curt Warner's injury?

It's the breaks of the game, and I don't see this season any better or worse than other times throughout our franchise's history.

[NorthHawk]

It's been corrected that Penny broke his Fibula, not Tibia so it's a bigger problem than it was first thought to be. Surgery is next for him.
He will be gone for the year, but Pete hinted at getting him back next year.
Sometimes players on a team just get injured and if the move to another team that streak ends. Okung was a little like that in that he had
some big injuries here but had many fewer on other teams even though he did miss a few games here and there. At least that's what I seem to remember...
He seems like a good guy, so I hope he can continue his career somewhere if not here.

[trents]

Well, now we'll see what we have in Walker as he'll be carrying the main load now. From what I've seen so far, Walker reminds me a lot of Carson but with a little more speed.

[RiverDog]

It's been corrected that Penny broke his Fibula, not Tibia so it's a bigger problem than it was first thought to be. Surgery is next for him.
He will be gone for the year, but Pete hinted at getting him back next year.
Sometimes players on a team just get injured and if the move to another team that streak ends. Okung was a little like that in that he had
some big injuries here but had many fewer on other teams even though he did miss a few games here and there. At least that's what I seem to remember...
He seems like a good guy, so I hope he can continue his career somewhere if not here.

Yeah, damn doctors and their medical terms.

As far as I can tell, they haven't made a decision on surgery, but it seems like a foregone conclusion that he will. I'm not sure which bone, the fibula or tibia, is the more serious to injure. The tibia is the larger bone and the major weight bearing, the second largest bone in the human body, so it would seem to this novice that it would be the more serious of the two bones to injure. Both have recovery times of 6 weeks to 4 months, likely longer for him to get it back into football shape.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... necessary/

[NorthHawk]

Fibula is the big bone.
I remember it as tibia is trivia. Not really true, but it helps me to keep things straight.

[I-5]

Football is a harsh game, and every player is battling injuries that we don’t always hear about. Injury history doesn’t predict future injuries, so we don’t know. We just know that when healthy, Penny is an outstanding back, so if he’s driven to play after recovering, I would a team will take interest, starting with the Seahawks. It’s only career ending if he retires imo. If Tyler Lockett can thrive after the same injury, why not?

[RiverDog]

Fibula is the big bone.
I remember it as tibia is trivia. Not really true, but it helps me to keep things straight.

Sorry, but you're mistaken:

The tibia (/ˈtɪbiə/; pl. tibiae /ˈtɪbii/ or tibias), also known as the shinbone or shankbone, is the larger, stronger, and anterior (frontal) of the two bones in the leg below the knee in vertebrates (the other being the fibula, behind and to the outside of the tibia); it connects the knee with the ankle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibia

[Aseahawkfan]

Football is a harsh game, and every player is battling injuries that we don’t always hear about. Injury history doesn’t predict future injuries, so we don’t know. We just know that when healthy, Penny is an outstanding back, so if he’s driven to play after recovering, I would a team will take interest, starting with the Seahawks. It’s only career ending if he retires imo. If Tyler Lockett can thrive after the same injury, why not?

Because Tyler Lockett thrived after the injury whereas Penny has had a serious injury twice going into year six of his career where he has not seen much of the field? When is the last time you saw a player on year six of their career after two major injuries suddenly have a great career come to life?

Penny should take his money, save it up, invest it, and move on. He can't handle the NFL.

[RiverDog]

Football is a harsh game, and every player is battling injuries that we don’t always hear about. Injury history doesn’t predict future injuries, so we don’t know. We just know that when healthy, Penny is an outstanding back, so if he’s driven to play after recovering, I would a team will take interest, starting with the Seahawks. It’s only career ending if he retires imo. If Tyler Lockett can thrive after the same injury, why not?

Lockett had just the one major injury. This will be Penny's 2nd within 4 years.

It all depends on his mental state. He had a long recovery from a knee injury a couple years ago, so is he going to be mentally strong enough to go through with it again? Or will he just say F-it, I've made enough money in this game, I'm going on to another stage of my life.

In the past, Penny has come to camp overweight and out of shape, but this past season, he reported in very good shape, so who knows.

[RiverDog]

It's official. Pete just said Penny has a broken fibula:

Rashaad Penny has a broken fibula and his season is over, Pete Carroll says on @SeattleSports

https://twitter.com/MikeDugar/status/15 ... _&ref_url=