Season predictions anyone?

[c_hawkbob]

I don't ususally get game by game specific before the season, I tend to just say "we seem like a 6-11 team" ... but I went ahead and broke it down by game on another forum and sure enough, I really do see us as a 6-11 team:

1 vs Denver (MNF) L
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit W
5 @ NO L
6 vs Zona W
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona L
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF W
16 @ KC L
17 vs NY Jets W
18 vs LA Lambs L

[RiverDog]

I don't like predictions, either, but I'll play along. I have us at 6-11, too, and I'm in agreement with you on most of the games except those highlighted in red:

1 vs Denver (MNF) L
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit W
5 @ NO L
6 vs Zona W
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona W
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF L
16 @ KC L
17 vs NY Jets W
18 vs LA Lambs L

For some reason, we always play well in Glendale as it's a virtual home game for us and the Cards have such a wimpy fan base.

I think that the Niners sweep us this season. Trey Lance will have a breakout season.

[NorthHawk]

Like a lot of bad or middle to bad teams, we will win some we should lose and lose some we should win.
I wouldn't be surprised if we beat the 49ers once and lost to the Jets or Lions. That's how things go
with young and lesser talented teams.
I think 7 wins is our ceiling but am saying we end up at 5-12.

[Hawktawk]

I don't ususally get game by game specific before the season, I tend to just say "we seem like a 6-11 team" ... but I went ahead and broke it down by game on another forum and sure enough, I really do see us as a 6-11 team:

1 vs Denver (MNF) L
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit W
5 @ NO L
6 vs Zona W
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona L
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF W
16 @ KC L
17 vs NY Jets W
18 vs LA Lambs L

Denver - win
Frisco win
Atl win
Detroit L
NO L
Az W
Lac L
Giants W
Zona W
Tb loss
Vegas W
Rams L
Carolina W
Frisco L
KC L
Jets W
Rams W

10-7 wild card . My prediction hinges greatly on going 1-0 by whatever means necessary . I think it’s a potential game changer for the whole narrative . If Vegas has it right and we lose to Russ and guys who didn’t even take a snap in the pre season by a TD or more I’ve been in la la land. This is a perfect Pete Carrol Pom pom rally the troops game . Let’s see .

[curmudgeon]

1 vs Denver L
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit L
5 @ NO L
6 vs Zona L
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona L
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF L
16 @ KC L
17 vs NY Jets L
18 vs LA Lambs L
2-15…..

[Hawktawk]

1 vs Denver L
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit L
5 @ NO L
6 vs Zona L
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona L
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF L
16 @ KC L
17 vs NY Jets L
18 vs LA Lambs L
2-15…..

Wow ok

[Aseahawkfan]

1 vs Denver (MNF) W Denver has a rookie HC and coaching staff. They are implementing a new offense. Their best pass rusher left and we took another of their good pass rushers. It will depend on our run defense, but if our run defense can hold we have a decent chance of winning.
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit W
5 @ NO W
6 vs Zona W
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona L
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF W
16 @ KC L
17 vs NY Jets W
18 vs LA Lambs L

So I figure we'll be 7-10 with maybe a surprise loss or a surprise win here and there. If our run defense is bad, could be worse. If our young CBs can't step up quickly, could be bad. Then there is the injury wild card. Penny living up to the last six game hype could move things in the other direction. Geno playing better than expected could do the same.

[obiken]

1 vs Denver (MNF) L
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit W
5 @ NO W
6 vs Zona L
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona L
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF L
16 @ KC L
17 vs NY Jets W
18 vs LA Lambs L

5 wins. Sorry CB I dont see us beating teams like the Niners or the Cards with their talent, even at home. Unlike you I gave us the Saints as a win. That might be extreme, Jamis Winston may be better than I think.

[c_hawkbob]

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/9/8/233 ... wks-season

Most of us are fairly in line with how the "experts" see it.

[Hawktawk]

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/9/8/23337449/field-gulls-predicts-2022-seattle-seahawks-season

Most of us are fairly in line with how the "experts" see it.

I wonder how many of these guys had Cincy winning the north much less a play from world champs ? None probably . But there were a few crazy Bengals fans getting ridiculed for saying they could do it . Half the crap they say turns out nonsense . But thank you pundits Vegas Russel whoever for the motivation! GO HAWKS!!!!ride Russell !

[Hawktawk]

Read them all . Best is 9-8. Everyone else under .500.
And it’s all about the qb whatever they write down along with it . All say it one way or another . Nobody believes in Geno but I bet I’ve watched more film on him in the last 10 months than all these guys put together . Maybe they are right . I’d love to see him throw for 3 and rush for 1 and hand off to Penny for a couple more and shut some of these pundits right up . It would not shock me if he did . He knows he’s got one more shot and it’s now or never . He will give it all he’s got .

[c_hawkbob]

Nobody believes in Geno but I bet I’ve watched more film on him in the last 10 months than all these guys put together

I sincerely doubt it. These guys do this for a living, breaking down film is what they do.

[RiverDog]

Nobody believes in Geno but I bet I’ve watched more film on him in the last 10 months than all these guys put together

I sincerely doubt it. These guys do this for a living, breaking down film is what they do.

And the reason they do it for a living is because they have a passion for it. They didn't hire on because it was the best paying job they could find. My guess is that they break down just as much film as any NFL scout.

[Aseahawkfan]

I think the Bills are gonna take it all this year if they stay healthy. You can see from game 1 Josh Allen wants it real, real bad. He's already playing like it's a playoff game.

[RiverDog]

I think the Bills are gonna take it all this year if they stay healthy. You can see from game 1 Josh Allen wants it real, real bad. He's already playing like it's a playoff game.

Yeah, Allen looked great. It was far from a perfect game, but damn good nonetheless. Pretty impressive when you're doing it against the defending SB champs.

[govandals]

I'll go with 5-12. I just don't see a lot of winnable games. My preference would be 1-16, embarrass Denver on Monday, then lose the rest and secure the QB of the future. Just kidding, or maybe not. I cannot actually root for them to lose when watching.
Here is one random prediction:
Geno will be benched about 6 games in, because Geno will be Geno which means a stagnant offense. Lock will start 4 games and throw 6 tds and 7 picks, Pete will bench him and Geno will finish the season.

[Hawktawk]

Nobody believes in Geno but I bet I’ve watched more film on him in the last 10 months than all these guys put together

I sincerely doubt it. These guys do this for a living, breaking down film is what they do.[/quote]

No
They don’t . The typical prediction is he’s never shown the ability to start and his time last year he went 1-2. A look inside numbers that were very similar statistically to Wilson and almost a 4% higher completion rate . He did some remarkable things personally from the moment he went 98 on the rams till walking off the field after an 80% completion 2 TDs and rush TD 138 qbr . 31-7. That terrible team he did that to held the guy we watched last night to 6 points a week later as heroic Russ got shut out in a game our crap defense shut down Arod into the 4th quarter .

Imagine if Geno got to play the commanders or Bears or AZ with Colt McCoy
They aren’t paying attention . Lazy Journalism. Unless Geno morphed back to New York days he’s going to be adequate .

[Hawktawk]

I wonder how many pundits had the Bills pounding the Rams despite several turnovers ? My bet the Rams were favored by almost everyone .

Wow the rams look unbeatable . Scary . Our odds of being in first after week 1 just improved by 25%

[RiverDog]

I wonder how many pundits had the Bills pounding the Rams despite several turnovers ? My bet the Rams were favored by almost everyone .

Wow the rams look unbeatable . Scary . Our odds of being in first after week 1 just improved by 25%

Actually, most have the Bills pegged as the favorite in the AFC. Vegas has Alen as the favorite for the MVP. If you're looking for a reason to denounce the 'experts', you won't find it in last night's game.

[Hawktawk]

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I wonder how many pundits had the Bills pounding the Rams despite several turnovers ? My bet the Rams were favored by almost everyone .

Wow the rams look unbeatable . Scary . Our odds of being in first after week 1 just improved by 25%

“Actually, most have the Bills pegged as the favorite in the AFC. Vegas has Alen as the favorite for the MVP. If you're looking for a reason to denounce the 'experts', you won't find it in last night's game.[/quote]


Where did Vegas have the game ? A bills ass whooping ? I’m well aware of the bills status in the league but my guess is they were an underdog last night . Vegas has us at 5.5. That’s the point . If it’s the bills being that good they will win it all if they stay that good . If the Rams were that bad it’s 2 more winnable games for Seattle .

[c_hawkbob]

Where did Vegas have the game ? A bills ass whooping ? I’m well aware of the bills status in the league but my guess is they were an underdog last night

Actually I believe the Bills were about 2.5 point favorites.

[RiverDog]

Where did Vegas have the game ? A bills ass whooping ? I’m well aware of the bills status in the league but my guess is they were an underdog last night

Actually I believe the Bills were about 2.5 point favorites.

Yup, and that's considering that they were playing on the road. Had they been at home, you could have added another point or two onto that line.

Kickoff from SoFi Stadium is set for 8:20 p.m. ET. Buffalo is a 2.5-point favorite in the latest Bills vs. Rams odds from Caesars Sportsbook, while the over/under for total points scored is 52.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rams ... 38-97-run/

And in case you're still doubting my claims, here's an article that cites Josh Allen as the preseason favorite to win the MVP:

NFL executives picked Allen as their favorite to capture the 2022 honor in a poll conducted by ESPN's Jeremy Fowler.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... ck-mahomes

But hey, those experts and league execs don't spend any time watching film, so what do they know?

[Hawktawk]

Oh they watch the rams and bills . Not Geno film though . They might have to start . I stand corrected on the line although it wasn’t 21 points now was it ? I’d have picked the bills in the game but not like that . Still wondering why it was bad that Pete and John scouted Allen ? Pretty good at evaluating QBs .

[Aseahawkfan]

Yup, and that's considering that they were playing on the road. Had they been at home, you could have added another point or two onto that line.

Kickoff from SoFi Stadium is set for 8:20 p.m. ET. Buffalo is a 2.5-point favorite in the latest Bills vs. Rams odds from Caesars Sportsbook, while the over/under for total points scored is 52.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/rams ... 38-97-run/

And in case you're still doubting my claims, here's an article that cites Josh Allen as the preseason favorite to win the MVP:

NFL executives picked Allen as their favorite to capture the 2022 honor in a poll conducted by ESPN's Jeremy Fowler.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... ck-mahomes

But hey, those experts and league execs don't spend any time watching film, so what do they know?

If the experts hate Russell Wilson and think the Seahawks will be better than expected, then they are right.

If they like Russell Wilson and think the Seattle will be middling, non-competitive team, then they're wrong.

You know how this works. It's been this way for months.

[RiverDog]

Looking around the division, after watching Thursday night's game against the Bills, IMO the Rams look like a team with a Super Bowl hangover and will be lucky to make the playoffs this season.

The Cards were a house of cards last season, losing 5 of their last 6 then getting trashed by the Rams in the playoffs. Kyler Murray has peaked, looks like a smaller version of Michael Vick. I don't see anything in them that would cause me to think that the losing trend established at the end of last season won't continue into 2022.

The 49'ers have to be looked at as the favorite. Shanny has pushed all his chips to the center of the table by hitching his wagon to Trey Lance. They start out with what on paper looks like a pretty soft schedule, with the Bears, us, Donkeys, Rams, Panthers, and Falcons before they face their first real challenge in the Chiefs. They have a top 5 defense and a top 10 rushing attack, an attack that will be supplemented by Lance's running, so the expectations for Lance will be similar to what we had for Russell during the LOB days, ie a point guard that distributes the ball and doesn't put the defense in bad situations. He's not going to be asked to win games, rather not to lose them. It is a perfect setup for a QB like him to thrive.

So here's my predictions for the NFC West:

San Francisco 13-4
Los Angeles 8-9
Seattle 6-11
Arizona 5-12

[obiken]

Looking around the division, after watching Thursday night's game against the Bills, IMO the Rams look like a team with a Super Bowl hangover and will be lucky to make the playoffs this season.

The Cards were a house of cards last season, losing 5 of their last 6 then getting trashed by the Rams in the playoffs. Kyler Murray has peaked, looks like a smaller version of Michael Vick. I don't see anything in them that would cause me to think that the losing trend established at the end of last season won't continue into 2022.

The 49'ers have to be looked at as the favorite. Shanny has pushed all his chips to the center of the table by hitching his wagon to Trey Lance. They start out with what on paper looks like a pretty soft schedule, with the Bears, us, Donkeys, Rams, Panthers, and Falcons before they face their first real challenge in the Chiefs. They have a top 5 defense and a top 10 rushing attack, an attack that will be supplemented by Lance's running, so the expectations for Lance will be similar to what we had for Russell during the LOB days, ie a point guard that distributes the ball and doesn't put the defense in bad situations. He's not going to be asked to win games, rather not to lose them. It is a perfect setup for a QB like him to thrive.

So here's my predictions for the NFC West:

San Francisco 13-4
Los Angeles 8-9
Seattle 6-11
Arizona 5-12

Wow man your sure basing a lot off of one game. I dont see Zona as that bad, and I think your writing off the Rams way too early. Sure they got Oline problems but it will take a really good team like the Bills to expose them.

[RiverDog]

Looking around the division, after watching Thursday night's game against the Bills, IMO the Rams look like a team with a Super Bowl hangover and will be lucky to make the playoffs this season.

The Cards were a house of cards last season, losing 5 of their last 6 then getting trashed by the Rams in the playoffs. Kyler Murray has peaked, looks like a smaller version of Michael Vick. I don't see anything in them that would cause me to think that the losing trend established at the end of last season won't continue into 2022.

The 49'ers have to be looked at as the favorite. Shanny has pushed all his chips to the center of the table by hitching his wagon to Trey Lance. They start out with what on paper looks like a pretty soft schedule, with the Bears, us, Donkeys, Rams, Panthers, and Falcons before they face their first real challenge in the Chiefs. They have a top 5 defense and a top 10 rushing attack, an attack that will be supplemented by Lance's running, so the expectations for Lance will be similar to what we had for Russell during the LOB days, ie a point guard that distributes the ball and doesn't put the defense in bad situations. He's not going to be asked to win games, rather not to lose them. It is a perfect setup for a QB like him to thrive.

So here's my predictions for the NFC West:

San Francisco 13-4
Los Angeles 8-9
Seattle 6-11
Arizona 5-12

Wow man your sure basing a lot off of one game. I dont see Zona as that bad, and I think your writing off the Rams way too early. Sure they got Oline problems but it will take a really good team like the Bills to expose them.

Yes, that's true, it was just one game. But if you take a look at them from last season, they weren't the SB monsters they would appear to have been. They lost to the Niners twice during the regular season and barely got by them in the NFCCG having trailed by two scores in the 4th quarter. They were fortunate to have drawn the Bengals in the SB, a team that I felt was over rated. Statistically, their defense wasn't that great, ranking in the bottom half of the league, and their rushing game worse, ranking 25th. Now, they've lost their starting LT to retirement, one of their best pass rushers to FA, their quarterback has tendonitis in his throwing elbow, and at 30 years old, Aaron Donald is past his prime. IMO they're ripe for a downfall.

[Hawktawk]

1. Rams 11-6
2. Seattle 10-7
3. 9ers 9-8
4. Az 7-10

[Stream Hawk]

1 vs Denver (MNF) W
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit L
5 @ NO L
6 vs Zona L
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona L
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF W
16 @ KC L
17 vs NY Jets W
18 vs LA Lambs W
Homer bias on the first game since I’ll be there. I think we will have a rough go out of the gate. I see Lock finishing the season, looking exciting. But we still draft a legit QB in rd 1 next year. The nucleus becomes very good after the bye.

[Hawktawk]

1 vs Denver (MNF) W
2 @ SF L
3 vs Atlanta L
4 @ Detroit L
5 @ NO L
6 vs Zona L
7 @ LAC L
8 vs NYG W
9 @ Zona L
10 @ TB L
11 - BYE -
12 vs Las Vegas L
13 @ LA Lambs L
14 vs Carolina W
15 vs SF W
16 @ KC Lu
17 vs NY Jets Wuhh
18 vs LA Lambs W
Homer bias on the first game since I’ll be there. I think we will have a rough go out of they gate. I see Lock finishing the season, looking exciting. But we still draft a legit QB in rd 1 next year. The nucleus becomes very good after the bye.

Everyone in the fan base and media is basing Seattle’s horrible prediction on one major presumption. . Geno is gonna suck .
So what if he doesn’t ? What does that do to your predictions ? Geno will make NFL history Monday as the longest gap between week 1 starts in history . I think he might surprise .

[Aseahawkfan]

Yes, that's true, it was just one game. But if you take a look at them from last season, they weren't the SB monsters they would appear to have been. They lost to the Niners twice during the regular season and barely got by them in the NFCCG having trailed by two scores in the 4th quarter. They were fortunate to have drawn the Bengals in the SB, a team that I felt was over rated. Statistically, their defense wasn't that great, ranking in the bottom half of the league, and their rushing game worse, ranking 25th. Now, they've lost their starting LT to retirement, one of their best pass rushers to FA, their quarterback has tendonitis in his throwing elbow, and at 30 years old, Aaron Donald is past his prime. IMO they're ripe for a downfall.

If this division were tougher, I'd see a Rams hangover more likely. The Bills are just that good. I wouldn't base any game off a Thursday night game where the Bills QB was so committed to winning that he was laying his body on the line. If Josh Allen stays healthy and the Bills hit the playoffs, Josh Allen and the Bills will be hard to stop. I watched him get two first downs and a touchdown running. And not smart Russell running with a slide, but "I'm Josh Allen. I will not be stopped" running where he tries to do his Marshawn Lynch impression. He may not stay healthy doing that, but in game 1 against the Rams he was feeling it.

We'll know more next week.

[RiverDog]

If this division were tougher, I'd see a Rams hangover more likely. The Bills are just that good. I wouldn't base any game off a Thursday night game where the Bills QB was so committed to winning that he was laying his body on the line. If Josh Allen stays healthy and the Bills hit the playoffs, Josh Allen and the Bills will be hard to stop. I watched him get two first downs and a touchdown running. And not smart Russell running with a slide, but "I'm Josh Allen. I will not be stopped" running where he tries to do his Marshawn Lynch impression. He may not stay healthy doing that, but in game 1 against the Rams he was feeling it.

We'll know more next week.

Are the Bills that good or are the Rams that bad? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

The truth lies somewhere in between. Yes, the Bills and Josh Allen looked great. But when you consider that the Rams are the defending SB champs, it has to be at a combination of the Rams being weaker and the Bills being stronger. It was too dominating of a win for it to be due soley to the Bills/Allen playing better.

It's only one game, but considering the pieces that the Rams lost this past offseason, I think they're in for a down year.

[Hawktawk]

I agree with this . Both are true . The Bills were 13 seconds from being world champs last year . Had McDermott put the kickoff in play instead of handing the time to Mahomes I don’t see Cincy or last years rams teams beating them. Allen might get hurt but he’s the ultimate big bad boy , most efficient runner in the league ahead of Rashaad Penny last year . If you ask Bobby after getting trucked Allen deals it out . Baddest ass qb in the league . Imagine him with a defense like the lob . Looks like he might have it . Look out .
As for the rams if the 9ers defender doesn’t drop Staffords balloon they get trifecta swept by the 9ers . A couple huge calls . Injuries to 2 starting QBs in the division. One of the weaker champions I can recall . I still think they have enough to make the postseason but after that thrashing I don’t know ?

[Aseahawkfan]

Are the Bills that good or are the Rams that bad? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

The truth lies somewhere in between. Yes, the Bills and Josh Allen looked great. But when you consider that the Rams are the defending SB champs, it has to be at a combination of the Rams being weaker and the Bills being stronger. It was too dominating of a win for it to be due soley to the Bills/Allen playing better.

It's only one game, but considering the pieces that the Rams lost this past offseason, I think they're in for a down year.

The Bills game I watched. To me it looked like Josh Allen on a mission. I don't see somewhere in-between. I see a Josh Allen led Bills team with the QB on an absolutely mission to win it all. I see a Bills team with a real pass rush. You don't play like that in game 1 unless your mindset is on another level. Allen was abusing defensive players. He ran over Bobby. He was trying to kick his way out of the grasp of another defensive player that had him wrapped up. I haven't seen a QB with that mindset really ever. I've seen Ben R run around and is hard to bring down. But I haven't seen a QB who was basically like Beastmode playing QB.

I'll see if I agree with you midseason. Right now to me it looks like the Bills really, really want a Super Bowl and Josh Allen is possessed right now.

I haven't watched much Josh Allen. That kid is a freak show QB. He looks like a Cam Newton who can pass. I no longer want a Peyton Manning. I want a dude like Josh Allen in Seattle.

[Hawktawk]

Me too . the swag, the fearlessness and really the guy is pretty elusive for a dude that big .

[RiverDog]

Are the Bills that good or are the Rams that bad? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

The truth lies somewhere in between. Yes, the Bills and Josh Allen looked great. But when you consider that the Rams are the defending SB champs, it has to be at a combination of the Rams being weaker and the Bills being stronger. It was too dominating of a win for it to be due soley to the Bills/Allen playing better.

It's only one game, but considering the pieces that the Rams lost this past offseason, I think they're in for a down year.

The Bills game I watched. To me it looked like Josh Allen on a mission. I don't see somewhere in-between. I see a Josh Allen led Bills team with the QB on an absolutely mission to win it all. I see a Bills team with a real pass rush. You don't play like that in game 1 unless your mindset is on another level. Allen was abusing defensive players. He ran over Bobby. He was trying to kick his way out of the grasp of another defensive player that had him wrapped up. I haven't seen a QB with that mindset really ever. I've seen Ben R run around and is hard to bring down. But I haven't seen a QB who was basically like Beastmode playing QB.

I'll see if I agree with you midseason. Right now to me it looks like the Bills really, really want a Super Bowl and Josh Allen is possessed right now.

I haven't watched much Josh Allen. That kid is a freak show QB. He looks like a Cam Newton who can pass. I no longer want a Peyton Manning. I want a dude like Josh Allen in Seattle.

I agree with your assessment of the Bills, and I, too, really like Josh Allen. We'll see how long he can play at that level. He looks a lot like Lamar Jackson when he first came up.

But my comments were more about the Rams than they were about the Bills. I don't care who it was they lost to. They are the frigging defending SB champs, and reigning champs don't get beat that badly unless they've had a pretty significant drop off in quality or had one really bad game.

[Aseahawkfan]

I agree with your assessment of the Bills, and I, too, really like Josh Allen. We'll see how long he can play at that level. He looks a lot like Lamar Jackson when he first came up.

But my comments were more about the Rams than they were about the Bills. I don't care who it was they lost to. They are the frigging defending SB champs, and reigning champs don't get beat that badly unless they've had a pretty significant drop off in quality or had one really bad game.

They weren't dominating Super Bowl champions. Bills would have taken them if KC didn't knock the Bills out. Let's be real: last year was a weak Super Bowl. Rams only have a chance to repeat because the NFC is weak right now. I still don't know why people like Frisco so much with Trey Lance at QB. And Cincinnati isn't making it past the Bills this year. Chiefs might knock the Bills out again, but I doubt even the Chiefs are going to stop the Bills. Bills picked up Von Miller to stick it to Mahomes who didn't even outplay Josh Allen in the divisional round. Bills weak defense gave up too many points. Doubt that happens again. Bills are going to bash their way through the AFC if they stay healthy.

NFC is once again a weak conference with the Rams at the top. Maybe Frisco can step up if Trey Lance is actually good. I don't even think Brady will compete this year, but who knows. And Green Bay is in contention. Maybe the Cowboys or Eagles will surprise. Who knows. But all the power is in the AFC right now. Stafford is Stafford. The Rams got lucky pulling Cincinnati after they pulled off the miracle win to make it to the Super Bowl.

I feel like you could safely put a grand down in Vegas on the Bills to win the Super Bowl.

In the NFC, you couldn't put safe money on anyone to go to the Super Bowl. It's going to be a bunch of weak teams fighting it out. The Rams still probably have the fewest weaknesses. But if any NFC team pulls the Bills in the Super Bowl, probably going to go terribly for them.

[obiken]

I agree with ASHF River, the Rams are good team but were IMHO, the weakest team to win the SB since the NYJ. Granted they had massive weapons, but they were a paste and glue special at LT, RB, and even WR. However, before people like Hawk Talk start having wet dreams over US beating them, they are way better than the average teams out there, little own weak teams like us. You know as well as I do that the path to the SB is way easier from the NFC side than the AFC.

[RiverDog]

I agree with your assessment of the Bills, and I, too, really like Josh Allen. We'll see how long he can play at that level. He looks a lot like Lamar Jackson when he first came up.

But my comments were more about the Rams than they were about the Bills. I don't care who it was they lost to. They are the frigging defending SB champs, and reigning champs don't get beat that badly unless they've had a pretty significant drop off in quality or had one really bad game.

They weren't dominating Super Bowl champions. Bills would have taken them if KC didn't knock the Bills out. Let's be real: last year was a weak Super Bowl. Rams only have a chance to repeat because the NFC is weak right now. I still don't know why people like Frisco so much with Trey Lance at QB. And Cincinnati isn't making it past the Bills this year. Chiefs might knock the Bills out again, but I doubt even the Chiefs are going to stop the Bills. Bills picked up Von Miller to stick it to Mahomes who didn't even outplay Josh Allen in the divisional round. Bills weak defense gave up too many points. Doubt that happens again. Bills are going to bash their way through the AFC if they stay healthy.

NFC is once again a weak conference with the Rams at the top. Maybe Frisco can step up if Trey Lance is actually good. I don't even think Brady will compete this year, but who knows. And Green Bay is in contention. Maybe the Cowboys or Eagles will surprise. Who knows. But all the power is in the AFC right now. Stafford is Stafford. The Rams got lucky pulling Cincinnati after they pulled off the miracle win to make it to the Super Bowl.

I feel like you could safely put a grand down in Vegas on the Bills to win the Super Bowl.

In the NFC, you couldn't put safe money on anyone to go to the Super Bowl. It's going to be a bunch of weak teams fighting it out. The Rams still probably have the fewest weaknesses. But if any NFC team pulls the Bills in the Super Bowl, probably going to go terribly for them.

Now I can tell you what Obi told me: It's just one game. Not only that, but we haven't seen any of the other 30 teams (a fact that will change in about 7 hours).

Gambling is something that I rarely do, and even then, it's with a trivial amount at stake, something just to keep me interested in an outcome. But I wouldn't feel comfortable putting money on any team at this point in the season.

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Now I can tell you what Obi told me: It's just one game. Not only that, but we haven't seen any of the other 30 teams (a fact that will change in about 7 hours).

Gambling is something that I rarely do, and even then, it's with a trivial amount at stake, something just to keep me interested in an outcome. But I wouldn't feel comfortable putting money on any team at this point in the season.

You are an early riser, RD.

If we could bet online, I'd put money down on the Bills. I wish it wasn't illegal in Washington State.