Wilson to the Broncos

[Hawktawk]

I don’t consider any player a traitor including Russ. They’re sacrificing their bodies in a horrifically violent sport, so they should pursue the maximum amount they can get. I just thought it was cringy and self-centred to start using the first person when talking about the team’s success and failures. Sure, Dan Patrick baited him, but lots of people try to bait. Russ was feeling it, and took the bait. I believe he also talked about wanting more say in the offense in the same interview - which I was ok with. Then whoever decided to release the list of teams Russ would be willing to accept a trade to…wasn’t very smart. I’m happy for Russ that he’s on a team with leadership more aligned to him. I’m tired of the drama in Seattle which he or his agent helped propagate. You can’t blame the Hawks for looking into acquiring QB’s while they had him. They would be negligent if they didn’t look in my book.

Anyone who watched Josh Allen last night and would prefer 2022 Russ over that step right up and make your case . Mahomes ? His first 4 years starting lost in AFC championship , win super bowl , lose super bowl , lose in AFC championship . Both of those in OT.
I’m more impressed than ever with John and Pete after learning they scouted those guys . I don’t believe a trade was seriously floated . But if it was as I’ve said 49 ended poorly but Rodgers drove a hard bargain . Next 2 years basically got outplayed by Teddy Bridgewater in a miracle missed Walsh FG. Fall behind 31-0 to Carolina with 2 picks in the first half including a pick 6 . Brag about almost comeback post game . Next year play awful vs Atlanta who we had beaten earlier with future whistling and jeering from the Atlanta sidelines . Get up and start talking about some stadium deal post game , very flippant and dismissal of the loss, took no accountability . 17 no postseason although it was a team effort and if a case might be made for Russ as MVP as he was the offense that gear .
But fact is we won 2 wild card games last 2 years of LOB and 1 WC win since LOB, that coming 3 years ago vs Philly and Josh McCown .
I don’t blame the coach if they had concerns about the guy making more then almost anyone in the league whose Ahole agent was calling to complain about wins if Russ didn’t get to throw more .
Of course Asea is right , everyone including me would have been outraged at the time . But hindsight is golden . I wish we had .

[RiverDog]

I don’t consider any player a traitor including Russ. They’re sacrificing their bodies in a horrifically violent sport, so they should pursue the maximum amount they can get. I just thought it was cringy and self-centred to start using the first person when talking about the team’s success and failures. Sure, Dan Patrick baited him, but lots of people try to bait. Russ was feeling it, and took the bait. I believe he also talked about wanting more say in the offense in the same interview - which I was ok with. Then whoever decided to release the list of teams Russ would be willing to accept a trade to…wasn’t very smart. I’m happy for Russ that he’s on a team with leadership more aligned to him. I’m tired of the drama in Seattle which he or his agent helped propagate. You can’t blame the Hawks for looking into acquiring QB’s while they had him. They would be negligent if they didn’t look in my book.

If it wasn't for your statement saying that you'd boo Russell when introduced, I'd be fully on board with your train of thought. Booing is a classless act, especially given how many good things that Russell did for us.

I, too, had gotten a bit tired of the drama, and his pollyannish personality had begun to wear on me, always talking in cliches, everything is rainbows and unicorns. After a while, it begins to sound phony and insincere. He was obsessed with his image to the point where everything he said and did seem highly choreographed, like a politician that's perpetually running for office. So in that respect, I'm glad he's gone. But from a purely football perspective, we would have been a lot better off keeping him and showing Pete the door.

[govandals]

I won't be at the game, but I would be one of the ones booing for sure. I'm happy for Russ that he found greener grass, but he's just an enemy now. I'm sure I'll feel a little different after he's retired, but not right now.

This is exactly how I feel as well.

[Hawktawk]

I don’t consider any player a traitor including Russ. They’re sacrificing their bodies in a horrifically violent sport, so they should pursue the maximum amount they can get. I just thought it was cringy and self-centred to start using the first person when talking about the team’s success and failures. Sure, Dan Patrick baited him, but lots of people try to bait. Russ was feeling it, and took the bait. I believe he also talked about wanting more say in the offense in the same interview - which I was ok with. Then whoever decided to release the list of teams Russ would be willing to accept a trade to…wasn’t very smart. I’m happy for Russ that he’s on a team with leadership more aligned to him. I’m tired of the drama in Seattle which he or his agent helped propagate. You can’t blame the Hawks for looking into acquiring QB’s while they had him. They would be negligent if they didn’t look in my book.

If it wasn't for your statement saying that you'd boo Russell when introduced, I'd be fully on board with your train of thought. Booing is a classless act, especially given how many good things that Russell did for us.

I, too, had gotten a bit tired of the drama, and his pollyannish personality had begun to wear on me, always talking in cliches, everything is rainbows and unicorns. After a while, it begins to sound phony and insincere. He was obsessed with his image to the point where everything he said and did seem highly choreographed, like a politician that's perpetually running for office. So in that respect, I'm glad he's gone. But from a purely football perspective, we would have been a lot better off keeping him and showing Pete the door.[/quote]

Traitor is too much . HT hyperbole run amok . But I disagree with your thought about keeping Russ and firing Pete . I did agree early on in the midseason train wreck when it was clear something had to change . It’s the backstory that’s changed my mind . Hearing his agent was dropping F bombs on a guy who paid your client 35 million a year because Russ didn’t get to pass enough in the second half of a game Seattle won and led 24 zip at halftime . Talking crap about the roster . Caring more about individual awards then winning .
No Jody got it right . I think Denver will rue the day they traded for so charming he’s alarming . Love to be a fly on the wall when his teammates are discussing the new normal candidly . No sir I do not want the guy around after Monday .

[I-5]

But from a purely football perspective, we would have been a lot better off keeping him and showing Pete the door.

On the contrary, had we kept Russ, even if we changed coaches, I think would take longer to retool the team, and by then Russ would be in his mid to late 30's...no thanks.

I MUCH prefer the direction we are heading now, hauling in a bunch of good young talent in return from the trade that will develop this year (I accept it will be a struggle and growing pains), then another big draft coming up - hopefully crowned by a new young talented QB which we have every right to expect they will land. Rip the band aid off.

As for booing, it's part of the fun...like a playoff atmosphere. I've heard many visiting players say how much they enjoy being the villian when our place is loud. As long as it doesn't get personal or violent.

[Hawktawk]

Pete was asked whether fans should boo. He said I’ll leave that up to the 12s . I’ll take their lead . It’s game time , new season or words to that effect . There’s no love lost at all .

[Aseahawkfan]

Be nice if your greats retired playing for the same team, but that isn't the NFL any more except maybe in Pittsburgh. Rooney family are the only owners players should show any loyalty to as they are the only owners that stick by their greats even when in decline. Rooneys are the only true old school owners left in the NFL. Everyone else shows little loyalty and should be given little allegiance including Seattle. But that is the modern NFL and the way every team does it.

I do hope this strategy works. NFL QBs need to be kicked off their pedestal a bit. Pay is getting outrageous. Not sure how you build a team with QB pay this insane.

[RiverDog]

As for booing, it's part of the fun...like a playoff atmosphere. I've heard many visiting players say how much they enjoy being the villian when our place is loud. As long as it doesn't get personal or violent.

It might be fun for you, but it's not my bag. As far as players enjoying being the villain, it's just a guess, but I don't think Russell is the type of personality that likes being the bad guy. IMO he'll feel very embarrassed and insulted if he's greeted by a cascade of boos, of which I think is highly likely.

And as you noted, booing can be like inciting a riot. I've seen a number of fights over the years when fans disagree over how a certain player should be treated. No sense adding fuel to the fire.

[Hawktawk]

I won’t boo. I never do but when game time hits I scream my lungs out on defense and I’m as loud in person as on line . 12 plays hard . I was sick for a week after beast quake .
I think it’s gonna be damn uncomfortable for Russ and I don’t blame anyone for their reactions . It’s going to be uncomfortable for him during the game too . He will need to play well and prepare for every exotic defensive wrinkle imaginable . I think it’s a tall order for him and a bunch of guys who have to go defend the honor of the guy who just got 50 million a year and didn’t take a hit the entire preseason . To me laying 6.5 is the biggest sucker bet of week 1. If Russ plays well and Denver wins I’ll have to tip a cap to him . That’s how hard I think Seattle is gonna play .

[Aseahawkfan]

If it wasn't for your statement saying that you'd boo Russell when introduced, I'd be fully on board with your train of thought. Booing is a classless act, especially given how many good things that Russell did for us.

I don't boo either. Just not something I would spend the energy to do. I don't attend games. I don't like noise and crowds much. Same reason I don't go to music concerts.