Stream Hawk wrote:To sum up Geno Smith. He is not a clutch quarterback. 0-2 clutch moments this year. Not clutch last year. That’s what we need in our dinosaur coach’s scheme.
Stream Hawk wrote:To sum up Geno Smith. He is not a clutch quarterback. 0-2 clutch moments this year. Not clutch last year. That’s what we need in our dinosaur coach’s scheme.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Geno is doing what backups do. Just the rest of our team isn't good enough to make that work.
Hawktawk wrote:Whatever . Today sucked . Front to back . Happy Fing birthday . And yeah it’s all Genos fault . F it.
Hawktawk wrote:Whatever . Today sucked . Front to back . Happy Fing birthday . And yeah it’s all Genos fault . F it.
Hawktawk wrote:Whatever . Today sucked . Front to back . Happy Fing birthday . And yeah it’s all Genos fault . F it.
Hawktawk wrote:Gweno completed 35-44 for 325 yards and 2 TDs and a desperation heave pick at the end. .99 rating .
The team may el foldo but that was more offense than the entire night game. First 300 plus passing game as a Seahawk. Threw some beautiful passes despite poor protection once again.
Its old listening to people hammer on Geno. You're the QB, fine, it comes with the territory.
Geno played well enough to win the game on most football teams. It wasn't surprising the run game was better and so Geno was much better. Hes hardly been the biggest problem. Our last drive we were screwed by quick tacky tack flags again robbing us of big plays. Coach chose to kick on 4th and 2 from the 8 after going on 4th and 2 from the 42 on the same drive. Who knows, its a broken record. its not enough to win a very winnable game.
The elephant in the living room is the play of the defense which is absolutely nauseating to watch, pisses me off actually. You cannot build momentum if every hard fought score is met by a track meet the other direction. It may truly be a long year. has been already, Peyton manning would struggle with this defense. Got to be near dead last.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Geno is pretty much what you expect from a quality backup. If your team around him isn't good enough to keep an opponent to under 20 points or so, you're going to lose a lot of games. You saw why Geno isn't a franchise QB when he tried to step it up and win in the fourth quarter. He just doesn't have that ability to elevate and close out a drive like the franchise Qbs do. If your behind and you're relying on Geno to win the game for you, you're going to lose more often than not. His production also stays in a sort of middling range and very few defenses fear their ability to pass so they just stack for the run, then occasionally focus on pass defense to shut them down.
Today Geno was playing against a backup, not a franchise QB. Marcus Mariota is basically Geno. Lots of up and down play and usually can't close out games.
With our defense as bad as they are right now, we're not able to win with a Geno type of QB. Atlanta's defense basically beat us. That's damn sad for a defensive guru head coach.
Hawktawk wrote:Again . Geno isn’t the problem . He’s not dynamic enough to carry the team but he was the # 4 passer in the league yesterday . He’s just a favorite target for most on this forum . Most pundits gave him a decent grade on the performance . QBs get too much credit when they win and too much blame when we lose with the #4 qb performance in the league .
He was the better qb on the field in every statistical category except rushing . It’s a dreadful defense that’s the biggest problem by far with situational offensive play calling a close second . Ok 1-2 bring on Detroit . Soon to be 1-3 if we can’t stop anyone and I mean anyone .
Hawktawk wrote: He’s just a favorite target for most on this forum .
Hawktawk wrote:Again . Geno isn’t the problem . He’s not dynamic enough to carry the team but he was the # 4 passer in the league yesterday . He’s just a favorite target for most on this forum . Most pundits gave him a decent grade on the performance . QBs get too much credit when they win and too much blame when we lose with the #4 qb performance in the league .
He was the better qb on the field in every statistical category except rushing . It’s a dreadful defense that’s the biggest problem by far with situational offensive play calling a close second . Ok 1-2 bring on Detroit . Soon to be 1-3 if we can’t stop anyone and I mean anyone .
NorthHawk wrote:
Good QBs can drag their team to a higher level on a regular basis .
Geno can't. Just look at how Wilson took it into his own hands and produced when they needed it. That's what top QBs do and Geno doesn't.
It's that simple.
Hawktawk wrote: He’s just a favorite target for most on this forum .
mykc14 wrote:The only reason he is really mentioned anymore is somebody responding to you. Almost all of us feel like he is performing close to how we thought he would, if not slightly better. The NFL has turned into a league where most games are won or lost in the 4th quarter. Good QBs elevate their teams to a win more often than not. Geno isn't that guy. I do agree that our defense is a huge problem. I was hoping we would draft early to get our next franchise QB but maybe we should looking at a dominant DE/DT, because our defense is that bad. Here's to continuing to hope the Broncos lose! I'm almost close to hoping we lose as well. Our defense is terrible.
Hawktawk wrote:Geno was a SB Nation “ stud “ for Seattle yesterday . He’s played well for the overwhelming most part . The pundits are squarely with me this week . Maybe you all should admit the guy who scored the most against Denver by far is a starter . He looked quite a bit better against them than Jimmy G .
He’s not been the problem . So whatever you argumentative Geno haters . 325 with 2 touches he still sucks unless he can carry a team with no defense . If he throws 4 he will get no credit from you but you’re the only ones . You just like to argue
Hawktawk wrote:Geno was a SB Nation “ stud “ for Seattle yesterday . He’s played well for the overwhelming most part . The pundits are squarely with me this week . Maybe you all should admit the guy who scored the most against Denver by far is a starter . He looked quite a bit better against them than Jimmy G .
He’s not been the problem . So whatever you argumentative Geno haters . 325 with 2 touches he still sucks unless he can carry a team with no defense . If he throws 4 he will get no credit from you but you’re the only ones . You just like to argue
Hawktawk wrote:Geno was a SB Nation “ stud “ for Seattle yesterday . He’s played well for the overwhelming most part . The pundits are squarely with me this week . Maybe you all should admit the guy who scored the most against Denver by far is a starter . He looked quite a bit better against them than Jimmy G .
He’s not been the problem . So whatever you argumentative Geno haters . 325 with 2 touches he still sucks unless he can carry a team with no defense . If he throws 4 he will get no credit from you but you’re the only ones . You just like to argue
Hawktawk wrote:
Why do you care so much about being right that Geno is some second rate backup . He’s currently leading the NFL in completion % at 77.5, 5 points ahead of Matt Stafford . He’s got a qbr of over 100 for the year . He’s a competent NFL starter in the top 10 or better in every personal statistical category . He played twice as well as Jimmy G who everyone wanted who got stuffed by a team Geno moved the ball on pretty well in Denver . He can’t do it all . I defend facts . I defend stats. Our defense is why we are where we are . 23 points in 8 drives is elite production . Giving up 27 on D and that with the offense moving enough chains to win time of possession was elite bad . they still couldn’t stop a god damn thing . But keep at it . Seems like you can’t wait to get on the forum and blame Geno for everything. He was NOT the problem yesterday .
NorthHawk wrote:Two filthy defenses? Where did you get that from?
The Broncos were not ready on either side of the ball against us and the Falcons aren't much better than us on Defense either, so it leaves the 49ers as a potential "Filthy" Defense.
None of the teams Defenses we have faced have been running on all cylinders. They've all been figuring out how to play with each other again and adjusting to new players and wrinkles.
Games 4 or 5 and onward are when teams really start putting it together.
Hawktawk wrote:
Denver is giving up 12.1 ppg. Their performance keeping Denver in the game while 50 million played like crap for 58 minutes with 8 3 and outs was remarkable .
You just refuse to give Geno credit . He would win 12 games with that defense . There’s only so many metrics to judge a qb . Winning is one . Denver’s 2-1 because of Seattle and Geno was the main reason on offense . 9ers and Falcons we all saw the games . If you can’t play defense at all you have little chance .
Geno smith is our starter and playing like one . We will learn more going forward but he has a track record that’s becoming hard to deny .
As for Wyman I’ll say it once more . Defending Geno , especially as a vocal critic of him in the summer as Wyman definitely was is no fan boy position . The man played 12 years . If I can clearly see Geno is a very competent pro qb it’s not surprising Dave would see it too and swallow his pride . Some others should .
Hawktawk wrote:
Denver is giving up 12.1 ppg. Their performance keeping Denver in the game while 50 million played like crap for 58 minutes with 8 3 and outs was remarkable .
You just refuse to give Geno credit . He would win 12 games with that defense . There’s only so many metrics to judge a qb . Winning is one . Denver’s 2-1 because of Seattle and Geno was the main reason on offense . 9ers and Falcons we all saw the games . If you can’t play defense at all you have little chance .
Geno smith is our starter and playing like one . We will learn more going forward but he has a track record that’s becoming hard to deny .
As for Wyman I’ll say it once more . Defending Geno , especially as a vocal critic of him in the summer as Wyman definitely was is no fan boy position . The man played 12 years . If I can clearly see Geno is a very competent pro qb it’s not surprising Dave would see it too and swallow his pride . Some others should .
mykc14 wrote:I don't know for sure how good or bad Denver's D is yet, but it really does look like they have played some pretty bad offenses so far. Seattle, Texans, and San Fran are three offenses who don't look good right now.
Hawktawk wrote:I get that but 3 weeks in the defenses have made the offenses what they were . The 9ers look like the cream of the crop but Denver looks better every game . Their qb really has played like crap and they have kept him in games .
. Denver shut down an offense that scored 27 on us and say what you will an offense and that played in the NFC title game last year got humiliated . Those will be great defenses all year . We’ve faced 2 great defenses in 3 games and we got a normal one and our offense looked good . And we would have cruised if we had half the defense of the 9ers or donkeys .
NorthHawk wrote:Like most seasons, games 4 or 5 is when we will really see the teams start to separate themselves between the contenders and also rans.
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