Ken Walker III Out With a Hernia

[RiverDog]

Walker didn't practice Tuesday and will likely be out for rest of the preseason, if not longer. It looks like Penny has been coaching him up:

Many are excited for Seattle Seahawks rookie running back Kenneth Walker III, but he is now working through an issue that could hold him out for some time. Tuesday, Walker did not practice with the team. Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll told reporters afterwards that he's working through a hernia "thing."

"We've just got to make sure that he's OK by the opener is what we're shooting for."

However, this hernia is an issue that could slow his development, and going by Carroll's comments, it sounds like the Sept. 12 season opener against the Denver Broncos could be in jeopardy as well.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/seah ... his-point/

Get ready to see a lot of Travis Homer and Dee Jay Dallas.

[NorthHawk]

We're cursed at RB with injuries.

[Hawktawk]

We're cursed at RB with injuries.

We’re cursed with injuries period . Has another team had more high value draft picks wind up hurt the last 5 years ? Do we need to look at our strength and conditioning program ?

[Hawktawk]

I recall beast mode had a sports hernia in mid 2015. He couldn’t play with it and had surgery missing 8 weeks . Hopefully it isn’t walkers reality but point being I doubt a hernia will improve with rest .

[RiverDog]

I recall beast mode had a sports hernia in mid 2015. He couldn’t play with it and had surgery missing 8 weeks . Hopefully it isn’t walkers reality but point being I doubt a hernia will improve with rest .

It's hard to tell. Ten years ago, I was diagnosed with two hernias, had one repaired and the other one the surgeon said that I might not ever have to have it repaired. He checked it out a year ago and said it was still not a problem.

Even if Walker has surgery, he'd only be out 3-4 weeks.

[jshawaii22]

a few weeks outwith hernia surgery? I think if it's a "sports" hernia, it could be a lot longer. I don't know about you, but it would seem that running around with your package hanging out would be rather uncomfortable.

[Hawktawk]

a few weeks outwith hernia surgery? I think if it's a "sports" hernia, it could be a lot longer. I don't know about you, but it would seem that running around with your package hanging out would be rather uncomfortable.

Yeah I had one , very young from being worked hard stacking wood . 7 th grade . Any exertion was an invitation for intestines to make an appearance .

I think it’s one thing to be Joe blow with a hernia and an nfl back with essentially a core injury . Beast was as tough as it gets but he couldn’t do it and rehab was 8-9 weeks . I am not optimistic . Crap .

[Aseahawkfan]

It depends on how bad it is. I have a mild hernia. I can still deadlift 400 plus and not affect it. Just have to be smart if it acts up. I've had it for years. It made me real careful lifting with bracing and making sure to strengthen my abs and core before going hard.

But Walker's is likely worse and not great when you get them this young at the start of your running career. Hopefully it is repairable and just a blip on the radar of his career.

[RiverDog]

Sounds like Walker might be having surgery:

Seahawks’ HC Pete Carroll told reporters today that rookie RB Kenneth Walker is undergoing a “procedure”, but the team has said it is not a sports hernia.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... _&ref_url=

So what does that leave? An inguinal hernia?

What other kind of "procedure" is there besides surgery? If he's having surgery, he'll be out for at least 4 weeks, missing the season opener.

[Aseahawkfan]

Sounds like Walker might be having surgery:

Seahawks’ HC Pete Carroll told reporters today that rookie RB Kenneth Walker is undergoing a “procedure”, but the team has said it is not a sports hernia.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... _&ref_url=

So what does that leave? An inguinal hernia?

If he's having surgery, he'll be out for at least 4 weeks, missing the season opener.

Now we get to see if Penny can maintain being a top 5 back carrying the load.

[RiverDog]

Sounds like Walker might be having surgery:

Seahawks’ HC Pete Carroll told reporters today that rookie RB Kenneth Walker is undergoing a “procedure”, but the team has said it is not a sports hernia.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... _&ref_url=

So what does that leave? An inguinal hernia?

If he's having surgery, he'll be out for at least 4 weeks, missing the season opener.

Now we get to see if Penny can maintain being a top 5 back carrying the load.

Maybe not. We could see a heavy dose of Homer and Dallas. Giving Penny 25 touches a game is just asking for an injury. Besides, Dallas and Homer are better passing down options.

[Aseahawkfan]

Maybe not. We could see a heavy dose of Homer and Dallas. Giving Penny 25 touches a game is just asking for an injury. Besides, Dallas and Homer are better passing down options.

What are you talking about, man? Penny is a top 5 monster back. He's going to rack up 1500 yards easy.

[RiverDog]

Maybe not. We could see a heavy dose of Homer and Dallas. Giving Penny 25 touches a game is just asking for an injury. Besides, Dallas and Homer are better passing down options.

What are you talking about, man? Penny is a top 5 monster back. He's going to rack up 1500 yards easy.

Yeah, I forgot. Thanks for the reminder.

[Old but Slow]

There was a recent report (can't remember where) that Walker's hernia is of a non-football injury type and that he may be available for game #1.

[RiverDog]

There was a recent report (can't remember where) that Walker's hernia is of a non-football injury type and that he may be available for game #1.

This whole thing is a bit of a mystery. They said that Walker was undergoing a "procedure" but they didn't say what kind of procedure. They said that it wasn't a sports hernia, but they didn't say what it was.

[NorthHawk]

There was also a comment that he'd be back in just a couple of weeks, so who knows exactly what it is?
I just hope he's healthy for the season.

[RiverDog]

Although it's pretty difficult to de-code Pete's BS, it's starting to sound like Walker won't make it back in time for the season opener, or at least they're not as optimistic as they have been:

Carroll initially said he expected rookie running back Kenneth Walker III to be back by the opener from his hernia procedure, but he has since backed off that thought. Seattle's second-round pick has been in line for a significant role alongside Rashaad Penny.

"I don't know how to call what's going to happen because it's such an unusual circumstance that he has," Carroll said. "He's really tough, he's making big progress every day. He just feels more comfortable. I think he sneezed the other day and made it through it. So he's doing fine. But how many weeks is it going to take? I don't know that. The docs aren't telling us that either, so I think a lot's going to have to do with him.

"If you're going to bank on him, he's going to make it back in a hurry. He's really tough. He's very demanding of himself. So we'll see how it goes, but we're going to be hopeful for that to happen."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/344 ... uarterback

Made it through a sneeze? Hehe. If that's what he's basing his opinion on, it doesn't sound good.

[tarlhawk]

Speculation abounds but the one thing Pete said definitively was that it wasn't a sports hernia (that requires surgery...not a procedure). Its not a time to panic...our high draft picks aren't cursed. We need him mid to late season to keep Penny humming through the seasons count down. Early in the season Dallas and Homer can "spell" Penny or perhaps a re-signing of Collins as a stop-gap.

[RiverDog]

Speculation abounds but the one thing Pete said definitively was that it wasn't a sports hernia (that requires surgery...not a procedure). Its not a time to panic...our high draft picks aren't cursed. We need him mid to late season to keep Penny humming through the seasons count down. Early in the season Dallas and Homer can "spell" Penny or perhaps a re-signing of Collins as a stop-gap.

We might be splitting hairs here, but isn't surgery a procedure?

It's not just sports hernias that require surgery. I had an inguinal hernia that required surgery. However, it's my understanding that sports hernias are more serious, require a longer recovery period.

I'm certainly not panicked. Even if, or perhaps more accurately, when Penny goes down, I'm very comfortable with both Homer and Dallas. I've never been a big fan of spending high draft picks on RB's anyway, and this predicament we find ourselves in is a major reason why.

[NorthHawk]

I was under the impression that a procedure was surgery. Pete's bafflegab is often a smokescreen about what's really going on.
Or maybe he just likes to sound like he knows what's happening.

[Hawktawk]

I was under the impression that a procedure was surgery. Pete's bafflegab is often a smokescreen about what's really going on.
Or maybe he just likes to sound like he knows what's happening.

The disrespect of Pete Carroll is shameful but perfectly ok here . He won the second most games last ten years. I think he knows what’s happening . Ask Russ and his boy Nathan if Pete knows anything on the 12th. Just don’t criticize former guy What I took from the statement was his feeling it’s a pain tolerance issue. Pete has made a lot of interesting and pointed statements , not just happy talk .

[tarlhawk]

We might be splitting hairs here, but isn't surgery a procedure?

As an example...a person with heart issues can be "fixed" with bypass surgery...or via procedure of having stents installed. One is very invasive/longer recovery...while the other is "minimal" with quick recovery.

[RiverDog]

I was under the impression that a procedure was surgery. Pete's bafflegab is often a smokescreen about what's really going on.
Or maybe he just likes to sound like he knows what's happening.

The disrespect of Pete Carroll is shameful but perfectly ok here . He won the second most games last ten years. I think he knows what’s happening . Ask Russ and his boy Nathan if Pete knows anything on the 12th. Just don’t criticize former guy What I took from the statement was his feeling it’s a pain tolerance issue. Pete has made a lot of interesting and pointed statements , not just happy talk .

Oh, come off it, HT. Shameful? You don't hesitate a second when it comes to saying something a lot more disrespectful of Russell.

Speaking for North Hawk and a number of others in this forum, we have always said these types of things about Pete, that he's full of more chit than a Christmas goose, that he's like a little kid on a sugar high, etc. It's only in the past few months that you've started interpreting the very same remarks that many of us have made for over 12 years as "shameful."

[NorthHawk]

We were talking about Pete having "used car salesman" vibes after the first press conference. And it really hasn't changed in the last 12 years.

[RiverDog]

We were talking about Pete having "used car salesman" vibes after the first press conference. And it really hasn't changed in the last 12 years.

Used car salesman would have been one of the lamer characterizations. Heck, even during the peak of the LOB years, we were talking trash about Pete's style. Now suddenly it's become "shameful." SMH.

[tarlhawk]

Pete has a very pleasant personality and having been here "awhile" enjoys sparring with the local media who he has become familiar with. Pete is seldom goaded into giving responses that "box" him into a corner. He has earned his reputation as being able to motivate/transform a culture...which requires some "buy-in" when dealing with strong "all about me personalities" stereotyped as alpha males.


Say all you want about the culture he established upon arriving here...and perhaps fans become bored of mantras like "always compete" and its "not how you start but how you finish" it is generally well received by new players and players who have left the team due to the business nature of the sport.


If you pay attention to responses given by many arriving free agents (both recent and past) the exiting Seahawk players spread the word that Seattle's culture is fun and highly regarded for its respect given to its players/staff and all those who are employed in various roles of support in the organization and building. Its a true team experience that seems cherished by all who have worn a Seahawk uniform.


Appreciation for him as our Head Coach isn't the equivalent of idolization...life and its choices of entertainment need "that good feel/vibe" and Pete delivers it in droves. Go Hawks

[Aseahawkfan]

The disrespect of Pete Carroll is shameful but perfectly ok here . He won the second most games last ten years. I think he knows what’s happening . Ask Russ and his boy Nathan if Pete knows anything on the 12th. Just don’t criticize former guy What I took from the statement was his feeling it’s a pain tolerance issue. Pete has made a lot of interesting and pointed statements , not just happy talk .

We all know how Pete talks and you have to take what he says with a grain of salt to lessen the positive sweetness of his "everything is great" speak until we find out Kenneth Walker won't be back for weeks and the "procedure" was a lot more invasive and worse than expected. We've literally heard of him doing this many, many times. He underestimates injuries and recovery times all the time. It's like when you blamed Russ for somehow forcing his way back in to playing after his finger injury without ever bothering to realize Pete decides who plays based on what he sees during practice, not Russ. So Pete decided Russ looked ready to play and let him play. For all of us watching it was obvious Russ wasn't fully recovered from his finger injury. But Pete thought Russ with a hurt finger was better than a healthy Geno. But somehow you blame Russ for that even though he doesn't have the power to force his way into games and if Pete thought Geno was playing better as you have stated to us a 1000 times, he would have played Geno. But Pete thought Russ was a better option to win than Geno and you still don't want to admit that because you think QBs have magical powers to override their coaches even though they don't.

Pete literally disagreed with you by his actions. Pete thought Russ with a hurt finger was better than Geno with his amazing 3 game run that you bring up over and over and over again could play better than Geno. I guess Pete was wrong in your mind as he decides who plays from week to week.

[Aseahawkfan]

Pete has a very pleasant personality and having been here "awhile" enjoys sparring with the local media who he has become familiar with. Pete is seldom goaded into giving responses that "box" him into a corner. He has earned his reputation as being able to motivate/transform a culture...which requires some "buy-in" when dealing with strong "all about me personalities" stereotyped as alpha males.


Say all you want about the culture he established upon arriving here...and perhaps fans become bored of mantras like "always compete" and its "not how you start but how you finish" it is generally well received by new players and players who have left the team due to the business nature of the sport.


If you pay attention to responses given by many arriving free agents (both recent and past) the exiting Seahawk players spread the word that Seattle's culture is fun and highly regarded for its respect given to its players/staff and all those who are employed in various roles of support in the organization and building. Its a true team experience that seems cherished by all who have worn a Seahawk uniform.


Appreciation for him as our Head Coach isn't the equivalent of idolization...life and its choices of entertainment need "that good feel/vibe" and Pete delivers it in droves. Go Hawks

The only thing that players give a crap about is winning. They may sound like they care about the culture and talk up the coach in boring ass PR interviews, but the bottom line is money for them and winning. If you're winning, you can get players cheaper. If you're losing, then you won't. In fact guys like Jarran Reed and Clowney wont' give you any kind of discount and go to other teams for less money because they can't stand the coaching staff. Or your franchise QB with the pleasant personality demands a trade.

Sorry, man, the evidence is not on your side. Business is business in the NFL. Pleasant culture or not, you better win or players won't want to come here unless they have to or you have pay them a lot to stay.

[Hawktawk]

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Maybe not. We could see a heavy dose of Homer and Dallas. Giving Penny 25 touches a game is just asking for an injury. Besides, Dallas and Homer are better passing down options.

“What are you talking about, man? Penny is a top 5 monster back. He's going to rack up 1500 yards easy.[/quote]

If he’s healthy yup
. Top 5 minimum . 1500 yards and 15 TDs. If healthy. It’s a big if . And river I don’t know where you come up with your theory Penny isn’t a good receiver ? He’s good at everything . He seemed to be pass blocking quite well last year as well . You really don’t need to throw it with penny because he has so many chunk plays it’s just as efficient and less risky . Watching the film on how he changed field position in those games makes clear he’s s generational talent who will make everyone else on that offense better .

[RiverDog]

If he’s healthy yup
. Top 5 minimum . 1500 yards and 15 TDs. If healthy. It’s a big if . And river I don’t know where you come up with your theory Penny isn’t a good receiver ? He’s good at everything . He seemed to be pass blocking quite well last year as well . You really don’t need to throw it with penny because he has so many chunk plays it’s just as efficient and less risky . Watching the film on how he changed field position in those games makes clear he’s s generational talent who will make everyone else on that offense better .

So Penny is going to rack up 1500 yards/15 TD's? Of course, you have to add the caveat "if healthy", of which odds are he won't be, so you can't go wrong. How about telling us what you think his totals will be at the end of the season, period? I'm saying that we'll be lucky if it's half that amount.

[Aseahawkfan]

So Penny is going to rack up 1500 yards/15 TD's? Of course, you have to add the caveat "if healthy", of which odds are he won't be, so you can't go wrong. How about telling us what you think his totals will be at the end of the season, period? I'm saying that we'll be lucky if it's half that amount.

You are failing to understand the reality of the incredible draft we had. Every single one of these players is already a pro bowler.

Cross is already bound for the Pro Bowl. By the end of his career, Walter Jones will be wishing he was as good as Charles Cross.
Lucas is a starting Pro Bowl right tackle.
Walker is the next Ladainian Tomlinson.
Both of the 5th round CBs are the second coming of the Legion of Boom.
Boye Mafe is LT reborn.

And Rashaad Penny...well, he's the best back in the league. At least Top 5 and all he had to do is play in 4 games. If he even does well in 4 games but misses the other 13 or just performs ok, he's still a top 5 back because you know 3 game Geno is a Pro Bowler and 4 Game Penny is a top 5 back. That's all it takes nowadays to be one of the best.

Add that to our already incredible pro bowlers on the defensive line Mone and Ford and Geno "Pro Bowler after 3 games" Smith, we're set for a monster Super Bowl run this year.

Russell Wilson was a terrible, washed up QB who for purely selfish reasons visited pediatric hospital wards and prepared in the offseason relentlessly whose absence will make the team better, addition by subtraction.

Bobby was washed up too. Team felt he was so washed up they didn't even bother to tell him he was washed up when they cut him. Pete and John can do anything they want and they're absolutely perfect, do no wrong, and every word or idea out of their mouth is the gospel truth.

C'mon man, how come you haven't gotten with the program yet?

[RiverDog]

So Penny is going to rack up 1500 yards/15 TD's? Of course, you have to add the caveat "if healthy", of which odds are he won't be, so you can't go wrong. How about telling us what you think his totals will be at the end of the season, period? I'm saying that we'll be lucky if it's half that amount.

You are failing to understand the reality of the incredible draft we had. Every single one of these players is already a pro bowler.

Cross is already bound for the Pro Bowl. By the end of his career, Walter Jones will be wishing he was as good as Charles Cross.
Lucas is a starting Pro Bowl right tackle.
Walker is the next Ladainian Tomlinson.
Both of the 5th round CBs are the second coming of the Legion of Boom.
Boye Mafe is LT reborn.

And Rashaad Penny...well, he's the best back in the league. At least Top 5 and all he had to do is play in 4 games. If he even does well in 4 games but misses the other 13 or just performs ok, he's still a top 5 back because you know 3 game Geno is a Pro Bowler and 4 Game Penny is a top 5 back. That's all it takes nowadays to be one of the best.

Add that to our already incredible pro bowlers on the defensive line Mone and Ford and Geno "Pro Bowler after 3 games" Smith, we're set for a monster Super Bowl run this year.

Russell Wilson was a terrible, washed up QB who for purely selfish reasons visited pediatric hospital wards and prepared in the offseason relentlessly whose absence will make the team better, addition by subtraction.

Bobby was washed up too. Team felt he was so washed up they didn't even bother to tell him he was washed up when they cut him. Pete and John can do anything they want and they're absolutely perfect, do no wrong, and every word or idea out of their mouth is the gospel truth.

C'mon man, how come you haven't gotten with the program yet?

You forgot about Pete. He's really happy with this team, win forever, always compete, and he's not tanking. 10 wins minimum, baby! Go, Hawks!

[Hawktawk]

If he’s healthy yup
. Top 5 minimum . 1500 yards and 15 TDs. If healthy. It’s a big if . And river I don’t know where you come up with your theory Penny isn’t a good receiver ? He’s good at everything . He seemed to be pass blocking quite well last year as well . You really don’t need to throw it with penny because he has so many chunk plays it’s just as efficient and less risky . Watching the film on how he changed field position in those games makes clear he’s s generational talent who will make everyone else on that offense better .

“So Penny is going to rack up 1500 yards/15 TD's? Of course, you have to add the caveat "if healthy", of which odds are he won't be, so you can't go wrong. How about telling us what you think his totals will be at the end of the season, period? I'm saying that we'll be lucky if it's half that amount.[/quote]
Yeah if healthy . I gave you my totals . If not who the F knows ? It depends on when he gets hurt . Ask Derrick Henry . Why do you root for people to fail ? To win an Internet argument ? Pathetic . You debbies will gag on crow.

[Aseahawkfan]

Yeah if healthy . I gave you my totals . If not who the F knows ? It depends on when he gets hurt . Ask Derrick Henry . Why do you root for people to fail ? To win an Internet argument ? Pathetic . You debbies will gag on crow.

Only person who will be gagging on crow this year is you who will probably hide after things go downhill quick. Then you'll likely disappear for a while and this forum will become a ranting ground for people really pissed off at how bad this season is going calling for Pete's head.

Whereas I'll stick to my plan to wait a few years.

RD will probably be calling for Pete's head by midseason if not sooner.

[RiverDog]

Yeah if healthy . I gave you my totals . If not who the F knows ? It depends on when he gets hurt . Ask Derrick Henry . Why do you root for people to fail ? To win an Internet argument ? Pathetic . You debbies will gag on crow.

Who said I was rooting for Penny or any other Seahawk to fail? I don't understand how it is that you interpret doubts about one or more of our players as rooting for them to fail. Are you questioning my credentials as a die hard Seahawks fan? And what's with the name calling? Pathetic? Really!

RD will probably be calling for Pete's head by midseason if not sooner.

I doubt if I'll be calling for Pete's head that early. I've sworn to myself to keep an open mind this season, to see if I can detect any progress towards a rebuild that would justify his continuance, and unless we start out 0-8 or 1-7, midseason seems too premature to make that kind of judgment.

But unlike others, I am not giving him a free pass this season. We haven't hired a new coach, we're seeing if an old coach can recapture his magic that he lost a number of years ago, something that's a rarity in this game. I won't be cutting him as much slack as I would a first year coach.

[Hawktawk]

The disrespect of Pete Carroll is shameful but perfectly ok here . He won the second most games last ten years. I think he knows what’s happening . Ask Russ and his boy Nathan if Pete knows anything on the 12th. Just don’t criticize former guy What I took from the statement was his feeling it’s a pain tolerance issue. Pete has made a lot of interesting and pointed statements , not just happy talk .

Asea”
We all know how Pete talks and you have to take what he says with a grain of salt to lessen the positive sweetness of his "everything is great" speak until we find out Kenneth Walker won't be back for weeks and the "procedure" was a lot more invasive and worse than expected. We've literally heard of him doing this many, many times. He underestimates injuries and recovery times all the time. It's like when you blamed Russ for somehow forcing his way back in to playing after his finger injury without ever bothering to realize Pete decides who plays based on what he sees during practice, not Russ. So Pete decided Russ looked ready to play and let him play. For all of us watching it was obvious Russ wasn't fully recovered from his finger injury. But Pete thought Russ with a hurt finger was better than a healthy Geno. But somehow you blame Russ for that even though he doesn't have the power to force his way into games and if Pete thought Geno was playing better as you have stated to us a 1000 times, he would have played Geno. But Pete thought Russ was a better option to win than Geno and you still don't want to admit that because you think QBs have magical powers to override their coaches even though they don't.

Pete literally disagreed with you by his actions. Pete thought Russ with a hurt finger was better than Geno with his amazing 3 game run that you bring up over and over and over again could play better than Geno. I guess Pete was wrong in your mind as he decides who plays from week to week.[/quote]

Don’t go there with the GD finger . Pete proved his respect for Russel by taking him at his word he was ready which shoots down the Pete sat on Russ and held him down . Pete showed Russ the benefit of the doubt due to the body of work . But of course it was a complete sham , a made for social media chronicle of the incredible healing powers of Russ . It was on Russ . He knew better . And Pete said REPEATEDLY “ Geno was ready , he played great “ “ Russel said he was ready “ when explaining another turd performance from his royal highness .
Don’t start with the finger . As Geno tweeted post Green Bay “ I’d like to vent but it’s not safe “
Trust me Geno the fans vented for you buddy. It was a circus .

[NorthHawk]

It's really quite simple.

Pete has final say on personnel decisions.
He says who starts and who doesn't. He saw Russell in practice and let him play.
Any substandard performance resultant from the finger issue is on Pete - or that Geno was even worse than an injured Wilson.

[Hawktawk]

It's really quite simple.

Pete has final say on personnel decisions.
He says who starts and who doesn't. He saw Russell in practice and let him play.
Any substandard performance resultant from the finger issue is on Pete - or that Geno was even worse than an injured Wilson.

Yeah 80 % completion and 3 TDs and a 138 rating was worse then a shutout . Pretty clear when Pete said a week before Green Bay it would be “ really close “ whether Russ could go and a few hours later Russ and his personal physician declare him better then new . What’s Carrol to do ? He’s handing off left handed , inaccurate but he’s Russell Fing Wilson who has played hurt before albeit usually with a good team around him . Does Pete tell the guy fastest to 100 wins in history to take a seat . He trusted him and the dude was looking at Denver film shortly after . A complete waste . Pete made a mistake but Russ was dishonest with him . Almost 2 months after the injury Russ comes out and says how tough it really was , couldn’t warm up. That was before he hung up 13 on the commanders . Had he sat another 3 weeks we may have been a playoff team .

I’ve seen great QBs remove themselves from the field for the good of the team . Not Russ .

[Aseahawkfan]

I doubt if I'll be calling for Pete's head that early. I've sworn to myself to keep an open mind this season, to see if I can detect any progress towards a rebuild that would justify his continuance, and unless we start out 0-8 or 1-7, midseason seems too premature to make that kind of judgment.

But unlike others, I am not giving him a free pass this season. We haven't hired a new coach, we're seeing if an old coach can recapture his magic that he lost a number of years ago, something that's a rarity in this game. I won't be cutting him as much slack as I would a first year coach.

My feeling, though I can't prove it, is a lot of people drink during Seahawks gams or football games period. They drink more as the game goes on. If things are going badly, drunkenly rant on their favorite forum calling for heads of whoever happens to stand out as the bad performer. That is what it seems like as the season progresses badly.

I think this season is going to be a very down season with no early hope looking up. I think we'll see a lot of drunken ranting as the season progresses.

[Aseahawkfan]

Don’t go there with the GD finger . Pete proved his respect for Russel by taking him at his word he was ready which shoots down the Pete sat on Russ and held him down . Pete showed Russ the benefit of the doubt due to the body of work . But of course it was a complete sham , a made for social media chronicle of the incredible healing powers of Russ . It was on Russ . He knew better . And Pete said REPEATEDLY “ Geno was ready , he played great “ “ Russel said he was ready “ when explaining another turd performance from his royal highness .
Don’t start with the finger . As Geno tweeted post Green Bay “ I’d like to vent but it’s not safe “
Trust me Geno the fans vented for you buddy. It was a circus .

You're full of cow pucky. Pete first listens to the doctors. Then he watches the player play. Then he decides if he is ready to go. He doesn't "take the player's word." You're so full of it your breath stinks.

Pete made the call to play Russ based on what he saw in practice and the info from the doctors. For you admitting that means you gotta criticize Pete for that decision and you have to admit that Pete thinks Russ even with a bad finger is way better than Geno, you would never admit that even though it's the truth. If we could magically make Pete tell the truth, he would laugh and tell you straight up, "Russell is many times better than Geno or Lock and we got rid of him not for lack of ability, but for other reasons."