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[RiverDog]

It’s been reported by his (Russell Wilson's) teammates that he was checked out?

Link?

[Aseahawkfan]

What does “checked out “ mean ? It’s been reported by his teammates that he was checked out ? What did that mean ( these are the same sources that said he would leave . Does it mean slacking off ?
Rip me all you want . I’ve lauded Russels greatness over and over . He’s not the same . If I have any beliefs whatsoever he slacked it for 35 million in my jersey for 45 plus years I really lost a lot of respect . Maybe that’s why JODI ALLEN said “ we want people who are on board “ in her press remarks on Russ leaving .

He was a distraction in the end . That’s an analysis . I think the Seahawk team and coaching staff will make that evident in the season opener . They may lose but it won’t be for a lack of trying .
It’s ok to recognize the greatness of Russ and still recognize who he had become in the end . I make no apologies for doing so .

So the guy who was checked out threw for 25 TDs and 6 interceptions? Got injured getting sacked and then came back as fast as he could to help the team win was checked out?

Whatever, you just won't stop pushing your lying garbage. You're a rumormonger gossip pushing garbage lies.

[obiken]

So the guy who was checked out threw for 25 TDs and 6 interceptions? Got injured getting sacked and then came back as fast as he could to help the team win was checked out?

Whatever, you just won't stop pushing your lying garbage. You're a rumormonger gossip pushing garbage lies.

Thank you!! HT is out to lunch on RW. PFF put him in the Elite level With Brady, Rodgers, Mahomey, etc etc. Come on, too much evidence the other way.

[Hawktawk]

So the guy who was checked out threw for 25 TDs and 6 interceptions? Got injured getting sacked and then came back as fast as he could to help the team win was checked out?

Whatever, you just won't stop pushing your lying garbage. You're a rumormonger gossip pushing garbage lies.

Thank you!! HT is out to lunch on RW. PFF put him in the Elite level With Brady, Rodgers, Mahomey, etc etc. Come on, too much evidence the other way.



I don’t have a link but I’ve read numerous accounts of unnamed players saying they believed Wilson was checked out . Same reporters who quoted anonymous sources saying he would be traded . He unchecked last 2 games although Penney putting up
350 in that span helped .

As for getting back as fast as he could to help the team again your analysis is laughable . From the moment the finger was hurt it was a social media drama . All about Russ from him out there running around practicing drop backs for the camera with a cast on rather than helping out the backup and offering support to pulling a pin at least 3 weeks early according to my own orthopedic doctor and huge hawks fan .

Geno had blown up the Jags . “ no more pin time to win” . PC said “ it will be really close “ the Monday before the game . Russels surgeon proclaimed him good to go hours later .

Carroll had to know but he rolled over and the season was lost . If Geno had hit his 20 point average we would have beaten Green Bay . Tough to argue he would have been worse then 2 picks and zero points then losses to 2 backups . 9 ppg average .
It’s a ridiculous thing to say Russ was doing anything but saying look at me with his decision to play . Bragging about how fast he got back . Least team oriented move I’ve seen since Lynch got off the bus before minny .

Great career here . Terrible exit . If you don’t like it don’t get carpal tunnel on another rant

[RiverDog]

I don’t have a link but I’ve read numerous accounts of unnamed players saying they believed Wilson was checked out.

You're read numerous accounts but you don't have a link? Come on, man! I'm not calling you a liar, but if they're that numerous, surely you can find one article or reference that you can provide so we can see what it is that you're talking about.

[Hawktawk]

I’m on an old I phone and have no clue how to link . These reports came out around the time he had just been traded when all the little stories about how bad the relationship was were also leaking . Didn’t make it up . I’m a speed reader who might read 30 articles a day .

It could be false of course . Part of the media campaign to deflect blame . I look at some of the games , particularly the bears and rams 2. Russ refused to run in the game even though he was in pistol and the defense completely quit respecting him and just smashing the back . Some of the stuff in the bears game . The postgame public clapping back on the head coach after costing the team ballgames . He wasn’t the same guy for whatever reason. The offense turned it on and reminded me of late 2012 4 of the last 6 and I was fine with everyone back including Russ .

But it turned out to be his audition for Denver and padded his stats greatly for the season . Had he finished like much of the year I’m not sure Denver would have had Intetest .

[NorthHawk]

If those stories had any legs, they would have been picked up by the national media.
Wilson is too big of a figure to not dish dirt.

[RiverDog]

I’m on an old I phone and have no clue how to link . These reports came out around the time he had just been traded when all the little stories about how bad the relationship was were also leaking . Didn’t make it up . I’m a speed reader who might read 30 articles a day.

Alright, in the interest of doing a friend a favor by doing his homework for him, I did an internet search for "Russell Wilson checked out" and came up with this:

Some Seattle Seahawks teammates reportedly felt quarterback Russell Wilson "checked out" during the 2021 NFL season.

Michael-Shawn Dugar, Jayson Jenks and Mike Sando of The Athletic reported it was one of many issues that led to Wilson's trade to the Denver Broncos on Tuesday, which they described as a "divorce in which both sides contributed to the dissolution:"

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... ast-season

However, from what I could tell, it wasn't "numerous accounts", it was one sourced article from the Atlantic that did not attribute any quotes to any named individuals that was picked up on and repeated by several publications, including the NY Post, CBS Sports, Bleacher Report, Fox News, etc. My guess is that you read the same article from multiple publications, giving you the impression that there was more than one source.

You also have to keep in mind what else the players in the article said besides the "checked out" phrase that you keep repeating. They said it was "one of many issues" and that "both sides contributed to the dissolution", which is probably pretty accurate and that you've chosen to ignore as it doesn't fit your narrative that it was all Russell's fault and that Pete is the knight in shining armor.

Considering the size of NFL teams and how many players move through the system, the odds of a few of them having some differences with the star quarterback is pretty high. But had there been significant discord of the magnitude that you're suggesting, surely there would have been more than just this one, singular story that leaked out.

[Hawktawk]

I’m on an old I phone and have no clue how to link . These reports came out around the time he had just been traded when all the little stories about how bad the relationship was were also leaking . Didn’t make it up . I’m a speed reader who might read 30 articles a day.

Alright, in the interest of doing a friend a favor by doing his homework for him, I did an internet search for "Russell Wilson checked out" and came up with this:

Some Seattle Seahawks teammates reportedly felt quarterback Russell Wilson "checked out" during the 2021 NFL season.

Michael-Shawn Dugar, Jayson Jenks and Mike Sando of The Athletic reported it was one of many issues that led to Wilson's trade to the Denver Broncos on Tuesday, which they described as a "divorce in which both sides contributed to the dissolution:"

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/100 ... ast-season

However, from what I could tell, it wasn't "numerous accounts", it was one sourced article from the Atlantic that did not attribute any quotes to any named individuals that was picked up on and repeated by several publications, including the NY Post, CBS Sports, Bleacher Report, Fox News, etc. My guess is that you read the same article from multiple publications, giving you the impression that there was more than one source.

You also have to keep in mind what else the players in the article said besides the "checked out" phrase that you keep repeating. They said it was "one of many issues" and that "both sides contributed to the dissolution", which is probably pretty accurate and that you've chosen to ignore as it doesn't fit your narrative that it was all Russell's fault and that Pete is the knight in shining armor.

Considering the size of NFL teams and how many players move through the system, the odds of a few of them having some differences with the star quarterback is pretty high. But had there been significant discord of the magnitude that you're suggesting, surely there would have been more than just this one, singular story that leaked out.

Maybe Asea can retract the accusations I’m a rumor monger . If I say it was reported it was .

There’s having differences then there’s believing a QB making 35 million is checked out . And you are correct I was referring to the repeat reporting of the same scoop . Much as the Jason LaCanfora scoop about the very real possibility of a Wilson trade . The late John Clayton was incensed , said it was ridiculous . If you look at the reporters who contributed to the story including Sando I find them credible . Yes I’m sure there were issues , mainly a man who was paid a kings ransom wanted to decide what offense to run . Carroll said no . Maybe he could have split the difference . Throw Wilson a bone . But he didnot .

Regardless as a blue collar supervisor still grinding my body to powder doing physical work almost every day I feel for Russ but can’t reach him. Play terrible and blame your team . Force your way out in part by checking out .35 million a year .

I’ve worked for some of the worst employers ever being in golf , mistreated , underestimated, suggestions ignored . But my work ethic has never been affected by my attitude or my employers treatment of me and I lost some respect for Russ when it broke that his teammates thought it had affected him . I don’t see where he was al that disrespected . I’m cool move on from the checked out discussion but this place will be hopping September 12 no matter what happens . I think Russell’s former teammates might send a messsage how they feel.

[RiverDog]

Maybe Asea can retract the accusations I’m a rumor monger . If I say it was reported it was .

There’s having differences then there’s believing a QB making 35 million is checked out . And you are correct I was referring to the repeat reporting of the same scoop . Much as the Jason LaCanfora scoop about the very real possibility of a Wilson trade . The late John Clayton was incensed , said it was ridiculous . If you look at the reporters who contributed to the story including Sando I find them credible . Yes I’m sure there were issues , mainly a man who was paid a kings ransom wanted to decide what offense to run . Carroll said no . Maybe he could have split the difference . Throw Wilson a bone . But he didnot .

Regardless as a blue collar supervisor still grinding my body to powder doing physical work almost every day I feel for Russ but can’t reach him. Play terrible and blame your team . Force your way out in part by checking out .35 million a year .

I’ve worked for some of the worst employers ever being in golf , mistreated , underestimated, suggestions ignored . But my work ethic has never been affected by my attitude or my employers treatment of me and I lost some respect for Russ when it broke that his teammates thought it had affected him . I don’t see where he was al that disrespected . I’m cool move on from the checked out discussion but this place will be hopping September 12 no matter what happens . I think Russell’s former teammates might send a messsage how they feel.

I, too, noticed Sando's name behind that article. But I'm not questioning the credibility of the report. To the contrary, I feel that given how many players pass through that locker room that there's bound to be some that may have the opinion that Russell 'checked out'. But despite my having pointed it out in my previous post, you're still ignoring the other information that is included in it where the former players aren't blaming it entirely on Russell as you are.

[Aseahawkfan]

Maybe Asea can retract the accusations I’m a rumor monger . If I say it was reported it was .

There’s having differences then there’s believing a QB making 35 million is checked out . And you are correct I was referring to the repeat reporting of the same scoop . Much as the Jason LaCanfora scoop about the very real possibility of a Wilson trade . The late John Clayton was incensed , said it was ridiculous . If you look at the reporters who contributed to the story including Sando I find them credible . Yes I’m sure there were issues , mainly a man who was paid a kings ransom wanted to decide what offense to run . Carroll said no . Maybe he could have split the difference . Throw Wilson a bone . But he didnot .

Regardless as a blue collar supervisor still grinding my body to powder doing physical work almost every day I feel for Russ but can’t reach him. Play terrible and blame your team . Force your way out in part by checking out .35 million a year .

I’ve worked for some of the worst employers ever being in golf , mistreated , underestimated, suggestions ignored . But my work ethic has never been affected by my attitude or my employers treatment of me and I lost some respect for Russ when it broke that his teammates thought it had affected him . I don’t see where he was al that disrespected . I’m cool move on from the checked out discussion but this place will be hopping September 12 no matter what happens . I think Russell’s former teammates might send a messsage how they feel.

Once you stop taking shots at Russ, the greatest Seahawks QB to ever put on the uniform and who gave us 10 years of everything he had during the season and offseason, never missing a game until last year, then I'll relax.

I'm not going to sit by and listen to someone slander Wilson. I don't care what people think, I liked Russell Wilson. I wanted him to retire a Seahawk like Steve Largent. I don't like that Pete and John traded him when they didn't have to. I don't think it was what was best for the team and I'll never like it.

I'll learn to live with it like I do whenever a player leaves. I'll hope the team does well. I like the new draft. Though I don't hate Carroll and John, I'm pretty unhappy with them at this point. They have to prove to me trading the franchise QB was a smart move. They or you will never convince me we couldn't hold on to him if we had wanted to. I've seen plenty of QBs that complained or wanted out over the years or maneuvered for negotiation, but the GMs know that's just part of the negotiation process and use tags and negotiation to keep a franchise QB on the team. But John and Pete have made the unprecedented move to trade the franchise QB while he is still in his prime years rather than build around him, a move I don't think happens if Paul Allen is alive myself but we'll never know because Jodi Allen is the owner now and she allowed it.

We'll see if this parting of the ways works out for Pete and John. I've never seen it work out well myself and don't recall a team trading a franchise QB in his early 30s who is still performing at high level and have it work out well. But apparently Pete and John like usual think they can do whatever they want and it will all work out just as they planned. Well, we'll see won't we.

Them or you or anyone else is never going to convince me trading Russ is a good idea. I'll have to see their plan work out well for me to believe it was a good idea. Not 3 games from the backup and six games from the RB who did those six games when the elite franchise QB was just getting back to form making our offense two dimensional again.

Russ is our greatest QB. He has set the bar for any future QB very high. He's a good guy who always works hard to stay in shape to survive an NFL season, learn whatever new offense they are throwing at him over his third offensive coordinator and now the one he'll learn in Denver, and he's more than proven himself that some disgruntled fan isn't going to rewrite history to show him as anything other than he was: a great QB and a great example of a guy good for the community.

Denver should be happy to have Russell Wilson. Other than this year, I hope he prospers and does well. When he enters the Hall of Fame however long from now, I hope he doesn't forget his years in Seattle where he gave us the best football we've ever seen from a QB here including a Lombardi Trophy.

Russ should be appreciated for the great years of football where he gave us everything he had every year and being a great role model on and off the field.

I'll gladly move on from Russ as long as I don't have to listen to some disgruntled fan constantly taking shots at him or pretending he wasn't absolutely great in Seattle.

[Hawktawk]

He was great on the field for 8 and a half seasons . His personna started changing a bit before that but it didn’t affect his play . Obviously Pete and John did what they felt they had to do but please man if you cannot accept leaving was Russell’s idea you’re in a small minority . It’s ok to say he was the greatest ever and still feel he had changed as a player and more so as a person . He’s gone to a team that gave up 5 less sacks and hasn’t sniffed playoffs since manning retired . A brand spanking new first time coach . Imo they have a tall order , as tall an order as Seattle to be successful . Other than the Qb position we may have the better roster , especially with this draft . We will find out soon .