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Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:57 pm

From Adam Schefter:

Seahawks’ WR DK Metcalf is signing a three-year, $72 million extension that includes $58.2 million guaranteed, per source. Deal includes $30 million signing bonus, the highest ever for a WR. Metcalf will be a free agent again at 27 years old.

For a frame of reference, in addition to his highest-ever WR signing bonus, Metcalf is now comfortably among the highest compensated compared to his peers. According to Over The Cap, Metcalf’s $58.2 million guaranteed is the seventh-highest among all active receivers. His annual average of $24 million is the sixth-highest, tied with Stefon Diggs.


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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby c_hawkbob » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:03 pm

Outstanding!
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:41 pm

That's not as bad as I thought it would be. But we do have 42 million tied up in two receivers now. Pretty high if you ask me.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby mykc14 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:45 pm

RiverDog wrote:From Adam Schefter:

Seahawks’ WR DK Metcalf is signing a three-year, $72 million extension that includes $58.2 million guaranteed, per source. Deal includes $30 million signing bonus, the highest ever for a WR. Metcalf will be a free agent again at 27 years old.

For a frame of reference, in addition to his highest-ever WR signing bonus, Metcalf is now comfortably among the highest compensated compared to his peers. According to Over The Cap, Metcalf’s $58.2 million guaranteed is the seventh-highest among all active receivers. His annual average of $24 million is the sixth-highest, tied with Stefon Diggs.


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His average is really closer to 19-20. It's a 3 year extension so 4 years 76 million total.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:48 pm

Mark my words: This is a huge mistake. We should have traded him when we had the chance. Now, we have a whole chit load of salary cap tied up in two WR's. Doesn't make a lick of sense when you don't have a quarterback that can get the ball to them. It's a move that the Detroit Lions would have made. Megatron Part 2.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:54 pm

RiverDog wrote:Mark my words: This is a huge mistake. We should have traded him when we had the chance. Now, we have a whole chit load of salary cap tied up in two WR's. Doesn't make a lick of sense when you don't have a quarterback that can get the ball to them. It's a move that the Detroit Lions would have made. Megatron Part 2.


That means we got DK for the next 4 years. We should have a QB in place within that time. If we already have a badass group of receivers for a good QB to throw to, that's going to make this offense take off like a rocket soon as we insert the next franchise QB. That franchise QB will be super cheap. By the time we have pay the QB, DK and Tyler will both be at the end of their contracts. And if we have a developed QB, then we don't need badass receivers as much and we can draft the next receivers that an experienced QB will be throwing to.

I think it's a smart move at this point in time while you don't have a huge salary QB to pay for. It makes it easier for any up and coming QB since we already have high performing receivers.

I gotta disagree on this one. We're a real young team. We don't have a lot of high paid players right now. So if you're going to pay a high performer, now's the time. While you got a ton of draft capital and not much money tied up anywhere else. We clear 26 million off the cap next year with Russ being gone? I think it was a pretty shrewd move. And the price was very reasonable in my opinion. I think it's a win-win deal.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:12 pm

RiverDog wrote:Mark my words: This is a huge mistake. We should have traded him when we had the chance. Now, we have a whole chit load of salary cap tied up in two WR's. Doesn't make a lick of sense when you don't have a quarterback that can get the ball to them. It's a move that the Detroit Lions would have made. Megatron Part 2.


Aseahawkfan wrote:That means we got DK for the next 4 years. We should have a QB in place within that time. If we already have a badass group of receivers for a good QB to throw to, that's going to make this offense take off like a rocket soon as we insert the next franchise QB. That franchise QB will be super cheap. By the time we have pay the QB, DK and Tyler will both be at the end of their contracts. And if we have a developed QB, then we don't need badass receivers as much and we can draft the next receivers that an experienced QB will be throwing to.

I think it's a smart move at this point in time while you don't have a huge salary QB to pay for. It makes it easier for any up and coming QB since we already have high performing receivers.

I gotta disagree on this one. We're a real young team. We don't have a lot of high paid players right now. So if you're going to pay a high performer, now's the time. While you got a ton of draft capital and not much money tied up anywhere else. We clear 26 million off the cap next year with Russ being gone? I think it was a pretty shrewd move. And the price was very reasonable in my opinion. I think it's a win-win deal.


Obviously, I disagree. You build championship teams around defenses, offensive lines and/or great quarterbacks, not wide receivers. Given the draft capital we could have gotten had we traded him, there's no way we are better off signing a top 5 WR when we don't have a QB or an OL to protect him.

This is just Pete living under the same illusion that Hawktawk is: That we're just a player or two away from being a legitimate SB contender. Say hello to another 3 years of mediocre teams.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:27 pm

RiverDog wrote:Obviously, I disagree. You build championship teams around defenses, offensive lines and/or great quarterbacks, not wide receivers. Given the draft capital we could have gotten had we traded him, there's no way we are better off signing a top 5 WR when we don't have a QB or an OL to protect him.

This is just Pete living under the same illusion that Hawktawk is: That we're just a player or two away from being a legitimate SB contender. Say hello to another 3 years of mediocre teams.


If the time were different, I might agree with you. But a 3 year extension and a total of four years right now is not bad at all. It doesn't tie us up too long and we don't have a lot money tied up in defense or offense or a QB. We have plenty of cap space to play and not much to use it on.

You gotta think about where we are right now. We don't gotta pay a QB for at least another 3 or four years. So two high paid receivers is just the QB money tied up in the receivers. Those contracts will be mostly over by the time we have a QB on the roster to pay.

It seems like a really intelligently designed contract that was more John than Pete.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:39 pm

RiverDog wrote:Obviously, I disagree. You build championship teams around defenses, offensive lines and/or great quarterbacks, not wide receivers. Given the draft capital we could have gotten had we traded him, there's no way we are better off signing a top 5 WR when we don't have a QB or an OL to protect him.

This is just Pete living under the same illusion that Hawktawk is: That we're just a player or two away from being a legitimate SB contender. Say hello to another 3 years of mediocre teams.


Aseahawkfan wrote:If the time were different, I might agree with you. But a 3 year extension and a total of four years right now is not bad at all. It doesn't tie us up too long and we don't have a lot money tied up in defense or offense or a QB. We have plenty of cap space to play and not much to use it on.

You gotta think about where we are right now. We don't gotta pay a QB for at least another 3 or four years. So two high paid receivers is just the QB money tied up in the receivers. Those contracts will be mostly over by the time we have a QB on the roster to pay.

It seems like a really intelligently designed contract that was more John than Pete.


The problem isn't the deal itself so much as it is a reflection of Pete's mindset: He does not think he is in rebuild mode, rather, he thinks he's a player or two away from the SB. Pete is delusional, dreamy, a pure romantic. He is not a realist. He should have been fired last December, and if he had, we probably would have had a franchise QB to rebuild our team with.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:57 pm

RiverDog wrote:The problem isn't the deal itself so much as it is a reflection of Pete's mindset: He does not think he is in rebuild mode, rather, he thinks he's a player or two away from the SB. Pete is delusional, dreamy, a pure romantic. He is not a realist. He should have been fired last December, and if he had, we probably would have had a franchise QB to rebuild our team with.


I don't agree with that assessment. Signing DK is Pete maintaining young quality talent. He didn't overpay for a Bobby Wagner or a Carlos Dunlap on the end of their careers. The team extended an elite receiver just hitting their second contract for a very fair price.

If we had had a DK when we drafted Russell, that would have been awesome. Now we have receivers in place for when we draft a badass QB.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:03 pm

RiverDog wrote:The problem isn't the deal itself so much as it is a reflection of Pete's mindset: He does not think he is in rebuild mode, rather, he thinks he's a player or two away from the SB. Pete is delusional, dreamy, a pure romantic. He is not a realist. He should have been fired last December, and if he had, we probably would have had a franchise QB to rebuild our team with.


Aseahawkfan wrote:I don't agree with that assessment. Signing DK is Pete maintaining young quality talent. He didn't overpay for a Bobby Wagner or a Carlos Dunlap on the end of their careers. The team extended an elite receiver just hitting their second contract for a very fair price.

If we had had a DK when we drafted Russell, that would have been awesome. Now we have receivers in place for when we draft a badass QB.


You've put the wagon in front of the horses. Even if we were to hit the jackpot and draft a stud QB in 2023, he's going to take a year or two to develop, by which time Metcalf's contract would be up again.

Like I said, say hello to another 3 years of mediocrity. We're this decade's Detroit Lions.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Hawktawk » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:29 pm

Geno smith targeting DK 17 for 21, 251 yards , 4 TDs and a 151 qbr for Geno targeting DK. In 13 quarters . dK caught his next TD 6 weeks after his 2 in the JAx game including the ball that was better than any he had before . The diabolical plan is :D coming together . Pete is not delusional . He’s not rebuilding . We will win 10 minimum . Yee Haw :D
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby govandals » Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:49 pm

Feels about right to me. With the WR market now and the salary cap going forward, it's an Ok deal for both sides. DK will still reach free agency at an early age to make mega dollars if it all trends his way.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:03 pm

RiverDog wrote:You've put the wagon in front of the horses. Even if we were to hit the jackpot and draft a stud QB in 2023, he's going to take a year or two to develop, by which time Metcalf's contract would be up again.

Like I said, say hello to another 3 years of mediocrity. We're this decade's Detroit Lions.


If we hit the jackpot at QB, then that QB is ours for four or five years while he is cheap. If he develops by the time DKs contract is up, then we trade DK then or let him walk and sign young receivers that our experienced QB can throw to.

Whether we're mediocre or not has nothing to do with signing DK and everything to do with how Pete and John draft and develop talent.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:05 pm

They were going to sign him, so I’m glad it got done before TC really started rolling. However, had they extended him prior to the huge jump in WR salaries they could have saved a few million per year in Cap space.
Looking at today’s salaries though, it’s not outrageous like it might have been as it’s pretty much market value.

I’m in the camp that expects it to be a bit of a waste for a couple of years while both the QB and OL situations settle in.
However if we do end up getting a very good QB in the draft, maybe that timetable could move up a little. Wilson after all
really made a big jump from his first year to his second, so maybe our next Franchise QB can do the same.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby jshawaii22 » Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:37 pm

RD is dead-on right. Should of traded him as he would be worth a #1 +++. We need more top draft picks and cap space going forward. RD's insight toward Pete and how he views this non-rebuild rebuild is also spot on.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:57 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:RD is dead-on right. Should of traded him as he would be worth a #1 +++. We need more top draft picks and cap space going forward. RD's insight toward Pete and how he views this non-rebuild rebuild is also spot on.


As a team we need a combination of draft picks and proven talent. Not sure why people think draft picks alone build a team. They do not. Even our Super Bowl team was a combination of draft picks and proven talent. DK is proven talent.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby jshawaii22 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:07 am

Most teams built via the draft, as the Seahawks did in Pete/JS's first 3 years. FA's and trades fill in the gaps.
I never viewed DK as a #1 receiver and certainly not with Geno or Lock to throw to him for at least this year and probably 1-2 years beyond. By then, maybe we keep him or not, but the 25million per year could be used to upgrade many positions of need, which we have plenty of once our cap space gets normalized when Russell's 30+ million in dead space comes off the books at the end of this year.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:31 am

jshawaii22 wrote:Most teams built via the draft, as the Seahawks did in Pete/JS's first 3 years. FA's and trades fill in the gaps.
I never viewed DK as a #1 receiver and certainly not with Geno or Lock to throw to him for at least this year and probably 1-2 years beyond. By then, maybe we keep him or not, but the 25million per year could be used to upgrade many positions of need, which we have plenty of once our cap space gets normalized when Russell's 30+ million in dead space comes off the books at the end of this year.


Free agency and trades don't fill in the gaps. They are key pieces added to drafted talent. Marshawn Lynch wasn't a fill in the gaps. Neither was Avril. Or Zach Miller. They were key starters added to the roster as part of team building. Most teams build exactly how I stated they do: drafting and developed talent (free agency, trades). It's all an important and vital part of team building.

That being said DK was one of our higher performing draft picks and he's on his first contract. You want to keep high level performers that are young. That's drafted talent you developed and retained. DK qualifies as high performing drafted talent we retained. We have plenty of time, money, and draft capital to build a team with DK making what he is making now.

If you don't think he's very good, you have your right to that opinion. But he's a 1000 yard a year receiver who has caught 7, 10, and 12 Tds respectively still playing on his first contract.

DK is well worth keeping at this point in the team building process. You are unlikely to draft an equivalent talent even as a 1st round receiver. It's one less worry next draft, so we can focus on other positions of higher need like QB or D-line or secondary.

I don't see how this is anything but a win at this point in the team building process.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:09 am

My main beef isn't with the player or even the fact that we broke the bank for him. It's the position. Good wide receivers are a dime a dozen. You don't need a world class athlete to excel at it (re Cooper Kupp). When Pete built his first team, he didn't do it through burning a high draft pick on one or signing a top WR free agent. Both Doug Baldwin and Jermaine Kearse were undrafted. I think of all the top, #1 receivers that haven't been to a Super Bowl: What did Calvin Johnson do for the Lions, or AJ Green for the Bengals, Deshawn Hopkins for the Texans and Cards. What did OBJ do for the Giants and Browns? Anyone want to argue that he was the key ingredient to the Rams' SB? He wouldn't have been on the roster had Robert Woods not gotten hurt. Or how about Antonio Brown? Anyone want to argue that he was the missing link in Tampa Bay's SB season? How many SB's has Devante Adams been to? Tyreek Hill was a 5th round draft pick and didn't do anything for the Chiefs until Patrick Mahomes came around.

I see Super Bowl teams being built around a great quarterback, like the Bengals have done, or with a great defense like Pete did. I see Peyton Manning going to the Broncos and taking them to the SB. I see the Rams building their team around a great defense then bringing in a veteran QB to get them over the hump. I saw Belichick win Super Bowls with Wes Welker and Julian Edleman. Can anyone name the starting WR's when the Eagles won the SB? I see Tampa Bay bringing in the GOAT and winning one.

I don't see Super Bowl teams being built around a stud WR.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:56 am

"Good" receivers may be a dime a dozen, but generational talent like DK are not.

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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:29 am

c_hawkbob wrote:"Good" receivers may be a dime a dozen, but generational talent like DK are not.


I never said that generational WR's were a dime a dozen. My argument has nothing to do with whether or not DK is a generational talent. He is. My argument is that one is not needed for us to get back to the Super Bowl, and I'm waiting for someone to prove me wrong by showing just one example of a generational talent WR on par at their position with that of a Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Wilson, etc, that got their team to a Super Bowl. Terrell Owens maybe? Keyshawn Johnson? Wasn't he on the Tampa Bay team that won the SB under Jon Gruden?

Just curious. Before the 2021 season, is there anyone that would have considered Cooper Kupp a generational talent?

c_hawkbob wrote:I knew you'd be hating this, but I couldn't be happier if I were twins.


Good for you! We're all going to need something to be happy about this team.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby MackStrongIsMyHero » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:45 am

I'd be unhappy with this move had they not moved Russell Wilson and had to draft with what little capital they had. Instead, Russell gets moved for a boat load and they kill the draft getting talent at several positions of need. Plus, they didn't do anything to damage next year's stock of draft picks. I'm firmly in the camp of this is all part of setting up your next QB. Even if he sits a year, he'll have 2 years with DK. It looks even better if (and a big if, for sure) Drew Lock puts it together.

I'd rather continue to dump on the Jamal Adams trade and extension. He's getting a second opinion on the hand surgery he had. And this is only after the first day of camp. DK is already good with a high ceiling. Adams is looking more and more like possibly the worst acquisition of the PC/JS era.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby tarlhawk » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:53 am

RiverDog wrote: My argument is that one is not needed for us to get back to the Super Bowl, and I'm waiting for someone to prove me wrong by showing just one example of a generational talent WR on par at their position with that of a Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Wilson, etc, that got their team to a Super Bowl.


Since you only ask for one example I offer up Jerry Rice from the "glory days" of Joe Montana. Generational wide receivers upset a defenses focus...any real effort to shut them down creates opportunities for other play makers to gain favorable match ups.


Offenses in the passing game have gotten a huge lift from recent rule "tweaks"...guys who are hard to contain often frustrate their coverage to the point where flags begin to affect a games outcome.


Tyler Lockett often draws flags and if a defense concentrates too much on DK...Lockett becomes lightning in a bottle. Throw in an emerging TE terror like Noah Fant or a speedy/healthy Dee Eskridge and your offense is only limited by the progression of your unproven O-line and your resultant QB ability to utilize Shane Waldrons full playbook "installation".
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:11 am

Wide Receivers are a product of their Offense.
Jerry Rice was mentioned, and he was fantastic, but he was also the best type of Receiver for the WCO which was a new concept.
His route running was exceptional and precise which is what Bill Walsh demanded and along with his speed it caught opposing defenses off guard.
Rice might not have done as well in a different Offense, though if the ball wasn't thrown to him as much or if they ran more (at the time) traditional Offense with slower developing routes.

DK is going to have some trouble getting the ball for the first couple of years while the OL gets settled and the QBs adjust to this Offense and longer if we select a top QB in the next draft.
It happens with every player and is to be expected with the younger guys.

My concern is twofold, firstly will he get the ball enough to justify being one of the top paid WRs, and if he doesn't get the ball enough will he start to complain and become a distraction or worse, a malcontent?
My guess on the second question is he will be OK, but with some players getting big contracts sets them on a course that they think they have to carry the team and get frustrated if they don't get the opportunities
to satisfy them for getting the money they are being paid.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby tarlhawk » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:32 am

Excellent valid concerns...especially in the current "NFL environment" for high paid contracts becoming worthless if a player "becomes unhappy" and feels "dissed" when others get paid more...or are put in "better situations". The traditions of contracts being made "in good faith" and honored for at least their duration ...are losing ground to pampered outbursts (Deebo Samuel) and holding a GM/team as a financial hostage if they choose to play a disgruntled player into their final contracted year.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby c_hawkbob » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:39 am

especially in the current "NFL environment" for high paid contracts becoming worthless if a player "becomes unhappy" and feels "dissed" when others get paid more...or are put in "better situations".


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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:45 am

NorthHawk wrote:Wide Receivers are a product of their Offense.
Jerry Rice was mentioned, and he was fantastic, but he was also the best type of Receiver for the WCO which was a new concept.
His route running was exceptional and precise which is what Bill Walsh demanded and along with his speed it caught opposing defenses off guard.
Rice might not have done as well in a different Offense, though if the ball wasn't thrown to him as much or if they ran more (at the time) traditional Offense with slower developing routes.

DK is going to have some trouble getting the ball for the first couple of years while the OL gets settled and the QBs adjust to this Offense and longer if we select a top QB in the next draft.
It happens with every player and is to be expected with the younger guys.

My concern is twofold, firstly will he get the ball enough to justify being one of the top paid WRs, and if he doesn't get the ball enough will he start to complain and become a distraction or worse, a malcontent?
My guess on the second question is he will be OK, but with some players getting big contracts sets them on a course that they think they have to carry the team and get frustrated if they don't get the opportunities
to satisfy them for getting the money they are being paid.


I care more if he maintains his red zone production. It's not easy to find guys who can catch 10 plus TDs a year. That alone makes him worth keeping in my opinion. If DK were a yard grinder who put up a bunch of yards with no cream just the milk, then I might be unhappy we signed him like so many others. But DK provides plenty of milk (yards) and plenty of cream (TDs). We got him at a quality market price during a time when we can afford him on a team friendly contract length during a period we are rebuilding and will be looking for a quality QB in the draft. We got great weapons waiting for that QB. And our WRs are set for the next few years, so we can focus on other positions in the draft. I think in a few years if the drafting and team building goes well, we'll look at this as one John's smarter contracts.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby TriCitySam » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:44 pm

I'm OK with the deal. You're not going to move forward if you lose your best young players, and they can become very competitive again within the Metcalf window. Plus, he wasn't overpaid: he's #7 in WR salary. It's a fair deal.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:00 pm

RiverDog wrote: My argument is that one is not needed for us to get back to the Super Bowl, and I'm waiting for someone to prove me wrong by showing just one example of a generational talent WR on par at their position with that of a Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Wilson, etc, that got their team to a Super Bowl.


tarlhawk wrote:Since you only ask for one example I offer up Jerry Rice from the "glory days" of Joe Montana.


That's not the type of example I was looking for. The 49'ers were already two time SB champs, SB 16 in '81 and SB 19 in '84, by the time Rice arrived as a rookie in 1985 (Dwight Clark was their go-to WR in those early days). Although it's admittedly not on the same scale, it's a little like saying that Randy Moss made the Patriots into SB champs.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:50 pm

RiverDog wrote:That's not the type of example I was looking for. The 49'ers were already two time SB champs, SB 16 in '81 and SB 19 in '84, by the time Rice arrived as a rookie in 1985 (Dwight Clark was their go-to WR in those early days). Although it's admittedly not on the same scale, it's a little like saying that Randy Moss made the Patriots into SB champs.


We can still trade DK should the team want to on a very friendly deal to another team. So that option is still available to the team on top of having an elite young receiver on the team while we go through the rebuild. Not like DK is going to lose his value and another team wasn't going to have negotiate a contract to trade for him. No one would have paid much to DK on a one year deal. So if anything, DK has increased trade value.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby RiverDog » Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:14 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:We can still trade DK should the team want to on a very friendly deal to another team. So that option is still available to the team on top of having an elite young receiver on the team while we go through the rebuild. Not like DK is going to lose his value and another team wasn't going to have negotiate a contract to trade for him. No one would have paid much to DK on a one year deal. So if anything, DK has increased trade value.


Yeah, I was just thinking about that possibility. The problem is that if he gets injured, then he's damaged goods and so goes his value. There's also the possibility that without a decent QB to get him the ball that his production declines. If we were going to trade him, the optimum time would have been this past spring before the draft.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:19 pm

RiverDog wrote:Yeah, I was just thinking about that possibility. The problem is that if he gets injured, then he's damaged goods and so goes his value. There's also the possibility that without a decent QB to get him the ball that his production declines. If we were going to trade him, the optimum time would have been this past spring before the draft.


Or we draft a really good young QB next year or the year after and DK's numbers spike just as his contract is running down and we trade him a few years from now for good value while a young QB has some amazing weapons to throw to.

I think this is a low risk-high reward move at this point in time. If we were already up against the cap and we were cutting quality players to keep DK, then it might have been an issue. But we're in a position having traded Russell where we don't have pressure to trade DK and signing him doesn't prevent us from keeping some other great player. It does nothing at the moment but cost us money. We have plenty of money to spend right now.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:01 pm

It seems we have less money than I had thought.
We have just under $14M this year and we used to have over $60M for next year, but that’s suddenly shrunk
to just under $33M even with Wilson off the books according to Spotrac. The money goes pretty fast.
$36M for Safeties is a huge hit.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:07 pm

NorthHawk wrote:It seems we have less money than I had thought.
We have just under $14M this year and we used to have over $60M for next year, but that’s suddenly shrunk
to just under $33M even with Wilson off the books according to Spotrac. The money goes pretty fast.
$36M for Safeties is a huge hit.


The way things are going I don't expect Jamal Adams to be here next year. No fault of his own, but a guy that young who can't stay healthy is not heading for a long, productive career.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby obiken » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:16 pm

RiverDog wrote:Mark my words: This is a huge mistake. We should have traded him when we had the chance. Now, we have a whole chit load of salary cap tied up in two WR's. Doesn't make a lick of sense when you don't have a quarterback that can get the ball to them. It's a move that the Detroit Lions would have made. Megatron Part 2.


Thats why I say! Huge error!
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby NorthHawk » Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:12 pm

More money tied up at Safety than the two highest paid WRs the next two years.
An unusual occurrence.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Hawktawk » Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:02 am

It wasn’t Julio Jones fault the Falcons choked a super bowl away. He had made the catch to seal it before Ryan got sacked out of field goal range . It’s utterly ridiculous to suggest a guy like Dk doesn’t greatly improve your chances on offense . Especially since you won’t be running the scramble drill offense . And if the Geno -DK connection could hold up somewhat like the 13 quarters it’s around 20 TDs and over 1500 yards for DK alone . After scissorhand returned he was blanked for 6 games . So maybe he won’t be productive with whatever new guy or maybe he will . When he’s covered he’s open as proven by the best ball he ever had last time we saw Geno .

We might well be screwed with a new QB whoever it is or we might not . We we’re screwed blued and tattooed by previous dude last year for 35 million so it won’t be worse . I wonder how many wins everyone had Cincy at ? This is a talented roster . Some of these predicted win totals are laughable . Really looking forward to seeing some doubters eat their words . As for delusional Pete apply it to John and Jody too cause it’s not just Pete’s call anymore
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Aseahawkfan » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:14 pm

Hawktawk wrote:It wasn’t Julio Jones fault the Falcons choked a super bowl away. He had made the catch to seal it before Ryan got sacked out of field goal range . It’s utterly ridiculous to suggest a guy like Dk doesn’t greatly improve your chances on offense . Especially since you won’t be running the scramble drill offense . And if the Geno -DK connection could hold up somewhat like the 13 quarters it’s around 20 TDs and over 1500 yards for DK alone . After scissorhand returned he was blanked for 6 games . So maybe he won’t be productive with whatever new guy or maybe he will . When he’s covered he’s open as proven by the best ball he ever had last time we saw Geno .

We might well be screwed with a new QB whoever it is or we might not . We we’re screwed blued and tattooed by previous dude last year for 35 million so it won’t be worse . I wonder how many wins everyone had Cincy at ? This is a talented roster . Some of these predicted win totals are laughable . Really looking forward to seeing some doubters eat their words . As for delusional Pete apply it to John and Jody too cause it’s not just Pete’s call anymore


Seems Seattle fans don't value WRs too much. If you ain't Largent, a segment of the Seattle fan base don't care about you.
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Re: Metcalf to sign record breaking contract extension

Postby Hawktawk » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:51 am

The play Russ started dying and DK became a man was the day I fell in love with DK. When he ran down Baker from 11 yards down I knew I wanted him on my team his entire career . I can’t think of many plays like that in 50 plus years watching pro football . Incredible desire to win

He will reward Seattle for their faith in him , their investment .
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