Adams out "indefinitely"

[RiverDog]

Hopefully, this turns out to be nothing, but it doesn't sound good:

Seahawks’ Jamal Adams out again, to get 2nd medical opinion on surgically repaired fingers

The safety who got a record-setting $70 million contract extension to stay with Seattle last summer will be missing from the team’s training camp indefinitely. After practicing Wednesday in the first workout of camp, Adams “didn’t feel right” with his surgically repaired fingers from this past winter, coach Pete Carroll said. The team’s highest-paid player since Russell Wilson was traded to Denver missed the second practice Thursday, and Adams was nowhere to be seen around the team facility. It sounds like he will be missing for some time. Adams is off to get second opinions from doctors on what do next to relieve the discomfort.

Read more at: https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/n ... rylink=cpy

[NorthHawk]

The worst trade in Seahawks history may have just got worse (if that's possible).

[tarlhawk]

The worst trade in Seahawks history may have just got worse (if that's possible).

Its sad to see someone find glee in another human beings misfortune...or elated vindication of sowing seeds of doom and gloom.

I wish the best for our safety and team as he seeks expert help on an issue that he has "played thru" before...just as he was looking forward to a healthy camp for a change.

[NorthHawk]

Who the hell if finding glee?
It's utter sadness which is the polar opposite.

[tarlhawk]

Then why point out the possibility of the "worse" trade in Seahawks history becoming worst ? His health and defensive value are key to the ceiling of our defensive rebound...

[NorthHawk]

Then why point out the possibility of the "worse" trade in Seahawks history becoming worst ? His health and defensive value are key to the ceiling of our defensive rebound...

Because it's the worst trade in Seahawks history and getting worse!

[RiverDog]

The worst trade in Seahawks history may have just got worse (if that's possible).

Well, we're not quite there yet, but it's getting close to that.

And please, don't anyone say that you can't consider it a bad trade because we couldn't predict his injuries. Even when he's been healthy, we never found a role for him. Except for the first few games he appeared in when we had absolutely zero pass rush, he not only hasn't contributed, he's been a liability in pass coverage.

[mykc14]

This is really bad news. He has had issues with his fingers for years, finally gets them fixed and then bam, more discomfort. Why is he just figuring this out now, though? Unless the discomfort just started yesterday why not get the second opinion a month ago? Hopefully everything checks out and he's good to go ASAP, but him missing another training camp is definitely not good news. The worst trade in franchise history keeps on getting worse and worse.

[RiverDog]

This is really bad news. He has had issues with his fingers for years, finally gets them fixed and then bam, more discomfort. Why is he just figuring this out now, though? Unless the discomfort just started yesterday why not get the second opinion a month ago? Hopefully everything checks out and he's good to go ASAP, but him missing another training camp is definitely not good news. The worst trade in franchise history keeps on getting worse and worse.

Why is he just figuring this out now, though?

That's what I was thinking, too. It's not like your fingers are subjected to some sort of unique stress in contact football that can't be replicated by any other means. Seems strange.

[Rambo2014]

Good gawd! What a team of pansies and crooks! Guess when your an NFL farm team that is what u get.

Haha have a great season and watch the Rams cruise

[Old but Slow]

If there is a plus in this, it is that it can be an opportunity for a young player to step up who might otherwise be overlooked.

While not an Adams fan, I do want him healthy and contributing, and I would dearly love to eat some crow if he turns in a great season.

[RiverDog]

If there is a plus in this, it is that it can be an opportunity for a young player to step up who might otherwise be overlooked.

While not an Adams fan, I do want him healthy and contributing, and I would dearly love to eat some crow if he turns in a great season.

Yeah, crow would taste a lot better than the humble pie I think we're going to be served.

I was actually neutral on the trade when it happened. Up until then, I had trusted that at least when it came to defense, the Pete knew what he was doing, knew the types of players he needed for his system. The JA trade was a fork in the road for me with regards to my opinion of Pete's competence as a football coach. After seeing the results of this trade, along with some other defensive whiffs like LJ Collier, I've changed my mind.

[obiken]

Then why point out the possibility of the "worse" trade in Seahawks history becoming worst ? His health and defensive value are key to the ceiling of our defensive rebound...

But you acted like NH was happy about the injury, he was not, but NH is correct, this is just another in a long line of them. No one is happy about it. Sorry he is right, not because he has a bigger injury bug than Marcus Tubbs, its because you DONT give up and Pay out that much for a box safety, especially when the league is trending toward offense. So let ME say, I am sorry for JA, but like Will Smith said in the movie I-Robot, the words I told you so, dont adequately describe how I fell right now.

[mykc14]

Looks like it's a new injury and he actually broke his finger during the first practice, which makes sense why the discomfort is just now showing up. Good that it doesn't seem to have anything to do with his previous injuries, bad that the dude keeps hurting his fingers.


https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/7/29/23 ... -adam-jude

[RiverDog]

Looks like it's a new injury and he actually broke his finger during the first practice, which makes sense why the discomfort is just now showing up. Good that it doesn't seem to have anything to do with his previous injuries, bad that the dude keeps hurting his fingers.


https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/7/29/23 ... -adam-jude

Yes, that would explain it. But it will take a miracle for him to get through a 17 game season without getting injured somewhere along the line. We need to take bets on who misses a game first, Adams or Penny.

[Aseahawkfan]

But you acted like NH was happy about the injury, he was not, but NH is correct, this is just another in a long line of them. No one is happy about it. Sorry he is right, not because he has a bigger injury bug than Marcus Tubbs, its because you DONT give up and Pay out that much for a box safety, especially when the league is trending toward offense. So let ME say, I am sorry for JA, but like Will Smith said in the movie I-Robot, the words I told you so, dont adequately describe how I fell right now.

This is how I see it regardless of health. If Adams were Earl, I could sort of see it as Earl was an amazing cover safety that QBs feared who allowed you to do run with a lesser quality CB on at least one side he was so good. But Adams is not Earl. More of a thumper with some pass rush ability. A little bit like a Kam, but not quite as big or fearsome.

But a strong safety with marginal pass defense abilities we traded two first round picks for was a bad idea.

[Aseahawkfan]

Yes, that would explain it. But it will take a miracle for him to get through a 17 game season without getting injured somewhere along the line. We need to take bets on who misses a game first, Adams or Penny.

Penny came into camp at 245. Hopefully that doesn't impact his speed and elusiveness. I imagine we'll see soon enough. I would not be surprised if behind the scenes there were concerns about Penny's motivation to maximize his talent is why no one signed him to a long-term deal after his six game run.

[RiverDog]

Yes, that would explain it. But it will take a miracle for him to get through a 17 game season without getting injured somewhere along the line. We need to take bets on who misses a game first, Adams or Penny.

Penny came into camp at 245. Hopefully that doesn't impact his speed and elusiveness. I imagine we'll see soon enough. I would not be surprised if behind the scenes there were concerns about Penny's motivation to maximize his talent is why no one signed him to a long-term deal after his six game run.

245? Where did you see that? This article claims Penny weighed in at 237, about the same he's always been:

Coming off a breakthrough finish to the 2021 season with a new contract in tow, Seahawks running back Rashaad Penny seems to have finally figured everything out, reporting for camp at a lean 237 pounds on Tuesday and wowing coach Pete Carroll in the process.

And here's Pete's typical hype:

“Rashaad is in great shape," Carroll told reporters after Wednesday's first practice. "Just cut, sharp, fast, and excited because he had such a great offseason. He looked terrific, he couldn’t wait to get out here and just run. He really wanted to show us that he could go, and he looked just like he did when we finished out at the end, so it was really fun to see.”


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/in ... r-AA104rGv

[Aseahawkfan]

245? Where did you see that? This article claims Penny weighed in at 237, about the same he's always been:

Coming off a breakthrough finish to the 2021 season with a new contract in tow, Seahawks running back Rashaad Penny seems to have finally figured everything out, reporting for camp at a lean 237 pounds on Tuesday and wowing coach Pete Carroll in the process.

And here's Pete's typical hype:

“Rashaad is in great shape," Carroll told reporters after Wednesday's first practice. "Just cut, sharp, fast, and excited because he had such a great offseason. He looked terrific, he couldn’t wait to get out here and just run. He really wanted to show us that he could go, and he looked just like he did when we finished out at the end, so it was really fun to see.”


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/in ... r-AA104rGv

I heard it from a buddy who was listening to Carroll during training camp. Penny was drafted at 220. 237 seems a bit high for his playing weight. At least Pete is psyched up, then again when is Pete not psyched up.

[Hawktawk]

Penny is in perfect condition and said the other day he’s playing with a huge chip on his shoulder . And hearing Adams has a broken finger is good news in a way . I think he hurts himself because he is so violent and strong he tackles with one arm if he doesn’t get a square shot on someone . He hip rolled an offensive linemen with one arm last season . He plays with reckless abandon . It sucks. Seattle is the most injury prone team I’m aware of in terms of high value draft picks , key starters etc . It has nothing to do with Pete and Johns generally excellent evaluation of talent .

We can beat up the trade for him but I just don’t recall the screaming when he had 9.5 sacks . I’m rooting for him to get healthy and for Penny to stay healthy . If there’s people here that want to bet on who gets hurt first have at your negative karma .

GO HAWKS! SHOCK THE WORLD

[RiverDog]

245? Where did you see that? This article claims Penny weighed in at 237, about the same he's always been:

Coming off a breakthrough finish to the 2021 season with a new contract in tow, Seahawks running back Rashaad Penny seems to have finally figured everything out, reporting for camp at a lean 237 pounds on Tuesday and wowing coach Pete Carroll in the process.

And here's Pete's typical hype:

“Rashaad is in great shape," Carroll told reporters after Wednesday's first practice. "Just cut, sharp, fast, and excited because he had such a great offseason. He looked terrific, he couldn’t wait to get out here and just run. He really wanted to show us that he could go, and he looked just like he did when we finished out at the end, so it was really fun to see.”


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/in ... r-AA104rGv

I heard it from a buddy who was listening to Carroll during training camp. Penny was drafted at 220. 237 seems a bit high for his playing weight. At least Pete is psyched up, then again when is Pete not psyched up.

Yeah, like I've said before, I've never seen an optimist like Pete Carroll. That's why it was so strange to see him walk out of a presser last season. It was completely out of character for him.

It's hard to tell what kind of shape players are in by looking at their weigh ins, but yeah, 237 is quite a bit of weight to carry for a guy that's just 5'11". Penny's had a history of muscle pulls and strains. He had a muscle strain a couple months ago in OTA's.

[Aseahawkfan]

Yeah, like I've said before, I've never seen an optimist like Pete Carroll. That's why it was so strange to see him walk out of a presser last season. It was completely out of character for him.

It's hard to tell what kind of shape players are in by looking at their weigh ins, but yeah, 237 is quite a bit of weight to carry for a guy that's just 5'11". Penny's had a history of muscle pulls and strains. He had a muscle strain a couple months ago in OTA's.

Potentially, this is the best offensive skill players we've ever had on the team at one point in time if they all perform up to potential. We've had better at certain positions like Marshawn is better than our current RBs and Jimmy Graham was better than Noah Fant or Dissly. But as far as an overall group, it's looking really good.

Now if the defense and O-line can show some ability, all we'll need is a QB again and we'll be good to go.

[Hawktawk]

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Yeah, like I've said before, I've never seen an optimist like Pete Carroll. That's why it was so strange to see him walk out of a presser last season. It was completely out of character for him.

It's hard to tell what kind of shape players are in by looking at their weigh ins, but yeah, 237 is quite a bit of weight to carry for a guy that's just 5'11". Penny's had a history of muscle pulls and strains. He had a muscle strain a couple months ago in OTA's.

Asea

“Potentially, this is the best offensive skill players we've ever had on the team at one point in time if they all perform up to potential. We've had better at certain positions like Marshawn is better than our current RBs and Jimmy Graham was better than Noah Fant or Dissly. But as far as an overall group, it's looking really good.

Now if the defense and O-line can show some ability, all we'll need is a QB again and we'll be good to go.”

I completely agree on the skill people . And while penny and Fant are not Graham or Beast at this point they have the measurables to be better than those guys at some point . I’ll go one past you and say you don’t need a franchise QB with that group . You need a competent guy and you can win a lot of games , score a lot of points.

[Aseahawkfan]

Asea

“Potentially, this is the best offensive skill players we've ever had on the team at one point in time if they all perform up to potential. We've had better at certain positions like Marshawn is better than our current RBs and Jimmy Graham was better than Noah Fant or Dissly. But as far as an overall group, it's looking really good.

Now if the defense and O-line can show some ability, all we'll need is a QB again and we'll be good to go.”

I completely agree on the skill people . And while penny and Fant are not Graham or Beast at this point they have the measurables to be better than those guys at some point . I’ll go one past you and say you don’t need a franchise QB with that group . You need a competent guy and you can win a lot of games , score a lot of points.

If Pete and John can build a high performing defense, we can get by with a good competent QB who can keep the offense consistent.

I still think John Schneider prides himself on finding a great QB in the Green Bay tradition. One thing about Green Bay is they went from Favre to Rodgers. I think it is a point of personal pride for Schneider to find another elite performing QB. If there is one available, he will find one. John knows what makes for a great QB. I trust that as much as I trust Pete to build an incredible defense if the talent is there.

[obiken]

Penny came into camp at 245. Hopefully that doesn't impact his speed and elusiveness. I imagine we'll see soon enough. I would not be surprised if behind the scenes there were concerns about Penny's motivation to maximize his talent is why no one signed him to a long-term deal after his six game run.

Oh you have to be kidding!! 245! No way he gets into shape until mid season AF, damn it!! Cowherd is predicting 3 wins, I am predicting 5, ugwy season!

[Aseahawkfan]

Oh you have to be kidding!! 245! No way he gets into shape until mid season AF, damn it!! Cowherd is predicting 3 wins, I am predicting 5, ugwy season!

I think a lot will be riding on O-line performance. If Cross is a slow starter and the rest of the O-line don't play well, gonna be a long season.

[RiverDog]

Oh you have to be kidding!! 245! No way he gets into shape until mid season AF, damn it!! Cowherd is predicting 3 wins, I am predicting 5, ugwy season!

I think a lot will be riding on O-line performance. If Cross is a slow starter and the rest of the O-line don't play well, gonna be a long season.

Yeah, the O-line is the key. If PFF's assessment of our OL is anywhere near accurate, it's going to be a long season. Both Geno and Lock have had a history of bad ball security, and even a marginal OL would put them under a whole helluva lot of stress. We need those big uglies to gel quickly.

[trents]

I was never that impressed with Jimmy Graham. He did give us a lot of TDs once in the red zone but in the open field he was MIA.

[jshawaii22]

Adams back at practice today, so as usual, the "first to get the scoop" was totally wrong. He's going to have a custom 2 finger cast during the season for his 2 fingers and probably have another operation next off-season.

[RiverDog]

Adams back at practice today, so as usual, the "first to get the scoop" was totally wrong. He's going to have a custom 2 finger cast during the season for his 2 fingers and probably have another operation next off-season.

You can't really blame 'the scoop' for getting it wrong. Both Pete and Adams himself made the assumption that it was related to his surgery. Pete indicated that he was "getting opinions" and said that Adams was "really concerned." That's not on the journalist.

[RiverDog]

It sounds like Adams will have yet another surgery:

Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that Adams will return to practice with a club on his hand. He’ll play while wearing a special cast.

Surgery after the season, per the report, is “likely.”

Obviously, the apparatus will make it harder for Adams to use the hand, reducing the likelihood of interceptions and fumble recoveries.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... en-finger/

As a Seahawk, Adams already has more surgeries than he has interceptions.

[NorthHawk]

He's supposed to be wearing a special cast for his finger.
How is that going to affect his tackling? He was already bad with ball skills, but this makes it worse.
If he has only 1 usable hand, it makes it tough to play Safety at the highest level.

[tarlhawk]

Great news that he'll return to camp and be able to play...the freak injury occurred right at the end of the day getting a finger stuck and broken in a teammates face mask.

[RiverDog]

Great news that he'll return to camp and be able to play...the freak injury occurred right at the end of the day getting a finger stuck and broken in a teammates face mask.

I like how you paint a smiley face on every dark cloud. Great news? Not hardly.

Overall, the news is not good. DB's need full use of their hands and all 10 digits to be completely effective. Plus it's another long term injury as he's likely going to need surgery...again...at the end of the season before he can be completely healed.

But in all fairness, I have to point out that we tend to look at news like this in a vacuum, or in other words, only as they relate to our team. Other teams have injuries, too.

[Hawktawk]

“Potentially, this is the best offensive skill players we've ever had on the team at one point in time if they all perform up to potential. We've had better at certain positions like Marshawn is better than our current RBs and Jimmy Graham was better than Noah Fant or Dissly. But as far as an overall group, it's looking really good.

Now if the defense and O-line can show some ability, all we'll need is a QB again and we'll be good to go.”

“I completely agree on the skill people . And while penny and Fant are not Graham or Beast at this point they have the measurables to be better than those guys at some point . I’ll go one past you and say you don’t need a franchise QB with that group . You need a competent guy and you can win a lot of games , score a lot of points.”

If Pete and John can build a high performing defense, we can get by with a good competent QB who can keep the offense consistent.

I still think John Schneider prides himself on finding a great QB in the Green Bay tradition. One thing about Green Bay is they went from Favre to Rodgers. I think it is a point of personal pride for Schneider to find another elite performing QB. If there is one available, he will find one. John knows what makes for a great QB. I trust that as much as I trust Pete to build an incredible defense if the talent is there.

I agree on the defense part . That’s what confuses me . It’s the model we won with . Great defense , excellent special teams and a ground and pound then take your shot over the top offense . Teams like that can win a lot of games . I look at tennesse and it’s an argument for and against the likely 2022 hawks model . Great defense . Bell cow back although he missed much of the season . A journeyman QB in Tannehill . 2 big time wideouts . Unfortunately Tannehill figured out how to waste a 9 sack defensive performance against Burrow with 3 picks . So that is argument against the journeymen model . Although several have Lombardis .

I think our D will be the most improved unit and will be helped by an offense that may not be dynamic initially but will move the chains more consistently . Just a hunch . I’ve been in Vegas and not following the training camp news but I heard neither Geno or Lock looked real sharp day one so let’s see. If our QB sucks as suck . If they are merely competent , run the offense and secure the ball we will be OK this year . Just a hunch . We’re gonna know what we have soon. I have yet to be convinced John and Pete are not going to do what they said which is go with someone they already have . Lock is the question mark there but as you say John likes finding talented QBs and he loved the guy . If he’s holding a clipboard watching Geno freakin smith play maybe John isn’t that slick at identifying QB talent , just lucky once . That or they saw something in Geno nobody else did including yours truly . I feel good. Better then I should . Maybe I’m deluded . We shall see .

[Aseahawkfan]

I agree on the defense part . That’s what confuses me . It’s the model we won with . Great defense , excellent special teams and a ground and pound then take your shot over the top offense . Teams like that can win a lot of games . I look at tennesse and it’s an argument for and against the likely 2022 hawks model . Great defense . Bell cow back although he missed much of the season . A journeyman QB in Tannehill . 2 big time wideouts . Unfortunately Tannehill figured out how to waste a 9 sack defensive performance against Burrow with 3 picks . So that is argument against the journeymen model . Although several have Lombardis .

I think our D will be the most improved unit and will be helped by an offense that may not be dynamic initially but will move the chains more consistently . Just a hunch . I’ve been in Vegas and not following the training camp news but I heard neither Geno or Lock looked real sharp day one so let’s see. If our QB sucks as suck . If they are merely competent , run the offense and secure the ball we will be OK this year . Just a hunch . We’re gonna know what we have soon. I have yet to be convinced John and Pete are not going to do what they said which is go with someone they already have . Lock is the question mark there but as you say John likes finding talented QBs and he loved the guy . If he’s holding a clipboard watching Geno freakin smith play maybe John isn’t that slick at identifying QB talent , just lucky once . That or they saw something in Geno nobody else did including yours truly . I feel good. Better then I should . Maybe I’m deluded . We shall see .

As much as I like and will miss Russ, I would rather have a domineering defense and run game with a good passing game myself. I love being the bully. For about five years there we were the bully. Best defense in the NFL with a run game that punched you in the mouth. I love that myself. Russ was like having a cherry on top of a big old sundae that was about as close to a dynasty as Seattle ever had. If we had that team with Paul Allen as owner back in the 80s or early 90s with Pete as head coach, we probably have four or five Super Bowls as we would have had no trouble keeping the team together, paying them all, then buying expensive free agents like the Cowboys and 49ers used to do.

But that salary cap did it's job and made it so we couldn't pay everyone and keep them happy as the team slowly eroded. The Legion of the Boom was the best defense of the last decade and the best defense since Baltimore and Tampa Bay in the 2000s. The Tampa Bay defense was given a gift when they faced off against their former head coach's team who knew the Raiders entire playbook. They tore them apart because of it. Tampa Bay and Baltimore didn't have four years of number one in points allowed and they certainly weren't as entertaining as the Legion of Boom.

In reality, I've gotten over Russell leaving. The only problem I ever had with you was the personal shots at Russell. The football analysis about Russ falling off I've heard from tons of people for years. Regardless of the football analysis, Russ is a great human being. But he's gone and time to move on. And I want my vicious defense back. I want to smack people again. I want to be the bully again, not the finesse passing game.

I never enjoyed football more in my entire life than when the Legion of Boom was smacking people down and Marshawn Lynch was causing Beastquakes. I laughed my ass off if Marshawn made it past the front seven into the secondary and all those DBs and safeties suddenly looked like deers caught in the headlights of a mack truck and Marshawn was about to run over them.

[Hawktawk]

Agree completely

[RiverDog]

As much as I like and will miss Russ, I would rather have a domineering defense and run game with a good passing game myself. I love being the bully. For about five years there we were the bully. Best defense in the NFL with a run game that punched you in the mouth. I love that myself. Russ was like having a cherry on top of a big old sundae that was about as close to a dynasty as Seattle ever had. If we had that team with Paul Allen as owner back in the 80s or early 90s with Pete as head coach, we probably have four or five Super Bowls as we would have had no trouble keeping the team together, paying them all, then buying expensive free agents like the Cowboys and 49ers used to do.

But that salary cap did it's job and made it so we couldn't pay everyone and keep them happy as the team slowly eroded. The Legion of the Boom was the best defense of the last decade and the best defense since Baltimore and Tampa Bay in the 2000s. The Tampa Bay defense was given a gift when they faced off against their former head coach's team who knew the Raiders entire playbook. They tore them apart because of it. Tampa Bay and Baltimore didn't have four years of number one in points allowed and they certainly weren't as entertaining as the Legion of Boom.

In reality, I've gotten over Russell leaving. The only problem I ever had with you was the personal shots at Russell. The football analysis about Russ falling off I've heard from tons of people for years. Regardless of the football analysis, Russ is a great human being. But he's gone and time to move on. And I want my vicious defense back. I want to smack people again. I want to be the bully again, not the finesse passing game.

I never enjoyed football more in my entire life than when the Legion of Boom was smacking people down and Marshawn Lynch was causing Beastquakes. I laughed my ass off if Marshawn made it past the front seven into the secondary and all those DBs and safeties suddenly looked like deers caught in the headlights of a mack truck and Marshawn was about to run over them.

I agree, too. The period of time of the LOB's heyday, ie 2011-2015, was the best Seahawk football ever. I'm not sure if I'd go so far as saying it was the most enjoyable football of my life as I used to personally attend two football games in one day when I was in high school and once or twice a weekend when we were in college, but it was definitely the best since then.

It didn't take me long at all to get over Russell's leaving. As Mykc pointed out, there aren't too many teams that win Lombardi's with QB's pulling down 15%+ of the cap. I also think that Russell's physical skills have diminished, and he has yet to correct for his aging. But I don't go along with the personal attacks and name calling.

[NorthHawk]

That Defense was lights out, but the team could have been that much better if the Offense was allowed to be more creative.
That doesn't mean riskier, but just do different things with different looks and not be so predictable. I was saying that back in 2013 and 2014 when the Defense had a bad game and the Offense couldn't pick them up.
Pete's idea of keeping it close then have a mad scramble at the end to win is actually riskier than his conservative Offense as the laws of average dictate that you are going to lose some games that you should have
won and those losses might just be in the playoffs or cause you to miss out on HFA.

[RiverDog]

That Defense was lights out, but the team could have been that much better if the Offense was allowed to be more creative.
That doesn't mean riskier, but just do different things with different looks and not be so predictable. I was saying that back in 2013 and 2014 when the Defense had a bad game and the Offense couldn't pick them up.
Pete's idea of keeping it close then have a mad scramble at the end to win is actually riskier than his conservative Offense as the laws of average dictate that you are going to lose some games that you should have
won and those losses might just be in the playoffs or cause you to miss out on HFA.

Pete's offensive philosophy back then was just fine. The problem is that once it became apparent that our defense was waning, he didn't adjust the offense to compensate, or at least didn't adequately adjust it.