Mayfield

[RiverDog]

STOP!! ragging on Pete.

You can't expect fans to quit ragging on the head coach of their football team any more than you can expect people to quit ragging on the POTUS. It comes with the territory and is much a part of football as cheerleaders and marching bands.

[Hawktawk]

STOP!! ragging on Pete.

You can't expect fans to quit ragging on the head coach of their football team any more than you can expect people to quit ragging on the POTUS. It comes with the territory and is much a part of football as cheerleaders and marching bands.

And honestly I don’t care . It’s a Seahawks forum . Rag on what you want . Vent . Just allow me the same consideration . I don’t keep track of how many thoughts are repeated . There’s only so many stories unless you’re a rumor monger .

As to the OP the Seahawks team shop apparently leaked a mayfield jersey a bit ago so it may really be about to go down .

[RiverDog]

You can't expect fans to quit ragging on the head coach of their football team any more than you can expect people to quit ragging on the POTUS. It comes with the territory and is much a part of football as cheerleaders and marching bands.

And honestly I don’t care . It’s a Seahawks forum . Rag on what you want . Vent . Just allow me the same consideration . I don’t keep track of how many thoughts are repeated . There’s only so many stories unless you’re a rumor monger.

I don't condone some of the attacks that you've been subjected to, but honestly, you've brought them on yourself with your characterizations of Russell. And for the life of me, I simply don't get your defensiveness about Pete Carroll after years of being so critical of him. Nowhere did anyone call Pete half the things that you've called Russell.

[Hawktawk]

"STOP!! ragging on Pete.

You can't expect fans to quit ragging on the head coach of their football team any more than you can expect people to quit ragging on the POTUS. It comes with the territory and is much a part of football as cheerleaders and marching bands.


And honestly I don’t care . It’s a Seahawks forum . Rag on what you want . Vent . Just allow me the same consideration . I don’t keep track of how many thoughts are repeated . There’s only so many stories unless you’re a rumor monger.

I don't condone some of the attacks that you've been subjected to, but honestly, you've brought them on yourself with your characterizations of Russell. And for the life of me, I simply don't get your defensiveness about Pete Carroll after years of being so critical of him. Nowhere did anyone call Pete half the things that you've called Russell.

Oh good grief . Little dictator ? Nobody wants to adress Schottie . Just lecture HT for how he talks about Russ . Diva ? Petulant ? Coach killer . ? I feel exactly the same about Rodgers but he stuck around . What did I call Russel the divine that compares to low morals lying dirtbag rumor monger , if you can’t argument over . I really don’t like the player and sports persona Russ has become . Maybe he’s right and Seattle doesn’t know how to win . A bunch of wusses .we would get laughed out of Philadelphia. As for Pete he’s far from perfect but you gotta pick a side. I did .

[RiverDog]

Oh good grief . Little dictator ? Nobody wants to adress Schottie . Just lecture HT for how he talks about Russ . Diva ? Petulant ? Coach killer . ? I feel exactly the same about Rodgers but he stuck around . What did I call Russel the divine that compares to low morals lying dirtbag rumor monger , if you can’t argument over . I really don’t like the player and sports persona Russ has become . Maybe he’s right and Seattle doesn’t know how to win . A bunch of wusses .we would get laughed out of Philadelphia. As for Pete he’s far from perfect but you gotta pick a side. I did .

I'm not lecturing you about anything, nor am I comparing what you said about Russell with that which was said about you. I'm simply saying that your repeated negative characterizations in a Seahawks forum of a former Seahawk that still has a large group of fans that are emotionally bonded to him has its consequences. Say something similar to what you've been saying about Russell about Steve Largent or Walter Jones and you can expect similar treatment.

You bring up Russell and speak of him in negative terms in every thread. You're like a broken record. It gets old.

[Hawktawk]

As everyone else talks about the failures of Pete and john . It’s a circle jerk . I think people on this forum like arguing with Ht . The complaints and disagreement of my positions , the personal attacks wouldn’t be different if I just said Wilson instead of petulant diva or little dictator . Either the man wanted out or he didn’t despite his word salad comments . He’s on tape talking about going to a wining city after 2 super bowl appearances and a ring in his first 3 years . Utterly unthankful to the organization and the fan base . Ether he wanted Schottie fired or he didn't despite his loving parting statement . Nobody bashing me for being so mean has touched the subject . If one believes he did these things then that individual has every right to be pissed and let it show . If you all want to dwell on fond memories go for it . This is a pr war and I’ve picked a side . So has Wyman as I caught his podcast Friday . He’s sounding annoyed at the suggestion Seattle initiated the decision to trade Wilson . I’ve heard him call Russ a petulant diva on air and that was a year ago . If my views on this very current story are not welcome then this forum is a monumental waste of my time . I’m tired of hearing you say I’m tiresome . It’s tiresome . It’s a circular nowhere argument but I’ll not back down .

[RiverDog]

As everyone else talks about the failures of Pete and john . It’s a circle jerk .

Except there's a big difference between Russell and Pete/John: Russell is a former Seahawk. Pete and John are current HC/GM. Additionally, your comparison is a false equivalency. No one has spoken about Pete/John in no where close to the terms you've used to describe Russell.

I think people on this forum like arguing with Ht . The complaints and disagreement of my positions , the personal attacks wouldn’t be different if I just said Wilson instead of petulant diva or little dictator.

The reason people are arguing with you is because you hold a minority opinion, at least amongst the regulars in this forum. Not too many posters write long responses to comments they agree with. Sometimes all that is said is "Agreed" or "This." And I disagree with you about your drawing personal attacks if you didn't use such derogatory terms petulant diva or little dictator. If you eliminated those terms, I can almost guarantee you that you would not have to endure the types of personal insults that you draw.

And by the way, if you think you're being treated roughly in this forum, you ought to try some of the other similar forums. This place is a Sunday school in comparison. Here's one exchange I selected at random from the other forum I frequent:

Whenever I start getting upset about Wilson leaving i spray on the perfume that was based on the love Russ and Ciara share and I instantly feel better.

So why don't you just let Acer pee on you, same s***............. I bet he would do it for free.

Ya hes a sick ****..Wilson's urine is the smell of arrogance...

I'll pee on ya. I'll even wear a mask so that you don't get covid. That's how much I care about you Cyrus.

[obiken]

Ha ha River, remember the old Seattle PI forum??!! If he thinks this place is rough, try being just a nice decent guy to Duck B man, and Phili 51!! This is like Sunday school to a War Zone!!

[RiverDog]

Ha ha River, remember the old Seattle PI forum??!! If he thinks this place is rough, try being just a nice decent guy to Duck B man, and Phili 51!! This is like Sunday school to a War Zone!!

Yeah, no kidding! But how did you forget your personal favorite, Tailgator?

[Aseahawkfan]

The reason people are arguing with you is because you hold a minority opinion, at least amongst the regulars in this forum. Not too many posters write long responses to comments they agree with. Sometimes all that is said is "Agreed" or "This." And I disagree with you about your drawing personal attacks if you didn't use such derogatory terms petulant diva or little dictator. If you eliminated those terms, I can almost guarantee you that you would not have to endure the types of personal insults that you draw.

And by the way, if you think you're being treated roughly in this forum, you ought to try some of the other similar forums. This place is a Sunday school in comparison. Here's one exchange I selected at random from the other forum I frequent:

Whenever I start getting upset about Wilson leaving i spray on the perfume that was based on the love Russ and Ciara share and I instantly feel better.

So why don't you just let Acer pee on you, same s***............. I bet he would do it for free.

Ya hes a sick ****..Wilson's urine is the smell of arrogance...

I'll pee on ya. I'll even wear a mask so that you don't get covid. That's how much I care about you Cyrus.

What forum is that? That's nuts.

[c_hawkbob]

I believe it's .net. I'm a member there as well but very rarely participate, it's just not worth my time.

[Hawktawk]

The greatest one time ass reaming I got on here was Mike O way back when maybe 15 or 20 years ago . I don’t even remember the subject .

But I’ve always been Don Quixote tilting at windmills . Going against the flow . Sticking up for underdogs and calling out stars who aren’t helping the team anymore . Demanding a trade isn’t helping or maybe it will .

I got banned after XL , my handle was Tawkhawk before that . Damn near got banned after the Hutchinson debacle but at least in hindsight he had not gotten taken care of . A blunder that may have cost us another trip to the Super bowl . Anyone remember stabbed in the back ? SA in 2003 when he didn’t get the carry to win the rushing title as we wrapped up a division championship .

I ripped him , got in fights on the PI forum over it . I got in more after calling him out for tripping over the 40 rather than take on Ray Lewis in a brutal 17 point collapse to the Ravens. He did the same thing in a 17 point collapse to the rams in 2004 . One of the smoothest most patient runners ever but soft as a marshmallow

I am consistent . I believe in team . There’s no I in it . It’s like I tell my wife I’m not changing after all these years . Love it or leave it .

[RiverDog]

The reason people are arguing with you is because you hold a minority opinion, at least amongst the regulars in this forum. Not too many posters write long responses to comments they agree with. Sometimes all that is said is "Agreed" or "This." And I disagree with you about your drawing personal attacks if you didn't use such derogatory terms petulant diva or little dictator. If you eliminated those terms, I can almost guarantee you that you would not have to endure the types of personal insults that you draw.

And by the way, if you think you're being treated roughly in this forum, you ought to try some of the other similar forums. This place is a Sunday school in comparison. Here's one exchange I selected at random from the other forum I frequent:

Whenever I start getting upset about Wilson leaving i spray on the perfume that was based on the love Russ and Ciara share and I instantly feel better.

So why don't you just let Acer pee on you, same s***............. I bet he would do it for free.

Ya hes a sick ****..Wilson's urine is the smell of arrogance...

I'll pee on ya. I'll even wear a mask so that you don't get covid. That's how much I care about you Cyrus.

What forum is that? That's nuts.

Cbob is correct, it's seahawks.net, affectionally known as Dot Net. I poke my head in there 2 or 3 times a week. There's too much traffic to suit my taste. That exchange I quoted came out of the PG rated main forum, and it was just a random search. I hadn't seen it before I started looking for an example to show HT what real verbal abuse looked like. I'm sure there's lots more where that came from. There's other forums within .net, like the politics forum, where it gets much worse. To say that those guys are abusive with each other is a huge understatement.

I much prefer this small little group of ours.

[Aseahawkfan]

I don't go to .net. I do know that forum. Went there a long while ago, it was a high traffic forum that wasn't really interesting. You didn't get many posts by knowledgeable fans with interesting viewpoints. Just a lot of generic Seahawks talk without much substance.

I used to like Seahawk Blue and most of the people there are good people. But they got a little too political in the main forum after Trump was elected. You had some real insane debates. The poor guy running it couldn't be there all the time to get rid of it because he had real life stuff going on. So it was allowed to run sometimes. I like having a Seahawks forum that is mostly clear of politics in the main Seahawks area like this one with an off-topic forum where the moderator let's people go to town on politics and other topics. Makes it so people who want to focus on the Seahawks can focus on that in the main area, while those who want to occasionally chat about something else can take it to the off-topic forum.

This place is well set up with just enough moderation to let people jaw a little, while not such stupid levels of moderation you can't debate. Some forums have too much moderation, some too little. For me this place is just right.

[RiverDog]

I don't go to .net. I do know that forum. Went there a long while ago, it was a high traffic forum that wasn't really interesting. You didn't get many posts by knowledgeable fans with interesting viewpoints. Just a lot of generic Seahawks talk without much substance.

That's pretty much my opinion of .net, too. Although the traffic isn't nearly as bad as it once was, it's still too busy. People will post stupid s***, generic stuff as you call it, just a few words, then bump your post to the bottom. It's a similar thing with the Facebook groups. Not a lot of real fans, just cheerleader types. But both FB and .net are good sources of information as people will post good articles and videos that they come across.

This place is well set up with just enough moderation to let people jaw a little, while not such stupid levels of moderation you can't debate. Some forums have too much moderation, some too little. For me this place is just right.

The mods here don't have to do a whole lot as the place runs itself. I sent a PM to Yoder a few months ago and it took him over a week before he replied. He apologized for the delayed response, said that this thing runs itself and doesn't require his constant attention.

[Hawktawk]

This place is well set up with just enough moderation to let people jaw a little, while not such stupid levels of moderation you can't debate. Some forums have too much moderation, some too little. For me this place is just right.

The mods here don't have to do a whole lot as the place runs itself. I sent a PM to Yoder a few months ago and it took him over a week before he replied. He apologized for the delayed response, said that this thing runs itself and doesn't require his constant attention.[/quote]

It’s my only forum other than a brief time on blue when the PI went down . Wasting too much time as it is. I followed FB for friends and have zapped anyone who wants to talk politics of any description . I’ve been avoiding the OT side of this one . No happy subjects , nothing I want to even think about right now . But this is where I vent , always has been for 20 plus years now.

[RiverDog]

It’s (Hawkshack) my only forum other than a brief time on blue when the PI went down . Wasting too much time as it is. I followed FB for friends and have zapped anyone who wants to talk politics of any description . I’ve been avoiding the OT side of this one . No happy subjects , nothing I want to even think about right now . But this is where I vent , always has been for 20 plus years now.

I avoid politics on my Facebook feed, too, and have unfollowed or unfriended those that insist on talking about it. Part of it is the discipline I learned as a supervisor, not to reveal my political stripes for fear of scaring others into thinking that I'm not approachable. I don't put bumper stickers on my cars or political signs in my yard. I will occasionally add comments about a few local articles, but even that is few and far between.

You really ought to jump back into the OT forum. It's actually pretty tame compared to other forums I've frequented.

[Hawktawk]

I dont want to read the word Ukraine. Mite have had a premonition there. Creepy AF. Naw Il stick to the sports side for now.

[RiverDog]

I dont want to read the word Ukraine. Mite have had a premonition there. Creepy AF. Naw Il stick to the sports side for now.

The last post about Ukraine was made over a month ago. There are 6 threads above it. It's pretty much old, depressing news of which there isn't a lot of disagreement, so we haven't been taking about it. Roe v. Wade, the Texas school shootings, and the Jan. 6th hearings have been the hot topics we've been debating lately. You need to get back into the fray. We miss your takes.

[jshawaii22]

Well, I'm glad any chance at Baker is over. Now we can concentrate on non-tanking tanking for this year and get our new potential great QB next draft.
I know some people would rather have 7 wins instead of 3-4, but not me. Serves no purpose and doesn't win anything except lower draft picks.

[Aseahawkfan]

Well, I'm glad any chance at Baker is over. Now we can concentrate on non-tanking tanking for this year and get our new potential great QB next draft.
I know some people would rather have 7 wins instead of 3-4, but not me. Serves no purpose and doesn't win anything except lower draft picks.

I'm with you. I'd rather just have one down season, draft an amazing QB, and then start another Super Bowl Era. It's gonna be hard to do better than Russ, but we can hope some amazing candidate is available next year at the right draft spot.

I'd like to draft high enough to draft a stud DT. It's almost harder to draft an elite DT than a QB. There are probably four or five elite DTs in the entire league and probably 10 to 15 elite or near elite QBs.

[obiken]

8 pages for a Baker Mayfield, really?

[govandals]

So Mayfield gets traded for a 2024 4th or 5th round pick and Carolina is paying only 5 million of his salary? Seems Pete, or anyone other team, could have easily topped that offer. Our supposed interest in him was just media BS, and I'm glad he is not in Seattle. I'm fine to roll with Lock or even Geno and look forward to next years draft.

[Hawktawk]

So far Pete has been true to his word and ridden the horses in the stable . I hear word of Jimmy G but I don’t see where he’s much more than a journeyman propped up by his defense and special teams . I think they really plan to open camp with 3 “ bust” QBs .

[RiverDog]

So Mayfield gets traded for a 2024 4th or 5th round pick and Carolina is paying only 5 million of his salary? Seems Pete, or anyone other team, could have easily topped that offer. Our supposed interest in him was just media BS, and I'm glad he is not in Seattle. I'm fine to roll with Lock or even Geno and look forward to next years draft.

Pete might have just admitted something that he has so far denied: That we truly are rebuilding. No team with hopes of going to the Super Bowl is going to go into the season without a true starting quarterback when several were available.

Although there's still a possibility that we'll bring in Jimmy G., it's going to have to happen very soon. Training camp opens in less than 3 weeks, so if we were going to upgrade the QB position, we would have done it by now.

[Hawktawk]

So Mayfield gets traded for a 2024 4th or 5th round pick and Carolina is paying only 5 million of his salary? Seems Pete, or anyone other team, could have easily topped that offer. Our supposed interest in him was just media BS, and I'm glad he is not in Seattle. I'm fine to roll with Lock or even Geno and look forward to next years draft.

Pete might have just admitted something that he has so far denied: That we truly are rebuilding. No team with hopes of going to the Super Bowl is going to go into the season without a true starting quarterback when several were available.

Although there's still a possibility that we'll bring in Jimmy G., it's going to have to happen very soon. Training camp opens in less than 3 weeks, so if we were going to upgrade the QB position, we would have done it by now.[/quote]

Pete is not rebuilding . Pete is trailblazing and he is the one coach in the league uniquely equipped to do so . He has an OC that calls an offense that got Jarred Goff to the super bowl . If Geno is like the 13 quarters we saw were fine and will be competitive every week if everyone else does their job . If Lock beats Geno out we are a dangerous team due to the ability to throw anywhere on the field including 70 yards in the air .
Pete is sticking with these guys because he thinks he can win with them. So do I .

[NorthHawk]

Jimmy G could probably pick up our Offense fairly quickly if Waldron follows the McVay line. It falls from the Shanahan tree so the concepts and keys would be similar, but
if it's Petes Offense then it might be just a little more of a learning curve because our Offense under Pete isn't particularly sophisticated so easier to learn. Remember Pete's
philosophy of its not how you start but how you finish and I can see picking up JG or maybe even Darnold if Mayfield beats him out and who Pete once coveted.

[RiverDog]

Jimmy G could probably pick up our Offense fairly quickly if Waldron follows the McVay line. It falls from the Shanahan tree so the concepts and keys would be similar, but
if it's Petes Offense then it might be just a little more of a learning curve because our Offense under Pete isn't particularly sophisticated so easier to learn. Remember Pete's
philosophy of its not how you start but how you finish and I can see picking up JG or maybe even Darnold if Mayfield beats him out and who Pete once coveted.

Darnold is likely to be available before the season starts. The Panthers drafted Matt Corrall and now that they're bringing in Mayfield, Darnold is likely the odd man out as most teams don't carry 3 QB's. If Pete wants him, he'll likely trade for him between now and training camp.

I think a lot of the Darnold to the Hawks speculation is driven by the fact that Darnold played at USC.

[Hawktawk]

Jimmy G could probably pick up our Offense fairly quickly if Waldron follows the McVay line. It falls from the Shanahan tree so the concepts and keys would be similar, but
if it's Petes Offense then it might be just a little more of a learning curve because our Offense under Pete isn't particularly sophisticated so easier to learn. Remember Pete's
philosophy of its not how you start but how you finish and I can see picking up JG or maybe even Darnold if Mayfield beats him out and who Pete once coveted.


Darnold is likely to be available before the season starts. The Panthers drafted Matt Corrall and now that they're bringing in Mayfield, Darnold is likely the odd man out as most teams don't carry 3 QB's. If Pete wants him, he'll likely trade for him between now and training camp.

I think a lot of the Darnold to the Hawks speculation is driven by the fact that Darnold played at USC.

Darnold is a 2 time bust but word out of Carolina is there will be an open competition there between Mayfield and Darnold who is owed far more money by Carolina than Mayfield. Whether that is true or not what is the attraction to Darnold? How does he upgrade anything?

and USC has meant nothing to Pete when building his team. I remember everyone expected him to take his star safety from USC in 2010 but he took earl Thomas. Don't even remember the other guys name but of course Pete doesn't understand personnel
And whats the big deal about Jimmy G. Hes a guy with a very mediocre arm coming off right shoulder surgery. We own his @ss even with our garbage defenses Does Pete want a guy we swept? No he wants a big tall mobile guy with a huge arm and that fits Geno, Lock and Eason to a T.
Why not us? Without Russ? GO HAWKS!!!!SHOCK THE LEAGUE!!!

[RiverDog]

Jimmy G could probably pick up our Offense fairly quickly if Waldron follows the McVay line. It falls from the Shanahan tree so the concepts and keys would be similar, but
if it's Petes Offense then it might be just a little more of a learning curve because our Offense under Pete isn't particularly sophisticated so easier to learn. Remember Pete's
philosophy of its not how you start but how you finish and I can see picking up JG or maybe even Darnold if Mayfield beats him out and who Pete once coveted.


Darnold is likely to be available before the season starts. The Panthers drafted Matt Corrall and now that they're bringing in Mayfield, Darnold is likely the odd man out as most teams don't carry 3 QB's. If Pete wants him, he'll likely trade for him between now and training camp.

I think a lot of the Darnold to the Hawks speculation is driven by the fact that Darnold played at USC.

[quote="Hawktawk"]Darnold is a 2 time bust but word out of Carolina is there will be an open competition there between Mayfield and Darnold who is owed far more money by Carolina than Mayfield. Whether that is true or not what is the attraction to Darnold? How does he upgrade anything?

Yeah, Darnold's contract makes it even less likely that we'll trade for him. He has a fully guaranteed $18M contract, about the same as what Mayfield would have cost. There's a report today that the Panthers aren't considering a trade, but it's hard to imagine them not only paying him that kind of cash to carry a clipboard, but also take snaps away from Matt Corrall. This looks like a mini Browns/Watson situation.

[NorthHawk]

I just wouldn't put it past our FO to trade away a high draft pick like one of our firsts to avoid a losing season.
I have very little faith in them at all after the last 7 years and the bad trades that they've made.

[Hawktawk]

And again who really sees Darnold as an upgrade ? He was ok early last year then McCaffrey went down and he fell off a cliff . He was playing the way Geno did in New York . And I just read Garrapolo is 30 so hardly QBOTF materiel and again a weak arm which really doesn’t play when every starter on Seattle’s wr corps can take the top off.I’ll be surprised if they bring him in unless he’s cut outright and if that happens my guess is several teams will kick the tires . For his limitations he’s been to 2 championship games and a super bowl in the last 4 years .

[RiverDog]

And again who really sees Darnold as an upgrade?

I certainly don't think he's an upgrade, but I'm not Pete, either. It's hard to tell what he'll do.

I'm glad that they didn't bite on Mayfield and I'm hoping that they don't bite on Darnold or Garoppolo, either. I'd rather keep our powder dry and wait until next season to procure our QBOTF. Supposedly next year's class is a good one, and as long as we don't shoot ourselves in the foot by making stupid trades like we have in the past, we should be in a good position to get one of the top 2 or 3 candidates out there.

[NorthHawk]

I’m hoping they just take their lumps and develop the younger players but I don’t think it’s in
Pete’s nature to do so. I’m not even sure the rookies will get enough playing time if they struggle early.

[Aseahawkfan]

I’m hoping they just take their lumps and develop the younger players but I don’t think it’s in
Pete’s nature to do so. I’m not even sure the rookies will get enough playing time if they struggle early.

Pete's let a team learn and compete before. He moved on from his franchise QB and elite MLB defensive team leader. I think he's ready to take it back to basics and let everyone take their lumps, see who comes out on top, like he did when he first arrived. If didn't feel like taking his lumps and building from the ground up, he would have kept his veterans and continued to try to make trades to get players rather than build up from within.

[RiverDog]

I’m hoping they just take their lumps and develop the younger players but I don’t think it’s in Pete’s nature to do so. I’m not even sure the rookies will get enough playing time if they struggle early.

Although he'd never admit it publicly in a million years, I think with our failure to launch on any of the available QB's, including the draft where a number of viable ones dropped, is a strong indication that Pete considers this a rebuilding year.

[Aseahawkfan]

Although he'd never admit it publicly in a million years, I think with our failure to launch on any of the available QB's, including the draft where a number of viable ones dropped, is a strong indication that Pete considers this a rebuilding year.

It don't matter what someone says, it matters what they do. Pete and John have made moves and operating like they did when they took over. It's clear to anyone who remembers when Pete and John first arrived and isn't grinding some imaginary slight against a player.

[RiverDog]

Although he'd never admit it publicly in a million years, I think with our failure to launch on any of the available QB's, including the draft where a number of viable ones dropped, is a strong indication that Pete considers this a rebuilding year.

It don't matter what someone says, it matters what they do.

Which was my point. What Pete did, or rather, what he didn't do, ie didn't try to upgrade the QB position, is a strong indication that he's in a different kind of operating mode than he has been in previous seasons.

[MackStrongIsMyHero]

This season feels a lot like the season after Hasselbeck left. I don't recall and haven't looked up who the FA QBs were, but Pete was content to go with TJack and Clipboard Jesus for the season. And avoiding the viable QBs made all the sense in the world this draft given who they drafted. I'll be more concerned if he doesn't make positive moves in the QB department next offseason.

[NorthHawk]

Which was my point. What Pete did, or rather, what he didn't do, ie didn't try to upgrade the QB position, is a strong indication that he's in a different kind of operating mode than he has been in previous seasons

How much could they have upgraded the QB position in all reality? The players available wouldn’t have
improved the team much this year and they would have had to give up some serious Cap space and future
talent.

That being said, if our QBs struggle it won’t surprise me if Pete panics and blows future drafts to stop
the bleeding this year on a slight upgrade, all in the aim to avoid a poor record. Short term fixes at
the expense of long term success.