Geno in review

[c_hawkbob]

Geno having a hell of a game so far today!

[Stream Hawk]

This was his best game of the year. Complete control and throwing dimes. Still can’t rock deep ball, of course. But yeah, eating my words & he finally closed out a game.

[c_hawkbob]

Yeah, gotta give HT some props here, both Geno and Penny, the two guys he has been championing the hardest, looked well worthy of his (and our) adulation today!

[Stream Hawk]

Nah, not giving HT props on Geno;) I will give him props on Penny, myself too! I have always been on the Penny train!

[Aseahawkfan]

Nothing like to a garbage defense to make you feel better. I can't believe we almost lost, but hey, they pulled it off.

Geno did a good job. Penny got on track. And Ken Walker the 3rd did well too. So did the Lions offense. They looked amazing too. A real battle of offensive powerhouses.

[Hawktawk]

Geno is playing the game about as well as it can be played . We didn’t punt . It was the first time in the history of the Seattle Seahawks we scored at least 10 points in each quarter . Geno is one of 3 men in the super bowl era to start a season with 4 straight games over 75 % completion . He killed them with his legs and his mind and his situational check downs on both Penny TDs and several other plays . He’s in complete command but he see he still has critics . Wyman said during the broadcast “ he looked like he’s been starting 10 years.
Eat your crow or choke on it . I don’t care .

[obiken]

Geno is playing the game about as well as it can be played . We didn’t punt . It was the first time in the history of the Seattle Seahawks we scored at least 10 points in each quarter . Geno is one of 3 men in the super bowl era to start a season with 4 straight games over 75 % completion . He killed them with his legs and his mind and his situational check downs on both Penny TDs and several other plays . He’s in complete command but he see he still has critics . Wyman said during the broadcast “ he looked like he’s been starting 10 years.
Eat your crow or choke on it . I don’t care .

It doesnt matter, this defense is warmed over dog food, and so was theirs. We are not going anywhere.

[Stream Hawk]

Geno is playing the game about as well as it can be played . We didn’t punt . It was the first time in the history of the Seattle Seahawks we scored at least 10 points in each quarter . Geno is one of 3 men in the super bowl era to start a season with 4 straight games over 75 % completion . He killed them with his legs and his mind and his situational check downs on both Penny TDs and several other plays . He’s in complete command but he see he still has critics . Wyman said during the broadcast “ he looked like he’s been starting 10 years.
Eat your crow or choke on it . I don’t care .

I can honestly say Geno is doing a perfect job so far. Also extremely impressed with the Oline. It’s hilarious Denver fans are bitching about their oline and saying that’s the reason Russell isn’t doing as good as Geno. Holy crap the irony!

[Aseahawkfan]

Dessert first world problems. I can honestly say Geno is doing a perfect job so far. Also extremely impressed with the Oline. It’s hilarious Denver fans are bitching about their oline and saying that’s the reason Russell isn’t doing as good as Geno. Holy crap the irony!

Those two tackles we picked up are unreal for first year rooks.

And Tariq Woolen may turn out better than Sherm.

Not real high on Mafe yet or the rest of the defense, but our O-line looks to have bookends for quite some time. RBs look solid. Receivers look good.

We really need to draft some quality D-line and get the defense going and maybe this team can get somewhere.

Still not sold on 2nd half Geno, but 1st half Geno is doing a hell of a job. I'm not sure if second half Geno is on Pete or opposing team adjustments.

I'm not surprised about Denver at all. They aren't a very good team. And they may have lost their best RB today and one of their best D-line players in Randy Gregory. Their O-line is garbage.

I am not going to get too excited off playing Detroit. Everyone that has played Detroit looks great on offense. They are giving up 31 points a game. Detroit is a terrible team, one of the worst in the league. It would have been an embarrassment for Seattle to lose to them.

We got the Saints in New Orleans and Arizona at home, two winnable games, but tougher.

Then we got the Chargers. Not even going to predict that game. But if we can beat the Chargers, that's a real playoff contender win then.

[trents]

I wonder if Russ Wilson is having regrets yet about dissing the Hawks and signing with the Broncs?

[obiken]

I wonder if Russ Wilson is having regrets yet about dissing the Hawks and signing with the Broncs?

He was traded to the Broncos! geez

[Aseahawkfan]

I wonder if Russ Wilson is having regrets yet about dissing the Hawks and signing with the Broncs?

Unless he sees the Seahawks doing well against more than the Lions, I'm not sure he cares.

I imagine this is how it's going to be all season. When we win, everyone's acting like we got it all turned around even if it was against an absolute garbage team like Detroit.

Russ is in Denver now getting paid a huge, guaranteed contract. If he's losing in Denver and getting paid versus losing in Seattle means nothing to him. Seattle isn't a playoff contender, neither is Denver. But he signed a huge contract in Denver he can use to buy plenty of tissues if he does sit in a dark room regretting the trade.

[I-5]

The irony of Wilson saying how glad he was to go to a team that wasn’t all on his shoulders after the way the Broncos played today vs the Seahawks. I’m not surprised by what Geno is doing. Credit to Waldron as well, and to Pete for hopefully staying out of the way.

[mykc14]

Good game Geno. Too bad our defense sucks so we can't see if Geno can actually be the guy for us. I would love if Geno can become the guy who can win us a game playing Peteball, but we won't know until our defense improves. Our defense is laughable and the Lions were missing their top offensive weapon.

[Aseahawkfan]

First half Geno can be the guy. Second half Geno is playing not to lose or being handcuffed by Pete. I'm not sure which.

Either way, Geno is looking good against teams he should look good against and not the main reason for the loss against teams like the 49ers. You can't ask much more of him.

I really wish Pete would not go super conservative in the second half of games. Let Geno throw some more and see what happens.

[I-5]

I like the amount of running we did this game. Penny has shown that he gets better as the carries increase. His speed and power is deceptive!

[Hawktawk]

First half Geno can be the guy. Second half Geno is playing not to lose or being handcuffed by Pete. I'm not sure which.
Either way, Geno is looking good against teams he should look good against and not the main reason for the loss against teams like the 49ers. You can't ask much more of him.

I really wish Pete would not go super conservative in the second half of games. Let Geno throw some more and see what happens.

It’s the first time in team history we scored at least 10 points each quarter . Not sure what you mean by first half second half ? We didn’t punt .
We have no defense for 4 quarters . Geno directed an OFFENSE that won an all out offensive war , shootout on steroids . Is the goal for Geno now a TD pass every drive ? I thought he sucks It was my understanding listening to the post game show that Geno smith audibled the team to both Penny touchdown runs . Also he checked into a couple of the pass plays we hit based on pre snap reads. Ran one in standing up himself , completely fearless under pressure , Wyman talked about it all day , how solid he was delivering the ball knowing he was going to get hit . Postgame he sounded intelligent and articulate , humble , praising his teammates .
Frankly he’s exceeded my expectations on a team with zero defense and little run game till now . But now look out . Say hello to another of fan boy HTs players . Mr Rashaad Penny .If they can be a 30 plus point offense and I’ve always thought they could we don’t need the best defense . Just some defense .

[NorthHawk]

We played against the worst scoring Defense in the league and still almost lost.
It's not like we played against a championship Defense.

[Aseahawkfan]

We played against the worst scoring Defense in the league and still almost lost.
It's not like we played against a championship Defense.

That's how it is going to be all season. When we win, everything is turned around and great again. When we lose, everything is doom and gloom. Nature of fandom.

I had this game marked as a win. So nothing changes for me. If we had lost to Detroit, it would have been embarrassing.

[Hawktawk]

We scored more points than any team in any game this year . On 9 drives . That includes the other 3 teams that got to play Detroit . The excuses for Geno and the offense playing great are getting pretty lame .

We have a 30 plus ppg offense potentially . Like Knox said “Potential will get you beat “. But if they are somewhere between Atlanta and Detroit offensively and hold it together while the defense grows up look out . This year . Future could be now .

[RiverDog]

Comments from the game:

Best offensive performance of the season BY FAR. Outside of a few boners, like the play where he got called for intentional grounding, Geno played an excellent game, making good decisions and protecting the ball. Even though they weren't successful, I was glad to see them taking a few deep shots, something they haven't done much of this season. We never punted during the entire game.

Defense is another story. We continue to be plagued by missed tackles. We have nearly a nonexistent pass rush and our linebackers are a major disappointment. Detroit punted just once during the game.

Statistically, it was a virtual dead heat, with 27 first downs each and both offenses racking up over 500 yards of total offense. The big difference in the game was the pick 6 to start the 2nd half. Both teams committed a bunch of penalties. Detroit fans, in particular, were very frustrated with the officiating. There was a play that they shut down early for some unknown reason that wiped out a big play for the Lions. It took them forever and a day to resolve it.

The game was a "scorigami", a final score that has never occurred in the history of the game.

The game has not changed my overall expectation for the season. We beat a team that is in the bottom 1/4 of the league. Detroit's defense is horribly inept, worse than ours and likely the worst in the league. It was quite possibly the weakest team on our schedule.

[Hawktawk]

Lol
And you were there . Still meh. I’d like to know the fan who thought we could give up 45 and win anything ever other than Russ in his tip top prime .

[Aseahawkfan]

Comments from the game:

Best offensive performance of the season BY FAR. Outside of a few boners, like the play where he got called for intentional grounding, Geno played an excellent game, making good decisions and protecting the ball. Even though they weren't successful, I was glad to see them taking a few deep shots, something they haven't done much of this season. We never punted during the entire game.

Defense is another story. We continue to be plagued by missed tackles. We have nearly a nonexistent pass rush and our linebackers are a major disappointment. Detroit punted just once during the game.

Statistically, it was a virtual dead heat, with 27 first downs each and both offenses racking up over 500 yards of total offense. The big difference in the game was the pick 6 to start the 2nd half. Both teams committed a bunch of penalties. Detroit fans, in particular, were very frustrated with the officiating. There was a play that they shut down early for some unknown reason that wiped out a big play for the Lions. It took them forever and a day to resolve it.

The game was a "scorigami", a final score that has never occurred in the history of the game.

The game has not changed my overall expectation for the season. We beat a team that is in the bottom 1/4 of the league. Detroit's defense is horribly inept, worse than ours and likely the worst in the league. It was quite possibly the weakest team on our schedule.

Gonna be like Jekyll and Hyde all season for fan reactions.

Detroit sucks. But we did well on offense against a sucky team. Everyone forgets the 0 points on offense against San Francisco after a game like this.

I don't have a good read on New Orleans. Winnable game, but I hear their defense is fairly good. But they seem in rebuild mode like Seattle, so should be a coin flip for who wins.

[Hawktawk]

We have a huge edge on the saints at QB. Over dalton , yeah .

[Old but Slow]

A little off topic, but the NFL site just listed the 5 fastest players this week. Penny was #2, and got beat out by some DB named Woolen.

[I-5]

We won't gain 555 and score 48 again, but Waldron's play designs as executed by Geno and this improved O line and rest of offense looks to me like it can succeed against better defenses, too. We'll know the answer pretty soon.

[RiverDog]

We have a huge edge on the saints at QB. Over dalton , yeah .

A huge advantage? Andy Dalton has played a lot of football. Last weekend, in his first appearance as a Saint and against a defense that was much, much stouter than what we saw last weekend, he put up some very respectable numbers, 20-28, 71.4%, 1 TD, 0 INT, in a very narrow loss, virtually by one pinball bounce off a bumper, to the Vikings. I would not make an assumption like that.

[NorthHawk]

We won't gain 555 and score 48 again, but Waldron's play designs as executed by Geno and this improved O line and rest of offense looks to me like it can succeed against better defenses, too. We'll know the answer pretty soon.

It seems Pete has given Waldron more room to actually use some concepts from today's football.
We are seeing some pre snap motion, throws to the RB's and some pressure on the edges of the DL instead of just up the middle.
It's too bad we didn't incorporate some of these concepts back when we had a real chance at another championship.

[Hawktawk]

Geno is well outplaying previous dude who is in his new whiz bang offense . “ whatever Russ wants “

I heard a Geno quote” I don’t have to play hero ball , I don’t have to make every play.”

Previous guy ran his own rat ball offense no matter who was in charge . It worked 8.5 years but right now he’s hurting his HOF chances . Becoming a butt of jokes .

I’ve seen more balls in the seam , between the hashes , tight nfl open throws, to tight ends but still feeding the big boys then most games the last few years .

Stop blaming Russels issues on Pete and the offense . It’s the 3rd time in team history we had 550 yards of total offense and the first time in the history of our team we didn’t punt . And yet ……don’t get some fans at all .

[RiverDog]

Geno is well outplaying previous dude who is in his new whiz bang offense . “ whatever Russ wants “

I heard a Geno quote” I don’t have to play hero ball , I don’t have to make every play.”

Previous guy ran his own rat ball offense no matter who was in charge . It worked 8.5 years but right now he’s hurting his HOF chances . Becoming a butt of jokes .

I’ve seen more balls in the seam , between the hashes , tight nfl open throws, to tight ends but still feeding the big boys then most games the last few years .

Stop blaming Russels issues on Pete and the offense . It’s the 3rd time in team history we had 550 yards of total offense and the first time in the history of our team we didn’t punt . And yet ……don’t get some fans at all .

I'm actually at least partially in agreement with you. Russell is getting off to a very slow start, and the fans in Denver are getting antsy. If he doesn't get his chit together real soon, they're going to be out for blood. That franchise has waited a long time for a legitimate franchise QB, the Donkeys gave up a King's ransom, and the media has hyped the hell out of them, giving them an 8th-12th in power rankings even after they lost their opener. Russell was supposed to lead them into Super Bowl contention, and they just got through losing to the only winless team in the league and a division rival in Prime Time. You can't turn the TV from one sports channel to another without seeing a graphic comparing Russell's numbers to Geno's.

But then, again, they are just like us, 2-2, but unlike us, they beat the Niners, who looked awfully good last night vs. the Rams.

[Hawktawk]

If Geno had started for that Niner team they may well have won. Russ went 3 and out 8 times and escaped with 11 points ? Jimmy G ran out of the end zone and turned it it over to end the game while the midget got a hell of a lot luckier then we did beating them . After that game I asked the rhetorical question. Would you trade 22 Geno for 22 Jimmy? Mayfield ?

Russ is in deep trouble in Denver . He’s stabilized his game somewhat but the players are dropping like flies . It doesn’t help when his replacement is currently the 5th in total qbr and has the second highest passer rating right behind Tua and ahead of Pat Mahomes . Don’t misunderstand he ain’t Pat Mahomes . But for 3.5 million he’s the biggest bargain in the league

But here’s Russ with the #21 total QbR, 13th passer rating and a completion % of 61.1 %. It ain’t good . All I got to say is roflmao . I’ve been right on the money on this so far .

[RiverDog]

If Geno had started for that Niner team they may well have won. Russ went 3 and out 8 times and escaped with 11 points ? Jimmy G ran out of the end zone and turned it it over to end the game while the midget got a hell of a lot luckier then we did beating them . After that game I asked the rhetorical question. Would you trade 22 Geno for 22 Jimmy? Mayfield ?

Russ is in deep trouble in Denver . He’s stabilized his game somewhat but the players are dropping like flies . It doesn’t help when his replacement is currently the 5th in total qbr and has the second highest passer rating right behind Tua and ahead of Pat Mahomes . Don’t misunderstand he ain’t Pat Mahomes . But for 3.5 million he’s the biggest bargain in the league

But here’s Russ with the #21 total QbR, 13th passer rating and a completion % of 61.1 %. It ain’t good . All I got to say is roflmao . I’ve been right on the money on this so far .

If Brady would have started for that Niner team they may well have won. What was that saying about aunts and balls?

I agree with you about Russell. If he doesn't get it turned around pronto, they're going to be hanging effigies of him outside the stadium. Thursday's game is critical. It's another Prime Time game, 3 in their first 5, and it's at home. He has to perform, and the Broncos have to win just for his and Hackett's sake. Those folks are pissed. The media has been pumping both Russell and the Broncos and raised their expectations to an unreasonable level. The reality is that they are a marginal playoff contender, a .500ish team in a tough division. It doesn't matter if half the offense suffers season ending injuries. The fans are going to blame Russell and Hackett.

It's easier to create a bad image than it is to change it to a good one, and the image of them losing that opener against us in the way they did has left a very bitter taste in their mouths. The fans gave them zero credit for beating one of the better teams in the league. All they remember is that loss to us and their loss last Sunday to the Raiders.

[Aseahawkfan]

If Brady would have started for that Niner team they may well have won. What was that saying about aunts and balls?

I agree with you about Russell. If he doesn't get it turned around pronto, they're going to be hanging effigies of him outside the stadium. Thursday's game is critical. It's another Prime Time game, 3 in their first 5, and it's at home. He has to perform, and the Broncos have to win just for his and Hackett's sake. Those folks are pissed. The media has been pumping both Russell and the Broncos and raised their expectations to an unreasonable level. The reality is that they are a marginal playoff contender, a .500ish team in a tough division. It doesn't matter if half the offense suffers season ending injuries. The fans are going to blame Russell and Hackett. It's easier to create a bad image than it is to change it to a good one, and the image of them losing that opener against us in the way they did has left a very bitter taste in their mouths.

We want Denver to collapse this year. Then we don't care.

No one should be concerned about Russell one way or the other. The man has tens of millions of dollars. Signed a multimillion guaranteed contract. He's already succeeded beyond most people's wildest dreams. He's set for life. The only concern for us at this point is Denver collapsing and giving us a top 5 pick as one last, "Thank you for the great times Seattle."

As far as the Seahawks go, they need to start worrying about beating playoff level teams and Pete needs to be highly concerned about his embarrassing defense for a guy known as a top defensive coach. I have a buddy who doesn't want to admit that Pete is sucking right now, but given Pete's expertise the defense sucking this bad right now is seriously concerning. I've never seen a Pete Carroll defense this bad and he needs to get it turned around.

Geno playing well for a year or two is a "Gee, that's nice" situation that won't matter in a few years.

[RiverDog]

If Brady would have started for that Niner team they may well have won. What was that saying about aunts and balls?

I agree with you about Russell. If he doesn't get it turned around pronto, they're going to be hanging effigies of him outside the stadium. Thursday's game is critical. It's another Prime Time game, 3 in their first 5, and it's at home. He has to perform, and the Broncos have to win just for his and Hackett's sake. Those folks are pissed. The media has been pumping both Russell and the Broncos and raised their expectations to an unreasonable level. The reality is that they are a marginal playoff contender, a .500ish team in a tough division. It doesn't matter if half the offense suffers season ending injuries. The fans are going to blame Russell and Hackett. It's easier to create a bad image than it is to change it to a good one, and the image of them losing that opener against us in the way they did has left a very bitter taste in their mouths.

We want Denver to collapse this year. Then we don't care.

No one should be concerned about Russell one way or the other. The man has tens of millions of dollars. Signed a multimillion guaranteed contract. He's already succeeded beyond most people's wildest dreams. He's set for life. The only concern for us at this point is Denver collapsing and giving us a top 5 pick as one last, "Thank you for the great times Seattle."

Yuppers. I'll always appreciate Russell for his part in what was the best period of Seahawk football in franchise history and acknowledge him as a great human being and stand up guy, but outside of that, I couldn't give a crap what he does on some other team or if he makes the HOF. He's just another overpaid player that has lost touch with his roots.

As far as the Seahawks go, they need to start worrying about beating playoff level teams and Pete needs to be highly concerned about his embarrassing defense for a guy known as a top defensive coach. I have a buddy who doesn't want to admit that Pete is sucking right now, but given Pete's expertise the defense sucking this bad right now is seriously concerning. I've never seen a Pete Carroll defense this bad and he needs to get it turned around.

Geno playing well for a year or two is a "Gee, that's nice" situation that won't matter in a few years.

Again, I agree. Geno is playing Pete Ball, and that requires a top 5 defense. Right now, we're not even top 30. What a frigging embarrassment.

[Hawktawk]

Pete ball scored 65 points last 2 games with no defense which limits possessions for our offense which is how you score is possessing the ball. I keep saying it and nobody seems to be able to understand how impressive our offense was last 2 games .

Pete ball can score as much as anybodys offense especially when you have a qb who will check to a man being called “ the most dangerous back in the nfl”on 3rd and 18 . It’s stupendous what Geno and the offense have done with no defense . If we get a defense that even averages low 20 ppg we will win 10 easy .

[Aseahawkfan]

I also want to see how Geno does around game 8 when opponents have more film. We are running a different offense with Geno than we ran with Russ. Part of what we're seeing are teams unprepared for the plays we run with Geno. It seems a lot of teams are getting film in the first half and shoring up the defense in the second half, which may be why we see Geno fall off in the second half.

But about game 8, they will have pretty good film on Geno and our offense. They will be looking out more for the TEs and routes. Though a quality team seems to shut us down anyway.

[RiverDog]

I also want to see how Geno does around game 8 when opponents have more film. We are running a different offense with Geno than we ran with Russ. Part of what we're seeing are teams unprepared for the plays we run with Geno. It seems a lot of teams are getting film in the first half and shoring up the defense in the second half, which may be why we see Geno fall off in the second half.

But about game 8, they will have pretty good film on Geno and our offense. They will be looking out more for the TEs and routes. Though a quality team seems to shut us down anyway.

It's not just the specific offense that teams will game plan against, it's the quarterback that defenses will examine once they've had sufficient film.
We all remember how Russell used to be so effective pivoting and doing that reverse spin of his. But defenses got wise to it, and DE's started taking a little wider rush, and sure enough, Russell would spin himself right into a sack. That's one of the things that contributes to the 'sophomore slump' in many quarterbacks.

[Hawktawk]

It’s 7 games . Record is 3 and 4 but it’s really about the only blemish on the Geno Smith that never existed before he walked on the field when the guy who never gets hurt did. We will get a good yardstick this Sunday because he will get a rematch with the only team that held him under 70% completion in those 7 starts . Yeah there was the 9ers but still 195 passing yards on 80% completion, passer rating of 81. Team wide ass kicking . Of course taking the ball out of the hottest qb on the planets hands on the 13 to let Dee Jay throw a pick so shutout has a serious asterisk.

But you look at the Suoer bowl champ with his huge new deal , 9 points , 7 sacks lost fumble pick 6.66% completion . 71 passer rating .

I give credit to Geno for the poise he showed vs the 9ers . Especially when Waldron inexplicably abandoned any metric on the planet taking the ball away after a beautiful dime to the 13 and got hit in the mouth doing it . He was sacked twice and laid out 9 times . Lost in all the other statistics is the fact we are on a pace for the lowest sack total since before you know who . Mr got himself hit too much . There’s not a lot of film of Geno running backwards , just making correct reads and getting the ball out and completing it almost 80% of the time .
Like Wyman said we have a sample now. Damn near half a year . I can’t believe guys as savvy as you think it’s lack of film on the guy ? Really ? It’s not just about wins. It’s about the performance of the QB. Against good teams with good to great defenses . It’s who Geno is now . This will be a good test . Geno hit a bomb to Dk last year but was held to 10 points (2 missed field goals ) in a 13-10 loss . 60% completion . If he’s gonna hit a speed bump this might be it. Let’s see reality . Right now he playing at a historic record setting pace . Geno Smith

[NorthHawk]

Pete ball scored 65 points last 2 games with no defense which limits possessions for our offense which is how you score is possessing the ball. I keep saying it and nobody seems to be able to understand how impressive our offense was last 2 games .

Pete ball can score as much as anybodys offense especially when you have a qb who will check to a man being called “ the most dangerous back in the nfl”on 3rd and 18 . It’s stupendous what Geno and the offense have done with no defense . If we get a defense that even averages low 20 ppg we will win 10 easy .

This isn't Peteball that we've known the last decade. He let the Offense open up the first 5 games in 2020 when the Defense fell on its face and it put up some real good numbers against some legitimate defenses.
Then he pulled back the reins at the first sign of trouble.
I've been calling for a more open Offense since 2012 or thereabouts and I hope it continues to progress, but the test will be when the Offense has a bad game and if Pete again pulls it back to his old style of play like
he did a couple of years ago.

[Hawktawk]

Geno just named NFC offensive player of the week . Right on Geno.
And it’s the same offense . Just being run correctly . There are some designed runs between the tackies for Geno like they do with Josh Allen that were not possible before . Geno is just running the offense very well . Hard to stop a guy completing 77 % and killing defenses with his audibles. Like both Penny TDs .
I’m beginning to see some analysts suggest Seattle may need to make a decision whether to tear up his deal and try to get him under contract beyond this season . I’m not even quite there yet but still lol.