Going to MNF

[Hawktawk]

Just got word from my best friend on the planet he has tickets for Hawks Donks and accommodations at edgewater for by 63rd birthday ! It was an annual tradition until covid . I’ll be curious the fan reaction . I won’t boo Russ but I will heckle the s#it out of him like every opposing qb till my voice is gone !
GO HAWKS!

[NorthHawk]

What a great birthday gift!
Maybe the Hawks will pull a rabbit out of a hat for the occasion.

[Aseahawkfan]

I expect Seahawks fans to do what they do to Russ when he comes. Gotta give him the noise treatment to see if he can adjust without being able to communicate verbally. Russ knows what's coming for him.

Nice birthday gift. You'll give us a nice firsthand account of the game up close.

[Hawktawk]

We will lose by 30 most likely now that I’m going seriously I have a pretty decent record live . Even beast quake . I think it’s gonna be a slobber knocker

[RiverDog]

Excellent!

I have tickets to the Hawks-Lions in Detroit, and there's some discussion about us going to the Falcons game in Seattle.

[Hawktawk]

Nice!

[RiverDog]

We're holding off on buying tickets to the Falcons game. After last night's preseason game, the consensus is that there is going to be a massive sell off by the time Week 3 rolls around.

[Hawktawk]

We're holding off on buying tickets to the Falcons game. After last night's preseason game, the consensus is that there is going to be a massive sell off by the time Week 3 rolls around.

Lol yeah well rams lost to the Texans and Donkeys lost 42-15 to Buffalo . It’s my understanding Russ the magnificent won’t play in the preseason . I love it . I’d get the tickets . They won’t go down in 3 weeks .

[TriCitySam]

I sold my Broncos tix yesterday at 3.25X - will help me stave off losses on later tix

[RiverDog]

I sold my Broncos tix yesterday at 3.25X - will help me stave off losses on later tix

Smart.

Prior to the start of last season, I bought 4 tickets to the Jacksonville home game for $170. A few days before the game, those same tickets were selling on Stub Hub for $35. I'm not making the same mistake this season.

[Hawktawk]

If anyone made a “ mistake “ it was my buddy who chose this game for my birthday which is actually the 25th . I have no idea what he paid for them but I’m sure plenty as we never sit above lower 200
Level and usually 100 . I hope it’s a good game as much for him as me if not more . He shops around and as a retired MCD exec he has connections but I know this was spendy. I had told him I though we had a chance in the game and next I heard I was going . I’ve never gotten to the point where I game shop based on economics .
I will be at a weird historical game and I hope I’m screaming ride it back to denver donkeys with a whisper of a voice .

[RiverDog]

If anyone made a “ mistake “ it was my buddy who chose this game for my birthday which is actually the 25th . I have no idea what he paid for them but I’m sure plenty as we never sit above lower 200
Level and usually 100 . I hope it’s a good game as much for him as me if not more . He shops around and as a retired MCD exec he has connections but I know this was spendy. I had told him I though we had a chance in the game and next I heard I was going . I’ve never gotten to the point where I game shop based on economics .
I will be at a weird historical game and I hope I’m screaming ride it back to denver donkeys with a whisper of a voice .

Win, lose, or draw, I'm sure that you'll have a blast! Getting out of the furnace in eastern Washington and into the cool September ocean breeze of Seattle is always a welcome reprieve. The problem is that parking and traffic can be a real b**** on a weekday afternoon in the Sodo district, so you'd be wise to leave in plenty of time and get there before the afternoon exodus.

[Hawktawk]

We always stay and always at the edgewater . My buddy is a creature of habit . We Uber to sluggers a few hours before the game to front end load . After the game it depends how it went what’s next . Over the years it’s been everything from a jazz bar where we were the only 2 white people to a gentleman’s club . We’re getting old now so probably a nightcap at the edgewater and to bed . Being with a friend like Dale is the highlight and he sees it the same . We both hate losing . It will matter . Looking forward to it after a 3 year sabbatical .

[TriCitySam]

Hawks stay at Hyatt Regency in Bellevue night before games

[RiverDog]

We always stay and always at the edgewater . My buddy is a creature of habit . We Uber to sluggers a few hours before the game to front end load . After the game it depends how it went what’s next . Over the years it’s been everything from a jazz bar where we were the only 2 white people to a gentleman’s club . We’re getting old now so probably a nightcap at the edgewater and to bed . Being with a friend like Dale is the highlight and he sees it the same . We both hate losing . It will matter . Looking forward to it after a 3 year sabbatical .

The Seattle waterfront is a great place to spend an early September weekend. I haven't been down there in years. Hopefully, it hasn't been overrun by tents and blue tarps.

[Hawktawk]

Just read another attention grabbing quote from Russell . He was talking about what an amazing 10 years he had in Seattle but said the reason he wanted to come to Denver was because he knew they had “ mental leaders “ already and so it wasn’t all going to be on his shoulders anymore .

I apologize for my inability to link by phone but it’s what the man reportedly said . The amount of blackboard material produced pre game by Russ is astronomical . This is going to be a war . So excited !

[Aseahawkfan]

Just read another attention grabbing quote from Russell . He was talking about what an amazing 10 years he had in Seattle but said the reason he wanted to come to Denver was because he knew they had “ mental leaders “ already and so it wasn’t all going to be on his shoulders anymore .

I apologize for my inability to link by phone but it’s what the man reportedly said . The amount of blackboard material produced pre game by Russ is astronomical . This is going to be a war . So excited !

I read that article. Someone really trying to get that pot stirring before Russ comes here. I knew you would be all over that article with Russ saying he no longer has to carry the team. Get you real fired up I imagine.

Russ gotta lose come the 12th. We gotta beat him, start the Broncos on the track down. Improve our draft status by beating the Broncos.

Broncos must be beaten. We gotta take them down anyway we can.

We may not agree on this team, but one thing we can agree on is the Broncos must be beat. That is a huge priority. As far as I'm concerned beating the Broncos and starting them on a downward spiral is our Super Bowl this year.

[RiverDog]

Russ gotta lose come the 12th. We gotta beat him, start the Broncos on the track down. Improve our draft status by beating the Broncos.

Broncos must be beaten. We gotta take them down anyway we can.

We may not agree on this team, but one thing we can agree on is the Broncos must be beat. That is a huge priority. As far as I'm concerned beating the Broncos and starting them on a downward spiral is our Super Bowl this year.

I get the fact that we want to beat the Broncos due to the draft picks of theirs that we own, and unless our own path is affected by the outcome of a game they're in, I'll be rooting for them to lose every contest this season. But other than that, this game has no more importance, and arguably less importance as it's out of our conference, than any other garden variety regular season game.

Last weekend, I visited a friend of mine that lives in Colorado and went into a bar in Denver to get a bite to eat. I was by myself, so I sat at the bar so I could converse with the locals. It was a couple days after that hideous preseason loss to the Bears that was televised nationally on ESPN. I was wearing my Seahawks baseball cap, and there was more than one person that noted my allegiance and laughed at me, asked me if I saw the game. A quarterback tripping on his RB's feet, a special teams player botching a perfect punt, and so on. It was a friendly sort of exchange, not a trash talking or taunting one, but I'll have to admit that I was quite embarrassed, felt like I was walking around with my fly unzipped, like I was a Browns or Lions fan.

I plan on making a couple more road trips this fall to places like Las Vegas, Detroit, and LA, so I guess I'd better get used to being the butt of everyone's jokes. I'm afraid that it's going to be a long, very humbling season.

[Hawktawk]

Wow . Sad story . Really sad you couldn’t stand up for the rag better than that. How about replying well he doesn’t cost 50 million and he wants to be here . Good luck wih Russ . We’re beating his ass in the opener with our clumsy crappy ugly looking qb .


I think Sherm was right . Most Seahawks fans are absolute wusses . Almost all when it comes to this Russell to Denver thing .

F Denver . Screw Russ . We need to send a message and all you Geno Haters need to hear it to . Bring it on .

[Hawktawk]

I’m setting myself up for a letdown but really thankful I haven’t sat around 6 months repeating we will suck over and over . Is that all you people have ?

[RiverDog]

Wow . Sad story . Really sad you couldn’t stand up for the rag better than that. How about replying well he doesn’t cost 50 million and he wants to be here . Good luck wih Russ . We’re beating his ass in the opener with our clumsy crappy ugly looking qb .


I think Sherm was right . Most Seahawks fans are absolute wusses . Almost all when it comes to this Russell to Denver thing .

F Denver . Screw Russ . We need to send a message and all you Geno Haters need to hear it to . Bring it on .

Where was it that I said anything about Russell? He's your obsession, not mine. The conversation was about our horrible performance vs. the Bears and had nothing to do with our impending MNF contest or the trade.

And as I said, it wasn't a confrontational situation, so there's no need for you to imply that I'm a wuss. Besides, what do you want this 67-year-old coffin dodger to do? Get into a bar fight over a stupid football remark?

[trents]

So let's put aside all the frustrations, fanboy pride, anger, disappointments, bravado and all the emotional stuff and get down to where the rubber hits the road. What do you predict the final score will be for the Hawks-Broncos game? What are the strong points and weal points of each team and how will it play out in the course of the game and what will be the final outcome?

Here's what I see:
1. Denver has some advantage on defense. In fact, almost every team we play will have that. We will have poor penetration at the LOS and poor tackling.
2. Special teams may give Denver a slight advantage. Except for Jason Meyer, our special teams play was abysmal last year and I saw nothing in preseason to believe it has improved.
3. Offense: Hawks will have some advantage on the ground but Broncos have the better QB. Although, Russ has to contend with learning a new system so there will be some plays where the Bronco offensive gang will not be on the same page. G. Smith has the advantage of having played in the same system for awhile but he does not have the talent that Russ has. Hawks may have the advantage when it comes to the receiving corps.

Prediction: Broncos 24, Seahawks 16.

[RiverDog]

So let's put aside all the frustrations, fanboy pride, anger, disappointments, bravado and all the emotional stuff and get down to where the rubber hits the road. What do you predict the final score will be for the Hawks-Broncos game? What are the strong points and weal points of each team and how will it play out in the course of the game and what will be the final outcome?

Here's what I see:
1. Denver has some advantage on defense. In fact, almost every team we play will have that. We will have poor penetration at the LOS and poor tackling.
2. Special teams may give Denver a slight advantage. Except for Jason Meyer, our special teams play was abysmal last year and I saw nothing in preseason to believe it has improved.
3. Offense: Hawks will have some advantage on the ground but Broncos have the better QB. Although, Russ has to contend with learning a new system so there will be some plays where the Bronco offensive gang will not be on the same page. G. Smith has the advantage of having played in the same system for awhile but he does not have the talent that Russ has. Hawks may have the advantage when it comes to the receiving corps.

Prediction: Broncos 24, Seahawks 16.

I didn't follow the Broncos very closely last season, so I don't have a good handle on their strengths and weaknesses. However, the Broncos have a decent running game, and we've had our problems stopping the run, something that doesn't appear to have improved over the offseason. My sense is that we lose by two scores.

Broncos 21, Seahawks 10.

[Aseahawkfan]

Hmmmm. Seattle versus the Broncos. Hard to call this one.

Broncos are starting a brand new coach in Nathaniel Hackett. He's completely unproven. No experience as a head coach. Made his name being OC for Aaron Rodgers which is like being an acting coach for Daniel Day Lewis. You basically coached up a guy who was going to be great if you didn't show up at all.

Broncos have two good running backs. Decent WRs and a much better QB. Not sure about the Denver defense. They lost their two best pass rushers in Von Miller and Shelby Harris. Not sure how good they are at stopping the run.

Seattle has much better position players and a pretty deep stable of RBs. A lot will depend on how well our tackles do against starters. Our defense is pretty suspect and once again will depend on how well our rookie CBs do out of the gate. The health of our safeties is important too. LBs will likely do a solid job. Not sure about the pass rusher or ability to stop the run. Defense is a toss op.

I'm going Seattle 20 Denver 17. I don't like picking Seattle to lose, so I never really do. If some of these rooks work out, our run game is as strong as it looks in the preseason, and Denver's new head coach can't game plan very well, we might just take them down.

[Stream Hawk]

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The Seattle waterfront is a great place to spend an early September weekend. I haven't been down there in years. Hopefully, it hasn't been overrun by tents and blue tarps.

I was there for the M’s fame today. Holy hell the entire Sodo district is a mess! My 9 year old swore he saw a dead body - it turned out to be just a sleeping guy/gal. Maybe was dead. There was piss everywhere and so much poverty and mental illness. But at least the Mariners are kicking ass! The city needs to figure out some stuff.

On a related note I’ll be attending the mnf game too! Very concerned we will get embarrassed, but hope I’m very wrong!

[RiverDog]

The Seattle waterfront is a great place to spend an early September weekend. I haven't been down there in years. Hopefully, it hasn't been overrun by tents and blue tarps.

I was there for the M’s fame today. Holy hell the entire Sodo district is a mess! My 9 year old swore he saw a dead body - it turned out to be just a sleeping guy/gal. Maybe was dead. There was piss everywhere and so much poverty and mental illness. But at least the Mariners are kicking ass! The city needs to figure out some stuff.

On a related note I’ll be attending the mnf game too! Very concerned we will get embarrassed, but hope I’m very wrong!

Yeah, that was my experience the last time I visited the waterfront. It used to be a cool area to visit, a nice escape from the hot eastern Washington summers. Back in the 90's, I used to meet up with some old college buddies for a M's game, bar hop in Pioneer Square after the game, and we had a blast. Now, it's just disgusting.

I don't think that we'll get embarrassed on MNF like we did in the Bears preseason game, but I wouldn't be shocked if we did. The team looks pretty dysfunctional at the moment.

[Hawktawk]

It needs its own thread but for now …….Russ spent the summer jet setting around the globe having his people he surrounds himself with keep him up to date on the offense (per Hackett) he was described by the editor of denver fan .com as “ underwhelming “ in TC
He didn’t take a snap in the preseason and he’s coming to match up with a defensive coach who knows him better then he knows himself . Their roster couldn’t make the playoffs for over half a Decade . We got Fant who Geno will abuse linebackers with over and over because he throws in the middle , and Harris a nice defender .

We have a fired up coach , team and fans in prime time . Geno is the most disrespected Seattle QB in history and he’s got a big surprise coming with a far superior skill set to utilize .

Seattle 27-donkeys 13.

[Aseahawkfan]

It needs its own thread but for now …….Russ spent the summer jet setting around the globe having his people he surrounds himself with keep him up to date on the offense (per Hackett) he was described by the editor of denver fan .com as “ underwhelming “ in TC
He didn’t take a snap in the preseason and he’s coming to match up with a defensive coach who knows him better then he knows himself . Their roster couldn’t make the playoffs for over half a Decade . We got Fant who Geno will abuse linebackers with over and over because he throws in the middle , and Harris a nice defender .

We have a fired up coach , team and fans in prime time . Geno is the most disrespected Seattle QB in history and he’s got a big surprise coming with a far superior skill set to utilize .

Seattle 27-donkeys 13.

Geno sucks. If we win, it will be in spite of him and not because of him. We'll be drafting a starting QB within a year or two. Geno won't last long and Pete hitches his horse to that nag, he won't last long.

Just like your Geno rubbish talk won't last long.

[Hawktawk]

We aren’t beating many teams in spite of Geno ok. No team beats anyone in spite of their qb except the Seahawks a few times in the day . Either he can play or were F#@cjt. Your 20-17 prediction is a joke if you think Geno can’t play . I’ve never heard so much utter rubbish thrown at our HOF coach and our opening day starter . While continuing to defend a little weasel who caused this forced rebuild and put Pete and Geno and Jody who is on board and you and I as well in this position . He’s a little mouthy asshole that needs his mouth shut . We will see which man plays better on the 12th. Till then get some listerene for you foul Seahawk hater mouth .

[RiverDog]

While continuing to defend a little weasel who caused this forced rebuild and put Pete and Geno and Jody who is on board and you and I as well in this position . He’s a little mouthy asshole that needs his mouth shut . We will see which man plays better on the 12th. Till then get some listerene for you foul Seahawk hater mouth .

Holy cow, HT! Now Russell is a little weasel and a mouthy A-hole? I realize that you've lost a lot of respect for him as I have, too, but come on, man! How can you in one breath defend Geno, who after driving drunk at 95+ mph and telling a policeman that he has little d*ck syndrome, then in the next breath call Russell Wilson, a man who as a rookie made it a habit to spend his one day off a week in Children's Hospital entertaining terminally ill kids, an A-hole?

[Hawktawk]

While continuing to defend a little weasel who caused this forced rebuild and put Pete and Geno and Jody who is on board and you and I as well in this position . He’s a little mouthy asshole that needs his mouth shut . We will see which man plays better on the 12th. Till then get some listerene for you foul Seahawk hater mouth .

Holy cow, HT! Now Russell is a little weasel and a mouthy A-hole? I realize that you've lost a lot of respect for him as I have, too, but come on, man! How can you in one breath defend Geno, who after driving drunk at 95+ mph and telling a policeman that he has little d*ck syndrome, then in the next breath call Russell Wilson, a man who as a rookie made it a habit to spend his one day off a week in Children's Hospital entertaining terminally ill kids, an A-hole?[/quote]

Can we stop with trying to lump Russell’s off field charities with his behavior as a member and former member of my 45 year obsession. Most stars have charity’s and Russ has always seemed sincere in that regard . It doesn’t excuse his behavior as a pro athlete and it’s not got a god damn thing to do with Genos DUI .

Only an asshole would leave guys who fought for him , stood up for him and say he’s got “ mental leaders already here and it’s not all on my shoulders anymore “ . Richard Sherman’s re tweet with 100 laugh emoji about covers it . There were the comments about going to a winning city “ a city that knows how to win . All this after basically demanding out with his weasel agent then trying to have it both ways , saying he’s glad to leave but it wasn’t his idea . It was , in the words of Wyman, a forced rebuild . I would have more respect had he pulled a mayfield and said I’m out of here and took the pr hit .

Yeah as a Seahawks qb he was a weasel . As a former teammate of my team he’s a disrespectful asshole. It’s not like he was a backup guard . This was the face of the franchise spinning out like this . Proud of the fact I have eyes to see . Best and worst qb we ever had .

[Aseahawkfan]

Holy cow, HT! Now Russell is a little weasel and a mouthy A-hole? I realize that you've lost a lot of respect for him as I have, too, but come on, man! How can you in one breath defend Geno, who after driving drunk at 95+ mph and telling a policeman that he has little d*ck syndrome, then in the next breath call Russell Wilson, a man who as a rookie made it a habit to spend his one day off a week in Children's Hospital entertaining terminally ill kids, an A-hole?

Can we stop with trying to lump Russell’s off field charities with his behavior as a member and former member of my 45 year obsession. Most stars have charity’s and Russ has always seemed sincere in that regard . It doesn’t excuse his behavior as a pro athlete and it’s not got a god damn thing to do with Genos DUI .

Only an asshole would leave guys who fought for him , stood up for him and say he’s got “ mental leaders already here and it’s not all on my shoulders anymore “ . Richard Sherman’s re tweet with 100 laugh emoji about covers it . There were the comments about going to a winning city “ a city that knows how to win . All this after basically demanding out with his weasel agent then trying to have it both ways , saying he’s glad to leave but it wasn’t his idea . It was , in the words of Wyman, a forced rebuild . I would have more respect had he pulled a mayfield and said I’m out of here and took the pr hit .

Yeah as a Seahawks qb he was a weasel . As a former teammate of my team he’s a disrespectful asshole. It’s not like he was a backup guard . This was the face of the franchise spinning out like this . Proud of the fact I have eyes to see . Best and worst qb we ever had .

Shut the hell up. Team cut Bobby who did not want to leave without even telling him and you got nothing to say on that? Did Bobby say anything bad about the team? Is he a bad guy too?

Only asshole would cut a player who gave everything he had ever year to help the team win without complaining. So if you had any consistent belief system whatsoever you would be mad at Pete and John for cutting Bobby like they did, but you just kept making excuses for treating a veteran player who did everything he could for the team for over a decade.

You're so full of it. Such a damn hypocrite and just always pretending you aren't. I could stomach listen to this looney hypocritical BS that spews forth from your mouth in person. It's bad enough you spew on this forum.

[trents]

Shut the hell up. Team cut Bobby who did not want to leave without even telling him and you got nothing to say on that? Did Bobby say anything bad about the team? Is he a bad guy too?

Only asshole would cut a player who gave everything he had ever year to help the team win without complaining. So if you had any consistent belief system whatsoever you would be mad at Pete and John for cutting Bobby like they did, but you just kept making excuses for treating a veteran player who did everything he could for the team for over a decade.

You're so full of it. Such a damn hypocrite and just always pretending you aren't. I could stomach listen to this looney hypocritical BS that spews forth from your mouth in person. It's bad enough you spew on this forum.

There was a post recently scolding forum users about resorting to homimem responses. This one certainly fits in that category and is just over the top.

[RiverDog]

Shut the hell up. Team cut Bobby who did not want to leave without even telling him and you got nothing to say on that? Did Bobby say anything bad about the team? Is he a bad guy too?

Only asshole would cut a player who gave everything he had ever year to help the team win without complaining. So if you had any consistent belief system whatsoever you would be mad at Pete and John for cutting Bobby like they did, but you just kept making excuses for treating a veteran player who did everything he could for the team for over a decade.

You're so full of it. Such a damn hypocrite and just always pretending you aren't. I could stomach listen to this looney hypocritical BS that spews forth from your mouth in person. It's bad enough you spew on this forum.

There was a post recently scolding forum users about resorting to homimem responses. This one certainly fits in that category and is just over the top.

I agree. This is getting out of hand. Let's do some self-regulating.

[Hawktawk]

What happened to Bobby was sad and I think everyone including Pete and John wishes it had gone smoother . Again it’s a separate topic from your franchise qb putting pressure on the organization to either let him run the show or trade him , spent at least the last 4 off-season speeches complaining about the roster publicly , talking about personal off field projects in season ending pressers . I do not recognize the dude anymore . I met him , shook his hand outside the edgewater with his wife Ashton in 2012. That fresh faced sincere go hawks sold out guy is gone . I’d never have believed Russ would be saying what he’s saying . You do understand when he’s talking about mental leaders in Denver it’s a slap at Bobby , at Lockett who he will greatly miss , at Duane Brown who was loyal as a Dog while his career numbers were being degraded by a guy running into sacks . I guess I better watch my mouth too but I would not want him as a teammate these days . My guess is there’s already Denver guys casting a wary eye on this great leader .
The addition by subtraction factor is greater than I even thought , every new word out of his mouth is fuel for the fire .

[Aseahawkfan]

What happened to Bobby was sad and I think everyone including Pete and John wishes it had gone smoother . Again it’s a separate topic from your franchise qb putting pressure on the organization to either let him run the show or trade him , spent at least the last 4 off-season speeches complaining about the roster publicly , talking about personal off field projects in season ending pressers . I do not recognize the dude anymore . I met him , shook his hand outside the edgewater with his wife Ashton in 2012. That fresh faced sincere go hawks sold out guy is gone . I’d never have believed Russ would be saying what he’s saying . You do understand when he’s talking about mental leaders in Denver it’s a slap at Bobby , at Lockett who he will greatly miss , at Duane Brown who was loyal as a Dog while his career numbers were being degraded by a guy running into sacks . I guess I better watch my mouth too but I would not want him as a teammate these days . My guess is there’s already Denver guys casting a wary eye on this great leader .
The addition by subtraction factor is greater than I even thought , every new word out of his mouth is fuel for the fire .

You talk like such a "team first guy" and loyalty to your team mates and all that hypocritical garbage until Pete and John cut the loyal Bobby without even the courtesy of a phone call.

Don't sell us on that trash about "team loyalty" and all that garbage. If anything after ten years Russell saw Pete and John are loyal to no one and nothing. The NFL is just a business. Pete and John will cut or trade whoever no matter what they've done for the team.

You want to hold Russell to a different standard than Carroll, who also told us there was no trade coming and other BS over the years.

You're just a hypocrite when it comes to Russell and Carroll. Hold Russell up to one standard, then Pete up to another. Doesn't matter if Pete has screwed over Bobby and cut or traded other players who were loyal to the team and gave everything.

HT's gotta talk smack about Russell because that's what he does as builds up some backup QB who is coming a DUI and gives Carroll a pass for cutting the best MLB in Seattle history who laid it on the line for Seattle for ten years who never asked for a trade, never complained, never held out, and just gave his all to the team year after year after year without so much as a respectful phone call. Carroll also traded Russell while telling us they had no intention of trading Russell. Just straight up lied to all of us fans, but he gets a pass because old {b]Hawktawk[/b] just has to have a bad guy and he's decided it's Russell Wilson.

What a crock.

[Aseahawkfan]

[There was a post recently scolding forum users about resorting to homimem responses. This one certainly fits in that category and is just over the top.

Why is a guy allowed to go relentlessly after a player that has done nothing to him? If you're going to make ad hominem attacks on a player, then that should be stopped too.

Can we get some consistency for behavior? Why can you watch this constant ad hominem attacks on Russell Wilson by hawktawk, then you decide to speak up when someone calls him on it?

How about telling the person in question to stop with the ad hominem attacks on the player? How about that?

[Aseahawkfan]

I agree. This is getting out of hand. Let's do some self-regulating.

How about you tell HT to stop making ad hominem aka personal attacks on Russell Wilson? Then it will stop. It's that simple.

The only reason I'm going after HT is I am tired of him being able to make constant personal attacks on Russell Wilson without a peep form anyone on this forum.

Why anyone considers that ok is beyond me.

[RiverDog]

I agree. This is getting out of hand. Let's do some self-regulating.

How about you tell HT to stop making ad hominem aka personal attacks on Russell Wilson? Then it will stop. It's that simple.

The only reason I'm going after HT is I am tired of him being able to make constant personal attacks on Russell Wilson without a peep form anyone on this forum.

Why anyone considers that ok is beyond me.

I'm not a moderator. I'm just asking the two of you as friends to please stop.

[Aseahawkfan]

I'm not a moderator. I'm just asking the two of you as friends to please stop.

Look, I'm not going to sit back and listen to hawktawk make personal attacks on a guy like Russell Wilson. I don't like it. I don't think it's right.

HT questions Russell's football ability I don't care. He wants to call him washed up and he's lost his mobility and can't throw over the middle. That's open for the debate.

But the constant "He's selfish. He's a liar." And the laundry list of personal attacks is not something I should to have read for months on a forum that supposedly doesn't want ad hominem attacks.

I don't do this type of attack on players. I don't do this with any other poster on the football portion of the forum other than HT because of his personal attacks on a player that doesn't deserve it.
personal attacks I have to sift through as I'm reading posts.

No one else on this forum but him does it. No one. They don't even do it for other players from other teams. This guy just non-stop attacking Russell Wilson.

I don't feel like sitting by and ignoring all the time like everyone else appears to do. It's not ok. Just like trents seems to feel when I give it back to HT is how I feel every time I have to read some stupid rant about Russell Wilson's selfishness or he's lying or he's putting the team down or some other trash personal attack.